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Author Topic: GRAFT - Universal Payment Processing Network  (Read 84384 times)
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February 19, 2018, 10:45:26 AM
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it is already listed on yobit... Shocked  but price is very low...

https://yobit.net/en/trade/GRF/USD

0.018 USD
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February 19, 2018, 10:49:25 AM
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it is already listed on yobit... Shocked  but price is very low...

https://yobit.net/en/trade/GRF/USD

0.018 USD
it is not GRAFT. It is grafity coin.... Undecided
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February 19, 2018, 10:50:05 AM
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it is already listed on yobit... Shocked  but price is very low...

https://yobit.net/en/trade/GRF/USD

0.018 USD

That not Graffiti? Not Graft.
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February 19, 2018, 10:55:06 AM
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it is already listed on yobit... Shocked  but price is very low...

https://yobit.net/en/trade/GRF/USD

0.018 USD

That not Graffiti? Not Graft.

why does this have the same short?  Huh
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February 19, 2018, 10:56:48 AM
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why does this have the same short?  Huh
It is not the same. Our graft got GRFT....
Grafity coin got GRF.
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February 19, 2018, 11:04:29 AM
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okay, now im happy again  Grin but on Delta (Portfolio App) its also listet wrong as GRF GRAFT NEtwork isntead of GRFT
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February 19, 2018, 01:00:41 PM
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Was hard cap achieved? If not how much was raised in the end?

Any plans on getting this listed on an exchange soon? If so which exchange and when? Cheesy
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February 19, 2018, 02:06:56 PM
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is this a scam ?? no exchange = scam
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February 19, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
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is this a scam ?? no exchange = scam
Great logic  Grin Most of the cryptocurrencies didn't  have any exchanges at start.
The only thing which i afraid are russian surnames in GRFT team  Wink
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February 19, 2018, 03:13:28 PM
Last edit: February 19, 2018, 03:23:44 PM by NDS17
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is this a scam ?? no exchange = scam
Great logic  Grin Most of the cryptocurrencies didn't  have any exchanges at start.
The only thing which i afraid are russian surnames in GRFT team  Wink
surnames are more UKRAINIAN rather than Russian  because of last letter "O":
VasylenkO
TimoshenkO
Ukraine Grin

And "thank you" for your opinion regarding Russians  Grin  As Russian citizen I must to start debates with you regarding your great logic opinion but I will not because I see that such concern is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, sorry  Smiley
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February 19, 2018, 03:25:08 PM
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It has been another wild experience of going through the ICO over the last 4 weeks! We are thankful to our supporters and contributors. Now, as GRAFT Blockchain ICO is over we can continue with GRAFT's ambitious mission.


Can you elaborate a bit further? Are we really going to wait until Q2 to integrate any form of exchange? Q2 spans all the way to July 1st... That seems like an oddly long time, specially considering this is an ICO that garnered 6+million dollars. It would be understandable if it was a community coin that needed donations but that's not the case here.

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February 19, 2018, 04:51:20 PM
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this project is an example of how marketing should not be done
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February 19, 2018, 05:50:57 PM
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@ cryptoyes Graft is still the most profitable coin in relation with ICO price. today is 4 time higher than 10 days ago.
Cheesy what profitability? the coin doesn't exist on any exchange and you have no idea what actual value it will have when it hits exchanges.
All you can say is that even now (higher diff), mining it using rented hashpower is FAR cheaper than the ICO price, and it was even cheaper mining it during the ICO.
@cryptoyes : Why You change my sentences in Your quotation? The original of my message You can see at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2115188.msg30581058#msg30581058   and You can compare first sentence. So, than You will see that Your answer has not much sense. 


If you don't admit that the ICO was shady because of this, then you likely have hidden interests or could be a (potential) victim yourself. Nobody should have bought in this ICO. At best, they should have rented hashpower and mined it instead (and then pray they don't miss the dump of all miners selling when/if it hits exchanges).
Wau... "if I do not admit something, I am...", What is this? Unsuccessful attempt of neuro linguistic programming? You are the person who decide what somebody should buy?


