Bitcoin Town: Let's Make the Future Come to us

[freigeist]

The problem with guns is that they are easy to use and the same time
dangerous as also kids can use them.
And recently as you can see there were some slaughters made by kids i some schools in US and europe.
It would be better for community to learn martial arts this way you will get community of
physically healthy and physically stable mature non violent people.

I would also tell that the biggest criminals are not this poor few
mentally challenged that are waving with guns
but the others that are wearing nice suites and ties

You're a special kind of idiot if you give your kid a weapon or keep it in reach of a child. You don't give a child knifes and sharp scissors to play with either, I don't see why a responsible adult couldn't have a gun though. If you give me a gun, I'm pretty sure no accidents will happen and no child will come near it.

How do you explain those slaughters in Europe by the way? Guns are banned in most European countries.
And good luck with those martial arts when you need to fight against a bullet, unless your name is Neo, you'll probably lose it.

We can agree on that last thing though.  

How you know I'm an idiot if you don't know even if i have kids or if i have guns in my house.
All kids are the same are curious and likes to play and impersonate their parents or what they see on TV.
If they find a gun they will play with it because they will not know the consequences.
Is like it happens every end of year with the firecracker kids likes the sounds and color but then is not enough
and usually the try to make a bigger explosion! At the end we read in newspapers how many of them suffered
finger or fist mutilation because of their irresponsible game.
But i don't blame the kids as they have learned a lesson from their personal experience and stupidity but this
facts speaks more about their parents.

If the guns are banned it does not mean that the are not available.
Usually in EU there is a much more strict regulation about guns and is not easy to get one legally without
all papers (permits).
If i recall this slaughters in EU happened in countries where is legal to have a gun at home
if you have all the papers permits and I doubt that the kids in Germany and  Finland went to
buy the guns on the black market.

[nickenburg]

The Netherlands have btw less guns than the UK but more deaths.
Honduras has only 6.21 firearms per 100 people but 64.8 deaths.

I am from The Netherlands, and i know that almost all the shooting incidents are the Bigger criminals in Amsterdam.
And they are only killing other criminals with their guns and not civillians.
Thats why we have a higher gun/murder rate, But no innocent people get hurt most of the time.
Exept for the time we had a mall shooting simmilair to America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphen_aan_den_Rijn_shopping_mall_shooting

[BTCWizard]

The problem with guns is that they are easy to use and the same time
dangerous as also kids can use them.
And recently as you can see there were some slaughters made by kids i some schools in US and europe.
It would be better for community to learn martial arts this way you will get community of
physically healthy and physically stable mature non violent people.

I would also tell that the biggest criminals are not this poor few
mentally challenged that are waving with guns
but the others that are wearing nice suites and ties

You're a special kind of idiot if you give your kid a weapon or keep it in reach of a child. You don't give a child knifes and sharp scissors to play with either, I don't see why a responsible adult couldn't have a gun though. If you give me a gun, I'm pretty sure no accidents will happen and no child will come near it.

How do you explain those slaughters in Europe by the way? Guns are banned in most European countries.
And good luck with those martial arts when you need to fight against a bullet, unless your name is Neo, you'll probably lose it.

We can agree on that last thing though.  

How you know I'm an idiot if you don't know even if i have kids or if i have guns in my house.
All kids are the same are curious and likes to play and impersonate their parents or what they see on TV.
If they find a gun they will play with it because they will not know the consequences.
Is like it happens every end of year with the firecracker kids likes the sounds and color but then is not enough
and usually the try to make a bigger explosion! At the end we read in newspapers how many of them suffered
finger or fist mutilation because of their irresponsible game.
But i don't blame the kids as they have learned a lesson from their personal experience and stupidity but this
facts speaks more about their parents.

If the guns are banned it does not mean that the are not available.
Usually in EU there is a much more strict regulation about guns and is not easy to get one legally without
all papers (permits).
If i recall this slaughters in EU happened in countries where is legal to have a gun at home
if you have all the papers permits and I doubt that the kids in Germany and  Finland went to
buy the guns on the black market.

Sorry, if I've chosen the wrong wording. I'm not calling you an idiot, I say people who keep their guns in reach of children are. If you own a gun and have children it needs to be locked up somewhere save where your children can't access it. And just like with fireworks, you need to learn them how to threat those things in a responsible way and learn the dangers.

The Netherlands have btw less guns than the UK but more deaths.
Honduras has only 6.21 firearms per 100 people but 64.8 deaths.

I am from The Netherlands, and i know that almost all the shooting incidents are the Bigger criminals in Amsterdam.
And they are only killing other criminals with their guns and not civillians.
Thats why we have a higher gun/murder rate, But no innocent people get hurt most of the time.
Exept for the time we had a mall shooting simmilair to America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphen_aan_den_Rijn_shopping_mall_shooting

So our law is useless because criminals still have guns.
If one of those guys invades your property, how will you defend yourself?

I don't think they will leave their gun at home because they only use it against fellow criminals.

[Rassah]

Pretty silly arguments here

Guns are bad and used by criminals. I would feel safer without guns, and we can have security protect us
...
Those places with gun restrictions and high gun deaths just have corrupt security

Anyone else see a problem with this?

