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October 05, 2017, 10:31:57 AM
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I'm suspicious of Russian ICO ... Guys, how do you like this project?

Its a sound approach to be a bit sceptical for ICO Projects in general but I would not let to much focus on their whereabouts but rather the team skills and previous achievements. The ICO rating team gave their Project a solid scoring and from what I have read so far I find this interesting and have bought some options that I will excercise in the ICO.

Take care to do your own due dilligence on the Project and best of luck!

Well, everyone is suspicious of russian ICOs. The team will have to build a lot of trust to make this ICO successful.

Why is everyone suspicious? There are some great Russian ICO's with succesfull funding.
Do your research and mostly you will figure out with ICO's are not scam. Check out the team search for the names on internet and its even possible to contact the team. Call the company, ... many things you can do to figure out if the project is real.


The truth is that most of ICOs are Russian based or have Russian team behind them. People are just superstitious, forewarned and they wants to be afraid of something  Grin
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October 05, 2017, 10:33:03 AM
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I'm suspicious of Russian ICO ... Guys, how do you like this project?

Its a sound approach to be a bit sceptical for ICO Projects in general but I would not let to much focus on their whereabouts but rather the team skills and previous achievements. The ICO rating team gave their Project a solid scoring and from what I have read so far I find this interesting and have bought some options that I will excercise in the ICO.

Take care to do your own due dilligence on the Project and best of luck!

Well, everyone is suspicious of russian ICOs. The team will have to build a lot of trust to make this ICO successful.

Why is everyone suspicious? There are some great Russian ICO's with succesfull funding.
Do your research and mostly you will figure out with ICO's are not scam. Check out the team search for the names on internet and its even possible to contact the team. Call the company, ... many things you can do to figure out if the project is real.



Yeah, i am not getting where all this russophobia is coming from... Vitalik Buterin was also born in Russia, was Ethereum a scam too then? Also, this isn't even a Russian ICO! It's from Ireland if it does matter.

I wrote already they are from ireland but people continued to argue about Russian icos. I can't believe here sometimes.

They are already near 2 million dollar by the way. It's a very good start.

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October 05, 2017, 10:57:27 AM
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When you will send your founds to the manager, will they be locked for some period of time or you will be able to trade it back and forth?
I image it will depend on the manager how he will decide to run the fund?

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October 05, 2017, 11:43:16 AM
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The location is not so important, i prefer to see if the team is serious and if the project is great. And with genesis vision I se a solid and serious team, and a huge potential project with so much possibility. For me genesis vision can become a big platform.
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October 05, 2017, 11:50:58 AM
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The location is not so important, i prefer to see if the team is serious and if the project is great. And with genesis vision I se a solid and serious team, and a huge potential project with so much possibility. For me genesis vision can become a big platform.

it's getting to a point where everyone will be doing work from home. on-site presence will no longer be necessary in the future. I wouldn't be surprised if Genesis hires team members from all over the world.

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October 05, 2017, 12:06:33 PM
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I'm suspicious of Russian ICO ... Guys, how do you like this project?

And than they are worse than others? Scammers are everywhere. Only on the basis of nationality can not be judged that the ICO is suspicious. The project itself is very well thought out, the main elements of the interaction within the system are carefully described. Another question is how this will function in reality. But we will see this only when the project starts working.
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October 05, 2017, 12:35:40 PM
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The location is not so important, i prefer to see if the team is serious and if the project is great. And with genesis vision I se a solid and serious team, and a huge potential project with so much possibility. For me genesis vision can become a big platform.

it's getting to a point where everyone will be doing work from home. on-site presence will no longer be necessary in the future. I wouldn't be surprised if Genesis hires team members from all over the world.

It is in blockchain so it is decentralized. The system is fully online so they will hire anyone they want in anywhere. Probably they will need some services in Ireland but besides that, they can work with anyone they want regardless of which country he is living on.


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October 05, 2017, 01:05:11 PM
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I'm suspicious of Russian ICO ... Guys, how do you like this project?

Its a sound approach to be a bit sceptical for ICO Projects in general but I would not let to much focus on their whereabouts but rather the team skills and previous achievements. The ICO rating team gave their Project a solid scoring and from what I have read so far I find this interesting and have bought some options that I will excercise in the ICO.

Take care to do your own due dilligence on the Project and best of luck!

Well, everyone is suspicious of russian ICOs. The team will have to build a lot of trust to make this ICO successful.

Why is everyone suspicious? There are some great Russian ICO's with succesfull funding.
Do your research and mostly you will figure out with ICO's are not scam. Check out the team search for the names on internet and its even possible to contact the team. Call the company, ... many things you can do to figure out if the project is real.



