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July 20, 2013, 07:53:57 PM
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It's scams all the way down.
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July 20, 2013, 08:22:52 PM
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Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus". There is no proof of statistical data thus I am lowering this dice game. The UI is also rather amateurish which most of the time just makes me look into the owners and check whether the website is a scam, can never be too cautious when every high school kid thinks he can own a Bitcoin casino.
I lol'd, this "evidence" is due to you being mad about dooglus, well, TALKING on this thread. Lmao
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July 21, 2013, 07:01:57 AM
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Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus". There is no proof of statistical data thus I am lowering this dice game. The UI is also rather amateurish which most of the time just makes me look into the owners and check whether the website is a scam, can never be too cautious when every high school kid thinks he can own a Bitcoin casino.
I lol'd, this "evidence" is due to you being mad about dooglus, well, TALKING on this thread. Lmao

What is "proof of statistical data"?  What can I provide to prove the data?

The site has been up 4 weeks and handled bets of over half a million BTC.  Don't you think if it was a scam someone would have actually made a complaint about it by now?  But no, we've handled over 32 million bets and had no complaints.

"SatoshiDice is the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe" and they've processed less than 6 million bets in well over a year.  In our first month we've handled more bets than the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe.

Still think it's a scam?

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July 21, 2013, 07:14:02 AM
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Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus". There is no proof of statistical data thus I am lowering this dice game. The UI is also rather amateurish which most of the time just makes me look into the owners and check whether the website is a scam, can never be too cautious when every high school kid thinks he can own a Bitcoin casino.
I lol'd, this "evidence" is due to you being mad about dooglus, well, TALKING on this thread. Lmao

What is "proof of statistical data"?  What can I provide to prove the data?

The site has been up 4 weeks and handled bets of over half a million BTC.  Don't you think if it was a scam someone would have actually made a complaint about it by now?  But no, we've handled over 32 million bets and had no complaints.

"SatoshiDice is the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe" and they've processed less than 6 million bets in well over a year.  In our first month we've handled more bets than the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe.

Still think it's a scam?

Thing is that you have absolute no data to prove your claim, nada, SatoshiDice on the other hand, has data to prove every single bet.

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July 21, 2013, 07:19:16 AM
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Just-dice I have analyzed this reported scam and it seems to be completely fair, furthermore it is being run by the noble "dooglus". There is no proof of statistical data thus I am lowering this dice game. The UI is also rather amateurish which most of the time just makes me look into the owners and check whether the website is a scam, can never be too cautious when every high school kid thinks he can own a Bitcoin casino.
I lol'd, this "evidence" is due to you being mad about dooglus, well, TALKING on this thread. Lmao

What is "proof of statistical data"?  What can I provide to prove the data?

The site has been up 4 weeks and handled bets of over half a million BTC.  Don't you think if it was a scam someone would have actually made a complaint about it by now?  But no, we've handled over 32 million bets and had no complaints.

"SatoshiDice is the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe" and they've processed less than 6 million bets in well over a year.  In our first month we've handled more bets than the most popular Bitcoin betting game in the universe.

Still think it's a scam?

Thing is that you have absolute no data to prove your claim, nada, SatoshiDice on the other hand, has data to prove every single bet.

The fuck? There is a log of every single bet...
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July 21, 2013, 08:31:46 AM
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Thing is that you have absolute no data to prove your claim, nada, SatoshiDice on the other hand, has data to prove every single bet.

What would you consider proof?  Maybe I should ask for videos of every mouse-click, like insanity dice?

SatoshiDice can't prove that they have real players either.  It could be Erik playing against himself.

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July 21, 2013, 06:11:36 PM
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Added your entry of TFto the list:
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July 21, 2013, 09:18:32 PM
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Thing is that you have absolute no data to prove your claim, nada, SatoshiDice on the other hand, has data to prove every single bet.

What would you consider proof?  Maybe I should ask for videos of every mouse-click, like insanity dice?

SatoshiDice can't prove that they have real players either.  It could be Erik playing against himself.

Where is the list of all the bets together with txids that are on the blockchain on Just-dice.com?

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July 22, 2013, 07:13:35 AM
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Where is the list of all the bets together with txids that are on the blockchain on Just-dice.com?

Just-Dice doesn't fill the blockchain with bets.  If you had done any research at all you would know that.

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July 22, 2013, 07:50:22 AM
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It's funny because this thread is garbage and every poster here has a Trust rating of -10 or less.

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July 22, 2013, 05:57:09 PM
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It's funny because this thread is garbage and every poster here has a Trust rating of -10 or less.

It is, because most of them are either the scammers that I have reported or their shills, they also get pissed off and neg rep me too.

Where is the list of all the bets together with txids that are on the blockchain on Just-dice.com?

Just-Dice doesn't fill the blockchain with bets.  If you had done any research at all you would know that.

