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October 13, 2017, 09:04:39 AM |
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Such question: the manager will receive the commission from the sum of profit for the certain period of time, or the manager will receive the commission from each transaction which he makes? I think the first option, but I would like to clarify this issue.
Here's what whitepaper says: "The profit, received as a result of management of the total funds, is shared proportionally between the managers and investors. Managers receive a commission for management and a commission from the profit (success fee)". So managers are paid not only in case of profit, they also receive some management fee in any case.
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October 13, 2017, 09:16:13 AM |
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I was napoleonx thread earlier. Someone suggested a partnership with genesis vision.
When i think about it, some trust managers can be ai and there is napoleonx for this. But on the other hand, napoleonx can count as a competitor.
Still seeing as a bot as a trust manager could be an interesting experience
But dont you think the trading bot replaces the manager? I dont see how that will work out :/ It can work in some cases. But I think people who are investing in Genesis Vision want a real life manager to trust them with there funds. If the manager is a bot you still need someone who needs to answer questions from the investors, a bot cant do this. So the manager is still a real person ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But when you know, you are using a trust bot instead of trust manager, you can adjust your expectations. By the way i am not sure genesis should go this way or shouldn't, i find the idea interesting that is all ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think good traders use all tools at hand. No reason a manager cannot also use a trade algorithm for his day trades, while he researches for long term value investments I don't think there would be a problem if manager also would use such bots. In the end it could be part of their strategy and I think NapoleonX is a pretty interesting project. Maybe it would be worth to consider a partnership with NapoleonX.
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October 13, 2017, 09:36:30 AM |
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I was napoleonx thread earlier. Someone suggested a partnership with genesis vision.
When i think about it, some trust managers can be ai and there is napoleonx for this. But on the other hand, napoleonx can count as a competitor.
Still seeing as a bot as a trust manager could be an interesting experience
But dont you think the trading bot replaces the manager? I dont see how that will work out :/ It can work in some cases. But I think people who are investing in Genesis Vision want a real life manager to trust them with there funds. If the manager is a bot you still need someone who needs to answer questions from the investors, a bot cant do this. So the manager is still a real person ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But when you know, you are using a trust bot instead of trust manager, you can adjust your expectations. By the way i am not sure genesis should go this way or shouldn't, i find the idea interesting that is all ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think good traders use all tools at hand. No reason a manager cannot also use a trade algorithm for his day trades, while he researches for long term value investments I don't think there would be a problem if manager also would use such bots. In the end it could be part of their strategy and I think NapoleonX is a pretty interesting project. Maybe it would be worth to consider a partnership with NapoleonX. You mean that traders will choose the best bots in their opinion and use them. I think it would be a great idea because traders do their research which bots are the best and investors will save their time because they don't have to learn how a bot works.
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matjas
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October 13, 2017, 09:57:23 AM |
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Interesting article. Does anyone know what this means ? Genesis Vision ICO is certified[2] by Financial Commission ? This Financial Commission thing? It means that it's given green light to perform financial services
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alphashotgun
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October 13, 2017, 10:23:47 AM |
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I was napoleonx thread earlier. Someone suggested a partnership with genesis vision.
When i think about it, some trust managers can be ai and there is napoleonx for this. But on the other hand, napoleonx can count as a competitor.
Still seeing as a bot as a trust manager could be an interesting experience
id like them to get into a partnership they would compliment each other really good!
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Elkmar
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October 13, 2017, 10:26:09 AM |
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I was napoleonx thread earlier. Someone suggested a partnership with genesis vision.
When i think about it, some trust managers can be ai and there is napoleonx for this. But on the other hand, napoleonx can count as a competitor.
Still seeing as a bot as a trust manager could be an interesting experience
id like them to get into a partnership they would compliment each other really good! It could be interesting. Bot manager, would be funny if he was the best manager ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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the_donald
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October 13, 2017, 10:45:17 AM |
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I was napoleonx thread earlier. Someone suggested a partnership with genesis vision.
When i think about it, some trust managers can be ai and there is napoleonx for this. But on the other hand, napoleonx can count as a competitor.
Still seeing as a bot as a trust manager could be an interesting experience
id like them to get into a partnership they would compliment each other really good! It could be interesting. Bot manager, would be funny if he was the best manager ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I don't think so, these two projects are doing different things, have different visions.
