[ANN] Viewly ∙ A tokenized video platform

[laurenB7742]

haha, but in fact the truth. How will you control the banned and propaganda videos? Don’t t you think that sooner or later this technology will be taken under the control of the authorities?

I think, like on any other Internet resource, there will be a moderator here. Do you think that the world has completely lost its mind? Not by that much...))

The most important thing is that people will have freedom of speech. Their videos will not be banned for security reasons. You can shoot and show anything. You can express your opinion and stand up for your position.

I agree. I don't see a need for moderator who would ban videos. If you want nice cartoons without violence and music videos, go to youtube or watch TV. Internet should be open.
You can simply put a warning to those videos with explicit content and user needs to click, Yes I am over 18. There are few exceptions of course like CP and other deep web stuff.

Maybe that's just my vision. If Viewly wants to copy YouTube and ban every other video, that is an option but I am not a fan of this idea.

[jethnake]

That sounds good. Such a project can change the idea of video hosting. The absence of corporations will make the platform interesting for ordinary users.

[DiziSquare]

haha, but in fact the truth. How will you control the banned and propaganda videos? Don’t t you think that sooner or later this technology will be taken under the control of the authorities?

I think, like on any other Internet resource, there will be a moderator here. Do you think that the world has completely lost its mind? Not by that much...))

The most important thing is that people will have freedom of speech. Their videos will not be banned for security reasons. You can shoot and show anything. You can express your opinion and stand up for your position.

I agree. I don't see a need for moderator who would ban videos. If you want nice cartoons without violence and music videos, go to youtube or watch TV. Internet should be open.
You can simply put a warning to those videos with explicit content and user needs to click, Yes I am over 18. There are few exceptions of course like CP and other deep web stuff.

Maybe that's just my vision. If Viewly wants to copy YouTube and ban every other video, that is an option but I am not a fan of this idea.

I fully support. Except, of course, completely inappropriate content.
Politics, religion and other exciting topics should be discussed openly. Why we can't share our point of view with people? Why we're limited in this? Not authorities have created this world, it's not for them to decide for us.

[klofanowik]

Nice idea! There are a few more video platforms. But competition is healthy, so the more the merryer.
I'll keep an eye on this. Good luck with the project!

[Neo.Prometheus]

The Project is going after interesting purposes, so the hype is very attractive.

[sharkman20]

Nice idea! There are a few more video platforms. But competition is healthy, so the more the merryer.
I'll keep an eye on this. Good luck with the project!

In the end, the most popular will be only one. The rest will go to the background.

[jolinahermosa25]

 very interesting project with working small prototype application to understand in real time how this decentralized steaming going to work.ill  will watch it

[Klennox]

How will the censorship process be implemented in the application?

[viewly]

If you are obsessed with the Champions League this week, then you will surely be glad to hear about our own Viewly Community Champions - the winners of the Community Lucky Draw #7! We are really glad to have awesome supporters like yourselves “championing” Viewly!

To check out who won, visit our Medium blog and read the full post here: http://bit.ly/ViewlyLuckyDraw7BTC 🎉

Our Community Lucky Draw is an ongoing event in which each week we award prizes (each valued at a predetermined number of VIEW tokens) to the best community discussion/Twitter mentions as well as links posted inside or outside of our channels. More than 11,000 VIEW tokens have been won so far! 🏆

Whitelisting is up! Make sure you apply on time and don’t miss out: https://view.ly/

[TudorOzy]

Nice idea! There are a few more video platforms. But competition is healthy, so the more the merryer.
I'll keep an eye on this. Good luck with the project!

Thank you klofanwik!

Yes, without a healthy competition there would be no progress in any area.

Here are some other snippets of information :
Allows ads   No
User friendly   Yes
Video Marketplace   Yes
Moderation/Flags   Community based
Social economy   Yes ( likes, comments, etc)

[evilcyclope]

Nice idea! There are a few more video platforms. But competition is healthy, so the more the merryer.
I'll keep an eye on this. Good luck with the project!

Thank you klofanwik!

Yes, without a healthy competition there would be no progress in any area.

Here are some other snippets of information :
Allows ads   No
User friendly   Yes
Video Marketplace   Yes
Moderation/Flags   Community based
Social economy   Yes ( likes, comments, etc)

Pretty scanty information ...

[TudorOzy]

Will there be an opportunity to make a live broadcast? For example, as in Livepeer.
If there will be both video storage, and an output to a live broadcast - it will be a masterpiece.

Livestreaming is not in our near future goals, let's make the first part work very good, which is hosting pre-recorded videos.
As the technology progresses adding livestream might be an options, but that is for the developers to decide when that option is stable and reliable.
As you know livestreaming it's a bit troublesome even with centralised servers give that many places don't have enough bandwidth to support a good experience.
Also Livepeer positions itself as an infrastructure provider not as a video sharing platform.

Oh, I think your project is very good because it involve to media. Will have a big community to support you. But I'm afraid about your platform, can it enough to manage a huge digital data?

