NY Talks

[myrthme]

I wonder, why nobody discusses the court case against Rusbase?

Looks like it was really customized because in the article the dirt flows against Worldcore. The court says the trademark legally neither belongs to citizen Nasonov, nor the “EUPSProvider s.r.o.” because of the long registration procedure.  
In addition, the court considered that the information contained in the article is nothing more than an expression of the right of everyone to express their opinion.  

The facts contained in the article are an expression of a subjective opinion, and are not a priori subject to verification of reality.

And what is most funny, the court points out that "the phrases challenged by the Claimants consist almost entirely of neologisms, Anglicisms and jargon, and belong to the category of "passive" vocabulary ... and do not have an unequivocal interpretation."

So, the Russian court of the first echelon says that the word "scam", in particular, is familiar to it, but is not in any dictionary and is not included in "active" vocabulary, and therefore its use is considered solely an expression of subjective opinion and does not affect the reputation.  

[xtraelv]

Worldcore was accused of having the same Google Analytics code UA-33418442 as the Benson Union financial pyramid had (archive).

After this accusation Worldcore removed their tracks from the Builtwith.com website.

I agree that something has happened there because the buildwith website no longer allows searches for Worldcore related information.

Fortunately that information is available elsewhere too:




https://web.archive.org/web/20181013140505/http://regcure.relatedsite.com/analystic/UA-33418442-2


https://web.archive.org/web/20181013135954/https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/UA-33418442







Web archives also archive the google analytics code for Benson Union UA-36488968-1

Code:

view-source:https://web.archive.org/web/20130502090202/https://bensonunion.net/

https://web.archive.org/web/20130502090202/https://bensonunion.net/ (have a look at the source code)

Web archives also archive the google analytics code for Worldcore. UA-33418442-2

Code:

view-source:https://web.archive.org/web/20180812031322/https://worldcore.eu/

https://web.archive.org/web/20180812031322/https://worldcore.eu/ (have a look at the source code)

There does appear to be some sort of relationship between the tags.
https://web.archive.org/web/20181013135954/https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/UA-33418442
https://web.archive.org/web/20181013152119/https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/UA-36488968





https://web.archive.org/web/20130602014421/http://www.forexcorporation.org:80/

Code:

view-source:https://web.archive.org/web/20130602014421/http://www.forexcorporation.org:80/

There appears to be a second code at the end of the archived file.


https://web.archive.org/web/20130602014421/http://www.forexcorporation.org:80/

Code:

view-source:https://web.archive.org/web/20130602014421/http://www.forexcorporation.org:80/

https://web.archive.org/web/20130502090202/https://bensonunion.net/

Code:

view-source:https://web.archive.org/web/20130502090202/https://bensonunion.net/

Code:

<script type="text/javascript">

   var _gaq = _gaq || [];
   _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-33418442-1']);
   _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);

   (function() {
     var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type =
'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
     ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://web.archive.org/web/20130502090202/https://ssl/' :
'https://web.archive.org/web/20130502090202/http://www/') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
     var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0];
s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
   })();

</script>	

Benson Union appears to have two google analytics codes - one of those codes UA-33418442 appears to be the same code as worldcore used.

The other code UA-36488968 appears to link it to other questionable sites.

[akarmin]

I have just googled this question and found out an interesting fact. It says that when different companies apply for creating a website to popular programmers (developers), they often use their own accounts of FB and GA. so, if some programmer developed different websites of different companies, it doesn't necessarily mean that the first company is related to the second one

[compelito]

Telegram Worldcore Official Channel has only 181 members. In view of alleged 300.000 customers this number is scary little. I tried to join Telegram: They wanted to know my telephone number, I transmitted it four times but every time they told me "wrong number".

lol lol lol 'lecturer ' first i thou ght u were banned in google bcoz u coud/nt find links 2 the official worldcores sites ..now i see u were banned in telegram asl well lol

[researcher194]

I wonder, why nobody discusses the court case against Rusbase?

