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Author Topic: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax  (Read 343648 times)
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February 06, 2018, 08:57:19 PM
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How much longer can difficulty remain <200K Huh
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February 06, 2018, 09:09:43 PM
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How much longer can difficulty remain <200K Huh


ZCL is basically getting destroyed with the developer team moving onto to some sort of scam with 25% promised profit with BTCP. Not sure what happened but most of them probably cashed out at all time highs and are jumping ship from ZCL. The new BTCP they are pushing is nothing like BitcoinZ.

So to answer your question, with most ZCL miners moving over, the difficulty could double in the next month and your mining results could be cut in half.

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February 06, 2018, 09:11:41 PM
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Hi Everybody!

Is 1.5 BTC enough for BTC-Alpha?

In this site i see 3 BTC.

https://btc-alpha.com/coin-listing/

Have we any discounts?
When can we go to their list?

Thank you and HODL!

We don't need BTC-Alpha let alone paying them. Its not like they are Cryptooia ad HitBTC or Bittrex or Binance.

If they add BTCZ they will make a lot of money on fees. They can go F themselves with their 3BTC requirement.

BTCZ is the best ZSnarks Equihash coin to mine. And has massively undervalued marketcap of $6M compared to ZCL market cap of $245M that doesnt even have an android wallet and the dev team is jumping ship to BTCP a scamcoin that requires one to lock up their coins for a future 25% profit paid in BTCP. What a mess .

We need to respect and value BTCZ as one of the best coins available.
I don't think we need to tell them to go f themselves, but I do agree that they are asking too much. If btc-alfa were smart they would add our coin for free knowing they will make a lot of fees from trading.



I think the PAY requirement is done for JUNK coins , SCAMs and 100% premined ICO coins, such as PAC or VITRO.

BitcoinZ is a prestigious coin with ZERO premine and ZERO dev fee. This is truly in the class of the original Bitcoin but faster and newer.

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February 06, 2018, 09:25:47 PM
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I think BitcoinZ is the most "fair" coin of all. But why the price is so low ?  (i understand that its new coin and total supply 21bill ... but why SOOO Low ?!)

What do you think ?  Will this coin gain some worth or die ?
BTCz is a comunautary coin : no proprietary team, all is open source. Then, BTCz can't die or will only if the community die, this is quasi impossible.
For other coins with official teams, if the team die, the coin die : not with BTCz.

BTCz price is not so low : have you seen the others coins price fall, BTCz price is still around 80 satoshis : it is very good.
BTCz price will rise in the near future, probably in the next crypto pump, probably this month or march.
The Exchange Race has been going on for more than a month now and only 12% raised. I'm not expecting this to finish anytime soon for another price jump. But on the bright side, it gives everyone more time to stock up on BitcoinZ.

Even it is the fairest coin it is still lacking the ecosystem of other coins. You can't expect the community from other coins to just jump ship and join a coin with a much smaller ecosystem. There is a lot of opportunity cost involved.


What is it missing? I think you just spoke without having a clue.

BTCZ has super fast working Android wallet. Even ZClassic does NOT have an Android wallet. Zelcash is a copy/paste joke by the greedy.

BTCZ has ZERO premine. Many others, even new ones do have major taxes.

BTCZ has weathered the recent crashes and still hovering around the same price as a month ago. Steady at its super low prices of 80 Satoshis which is ridiculously low. BTCZ has 1/1000 numebr of coins compared to BTC so the nominal price is 0.001BTC or 100,000 Satoshis to reach the same market cap of Bitcoin. Even if it does not, it is still trading 1000 times less what its nominal value. Keep in mind on equal grounds, ETH for example is trading at half of its nominal value.

You got me wrong. I am not saying your coin doesn't have anything to offer. The problem for any new coin now is that it starts with a very tiny ecosystem and it is tough to build a large enough ecosystem to attract even more people from coins with larger ecosystems. It sounds weird but that is the case. Nothing against BTCZ.

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February 06, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
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What's wrong with this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zaOVFLt858 ?
Was a BTCZ video.

 Huh
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February 06, 2018, 10:23:35 PM
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I think BitcoinZ is the most "fair" coin of all. But why the price is so low ?  (i understand that its new coin and total supply 21bill ... but why SOOO Low ?!)

What do you think ?  Will this coin gain some worth or die ?

BTCZ = community coin, no premine, no dev fund, no ICO, and no founders reward  

It is by far the fairest coin and over time will do well in my opinion.    Would you bother investing or mining in these pump&dump/shams/scams below?

Sham coins with zk-snarks:
ZEC = Development here, but 20% founders WTF
ZEN = ZCL fork, 8.5% treasury fund
ZCL = ZEC fork, fork to BTCP
VOT = 4.54% premine
HUSH = Premine, airdrop to BTCH
KMD = ICO 100M coins
SNG = 5% founders
ZEL = 6.2% dev fund


Golden list. I would add market cap next to each one to show how underpriced BTCZ actually is!

Current fair value for BTCZ is approx 0.00003325


ZEC = 20% founders WTF =                         Market Cap $1,208M - > BTCZ = 14,310 Satoshi with similar valuation
ZEN = ZCL fork, 8.5% treasury fund             Market Cap $114M -> BTCZ = 1,350 Satoshi with similar valuation
ZCL = ZEC fork, fork to BTCP                       Market Cap$293M -> BTCZ = 3,470 Satoshi with similar valuation
VOT = 4.54% premine                                 Market Cap $280M -> BTCZ = 3,316 Satoshi with similar valuation
KMD = ICO 100M coins                                  Market Cap $383M -> BTCZ = 4,537 Satoshi with similar valuation
BTCP = fork of ZCL, starting as a total scam, locking ZCL miners into 25%+ guaranteed profit

BTCZ = 0 dev fund, 0 premine 0 airdrop          Market Cap $6.5M -> 77 Satoshi -> Significantly undervalued. This price is a joke, anyone selling at this price or anything below will regret.

