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December 04, 2017, 07:03:35 AM
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I understand your point, but I think it depends on the name in question. There have been many names in the vein of DarkCoin, Darknet, StealthCoin, ShadowCoin, ShadowCash, Blackcoin, GhostCoin, SpectreCoin, etc. etc. etc. (and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head). These names all evoke a sense of secrecy and privacy, but they are also quite generic, easily confused with each other, and sound more 'nerdy' than professional. I also think it's significant that the two most successful of these coins, DarkCoin and Darknet, only really achieved that success once they rebranded to DASH and PIVX, respectively. The funny thing is that 'DASH' and 'PIVX' are, objectively, strange names--they don't immediately call to mind the privacy aspect like the old names did. But they are unique and catchy sounding, and there is no way that someone can turn around and use the same name without being a clear copycat (ditto real-world corporate names like Yahoo!, Amazon, eBay, Nike, etc.--none of those names tell you anything about what the company does, but they are so unique that other companies can't accidentally/on purpose copy them. The same is not true of Shadow/Dark/Stealth/Ghost-related names, since those are simply concepts.

So yes, I agree that at some point you will have to stick with a name. My point is that that 'some point' should be when you have a unique, professional-sounding name that can't easily be copied, which isn't currently the case (as has just been demonstrated by the new Spectre). Being cool-sounding and descriptive isn't the same thing as being a good name from a marketing and brand-identity perspective.

Anyway, I'm not trying to be negative; XSPEC is a nice project with good potential and I hope it succeeds. I just think this is something to consider going forward.

You know what? I actually agree with that. Also I have been one of the people who proposed alternative, "catchier" names in the past, I think I proposed calling it "HALO" back then (quite the opposite of dark and shady, you see? Wink But still protective). But both jbg (dev) and mandica (founder) pointed out that changing the brand also can have some negative impacts on the project. I am all open for change, and I agree that SpectreCoin is not an optimal name brand-wise. But sometimes one needs to be really cautious with change, because it tends to break things!  Cheesy Whereas keeping the old name won't break things in the near future, so that we can focus on development, first.

If you try to discuss this question in Slack (again), you will see quite some opposition, but of course you are still welcome to check in! Wink But honestly this question has been discussed almost as often as changing the website, so it's also kind of tiring to discuss this once again.

And btw., mostly for the developers and long-time members, Spectrecoin has also become some kind of "identity" that one has become used to, therefore such a change would also require to change one's own identity and self-perception of the project. So it's not so simple.


Hey guys,
I am new here. I invested in XSPEC, and I would also like to see it growing.

I am afraid, EleanorZ made a valid point here. If we like it or not, design and marketing do matter. This could be the best coin ever, but if the marketing is not cool enough, people won't appreciate it for what it is. There are also coins that are pushed primary by the marketing and not by the content behind, which is also not what is desired, of course. But as long as we have a good coin with a working concept, I think it is just fair to present it properly. Branding and web design should have high priorities, although not top priorities.

I also understand the point made by Gandalf86, about the risks of changing the name. However when the coin starts the grow, these risks will only grow with it. If we want to change the name at all, the sooner, the better. In my opinion, the net effect of a catchy new name and a cool (not copy-pasted) website would be positive.
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December 04, 2017, 07:44:38 AM
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You know what? I actually agree with that. Also I have been one of the people who proposed alternative, "catchier" names in the past, I think I proposed calling it "HALO" back then (quite the opposite of dark and shady, you see? Wink But still protective). But both jbg (dev) and mandica (founder) pointed out that changing the brand also can have some negative impacts on the project. I am all open for change, and I agree that SpectreCoin is not an optimal name brand-wise. But sometimes one needs to be really cautious with change, because it tends to break things!  Cheesy Whereas keeping the old name won't break things in the near future, so that we can focus on development, first.

If you try to discuss this question in Slack (again), you will see quite some opposition, but of course you are still welcome to check in! Wink But honestly this question has been discussed almost as often as changing the website, so it's also kind of tiring to discuss this once again.

And btw., mostly for the developers and long-time members, Spectrecoin has also become some kind of "identity" that one has become used to, therefore such a change would also require to change one's own identity and self-perception of the project. So it's not so simple.

Yeah, makes sense. In any project or organization, there is always a tradeoff: To get started, you need a core group or community of dedicated people that are willing to work tirelessly because they care and believe when no one else does. The project wouldn't exist and couldn't succeed without such people. But then, as the project grows, it evolves and its needs change, and it can be difficult for the core group to adjust to that and accept it, precisely because they are so personally invested. As a project matures, personal investment can switch from being an asset to being a challenge to further evolution.

Thanks for the conversation on this. I respect that it's been discussed before, so I won't bring it up further; you know how I feel (not that my opinion is worth any more than anyone else's!).
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December 04, 2017, 08:12:12 AM
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hi!
what reward for 1 block POS?
how many coins? 0,5 or 1 or ?
no information about it on the site.
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December 04, 2017, 09:01:24 AM
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Hey.
how many coins do you need for a POS?
Can I install a purse on the Rapsberry Pi 3?

1) Look here: https://github.com/bitcoinx2/spectre/wiki/FAQ#7-how-can-i-stake
2) Yes. If you mean the wallet, that is.


hi!
what reward for 1 block POS?
how many coins? 0,5 or 1 or ?
no information about it on the site.

Take a look here: http://coinwiki.info/en/SpectreCoin And also the above link.

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December 04, 2017, 11:45:41 AM
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are there any dev updates coming on xspec in december?

