Member Juneteenth just took my US$425 and sent no 4.0 BTC

[nottm28]

well, i chose to believe juneteenth after reviewing this thread.   mainly because he didn't just go away like a good scammer would.   i guess it takes a guy like me, who simply wants to believe not everyone in this world is trying to fuck people over, to ensure that some of you all use better judgement.

in fact, at this moment i am still giving him the benefit of the doubt..... and its fucking really hard to do.   i was part of the bitinstant fiasco last week and had a couple grand tied up in that deal.  not all of it was mine, and i ended up having to compensate that partner to the degree that i lost a lot of money.  so i decided to try and trade on the forum.  i deal with some of the darker parts of the web, so i'm not ignorant of the rampant scamming that resides there/here.

well, i sent over $1975 USD in MP to june a few hours ago.  he confirmed and sent the btc to my wallet from 3 accounts.   well, there is NOTHING on the blockchain for my btc wallet and it has been an hour and a half.   i am going to wait a couple more hours in the hopes that either:

1.  a slight delay was caused by something unknown.
2.  he used my funds to "pay paul" if you will and its going to take a few hours for him to figure out how to get it to me on time.

i don't like the odds on either of them, but that is all i got really.   because barring that, i just lost about all the money i have, and of course to make it worse.... the partner that got the run around with bitinstant last week?   yeah, he still trusts me because i'm a quality human being and he pitched in half of that money.   so i'm gonna be flat broke, owe a grand, and probably lose a pretty good friend out of the deal.

june,

please restore my faith in humanity brother.   i'm not sure you realize what type of impact this is going to have on my life.   more than a little bit.   for sure.

fuck.

Hope you get your coins. I was hoping June was genuine too. Good luck but learn a lesson - if in doubt and you aren't feeling the warmth and seeing the glowing appraisals from others doing the trade with the person, ask for escrow - it's only usually 1.5%-2% - once you have established trust you can take the gamble and go direct. But big numbers like $2k should always be escrow imo.

[nottm28]

That is the last message as he is now offline.  Its been three hours.   My wallet address not showing any activity on the blockchain.  of course i feel stupid for doing it, but man i really am more upset that people just don't care what the effect of their actions are for people like me.

3 hours is not enough time to start panicking. He could be in different timezone etc. Please keep us updated. I (and may others) are watching this thread.

[WuLabsWuTecH]

solidshotnosh - you are either a troll or a dickhead. Either way my 5 btc offer stands to resolve this.
You accuse me of multi accounts, thereby breaking the forum rules, thereby being unhonourable.
Unless you put up the coins, l consider your accusation complete garbage. Nothing further needs to be said to you.

Multi-forum accounts are not against forum rules and actually encourages for business vs personal or for people who want to express controversial views...

[WuLabsWuTecH]

June - lie about what exactly? I never said paypal wouldn't automatically find in my favour after the prescribed time for you to respond elapses.

It just sucks that you have made me wait 2 weeks for the time to elapse. You could have contacted them at any time to resolve it. And dont say you did - they have heard nothing from you.

Instead of you apologizing to me for making me go through this waiting because of you using a NON-verified paypal account. You keep trying to throw mud at me.

Now is the time for you to say "sorry mate, I hope you get your funds back with no further issues tomorrow".

I do want to point out (for posterity's sake so people reading this can learn a less for this) that you do know if you are paying a verified or non-verified account.  It's right there on paypal.

June - lie about what exactly? I never said paypal wouldn't automatically find in my favour after the prescribed time for you to respond elapses.

It just sucks that you have made me wait 2 weeks for the time to elapse. You could have contacted them at any time to resolve it. And dont say you did - they have heard nothing from you.

Instead of you apologizing to me for making me go through this waiting because of you using a NON-verified paypal account. You keep trying to throw mud at me.

Now is the time for you to say "sorry mate, I hope you get your funds back with no further issues tomorrow".