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February 06, 2018, 11:55:36 PM
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Devs, do you are trying to put BitcoinZ in new exchanges? This coin is amazing, but the marketcap and the volume may be higher.

I’m mining btcz, but it’s difficult to sell a few coins keeping a good price.

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February 07, 2018, 12:14:05 AM
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Devs, do you are trying to put BitcoinZ in new exchanges? This coin is amazing, but the marketcap and the volume may be higher.

I’m mining btcz, but it’s difficult to sell a few coins keeping a good price.

ZCL is in 4 markets $245M marketcap
Bittrex
Cryptopia
CoinExchange
Trade Satoshi
BarterDEX (no volume, just listed)

BTCZ is in 3 markets $6.5M marketcap
Stocks.Exchange
Trade Satoshi
C-CEX

The problem doesn't seem to be exchanges. Its more marketing and awareness. BTCZ is at an incredibly low price. Its worth at LEAST 2000 Satoshis right now. It's ridiculous how cheap it is being sold by miners in our community.

I never sell any that I mine. Plus I am continuously buying. I will start selling a little bit when marketcap hits $100M (BTCZ = 0.00001185) just to pay my costs of power and investment but will not sell before that.


On the other hand:

All Equihash projects are designed to enrich the developers. All of them. ZEC, VOT, KMD, etc the all have dev fees embedded.

ZCL started off great but with BTCP they are basically running a weird convoluted, secretive fork, abandoning the original ZCL project. On top of abandoning their original project, they are running a 25% minimum to 5x BTCP bonus if you mine in their pool and give them 100% of your hashpower for free HOPING you get more BTCP who knows what they will be worth.

Most non-equihash coins have supernode fees. So you have a supernode dude taking 50% of your mined coins.

All ICOs are 100% premined scams that could crash 95% of their value in a flash of a second like BCC did, because they are centralized. Kind of like how Saddam lost power, his empire collapsed because he fully centralized his power. That would never happen in a democracy like US, Europe or similarly in a mined coin.

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February 07, 2018, 02:06:54 AM
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In my opinion, what we are missing is a use case that will raise our transaction volume and increase demand. Without a reason to use the coin, we are only going to slowly grow the market cap.
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February 07, 2018, 03:37:47 AM
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In my opinion, what we are missing is a use case that will raise our transaction volume and increase demand. Without a reason to use the coin, we are only going to slowly grow the market cap.

slow growth is the plan.
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February 07, 2018, 05:23:37 AM
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Take a look at the following chart. It seems that BTCZ will start a new cycle of pump-to-dump, dump-to-pump soon. I mean periodic pumps and dumps.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoinz/

Happy mining and happy trading, everyone.

BtcZ IS NOT A PUMP AND DUMP SHITCOIN
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February 07, 2018, 07:50:29 AM
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Hello
today i open my windows wallet
but give me this error  ::

A general unexpected critical error has occurred:
error: couldnt connect to server: EOF reached (code 1)

whats the problem ?
please help


You people need to read some pages before posting. Look back a few posts. Someone already answered.

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February 07, 2018, 11:55:30 AM
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https://btc-alpha.com/exchange/BTCZ_BTC/

here we go)

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February 07, 2018, 11:58:07 AM
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is that 21 billion coins, well i just dont like coins with bid supplies, unless , its must have real infrastructures behind it, or a community like doge coin, but its great it pow, wish you luck.
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February 07, 2018, 12:32:59 PM
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Congrats Community !!!
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February 07, 2018, 12:48:51 PM
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Excuse me, but what comunity likes on BTC Alpha ? For me it looks like solid crap  Huh Maybe somethink behind it...
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February 07, 2018, 12:49:44 PM
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Congratulations! But is the exchange secured to trade? I have never traded on BTC-Alpha.
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February 07, 2018, 12:52:59 PM
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http://f2.s.qip.ru/qpjF8UMD.png

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February 07, 2018, 01:55:41 PM
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Congratulations! But is the exchange secured to trade? I have never traded on BTC-Alpha.

In my opinion: yes! I did not know BTC-Alpha until I saw the exchange vote for BTCZ. I instantly recognized that they are using the same software as WEX (formerly known as BTC-e). It looks like they only changed the websites stylesheet.

BTC-e (now WEX) is the oldest exchange out there (up since 2011) and NEVER got hacked. The API is great, they handled every DDOS attack well, the support is ok and you can trade Coins for USD without verification! BTC-e was shut down by the FBI, because one of the admins might have something to do with Mt.Gox robbery. Everyone thought that the guys from BTC-e will ran away with the coins - but they did not. The opened WEX just a few weeks later. And they are still paying back the money to their customers. In the end, no one will have lost a single dollar, despite the FBI probably still having all their fiat money.

I think the BTC-e team just split up. Some of then opened WEX with all the old customers and the others opened BTC-Alpha.

I am using BTC-e since Jan. 2013 and its by far the best exchange out there! They do not add every shit coin, but just those, which are here to stay. So far, only Feathercoin is the only coin that got to BTC-e and failed (delisted in 2014 I think). If there is a lot of trading volume for BTCZ on BTC-Alpha, then WEX might list our coin for free. And that's gonna be huge!



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February 07, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
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Here we go!

First place to trade USD pair.
https://btc-alpha.com/exchange/BTCZ_USD/

When does it works?
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