You're a fan. I get it. Doesn't change the list of shady stuff I highlighted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2115188.msg30565779#msg30565779 ... for example, can you name just 3 verifiable (and worthy) companies from the 140+40 they claim they partnered with?
You know who I am? How do You know that? Regarding examples, if You need some, You can try to find it by yourself.


We're all tired of scammers. If you want people to know about GRAFT, then tell them about the above as well.
p.s. What communication? The telegram chat is a ghost town as far as team members are concerned ... it's full of incredibly rude supporters and miners.
You represent some group here? Who are "We"? I am not connected to GRAFT team on any way, but I did not found any "rude" supporters or miners here, or on Telegram. Maybe I missed something?

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February 19, 2018, 05:52:02 PM
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this project is an example of how marketing should not be done

Exactly...good project but wrong marketing and strategy.... Undecided
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February 19, 2018, 06:17:09 PM
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Hello, I am currently undermining GRAFT, I have managed to get some in the main balance of my graft wallet in mobile, the issue is that I can not use these coins obtained by mining since the payment and shipping options do not they are enabled inside the wallet !!! what am I doing wrong ? thank you very much for you


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February 19, 2018, 06:20:10 PM
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So we have some coins by mining & investing in ico.
But we can't move our coins from mobile wallet (android). Also there's no exchange yet. When will you update wallet? We can do OTC trade...
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February 19, 2018, 07:52:52 PM
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So we have some coins by mining & investing in ico.
But we can't move our coins from mobile wallet (android). Also there's no exchange yet. When will you update wallet? We can do OTC trade...

Yea that's really odd. I don't want to fud, but this is all extremely shady. I've never been apart of an ICO/coin launch this confusing/broken...

The dev comes in a drops a little sentence that literally doesn't answer anything. Might as well have not said anything.
The network hash has dropped 11Mh/s from yesterday. Miners and investors are clearly uncertain about the coin and they are doing nothing about it. Horrible marketing.

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February 19, 2018, 08:40:59 PM
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I think marrying the block chain to POS and merchants is the holy grail of the crypto business; GRAFT goal is quite ambitious...hope they will achieve at least some progress, and this is not for the sake of Graft, but for the sake of the entire field. This has potential to get big. On the other hand, I feel tempted to agree on the marketing side. Let me put it this way - their guy is not Steve Job...not even close. I watched their sales pitch @ the summit in Dubai last month and I wasn't impressed to say the least  Cry
Keeping my fingers crossed  Undecided
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February 19, 2018, 08:43:08 PM
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@ cryptoyes Graft is still the most profitable coin in relation with ICO price. today is 4 time higher than 10 days ago.

 Cheesy what profitability? the coin doesn't exist on any exchange and you have no idea what actual value it will have when it hits exchanges.

All you can say is that even now (higher diff), mining it using rented hashpower is FAR cheaper than the ICO price, and it was even cheaper mining it during the ICO. If you don't admit that the ICO was shady because of this, then you likely have hidden interests or could be a (potential) victim yourself. Nobody should have bought in this ICO. At best, they should have rented hashpower and mined it instead (and then pray they don't miss the dump of all miners selling when/if it hits exchanges).

You're a fan. I get it. Doesn't change the list of shady stuff I highlighted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2115188.msg30565779#msg30565779 ... for example, can you name just 3 verifiable (and worthy) companies from the 140+40 they claim they partnered with?

We're all tired of scammers. If you want people to know about GRAFT, then tell them about the above as well.

p.s. What communication? The telegram chat is a ghost town as far as team members are concerned ... it's full of incredibly rude supporters and miners.


If anyone "official" from the GRAFT team can address some of these issues, that alone would set a lot of minds at ease. I would not dismiss @cryptoyes comments above and elsewhere in this thread as FUD without providing any "official" information, but I do fear that this is not going to happen. This teams continued silence is only going to kill this project before it's even started and it will only fuel the fear mongers that GRAFT was indeed a scam.

Prove them wrong GRAFT team by speaking up - your continued silence will also tell the forum readers of your true intentions.

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February 19, 2018, 09:54:31 PM
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So we have some coins by mining & investing in ico.
But we can't move our coins from mobile wallet (android). Also there's no exchange yet. When will you update wallet? We can do OTC trade...

Just wait.. why are people so impatient?
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