Currently the Alpha works on IPFS and that works well for now, of course if you look at the whitepaper https://view.ly/downloads/whitepaper.pdf you will notice that the end goal is using hosting nodes capable enough to do the work necessary ( resources and bandwidth ) and introduce them into a marketplace from where the uploaders can choose a hosting node of their preference at a minimal cost.

Everything looks fine, BUT. What if you don't earn enough money without advertising? What if subscribers can't pay a lot? The bulk of bloggers now receive money only through advertising ...
This is interesting...

The way I see it is yes, a lot of content creators depend on the ad revenue but clearly that isn't enough because you also need ad placement for example ( introducing a product from a sponsor in your video ) to make at least a decent living.

Last I have read the average content creator makes about $1/1000 views if he is lucky and his video is not put side and demonitized because it's not "advertiser friendly"

In my personal optinion, if we take a good look an average of $1/1000 views is not a lot, if only 10 people would put $0.10 ( through likes, comments, sponsorships, patronage style, etc ) ( 0.10% ) said content creator would make at least the same amount as they would have adverts on.

[TudorOzy]

Nice idea! There are a few more video platforms. But competition is healthy, so the more the merryer.
I'll keep an eye on this. Good luck with the project!

Thank you klofanwik!

Yes, without a healthy competition there would be no progress in any area.

Here are some other snippets of information :
Allows ads   No
User friendly   Yes
Video Marketplace   Yes
Moderation/Flags   Community based
Social economy   Yes ( likes, comments, etc)

Pretty scanty information ...

Yes it is that is why I called it a snippet of information because it's very condensed . The whitepaper has a lot more information available and you can really see the vision taking form : https://view.ly/downloads/whitepaper.pdf

[Mila.Vitra]

Nice idea! There are a few more video platforms. But competition is healthy, so the more the merryer.
I'll keep an eye on this. Good luck with the project!

Thank you klofanwik!

Yes, without a healthy competition there would be no progress in any area.

Here are some other snippets of information :
Allows ads   No
User friendly   Yes
Video Marketplace   Yes
Moderation/Flags   Community based
Social economy   Yes ( likes, comments, etc)

Pretty scanty information ...

Yes it is that is why I called it a snippet of information because it's very condensed . The whitepaper has a lot more information available and you can really see the vision taking form : https://view.ly/downloads/whitepaper.pdf

An interesting project, but it seems to me that the functionality is rather narrow. I hope that in the future it will be expanded ...

[vkolotun]

Nice idea! There are a few more video platforms. But competition is healthy, so the more the merryer.
I'll keep an eye on this. Good luck with the project!

Thank you klofanwik!

Yes, without a healthy competition there would be no progress in any area.

Here are some other snippets of information :
Allows ads   No
User friendly   Yes
Video Marketplace   Yes
Moderation/Flags   Community based
Social economy   Yes ( likes, comments, etc)

Pretty scanty information ...

Yes it is that is why I called it a snippet of information because it's very condensed . The whitepaper has a lot more information available and you can really see the vision taking form : https://view.ly/downloads/whitepaper.pdf

An interesting project, but it seems to me that the functionality is rather narrow. I hope that in the future it will be expanded ...

The project is developed for creative people. They don't need to make money on advertising, it's not important to get a bunch of subscribers. Here people will spread what they like. Share what they like to do. Wide functionality for this is not necessary.

[Narimann]

How will the censorship process be implemented in the application?

I think most videos will be monitored by moderators. Or the most popular video. Then it will be easy to find forbidden content.

[FrederickFarci]

How will the censorship process be implemented in the application?

I think most videos will be monitored by moderators. Or the most popular video. Then it will be easy to find forbidden content.

I hope that censorship will be as short as possible.

[TudorOzy]

How will the censorship process be implemented in the application?

I think most videos will be monitored by moderators. Or the most popular video. Then it will be easy to find forbidden content.

We will likely establish several distributed and open access systems to aid with decision making  rankings and user experience. The idea is that all the participants should have the best possible information at all times which includes, but is not limited to, results of PoA ( proof of availability )  challenges, video demand statistics, copyright and content id tags and basic telemetry.


If a material is found by the community copyrighted or not family friendly it will recieve a tag and the hosting node would not want to host copyrighted material, the uploader and the hosting node ( if he continues to host the content ) would recieve a flag.


There will be an order book held and a real time bidding between content creators and hosting providers. Each video will be stored on at least three distinct nodes to ensure the video is not lost. Each content creator will likely receive personalized offers from potential hosting providers, primarily influenced by popularity and risk profiles. To make this process easier, as well as to aid in matching the particular content creators with the optimal hosting providers, we should aggregate additional information based on usage of the Viewly app, such as viewership statistics (timing and frequency of views, average per-country aggregates) and the risk profiles (content id tags, copyright flags, and/or other disputes).


The price of storage will only be a small proportion of earnings for popular content providers, a small price to pay for storing videos with high intrinsic/emotional value and  too expensive for low quality content and/or spam, ultimately eliminating the surplus of unpopular and/or spam videos.