Yeah, i am not getting where all this russophobia is coming from... Vitalik Buterin was also born in Russia, was Ethereum a scam too then? Also, this isn't even a Russian ICO! It's from Ireland if it does matter.

I wrote already they are from ireland but people continued to argue about Russian icos. I can't believe here sometimes.

They are already near 2 million dollar by the way. It's a very good start.

People just love to FUD. I bet if you read through  any ANN page, more than of of the comments are negative. People always assume the worst and just make blanket statements.

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October 05, 2017, 01:30:59 PM
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Sorry if I unseen something, but I don't understand the project profit to managers and traders.
All advantages are the advantages of blockchain that already exist. Why do you want to make something same in samr methods and same users.
This idea transforms in closest time of die in the same time.

There is no extra value in the idea. What are you thinking about in a year after ICO finished?
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October 05, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
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Sorry if I unseen something, but I don't understand the project profit to managers and traders.
All advantages are the advantages of blockchain that already exist. Why do you want to make something same in samr methods and same users.
This idea transforms in closest time of die in the same time.

There is no extra value in the idea. What are you thinking about in a year after ICO finished?

The main idea of the project, in an easy way to understand, is to allow common people to invest their money, but because these users are not experts or have little to none trading experiences, the platform will let them just send money to a person that knows how to invest, and actually get profits, a manager of funds as it is called, so this manager will invest in whatever market he/she wants with his/her own strategy with the goal of getting profits, using genesis visions' users money, so when a timeframe is reached (set by the manager) the manager sent the profits, together with the invested money to the token holders of this particular manager, so people just sent money to a guy that knows how to make money, and then the profits are share, simply as that.
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October 05, 2017, 02:59:01 PM
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Sorry if I unseen something, but I don't understand the project profit to managers and traders.
All advantages are the advantages of blockchain that already exist. Why do you want to make something same in samr methods and same users.
This idea transforms in closest time of die in the same time.

There is no extra value in the idea. What are you thinking about in a year after ICO finished?

The main idea of the project, in an easy way to understand, is to allow common people to invest their money, but because these users are not experts or have little to none trading experiences, the platform will let them just send money to a person that knows how to invest, and actually get profits, a manager of funds as it is called, so this manager will invest in whatever market he/she wants with his/her own strategy with the goal of getting profits, using genesis visions' users money, so when a timeframe is reached (set by the manager) the manager sent the profits, together with the invested money to the token holders of this particular manager, so people just sent money to a guy that knows how to make money, and then the profits are share, simply as that.

Im guessing managers will get certain fee or percentage of the profits or why else would somebody waste his time with your money?

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October 05, 2017, 03:08:07 PM
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Wow, so many people here suddenly !
i was wondering too -  Shocked - things seem to go quite good
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October 05, 2017, 03:27:54 PM
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I'm suspicious of Russian ICO ... Guys, how do you like this project?

They are from Ireland not from Russia.

They just won a prestigious contest in Russia named HackRussia!

No, you are wrong understand. They are from Russia. Their comany registered in Ireland.
But why you suspicious for russan project? Ethereum made by russian developer (everyone know him), Wawes also russian...
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October 05, 2017, 03:34:39 PM
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I'm suspicious of Russian ICO ... Guys, how do you like this project?

They are from Ireland not from Russia.

They just won a prestigious contest in Russia named HackRussia!

No, you are wrong understand. They are from Russia. Their comany registered in Ireland.
But why you suspicious for russan project? Ethereum made by russian developer (everyone know him), Wawes also russian...

i love Russian  now ,because SONM , first SONM 1/3 of ICO price when hit exchange and keep a long time , now 1.5x price ,
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I'm suspicious of Russian ICO ... Guys, how do you like this project?

They are from Ireland not from Russia.

They just won a prestigious contest in Russia named HackRussia!

No, you are wrong understand. They are from Russia. Their comany registered in Ireland.
But why you suspicious for russan project? Ethereum made by russian developer (everyone know him), Wawes also russian...

i love Russian  now ,because SONM , first SONM 1/3 of ICO price when hit exchange and keep a long time , now 1.5x price ,
I see great team, I don't know why everyone thinks in stereotypes - team from Switzerland does not guarantee success. everything is very individual
- there are a lot of good people and specialists in Russia. Best example is Ethereum project
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October 05, 2017, 03:57:50 PM
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got my answer, thanks dev.
and, another question; in trading (both FIAT and Crypto) there are to volatile, how to take the best manager?