No the problem is Paypal Miscommunication. They have on record each time i call about my account. Now if i were to call paypal and ask about your account (meaning when did you call and things of that nature) they wouldnt tell me.. because of privacy policy. Of course they won't tell you. All they told me was they were "working on it" and you cannot rush Paypal. As much as i tried i finally kept getting the "June 20th" story. SO I have helped enough but you won't believe me. June 20th which is what the email says. See you when its back in your account sir.

P.S. You and XBOXGAMES (which is a confirmed scammer) bashed me repeatedly. So no i don't owe an apology based off that. I'll just be glad when this situation is over because i don't take paypal anymore because of this.

Do you owe him an apology?  Probably, but it's not good business practice to not give one even if it isn't your fault.  And who cares what another user says about this situation, you're the seller, YOUR reputation is more important than his, man up, swallow your pride and apologize.  You don't want people coming back to this thread and not doing business with you because of your attitude.

Seriously!  Do either of you know anything about business practices?  It's like the threat is beign dominated by two people with hot headed emotions and not rational business thought!

[WuLabsWuTecH]

well, i chose to believe juneteenth after reviewing this thread.   mainly because he didn't just go away like a good scammer would.   i guess it takes a guy like me, who simply wants to believe not everyone in this world is trying to fuck people over, to ensure that some of you all use better judgement.

in fact, at this moment i am still giving him the benefit of the doubt..... and its fucking really hard to do.   i was part of the bitinstant fiasco last week and had a couple grand tied up in that deal.  not all of it was mine, and i ended up having to compensate that partner to the degree that i lost a lot of money.  so i decided to try and trade on the forum.  i deal with some of the darker parts of the web, so i'm not ignorant of the rampant scamming that resides there/here.

well, i sent over $1975 USD in MP to june a few hours ago.  he confirmed and sent the btc to my wallet from 3 accounts.   well, there is NOTHING on the blockchain for my btc wallet and it has been an hour and a half.   i am going to wait a couple more hours in the hopes that either:

1.  a slight delay was caused by something unknown.
2.  he used my funds to "pay paul" if you will and its going to take a few hours for him to figure out how to get it to me on time.

i don't like the odds on either of them, but that is all i got really.   because barring that, i just lost about all the money i have, and of course to make it worse.... the partner that got the run around with bitinstant last week?   yeah, he still trusts me because i'm a quality human being and he pitched in half of that money.   so i'm gonna be flat broke, owe a grand, and probably lose a pretty good friend out of the deal.

june,

please restore my faith in humanity brother.   i'm not sure you realize what type of impact this is going to have on my life.   more than a little bit.   for sure.

fuck.


In case anyone feels like following along at home......

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« Sent to: Juneteenth on: Today at 03:38:06 PM »
   
646xxxxxxxxxxx

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$1000 and $975
Purchased in Dallas, TX at the same walmart at the same time.
man, i feel crazy doing this out of escrow.  make me a believer in mankind Smiley  Thanks.

Both going to wallet:
1AYoAQxwqoYq1B31f3xcQigm7Vg4djC5fF



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« Sent to: txlegally on: Today at 03:45:25 PM »
   
Okay got both. I'm calling greendot to verify now which is 3 mins or less



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« Sent to: txlegally on: Today at 03:58:10 PM »
   
Okay both are good. I will be sending from three different wallets



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« Sent to: Juneteenth on: Today at 04:48:59 PM »
   
thanks man.  a pleasure doing business.  if you are up for it in the future let me know.  i was part of the bitinstant fiasco last week and that is why i'm here.  so, if you need to cash out let me know.... and if you prefer another load card type....let me know that too and i'll get it instead.

thanks again.



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« Sent to: txlegally on: Today at 04:26:26 PM »

okay and yoou should be seeing them soon

That is the last message as he is now offline.  Its been three hours.   My wallet address not showing any activity on the blockchain.  of course i feel stupid for doing it, but man i really am more upset that people just don't care what the effect of their actions are for people like me.