I would imagine beachguy will keep us updated, he has being doing a great job as of late.

I am just waiting patiently for the 1.4 wallet which will open up the path to 2.0. The wallet itself has some cool features that you probably would not associate with a normal coin wallet release.

looking at the previous page 1.4 appears to be close and being actively worked on. At this point I think I would be happy even if it is a beta which appears in 2017 and not final.

the rumblings from the U.S and U.K governments on crypto regulation and information disclosure make the development of this coin more important as time passes even if the more mainstream holders of non-privacy focused coins don't really understand its implications.
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December 04, 2017, 03:09:54 PM
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Hi,

Somebody knows if I can recover some XSPEC that I had in the exchange ccex, the currency was removed from that exchange and I did not take them out.

Thanks

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December 04, 2017, 04:22:48 PM
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Hi,

Somebody knows if I can recover some XSPEC that I had in the exchange ccex, the currency was removed from that exchange and I did not take them out.

Thanks

Phew you should try to contact C-Cex support in that case.

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December 04, 2017, 04:31:53 PM
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Hi,

Somebody knows if I can recover some XSPEC that I had in the exchange ccex, the currency was removed from that exchange and I did not take them out.

Thanks

Phew you should try to contact C-Cex support in that case.

I wil try, thanks

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December 04, 2017, 08:24:12 PM
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are there any dev updates coming on xspec in december?

Yes, the development team is now working full time, to finish in December.
They work on the update that was announced for November: Wallet version: 1.4.0

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December 05, 2017, 05:34:13 AM
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FYI, The website is hideous. I had sent 4 people to it and all of them hated it and invested in PVIX because of their presentation. I don't know who is in charge of it but I am disappointed that my Good friends chose Pivx over XSPEC because of a crappy website.
Also, Jbg kicked me out of slack because of a dispute about marketing a few months ago and there is STILL no marketing of the coin, but I'm sure Jbg has a handle on it. Hopefully he does something with marketing by December 2018.
I would love to discuss that with him face to face someday.

Bring solutions, not problems.

The first step to solving a problem is identifying it.  Just saying.

I don't think silencing people who are expressing problems helps a project to succeed.

Here's hoping that the SpectreProject community will be one that welcomes candid discussion, including criticism and dissent, going forward.

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December 05, 2017, 06:37:14 AM
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FYI, The website is hideous. I had sent 4 people to it and all of them hated it and invested in PVIX because of their presentation. I don't know who is in charge of it but I am disappointed that my Good friends chose Pivx over XSPEC because of a crappy website.
Also, Jbg kicked me out of slack because of a dispute about marketing a few months ago and there is STILL no marketing of the coin, but I'm sure Jbg has a handle on it. Hopefully he does something with marketing by December 2018.
I would love to discuss that with him face to face someday.

Bring solutions, not problems.

The first step to solving a problem is identifying it.  Just saying.

I don't think silencing people who are expressing problems helps a project to succeed.

Here's hoping that the SpectreProject community will be one that welcomes candid discussion, including criticism and dissent, going forward.

Well said. I couldn't agree more.
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December 05, 2017, 01:04:59 PM
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Great useful project! Good luck!
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December 06, 2017, 12:04:33 AM
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Great useful project! Good luck!

It is true it is an excellent project, we are in the beginning but we already have a better product than others
who have been in this for years. We are now a small team, but growing a lot.
For the year 2018 the plans consist of prioritizing the development of Marketing,
with the name chosen by the community: SpectreCoin (Spectrecoin).
In this way we will consider Marketing as important as the software development in 2018.

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December 06, 2017, 12:08:09 AM
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do you need to translate it in Vietnamese ?
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December 06, 2017, 12:26:54 AM
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do you need to translate it in Vietnamese ?

Do you have any experience in translation? We need this in 2018.

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December 06, 2017, 01:13:11 AM
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How can I participate in the bounty program?

There is a bounty program very easy to win, if you have a Twitter account that is authentic,
(the account can not be created just for this, you must have more than 24 followers).
Search on Twitter: Leo Bitman, 1º follow to know about SpectreCoin, 2º ReTw for others to know,
and 3º you send a public address, (the ones start with the uppercase letter: "S")
and that is all, I will send you a "Free Sample of 10.00 XSPEC".
You can receive your 10 XSPEC, approximately in 2/4 days.


It is a very personal program, I just want to say that everything is still valid and that it will continue until 2018.


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December 06, 2017, 01:27:35 AM
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You know what? I actually agree with that. Also I have been one of the people who proposed alternative, "catchier" names in the past, I think I proposed calling it "HALO" back then (quite the opposite of dark and shady, you see? Wink But still protective).

I like the idea, Spectre sounds too "dark".
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December 06, 2017, 08:17:43 AM
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https://globalcoinreport.com/heres-why-now-might-be-a-good-time-to-pick-up-some-spectrecoin-xpsec/  Wink
I'm glad that I'm in the project!
I'm buying now to buy more!
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December 06, 2017, 08:02:26 PM
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I like the idea, Spectre sounds too "dark".

Well, it's SpectreCoin [xspec]...and a name change to anything else
 simply isn't going to happen.  Smiley

@Bitman86 - Thanks for continuation of the "bounty"....and all you do!

For security, your account has been locked. Email acctcomp15@theymos.e4ward.com
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December 06, 2017, 09:12:26 PM
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xspec is going to have some competition soon in the form of tokenpay. Stealth, addresses, ring signatures, tor and using the bitcoin block chain. Seems like a once in a blue moon type ico opportunity and the bonuses and insane.
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