[BTCWizard]

Pretty silly arguments here

Guns are bad and used by criminals. I would feel safer without guns, and we can have security protect us
...
Those places with gun restrictions and high gun deaths just have corrupt security

Anyone else see a problem with this?

Let me guess, you gonna give those security guys guns?  

[Rassah]

Pretty silly arguments here

Guns are bad and used by criminals. I would feel safer without guns, and we can have security protect us
...
Those places with gun restrictions and high gun deaths just have corrupt security

Anyone else see a problem with this?

Let me guess, you gonna give those security guys guns?  

I would give everyone guns. Just in case the security becomes corrupt and decides they want to be in charge.

[MakeBelieve]

so is this happening or was it just a idea? I don't understand some of the replies and I have the view point that it was only a idea and has not been started yet or am I wrong?

[stompix]

so is this happening or was it just a idea? I don't understand some of the replies and I have the view point that it was only a idea and has not been started yet or am I wrong?

The idea wasn't feasible form the start , and the op wasn't sure or had no clue about many things that he planned.

1. Billy the Kid ran out the Illuminati by starting a war against the corrupt "Justice System" where the people were literally shooting at cops.

You see something wrong with his planning?

[MikeH]

I Feel safer for sure without guns, in my country you know you dont have to fear anyone can bring a gun to even normal people. I just dont like the idea that anybody can have a gun.
Ofcourse people can bring other weapons like hammer/baseballbat/knife but you can defend alot better vs that.
And with a gun, 1 bullet is all it takes you only have to pull the trigger. 

guns are hard to get where I am, I'd feel safer if I could have one at home.. I've seen many situations where 3 people with guns have run from 1 person with a gun, never seen 3 people with machetes run from 1 person with a machete, they are just overwhelmed and cut to bits - they aren't scared as they are of a single bullet.

there's certainly more home invasions and burglaries where there are less guns.

more importantly though is having protection from government and foreign invaders.

[stompix]

I Feel safer for sure without guns, in my country you know you dont have to fear anyone can bring a gun to even normal people. I just dont like the idea that anybody can have a gun.
Ofcourse people can bring other weapons like hammer/baseballbat/knife but you can defend alot better vs that.
And with a gun, 1 bullet is all it takes you only have to pull the trigger. 

guns are hard to get where I am, I'd feel safer if I could have one at home.. I've seen many situations where 3 people with guns have run from 1 person with a gun, never seen 3 people with machetes run from 1 person with a machete, they are just overwhelmed and cut to bits - they aren't scared as they are of a single bullet.

there's certainly more home invasions and burglaries where there are less guns.

more importantly though is having protection from government and foreign invaders.

Are you sure you can back this with some numbers?

[KonstantinosM]

I just read the OP....

I'm an atheist so the church thing was my first red flag. Why not a community center.

All the YouTube videos are down.

This project may just not be feasible in the way that has been described. Maybe we can try for a bitcoin village first? I'd like it to be on a cave up high overlooking the sea. Maybe somewhere in Greece.

If only I had 1000 BTC.... I'd make it happen.

[Spendulus]

I Feel safer for sure without guns, in my country you know you dont have to fear anyone can bring a gun to even normal people. I just dont like the idea that anybody can have a gun.
Ofcourse people can bring other weapons like hammer/baseballbat/knife but you can defend alot better vs that.
And with a gun, 1 bullet is all it takes you only have to pull the trigger. 

guns are hard to get where I am, I'd feel safer if I could have one at home.. I've seen many situations where 3 people with guns have run from 1 person with a gun, never seen 3 people with machetes run from 1 person with a machete, they are just overwhelmed and cut to bits - they aren't scared as they are of a single bullet.

there's certainly more home invasions and burglaries where there are less guns.

more importantly though is having protection from government and foreign invaders.

Give me one bullet and ten minutes and I'll have something to make it go in the pointed direction at a high rate of speed.

[Kaligulax]

I love Bitcoins... but I dream of non-monetary society... the only way to humanity prosperity

[Bit_Happy]

More than one location would be great (i.e New Hampshire, Nevada, Colorado)
Colorado should be a top priority, imo.

[freigeist]

More than one location would be great (i.e New Hampshire, Nevada, Colorado)
Colorado should be a top priority, imo.

Yes Colorado could be good.
A lot of empty land not crowded you can grow your own pot
and houses could be built form earth in the desert like "Earth ships".
What are the weather conditions there during the year?!

[Bit_Happy]

More than one location would be great (i.e New Hampshire, Nevada, Colorado)
Colorado should be a top priority, imo.

Yes Colorado could be good.
A lot of empty land not crowded you can grow your own pot
and houses could be built form earth in the desert like "Earth ships".
What are the weather conditions there during the year?!

At least 3/4 of the year is beautiful, and during the winter we could visit the New Mexico location.  
edit: Winter is good too, especially if you like to ski.

[smeagol]

Is this idea actually going to happen?

[acs267]

Is this idea actually going to happen?

I don't think so. This was in 2013 when Fin wanted to make a Utopia. Since then, he's left the forums.

[freedomno1]

Is this idea actually going to happen?

I don't think so. This was in 2013 when Fin wanted to make a Utopia. Since then, he's left the forums.

I was wondering what happened to Finshaggys idea well it still lives in a variant form one way or the other since it gets revived now and then

[wemine]

New Athens would be a terrible name