Pakistan

[Cosmic Beyonders]

Well, Big news. This news made btc able to break resistance market sentiments are Bullish.
In the coming days Ela selva, 1 Billion BTC bonds will be Sold very soon a date was extended i think so, whenever this news will be in-market the market can take an upto 20% upward movement may be.

One more thing Luna made some changes in its UST minting system where when 1 UST minted
 1$ worth of Luna are burned but now 60% will be burned and 40% will goes to buy BTC.
Luna aims to 10Billion BTC buy for UST reserve in a critical situation.

Market is bullish this week may be market may hit 45K soon

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Well Binance community is too big to join Launchpad tokens for profit booking. But you can try luck on OKX they introduced JUMPPADs same as Launchpads they successfully launched their first Project may be Profitable for us in the future as well if we join.
No recommendation just information.
 

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[shahzadafzal]

Sab s phly to m punjabi bht achy s smj leti hun...
Or m n y misal sirf Kala bhag dam ki waja s d...
Or ap thk khty hen... M b zara punjabi m ik mhawra bol deti hun... Ethy ty itt patto ty wadera niklda a..

Oh ho ho impressed! Ma Sha Allah tusin great o!

Y to sai hero ban gaya h...
Chalen g Allah kary is ki mhnten rang ly aen... Aammeenn

Hero tu ye hai so called he sahi but mehnat ab koi rang shang nahi laai wese. Al though its a good video but I suspect the more I watched the video the more I realized it looks like a self-promotion. I don't know but I felt it.

Koi bhi 100% good ya bad ni hota. I think  waqar zaka ki kuch batein achi bhi hein aur kuch sai ni bhi hein

Pros:
1) He is giving crypto awareness in 10$ per month jo k bohat cheap price hy.
2) He is fighting to make crypto legal

Cons:
1) He has some hidden agenda to promote his coin/exchanges
2) He is promoting future trading , new traders must be losing a lot
3) Woh trading sikka ni raha, he wants k you become his student forever and fazool batein like trading signals through astrology etc

I agree to your this pro 2 point yes he's doing his best to make it legal and taking $10 for awareness I think it's not a Pros but con.

All the cons are 100% true and I agree with you but sab batoan ki aik baat "andhon main kaana raja" jab hamary pass aur hai he koi nahi tu phir yehi hamara hero bhi aur yehi zero bhi

Yeh tab dekha jiey ga jab pakistan mein crypto legal hogi tu kitna tax lagay ga, 10% ya 30% ya kuch aur. But abi ramazan aa raaha hay aur hum sab logon ki yeh responsibility hay k humaray pass jitni bhi crypto hay ( Exchanges p, decentralized wallets p, staking p, hardware wallets p) aun sab ko calculate kerain aur ais p 2.5% zakat ada kereian. Aur han there are may zakat calclaulars available online and you can use any of them for your help. Aik example of calculator  is https://www.tcf.org.pk/zakat/zakat-calculator/.

Thanks Umer Bhai for sharing Zakat calculator. Mere khayl mein aisi Real estate property ( Plot, House or shop ) jo k apki investment ha or ap usko future mein sell kerna chahty han us pe zakat uski market value k hisab se 2.5% zakat pay kena hoti ha mgr mein 100% sure nhi houn ku k es k bary clarity nhi ha . Apka es bary mein kia khayal  ha?

Thank you Umer bro for sharing and reminding us about zakat.

Yes Sayed bhai mera point of view bhi same he hai regarding crypto currencies or bitcoin one can ask "does bitcoin have intrinsic value?" the short and simper answer will be NO. So how you calculate zakat on something what does not have a intrinsic value?

Well this has been in discussion among many Muslims and scholars still unable to give any "fatwa" regarding Bitcoin/Crypto currencies. Since there is no clear fatwa or any Islamic scholar of any faith now it's upto you what you decide for yourself and this matter will be between you and Allah. and may Allah forgive us for any wrong doing we did knowingly or unknowingly. Aaameen

As a precautionary I will suggest at least give zakat based on your original investment.

Yaha par kuch sathio ne Zakaat k baare ma kuch masle bian kiye. Umar idrees sahib ne bhot acha jawab diya. Yaha par ma aona knowledge b Share krna chahta ho.

Zakaat k baare ma bunyadi bath ye k ha

zakaat kis par wajib ha


Har muslman,Aaqil,Baligh jb us k pas utna paisa aa jae jo zakaat ki nissab ko pohnch jae aur saal guzar jae.
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Note: Saal guzarne ka matlb ye nhe k usi maal par saal guzar jae balke matlb ye saal guzarne k bad usi tareekh ko dikha jaega k ap k pas nisaab pora ha ya nhe
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Thank you MFahad brother for such detailed explaination.