Looks like it was really customized because in the article the dirt flows against Worldcore. The court says the trademark legally neither belongs to citizen Nasonov, nor the “EUPSProvider s.r.o.” because of the long registration procedure.  
In addition, the court considered that the information contained in the article is nothing more than an expression of the right of everyone to express their opinion.  

The facts contained in the article are an expression of a subjective opinion, and are not a priori subject to verification of reality.

And what is most funny, the court points out that "the phrases challenged by the Claimants consist almost entirely of neologisms, Anglicisms and jargon, and belong to the category of "passive" vocabulary ... and do not have an unequivocal interpretation."

So, the Russian court of the first echelon says that the word "scam", in particular, is familiar to it, but is not in any dictionary and is not included in "active" vocabulary, and therefore its use is considered solely an expression of subjective opinion and does not affect the reputation.  

In all renowned English Dictionaries "scam" is mentioned as a synonym for "fraud". According to my English speaking email partners "scam" definitely belongs to active vocabulary, specially in the USA.

Worldcore Official Telegram Channel with about 3k members? Surely not:   https://imgur.com/a/l0hpquX  Even 3000 would be miserable. I think that´s not a suitable platform for official releases. 

[myrthme]

In all renowned English Dictionaries "scam" is mentioned as a synonym for "fraud". According to my English speaking email partners "scam" definitely belongs to active vocabulary, specially in the USA.

That's exactly what I'm speaking about: the word "scam" is an international word and can be found in any dictionary.
But the Russian court said this word didn't belong to active vocabulary, so it can't be considered as an expression that offends company's dignity and honor. That was one of the reason why the court refused to require Worldcore's demands. Uneducated people. LOL. 

[akarmin]

Worldcore Official Telegram Channel with about 3k members? Surely not:   https://imgur.com/a/l0hpquX  Even 3000 would be miserable. I think that´s not a suitable platform for official releases.  

anyway, it's on official platform and they are able to make announcements and publish news over there. I have checked once again - you are wrong, these channel has about 3k members as I already mentioned:
https://imgur.com/YohJwr9

[compelito]

Worldcore Official Telegram Channel with about 3k members? Surely not:   https://imgur.com/a/l0hpquX  Even 3000 would be miserable. I think that´s not a suitable platform for official releases.  

anyway, it's on official platform and they are able to make announcements and publish news over there. I have checked once again - you are wrong, these channel has about 3k members as I already mentioned:
https://imgur.com/YohJwr9

hahahaha lol !

'researcher ' u can lie when u read lectures 2 ur fake students but thass very hard 2 lie 2 people whpo r better digitally educated than u

once a liar --always a liar !!

[Veleor]

Worldcore, a global payment service provider had conducted a study on approximately 300,000 customers in total who are availing its service.

It is also not clear how they conducted the study on their customers. They may have "studied" sales data from since inception.





They also stated:


Many crypto related companies did see huge growth over the November 2017 to March 2018 period. I'd like to see Worldcore to provide some proof of those assertions. There does not appear to be any evidence that suggests that they have 300 000 customers.

By the beginning of ICO in October 2017 Worldcore sent one token to the more than 20 000 different wallets.
I think that the Worldcore managament tried to improve their story about 25 000 customers in this way.


Source: https://etherscan.io/token/generic-tokentxns2?contractAddress=0x72adadb447784dd7ab1f472467750fc485e4cb2d&mode=&p=2114

Numerous transfers of 1 WRC were noticed by users in the Russian-language Worldcore thread:

https://etherscan.io/token/0x72adadb447784dd7ab1f472467750fc485e4cb2d

вoт этo вoт чтo зa пpoдaжи пo 1 мoнeтe пo 50 paз?)))

Caмoe интepecнoe этo идёт c caмoгo нaчaлo пpoдaж, пo oднoй мoнeтe пocтoяннo пepeвoдитьcя нa кaкиe тo нeпoнятныe кoшeльки, вoпpoc тoлькo в тoм зaчeм? Дa и тyт тoпик ecть, гдe гoвopят чтo дaннaя кoмпaния cкaм.

Translation:
Adya: "What it is? Why the sales of 1 coin 50 times?)))".
Arist0tel: "The most interesting that it goes from the very beginning of the sales. One coin is constantly being transferred to some strange purses. The only question is - why? And there is the topic, where it is said that this company is scam".