Well if it shows up here shortly all is good, but why would you do out of escrow in that amount with a person who has outstanding issues on the board??

[goose20]

I 2nd what wulabs just said.
I really hope it works out for you txlegally. Damn...and I thought I was trusting.
Sigh.

[txlegally]

I can already tell you its not going to work out.  I'm assuming the problems he had with you is he was using a stolen paypal account or likely some other fraudulent way of doing things through them.  otherwise, I would be very interested in finding out what paypal account your refund is processed through... if it is.

bitcoin is anonymous, but pp isn't.  but i'm gonna give him credit and say he's at least that far ahead of this thing.

and yes, i understand the obvious.  i'm trusting, but it really isn't about that so much.  to be honest its all about greed.  i was in a hurry because those btc stood to make me a nice chunk of change.  instead of waiting for one of the two other vendors on here that have messaged me and are clearly on the level, i just had to get my btc so i could make a cutoff time to get a product by a certain date... and it was about money.    so greed and impatience.  i little stupidity thrown in there and someone who simply doesn't give a shit about anyone but themselves and there you have it.

what's sad is he could have made some good money off me, more than he made today, if he would just actually sell bitcoins to me.   i'm past mad, and i'm not going to cry.   i do know something that he doesn't know about moneypaks, in general, and he did break the law.  bitcoins have a tangible value and everything i do with them is above board. .. err not illegal anyway.

ugh.

[goose20]

Wow. That sucks dude. For someone who may have lost that much $$ you seem more annoyed with yourself than him. It shouldn't matter that it would of resulted in you getting profit or not - accepting blame for getting scammed is bogus. No one has the right to take advantage of anyone else. We dont blame the baby when the adult steals his candy because the baby was too weak etc etc.

Of the 2 possible outcomes ( I believe you won't get anything from him so that's not included) it'll be interesting for me to see which one happens from here. It'll either be June disappears for good or he gets back on here protesting his innocense and how's none of it is his fault yadda yadda.

I myself am still waiting for my funds. Today is the 1st day after the 10 day response period. June never responded to paypal - his statement that PP wouldn't tell me one way or other due to privacy is total crap. If he responded, the case would have closed in my favour.

What details do you have of him? I paid his paypal in name of Mike Harris on email toni3638@aim.com.

[txlegally]

oh, he is definitely gone from this site, under that account anyway.   because with paypal he could bs for a a bit, he just happened to be bullshitting the wrong crowd.   there is enough collective knowledge on PP's process that it was obvious he was using a hacked account.  which can be purchased for about 5 bucks on black market reloaded..... so it is clear that was his game and that is why he wouldn't/couldn't really put any effort in to helping you.   in your case paypal protected the true account owner, and you got screwed in the process.

with me, there is no story to try and stick by like he had an emergency and so he waited etc.   he said he sent the btc.   past tense.   i think we all know the odds of a btc transaction not ever showing up on the blockchain.  odds are even worse that something like that could hapen when sending coin from three wallets to one addressusing three wallets to fund it with.   i would venture the odds are at least 100:1 that all three wallets somehow malfunctioned etc.

he's gone.  if i'm wrong i'll give him 25% for coming back to fix it.   unfortunately  i'm not, he's gone.

[frott]

I have figured out why!
It seems as if paypal took the exchange fees when converting to USD from AUD so apparently its lot letting me send because i do not have the 16.88 USD in conversion fees.. IDK why but this is BS. the proof is below.
http://i40.tinypic.com/qposxe.png

just a heads up, try searching for AMATEUR porn black next time.

[goose20]

"just a heads up, try searching for AMATEUR porn black next time."
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lol. i cant believe no one else has picked that up before now. haha.