Regarding the year term ap bilkul sahi zakat foran wajib ho jati hai jese he saal pora ho.  hamaray han jo concept hia ramzan main he zakat dene ka ye sirf hamari sahulat k liye tak ham easily hisab rakh sakain apne properties aur zakat ka maksaq Allah k diye hoey maal main se ghareeb aur haqdaaq ko daina ab agar ham ye time pe dein tu pora sal kisi na kisi ghareeb ko uska haq milta rahay ga... magar kion k poray Pakistan main zakat sirf ramdan main nikali jati tu tu aik kisam se ye saray saal ka silsila simat kar ramdan main aa jata hia .


regarding property Ma Sha Allah very happy to see we all are aware. I will just add anything under you daily use "jo bhi zeristemal chezin hain" us pe zakat wajib nahi. This includes even gold. For example ap k pass kuch gold hai aur ap daily wear karti hian jese chorian, locket, bracelet any thing, us pe bhi zakat wajib nahi beshak wo nisab se zaida ho. Likan kion k ye bahoot he bahoot he sensitive issue hai aur ham Pakistani ka gold hamisha he investment ki niyat se hota hai tu zahir hia hamin zakat deni paray gi. aur wese bhi hamari aurtain gold ko sambhal sambhal k rakhin thin tu wo kisi sorat daily wear main count nahi ho sakta.

Same applies to your property, apka ghar apki gari waghaira us pe zakat nahi wajib nahi

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Well, Big news. This news made btc able to break resistance market sentiments are Bullish.
In the coming days Ela selva, 1 Billion BTC bonds will be Sold very soon a date was extended i think so, whenever this news will be in-market the market can take an upto 20% upward movement may be.
 

yes dear it is a positive news you can say but I don't this news is the reason but this pump. Because Malaysia is a very small market I don't think their market can effect the price of bitcoin/crypto currencies internationally.

[yawars20]

عورت
جب پردہ کرتی ہے تو وہ حقیقتاً
 ایک سو ستر بلین ڈالر کی فیشن
                       انڈسٹری پر لعنت بھیجتی ہے-

Sorry out of topic hun ...
Par bt achi lagi to share ki...

Mashallah Kya khob Kaha

[yawars20]

Nice going for $BTC as the Bullish is full control. Stay tune for more Updates.



Source: https://twitter.com/CryptoFaibik/status/1506126279027961856

[UmerIdrees]

Yes Sayed bhai mera point of view bhi same he hai regarding crypto currencies or bitcoin one can ask "does bitcoin have intrinsic value?" the short and simper answer will be NO. So how you calculate zakat on something what does not have a intrinsic value?

Well this has been in discussion among many Muslims and scholars still unable to give any "fatwa" regarding Bitcoin/Crypto currencies. Since there is no clear fatwa or any Islamic scholar of any faith now it's upto you what you decide for yourself and this matter will be between you and Allah. and may Allah forgive us for any wrong doing we did knowingly or unknowingly. Aaameen

As a precautionary I will suggest at least give zakat based on your original investment.

I am totally failed to understand what do you mean by intrinsic value and how can you say k we don't give zakat on crypto or give zakat based on original investment? Same goes for dollar. Agar dollar app kay pass Rs 100 ka hay tu u will not calculate Rs 100 in 2022. You will calculate it as Rs180

App nay gold 20 years phelay buy kia hay tu app 20 year old wali price  ni lein gay bilkay current price lein gay.
App nay agar plot / house selling kay liey is hay tu purchase price ni lein gay, current price calculate kr k zakat dein gay.
Similiary agar app nay  bitcoins 20,000$ kay buy kiey hein 2017 mein tu 2022 mein jo rate hay 40,000$ kay hisab c calculate hoga.
Mutlab kay agar app 1st ramazan ko calculate kertay hein tu 1st ramadan ko Rupees, bitcoin, crypto, dollar, plot, gold aur silver ki jo bhi value hogi, aus kay mutabiq zakat bunay gii.

regarding property Ma Sha Allah very happy to see we all are aware. I will just add anything under you daily use "jo bhi zeristemal chezin hain" us pe zakat wajib nahi. This includes even gold. For example ap k pass kuch gold hai aur ap daily wear karti hian jese chorian, locket, bracelet any thing, us pe bhi zakat wajib nahi beshak wo nisab se zaida ho. Likan kion k ye bahoot he bahoot he sensitive issue hai aur ham Pakistani ka gold hamisha he investment ki niyat se hota hai tu zahir hia hamin zakat deni paray gi. aur wese bhi hamari aurtain gold ko sambhal sambhal k rakhin thin tu wo kisi sorat daily wear main count nahi ho sakta.

There is a difference of opinion here but I think Gold chayee use mein ho ya na hho, aus p zakat deni perthi hay, bilkay dena chayee.