Worldcore manager response:

Пo пoвoдy тpaнcфepoв пo oднoмy тoкeнy - этo чacть нaшeгo мapкeтингa. И нe тoлькo мы тaк дeлaeм.
Для кoгo-тo этo oчeвидный пpизнaк cкaмa, тaкoe oщyщeниe, чтo cлoвo cкaм кpичитcя нe дyмaя пoчти любым yчacтникoм фopyмa, ктo пpocтo нe пoнял cyть кaкoгo-либo вoпpoca Для нac этo oдин из cпocoбoв peклaмиpoвaть тoкeн

Translation:
FintechEU: "Speaking of transfers of one tokens - this is a part of our marketing. And we are not the only who doing this. For some this is an obvious sign of scam. There is a feeling that almost any forum member who don't understand the essence of question is screaming a word "scam" without thinking. For us, this is one of the ways to advertise token".

[akarmin]

By the beginning of ICO in October 2017 Worldcore sent one token to the more than 20 000 different wallets.
I think that the Worldcore managament tried to improve their story about 25 000 customers in this way.

nobody knows exactly. probably they can't disclose this information basing on the law on personal data protection.

[myrthme]

Translation:
FintechEU: "Speaking of transfers of one tokens - this is a part of our marketing. And we are not the only who doing this. For some this is an obvious sign of scam. There is a feeling that almost any forum member who don't understand the essence of question is screaming a word "scam" without thinking. For us, this is one of the ways to advertise token".

So what?) If this is a part of marketing strategy, aren't they able to this??)) Or what do you mean exactly under your words?) As far as I know, it is not prohibitted )

[researcher194]

Worldcore Official Telegram Channel with about 3k members? Surely not:   https://imgur.com/a/l0hpquX  Even 3000 would be miserable. I think that´s not a suitable platform for official releases.  

anyway, it's on official platform and they are able to make announcements and publish news over there. I have checked once again - you are wrong, these channel has about 3k members as I already mentioned:
https://imgur.com/YohJwr9

hahahaha lol !

'researcher ' u can lie when u read lectures 2 ur fake students but thass very hard 2 lie 2 people whpo r better digitally educated than u

once a liar --always a liar !!

You seem to me being very thumb, compelito. In his # 1575 member "myrthme" posted the link to Worldcore Official Telegram Channel:

https://t.me/worldcore_official    Click on it and you can see who is right with the number of members! Why do you call me a liar? Could you explain me, please, what you mean with "digitally educated"?

[myrthme]

Sorry, researcher194! I misspelled and disinformed you by accident. The actual link is: https://t.me/worldcore
 

[compelito]

You seem to me being very thumb, compelito. In his # 1575 member "myrthme" posted the link to Worldcore Official Telegram Channel:

https://t.me/worldcore_official    Click on it and you can see who is right with the number of members! Why do you call me a liar? Could you explain me, please, what you mean with "digitally educated"?

why ??bcoz u r a liar !! digitally edu cated means u can search any kind of imfrmation in google ,,if u r not able 2 do this ..it means u r not digitally educated !! got it ??

/are you banned in google btw ??

[akarmin]

that's what you need to know: marina uni disloses the personal data about ceo worldcore alex nasonov and threatens to other users to do the same.

Hacoнoв Aлeкceй Bлaдимиpoвич, кoтopый чиcлитcя влaдeльцeм и CEO Worldcore, HE живeт в Pocтoвe. Кaк и HE xoдит нa paбoтy в Пpaгe. Eгo зaгpaнпacпopт 1666715.

B Пpaгy oн влeтeл 4 янвapя 2017 гoдa peйcoм SU 2024 из Шepeмeтьeвo.

A yжe 7 янвapя oн вepнyлcя в Mocквy.

Зaтeм oн влeтeл в Пpaгy peйcoм SU 2024 yжe 27.02.

Зa 2017 oн был в Пpaгe тpи paзa.

Пocлeднee вoзвpaщeниe в Mocквy - 23.07.