I think its finally been confirmed for good that Juneteenth is a scammer. To those that read the whole of this thread and still were wanting to believe his stories and that the blame was with paypal and not him... well i guess we all have learned something.

oh  btw, June is Argentinian (which is why his english wasn't the best) and his name is supposedly Mike Harris (per paypal). I am not 100% sure, but Mike Harris doesn't exactly sound like a name from that part of the world. Just a thought.

[Juneteenth]

whoa!! I just read this I have not been on here in 3 days. I did a password reset which was successful.  Txtlegally please pm me i never even exchange with you but i see a boatload of messages from you. Hopefully we can clear this up the right way by pm thanks :-)

Also Goose got his refund 100% from paypal EXACTLY WHEN THEY TOLD ME HE WOULD GET IT. I can also screenshot it if need be.

[WuLabsWuTecH]

"just a heads up, try searching for AMATEUR porn black next time."
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lol. i cant believe no one else has picked that up before now. haha.

I think its finally been confirmed for good that Juneteenth is a scammer. To those that read the whole of this thread and still were wanting to believe his stories and that the blame was with paypal and not him... well i guess we all have learned something.

oh  btw, June is Argentinian (which is why his english wasn't the best) and his name is supposedly Mike Harris (per paypal). I am not 100% sure, but Mike Harris doesn't exactly sound like a name from that part of the world. Just a thought.

BAHAHAHA!  How did I not see that!  I've watched that video so many times now!

[WuLabsWuTecH]

whoa!! I just read this I have not been on here in 3 days. I did a password reset which was successful.  Txtlegally please pm me i never even exchange with you but i see a boatload of messages from you. Hopefully we can clear this up the right way by pm thanks :-)

Also Goose got his refund 100% from paypal EXACTLY WHEN THEY TOLD ME HE WOULD GET IT. I can also screenshot it if need be.

With the amount of accusations here against you, i think you'd be best off preemptively screen-shotting it for all to see that this has been resolved.

[Juneteenth]

Here ya go :

http://i43.tinypic.com/9pue85.png

[goose20]

No need for that June.
I've always confirmed that paypal were going to refund me once response period elapsed.
It just sucked that I had my funds in limbo and had to wait.

[Juneteenth]

No need for that June.
I've always confirmed that paypal were going to refund me once response period elapsed.
It just sucked that I had my funds in limbo and had to wait.

this is resolved.. and i removed your negative feedback. thank you for being patient and hopefully you will do the same.

[BitNit]

Here ya go :

Quoting so can edit. Maybe someone should look into the IPs he has on his search bar?

Why are you here acting like a standup guy with the paypal reversal? You already stole dudes moneypak and the only reason you didn't steal the paypal is because you couldn't, not because you are honest. Well good thing for you the paypal denied you from scamming you actually ended up with more because of it... sad really.

Have fun with your amateur porn black scumbag. You are the reason I will never have kids.

[Juneteenth]

Here ya go :

http://i43.tinypic.com/9pue85.png

Quoting so can edit. Maybe someone should look into the IPs he has on his search bar?

Why are you here acting like a standup guy with the paypal reversal? You already stole dudes moneypak and the only reason you didn't steal the paypal is because you couldn't, not because you are honest. Well good thing for you the paypal denied you from scamming you actually ended up with more because of it... sad really.

Have fun with your amateur porn black scumbag. You are the reason I will never have kids.

first off.. I did not steal that guys moneypak. Secondly.. any moderator can read my ip and pm's and check that i had to do a PASSWORD reset because i got locked out of my account, but i did help to resolve it if that persons sends me a message. He isn't online so he has not. Leave it be. Has nothing to do with you or anyone else. Nobody tried to steal his paypal if you read the thread correctly.. But as childish you are.. its probably a stretch for you to read. Now leave it alone please.

BTW.. That's dollar amounts.. NOT IPS.

[BitNit]

If you didn't steal is moneypak what did you do with it? Or are you claiming someone hacked into a scammers account to scam and now you recovered your account? How convenient.


Sad part is there are prob a few out there that believe you.