There will be a reputation record, as well as an entire history of each manager, as well as some other characteristics that will be included in each manager, like a number of tokens he/she has, there will also information on the strategies and timeframe of each manager, or some information about it, because some manager will desire to keep their strategies private; at the end, Genesis Vision will give you the necessary tools for you to be able to make the best decision about choosing a manager; the brokers can recommend a manager too, so you should look for them for more recommendations.

thanks for your explanation
i will try to make a good track record, so i can be manager

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October 05, 2017, 04:00:42 PM
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I like these type of programs, i've done some trading myself, but the pro's can of course do a lot better so a platform that gives me the oppertunity to let a pro-trader grow my investment is ideal!
Many people simply don't have the time to trade but with this project, we all can start to trade.

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October 05, 2017, 04:06:42 PM
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I like this project. I will invest in ICO Smiley. Looks promising
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October 05, 2017, 04:10:33 PM
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Serious project. A large qualified team. I think, guys, invest quickly. Good luck. Wink
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October 05, 2017, 04:13:26 PM
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Great Writing, explains the concept outlined in the wp in a more dense way.
Can you describe the way on how a manager transitions between the different levels e.g. criterias that needs to be fulfilled in order to manage larger funds?
In the current concept we have some kind of levels system. The amount of investments you could possibly attract depends solely on your manager's level.
The algorithm of the level increase will be unburdensome enough for manager to grow up really quickly if somebody buys his tokens and he makes some profit.
The idea of this levels is not to make the manager's life miserable and oblige them to grind these levels. It's more of a protection for investors for the first manager's trading period while he doesn't have any verified statistics.
Managers have different trust levels that define maximum investments a manager can get. There are 7 levels in total, with the first-level manager maximum investments capped at 1 000 USD ( in GVT equivalent) plus a first-level manager must invest 1 000 USD of his own money. For comparison, manager of a maximum trust level can receive investments up to 1 000 000 dollars.
A manager will be able to trade only cryptocurrencies? If yes I can see many cryptotraders join as managers to take advantage of this. Right now they only give advice on paid telegram groups
Manager will be able to trade any assets.
Great Writing, explains the concept outlined in the wp in a more dense way.
Can you describe the way on how a manager transitions between the different levels e.g. criterias that needs to be fulfilled in order to manage larger funds?
Good explanation of the project and easily understanding the complex things. The pre sale is running, does anyone know how much sold exactly.?
Pre-sale is finished! GVT for $2.3M was reserved for the ICO!
Its awesome that you took time and explained the mechanics of the project since at first its a little hard to understand.
But do you really expect that many trades will be done with fiat since the project is based on blockchain?
Fiat markets capitalization is significantly higher than crypto, we are sure that many trades will be done with fiat.
Just saw that the presale was ongoing, what are the funds raised for the moment ?
GVT for $2.3M was reserved for the ICO.
how this option program work to purchase token?
Genesis Vision option guarantees the right to acquire GVT tokens at a specified price during the ICO, so you have to pay only 5% on Pre-ICO and the remaining 95% you will have to pay during the ICO. Options will also give additional bonuses for tokens’ amount.
Currently, options program is finished!
Just saw that the presale was ongoing, what are the funds raised for the moment ?
Looks like they have removed the numeric counter. I think it is roughly 1.5musd options sold. They warrant a 20x the option investment opportunity at buyin when mainsale starts not including the additional bonus.
Is this the first time an ICO sells options? And can those options on GVT be traded like options on traditional stocks? This could pose an interesting new development in ICO land.
Yes, Options program was for the first time ever! We believe that one day it may become a common practice, taking into account all benefits it can provide.
Technically, options can be traded like options on traditional stocksб but we didn't place them on exchanges, since we used them for other purposes.
When do you plan to release the alpha and beta versions? I see the road map full of events until 2020. This project on longevity.
Alpha version will be launched in the first quarter of 2018. Beta version will be launch in the third quarter of 2018.
Can you tell me? Investors will have open statistic for trading their funds 24/7 ?
Yes, investors will have open statistic. All managers’ trades will be automatically verified, uploaded, and recorded in a smart contract, building a
trustworthy trading history and statistics.
When you will send your founds to the manager, will they be locked for some period of time or you will be able to trade it back and forth?
I image it will depend on the manager how he will decide to run the fund?
When investors purchase coins, GVTs are transferred to a broker's account, where they are converted to required currency and transferred to a manager's trading account. Coin holders receive part of the manager's profits, according to their share, minus the manager's commission and fee. The investor has the right to transfer coins or sell on the internal exchange.
The investor can withdraw invested money, but only at the end of the reporting period, having previously created an application for withdrawal. In the case of returns, the investor receives the money according to his or her share, and the coins are returned to the manager for further sale on the internal exchange.
Managers themselves choose the length of the reporting period, according to their trading strategies.


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