A бyдeтe злить cвoими тyпыми бoтaми - пoгoвopим o внyтpeннeм пacпopтe, блoндинкe, peaльнoм мecтoпoлoжeнии и т.п. И нe тoлькo eгo. Xoтя мнe дeлaть этo oчeнь нe xoтeлocь, пocкoлькy я, в oтличиe oт вac, yвaжaю личныe дaнныe. Пoэтoмy пpeдyпpeждaю - eщe oдин выcep бoтoв здecь - и пoнeceтcя.

translation:

"Nasonov Alexey Vladimirovich, who is listed as the owner and CEO of Worldcore, does NOT live in Rostov. As does not go to work in Prague. His international passport is [......].

He flew to Prague on January 4, 2017 with flight SU 2024 from Sheremetyevo.

And on January 7, he returned to Moscow.

Then he flew into Prague with flight SU 2024 already 27.02.

For 2017 he was in Prague three times.

Last return to Moscow - 23.07.

if you continue irritating me with your stupid bots - let's talk about the internal passport, the blonde, the real location, etc. And not only about this. Although I really didn’t want to do this, because, unlike you, I respect personal data. Therefore, I warn you - some other posts of bots here - and rush."

[myrthme]

if you continue irritating me with your stupid bots - let's talk about the internal passport, the blonde, the real location, etc. And not only about this. Although I really didn’t want to do this, because, unlike you, I respect personal data. Therefore, I warn you - some other posts of bots here - and rush."

If the person respects something, but does diametrically opposed things, it testifies to his unfairness. Then, I'm a little bit astonished and even concerned about "the real location". Sounds like a threat from her side to others. Isn't it a violation of the forum rules? I wonder, who is she going to look for and whose location to determine?

[akarmin]

if you continue irritating me with your stupid bots - let's talk about the internal passport, the blonde, the real location, etc. And not only about this. Although I really didn’t want to do this, because, unlike you, I respect personal data. Therefore, I warn you - some other posts of bots here - and rush."

If the person respects something, but does diametrically opposed things, it testifies to his unfairness. Then, I'm a little bit astonished and even concerned about "the real location". Sounds like a threat from her side to others. Isn't it a violation of the forum rules? I wonder, who is she going to look for and whose location to determine?

unfortunatelly, I'm not an expert in linguistics, but she started threatening when other users found out her lies. she said that ceo worldcore alex nasonov allegedly had a business - a small shop in the ciry of komsomolsk-na-amure. as it was revealed, that man was a full namesake of alex nasonov, but not personally him. by this action, marina wanted to say that alex nasonov is not related to fintech technologies having just a small shop where alcohol and cigarettes are sold. dirty work!

[DonCarleon]

The law on personal data does not work for legal entities and public companies.

Worldcore the public company(scam company?) that made an IPO (ICO - Initial Public Coin).

[Veleor]

So what?) If this is a part of marketing strategy, aren't they able to this??)) Or what do you mean exactly under your words?) As far as I know, it is not prohibitted )

This is suggests that Worldcore most likely serves not 300 000 customers or not even 25 000, as it stated in their *deleted* White paper [page #15], but much less.

It is can be traced by the number of visitors on the worldcore.trade - 1771 per month: http://archive.li/Gm3mx

[researcher194]

You seem to me being very thumb, compelito. In his # 1575 member "myrthme" posted the link to Worldcore Official Telegram Channel:

https://t.me/worldcore_official    Click on it and you can see who is right with the number of members! Why do you call me a liar? Could you explain me, please, what you mean with "digitally educated"?

why ??bcoz u r a liar !! digitally edu cated means u can search any kind of imfrmation in google ,,if u r not able 2 do this ..it means u r not digitally educated !! got it ??

/are you banned in google btw ??

1. Please tell me exactly why you declare me to be a liar, please.

2. That´s a very strange explanation for "digitally educated". What have Google informations to do with "digital"? They are doubtlessly "analogous" = written in normal text. I regularly search for subjects via Google in German, English and French, and sometimes in Spanish and Italian, too, and I never had problems with Google. Why should they ban me?