Dooglus, stop trying to twist your way out of this, where is the list of the txids of the desposits of all the accounts on your website?

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July 22, 2013, 05:59:53 PM
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My god, this troll still has this list going on? I thought it'd go away after 4 pages.
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July 22, 2013, 06:04:43 PM
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Dooglus, stop trying to twist your way out of this, where is the list of the txids of the desposits of all the accounts on your website?

I'm not trying to twist my way out of anything.

The list of deposit txids is in the site's database.  It's private.  I'm under no obligation to provide you with details of Just-Dice customer deposits and withdrawals.  You could check the blockchain and trace comings and goings to the published cold wallet address if you like - due to the nature of bitcoin such analysis is possible.  Each time a customer deposits, a new deposit address is created for them.  This is to maintain their privacy.  I'm not going to compromise customer privacy by telling you which deposits were for which customer.  What business is that of yours?

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July 22, 2013, 09:01:58 PM
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How is this thread still alive??? It must be very entertaining.
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July 24, 2013, 10:18:49 AM
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Dooglus, stop trying to twist your way out of this, where is the list of the txids of the desposits of all the accounts on your website?

I'm not trying to twist my way out of anything.

The list of deposit txids is in the site's database.  It's private.  I'm under no obligation to provide you with details of Just-Dice customer deposits and withdrawals.  You could check the blockchain and trace comings and goings to the published cold wallet address if you like - due to the nature of bitcoin such analysis is possible.  Each time a customer deposits, a new deposit address is created for them.  This is to maintain their privacy.  I'm not going to compromise customer privacy by telling you which deposits were for which customer.  What business is that of yours?

Then you can't really claim to be any popular than SatoshiDice, I do understand that SatoshiDice could just be laundering coins but at least they have some minimal proof, unlike you. The invest option could potentially be used as a pyramid scheme and all the bet counters extremely over-inflated.

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July 24, 2013, 10:48:27 AM
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Dooglus, stop trying to twist your way out of this, where is the list of the txids of the desposits of all the accounts on your website?

I'm not trying to twist my way out of anything.

The list of deposit txids is in the site's database.  It's private.  I'm under no obligation to provide you with details of Just-Dice customer deposits and withdrawals.  You could check the blockchain and trace comings and goings to the published cold wallet address if you like - due to the nature of bitcoin such analysis is possible.  Each time a customer deposits, a new deposit address is created for them.  This is to maintain their privacy.  I'm not going to compromise customer privacy by telling you which deposits were for which customer.  What business is that of yours?

Then you can't really claim to be any popular than SatoshiDice, I do understand that SatoshiDice could just be laundering coins but at least they have some minimal proof, unlike you. The invest option could potentially be used as a pyramid scheme and all the bet counters extremely over-inflated.

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July 25, 2013, 10:17:04 PM
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Dooglus, stop trying to twist your way out of this, where is the list of the txids of the desposits of all the accounts on your website?

I'm not trying to twist my way out of anything.

The list of deposit txids is in the site's database.  It's private.  I'm under no obligation to provide you with details of Just-Dice customer deposits and withdrawals.  You could check the blockchain and trace comings and goings to the published cold wallet address if you like - due to the nature of bitcoin such analysis is possible.  Each time a customer deposits, a new deposit address is created for them.  This is to maintain their privacy.  I'm not going to compromise customer privacy by telling you which deposits were for which customer.  What business is that of yours?

Then you can't really claim to be any popular than SatoshiDice, I do understand that SatoshiDice could just be laundering coins but at least they have some minimal proof, unlike you. The invest option could potentially be used as a pyramid scheme and all the bet counters extremely over-inflated.

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July 26, 2013, 06:20:59 AM
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Where is the list of all the bets together with txids that are on the blockchain on Just-dice.com?

Just-Dice doesn't fill the blockchain with bets.  If you had done any research at all you would know that.

my 2c, Id argue just-dice is one of the most trustworthy btc casinos run by one of the most helpful and honest bitcointalk members - period.

I gave it a good going over when it was on testnet and have observed friends playing with real BTC, Im 100% satisfied with its operations.

Yes, Dooglus could cheat investors, the same is true for SDICE (I actually have suspicions they did this heavily prior to IPO).  

Are we arguing that the casino is a scam ?
if so I disagree.

Is it that the operator could (with some effort) take advantage of investors by abusing their knowledge of the secret.
Then yes, of course Dooglus "Could" do this, if you have concerns about this then you should not invest. I made the same argument against investing in SDICE.

However this has no bearing on a players experience which is my primary concern.





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July 26, 2013, 06:32:52 AM
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Thanks for this! With the nature of bitcoins there's gotta be a community-wide watch for scams.
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July 26, 2013, 04:44:43 PM
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YUP! Couldn't agree more.

Thanks for this! With the nature of bitcoins there's gotta be a community-wide watch for scams.

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