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helloal
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October 13, 2017, 11:03:32 AM |
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I was napoleonx thread earlier. Someone suggested a partnership with genesis vision.
When i think about it, some trust managers can be ai and there is napoleonx for this. But on the other hand, napoleonx can count as a competitor.
Still seeing as a bot as a trust manager could be an interesting experience
id like them to get into a partnership they would compliment each other really good! It could be interesting. Bot manager, would be funny if he was the best manager ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) That would be funny, but your comment is also a bit foreboding... I think that with advanced machine learning/deep learning, bots with ai will someday easily outperform humans. At that time, humans will be unnecessary...
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ubercool
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October 13, 2017, 11:04:47 AM |
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Interesting article. Does anyone know what this means ? Genesis Vision ICO is certified[2] by Financial Commission ? This Financial Commission thing? It means that it's given green light to perform financial services That is a great breakthrough in this market and genesis will be a leading brand soon in the financial services sector. Interesting article with a good financial insight.
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eneyardi
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October 13, 2017, 11:11:46 AM |
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When is the end of ICO? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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sockpuppet1911
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October 13, 2017, 11:20:26 AM |
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I was napoleonx thread earlier. Someone suggested a partnership with genesis vision.
When i think about it, some trust managers can be ai and there is napoleonx for this. But on the other hand, napoleonx can count as a competitor.
Still seeing as a bot as a trust manager could be an interesting experience
Someone still would have to manage it and set parameters to that bot. I don't see the a partnership in here. And nothing is stopping managers of using the their own bots, because there are lots of working bots out there.
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October 13, 2017, 11:21:23 AM |
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Such question: the manager will receive the commission from the sum of profit for the certain period of time, or the manager will receive the commission from each transaction which he makes? I think the first option, but I would like to clarify this issue.
Here's what whitepaper says: "The profit, received as a result of management of the total funds, is shared proportionally between the managers and investors. Managers receive a commission for management and a commission from the profit (success fee)". So managers are paid not only in case of profit, they also receive some management fee in any case. From what I have read it is best to either have a management fee or a performance fee, but it is not a good idea to have both at the same time. Let me see if I can find the source.
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Pajulapoiss
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October 13, 2017, 11:40:51 AM |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-oyLCue7EI watched this video and thought: "this is the one world order takeover". I mean it actually is The all seeing eye, but been put in a good use. Very unique and powerful video for sure, great graphics!
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SEELE^^01
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October 13, 2017, 11:47:10 AM |
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guys, is there already now a german whitepaper finally online? somehow, i do have problem to understand the english whitepaper to the fullest T_T"
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ubercool
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October 13, 2017, 11:49:35 AM |
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When is the end of ICO? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The website says, the ICO will start in 1 day 21 hours. And if am not wrong the hype of Genesis is so high that Ethereum network will be clogged when it starts.
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October 13, 2017, 11:57:38 AM |
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As i understand correctly, alpha version will be in March 2018 only? Why so long?
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October 13, 2017, 11:57:45 AM |
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Yes the interest of genesis vision is really huge at the moment. A lot of article or videos about the project. Ico is very soon, I also think that genesis vision will raise a lot of money. Trust management is a big market with a huge growing rate, genesis vision will make a lot of benefit in the future.
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SEELE^^01
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October 13, 2017, 12:37:12 PM |
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As i understand correctly, alpha version will be in March 2018 only? Why so long?
i guess, it takes time to find a good crew of developers to build up a platform which is working and secure for the public ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) well, we have to wait then ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 13, 2017, 12:38:26 PM |
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When is the end of ICO? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The website says, the ICO will start in 1 day 21 hours. And if am not wrong the hype of Genesis is so high that Ethereum network will be clogged when it starts. It is a big possibility. And i believe there is an upcoming hard fork for ethereum blockchain. Some icos postponed because of it. I hope it doesn't affect Genesis Vision's ico.
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tiger5056
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October 13, 2017, 12:47:34 PM |
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When is the end of ICO? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The website says, the ICO will start in 1 day 21 hours. And if am not wrong the hype of Genesis is so high that Ethereum network will be clogged when it starts. It is a big possibility. And i believe there is an upcoming hard fork for ethereum blockchain. Some icos postponed because of it. I hope it doesn't affect Genesis Vision's ico. i think problem is that most try to pay for gas to get in and create larger issues.
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