The selected host will issue a bond (e.g. 20% of the annual hosting price) as a collateral for actually storing the file. If the hosting node fails a Proof of Storage (PoS) or Proof of Availability (PoA) challenges, they will lose the bond and and the offer to host this video will re-enter the marketplace.
In the event where content is purposefully discarded, both the bond and remaining funds in the contract are burned. The hosting provider forgoes the bond for the sake of aversion of potential legal liability, and the original uploader loses the remaining funds in the hosting contract. The hosting provider also suffers a small loss in their reputation score.

Of course nobody would stop you to spin up any kind of website based on the infrastructure and host your own materials but you would do so at your own risk.

[manox.dave]

How will the censorship process be implemented in the application?

I think most videos will be monitored by moderators. Or the most popular video. Then it will be easy to find forbidden content.

We will likely establish several distributed and open access systems to aid with decision making  rankings and user experience. The idea is that all the participants should have the best possible information at all times which includes, but is not limited to, results of PoA ( proof of availability )  challenges, video demand statistics, copyright and content id tags and basic telemetry.


If a material is found by the community copyrighted or not family friendly it will recieve a tag and the hosting node would not want to host copyrighted material, the uploader and the hosting node ( if he continues to host the content ) would recieve a flag.


There will be an order book held and a real time bidding between content creators and hosting providers. Each video will be stored on at least three distinct nodes to ensure the video is not lost. Each content creator will likely receive personalized offers from potential hosting providers, primarily influenced by popularity and risk profiles. To make this process easier, as well as to aid in matching the particular content creators with the optimal hosting providers, we should aggregate additional information based on usage of the Viewly app, such as viewership statistics (timing and frequency of views, average per-country aggregates) and the risk profiles (content id tags, copyright flags, and/or other disputes).


The price of storage will only be a small proportion of earnings for popular content providers, a small price to pay for storing videos with high intrinsic/emotional value and  too expensive for low quality content and/or spam, ultimately eliminating the surplus of unpopular and/or spam videos.



The selected host will issue a bond (e.g. 20% of the annual hosting price) as a collateral for actually storing the file. If the hosting node fails a Proof of Storage (PoS) or Proof of Availability (PoA) challenges, they will lose the bond and and the offer to host this video will re-enter the marketplace.
In the event where content is purposefully discarded, both the bond and remaining funds in the contract are burned. The hosting provider forgoes the bond for the sake of aversion of potential legal liability, and the original uploader loses the remaining funds in the hosting contract. The hosting provider also suffers a small loss in their reputation score.

Of course nobody would stop you to spin up any kind of website based on the infrastructure and host your own materials but you would do so at your own risk.

Pretty thoughtful system. But in my opinion it's very complicated ... Will there be an intuitive interface? Will it be more profitable for people to work with you, but not with YouTube?

[TudorOzy]

How will the censorship process be implemented in the application?

I think most videos will be monitored by moderators. Or the most popular video. Then it will be easy to find forbidden content.

We will likely establish several distributed and open access systems to aid with decision making  rankings and user experience. The idea is that all the participants should have the best possible information at all times which includes, but is not limited to, results of PoA ( proof of availability )  challenges, video demand statistics, copyright and content id tags and basic telemetry.


If a material is found by the community copyrighted or not family friendly it will recieve a tag and the hosting node would not want to host copyrighted material, the uploader and the hosting node ( if he continues to host the content ) would recieve a flag.


There will be an order book held and a real time bidding between content creators and hosting providers. Each video will be stored on at least three distinct nodes to ensure the video is not lost. Each content creator will likely receive personalized offers from potential hosting providers, primarily influenced by popularity and risk profiles. To make this process easier, as well as to aid in matching the particular content creators with the optimal hosting providers, we should aggregate additional information based on usage of the Viewly app, such as viewership statistics (timing and frequency of views, average per-country aggregates) and the risk profiles (content id tags, copyright flags, and/or other disputes).


The price of storage will only be a small proportion of earnings for popular content providers, a small price to pay for storing videos with high intrinsic/emotional value and  too expensive for low quality content and/or spam, ultimately eliminating the surplus of unpopular and/or spam videos.



The selected host will issue a bond (e.g. 20% of the annual hosting price) as a collateral for actually storing the file. If the hosting node fails a Proof of Storage (PoS) or Proof of Availability (PoA) challenges, they will lose the bond and and the offer to host this video will re-enter the marketplace.
In the event where content is purposefully discarded, both the bond and remaining funds in the contract are burned. The hosting provider forgoes the bond for the sake of aversion of potential legal liability, and the original uploader loses the remaining funds in the hosting contract. The hosting provider also suffers a small loss in their reputation score.

Of course nobody would stop you to spin up any kind of website based on the infrastructure and host your own materials but you would do so at your own risk.

Pretty thoughtful system. But in my opinion it's very complicated ... Will there be an intuitive interface? Will it be more profitable for people to work with you, but not with YouTube?

Regarding your first question : Of course our goal is to make it intuitive and user friendly. User experience and user interface are a really important part of the ecosystem and adoption, that is on the list

Regarding your second question: I can't comment on profitability . Everyone is at different stages I say continue to do what you do best on the platform that you are currently at where your subscribers and followers are and also try the Viewly Demo and the platform.