“A woman came to the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) accompanied by her daughter, who wore two heavy gold bangles. He said to her, “Do you pay Zakah on them?” She said, ‘No.’ He then said, “Are you pleased that Allah may put two bangles of fire on your wrist on the Day of Judgment?” She then threw them away. (An-Nasa’i)

[shahzadafzal]

I am totally failed to understand what do you mean by intrinsic value and how can you say k we don't give zakat on crypto or give zakat based on original investment? Same goes for dollar. Agar dollar app kay pass Rs 100 ka hay tu u will not calculate Rs 100 in 2022. You will calculate it as Rs180

App nay gold 20 years phelay buy kia hay tu app 20 year old wali price  ni lein gay bilkay current price lein gay.
App nay agar plot / house selling kay liey is hay tu purchase price ni lein gay, current price calculate kr k zakat dein gay.
Similiary agar app nay  bitcoins 20,000$ kay buy kiey hein 2017 mein tu 2022 mein jo rate hay 40,000$ kay hisab c calculate hoga.
Mutlab kay agar app 1st ramazan ko calculate kertay hein tu 1st ramadan ko bitcoin, crypto, dollar, plot, gold aur silver ki jo bhi value hogi, aus kay mutabiq zakat bunay gii.

Well i didn't say you don't have to give zakat on crypto. I said how you will calculate zakat on this? For example we pay Zakat on agricultural goods, precious metals, minerals, and livestock at a rate varying between her aik pe kitni zakat hia alag se clearly defined hia Islam main and it is depending on the type of goods. How will you decide for bitcoin?  That's what intrinsic value means. I hope you got the point.

You must have heard 1btc=1btc calculating bitcoin in $ is illogical from crypto point of view also.

That's also the main reason you will not find any fatwa from a known scholar regarding bitcoin.

Yes we can simplify and calculate based on Gold if you have btc equal to 85gram of gold equal to dollars. Another question will be will you deduct the fees? since we don't have this asset in $ and again we will pay zakat in our local currency. Right.

I mean I don't want to argue but again this is between you and Allah and you can decide what you feel best.

There is a difference of opinion here but I think Gold chayee use mein ho ya na hho, aus p zakat deni perthi hay, bilkay dena chayee.

“A woman came to the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) accompanied by her daughter, who wore two heavy gold bangles. He said to her, “Do you pay Zakah on them?” She said, ‘No.’ He then said, “Are you pleased that Allah may put two bangles of fire on your wrist on the Day of Judgment?” She then threw them away. (An-Nasa’i)

Yes there's difference of opinion, "The Hanafis are of the view that it is obligatory to pay zakaah on it, but the majority of Maalikis, Shaafa’is and Hanbalis are of the view that it is not obligatory to pay zakaah on it." Since in Pakistan mostly we are hanfi that what we follow. But in Arab world including Saudi Arabia and many Africans countries it's not obligatory to give zakat on the jewelry woman using for herself.

Some scholars said that there was no zakaah to be paid on it, because by using it in a permissible manner, it becomes like clothing and other items, and is not like a product that has a commercial value. They responded to the general meaning of the aayah [al-Tawbah 9:34] by pointing out that the practice of the Sahaabah excluded gold that was used for adornment. It was reported with a saheeh isnaad that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) used to look after her brother’s orphaned daughters in her apartment. They had gold jewellery but she did not pay zakaah on it. Al-Daaraqutni narrated with his isnaad from Asmaa’ bint Abi Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with her) that she used to adorn her daughters with gold jewellery, and she did not pay zakaah on it, (although its value was) nearly fifty thousand. (Sunan al-Daaraqutni, 2/109)

Now if we are following Hanifs we will pay zakat but like you said difference of opinion is there among the scholars and Allah knows the best.

[UmerIdrees]

Well i didn't say you don't have to give zakat on crypto. I said how you will calculate zakat on this? For example we pay Zakat on agricultural goods, precious metals, minerals, and livestock at a rate varying between her aik pe kitni zakat hia alag se clearly defined hia Islam main and it is depending on the type of goods. How will you decide for bitcoin?  That's what intrinsic value means. I hope you got the point.

You must have heard 1btc=1btc calculating bitcoin in $ is illogical from crypto point of view also.

That's also the main reason you will not find any fatwa from a known scholar regarding bitcoin.

Yes we can simplify and calculate based on Gold if you have btc equal to 85gram of gold equal to dollars. Another question will be will you deduct the fees? since we don't have this asset in $ and again we will pay zakat in our local currency. Right.

I mean I don't want to argue but again this is between you and Allah and you can decide what you feel best.

First of all, we need to know that Crypto is just another form of currency, that's why we say cryptocurrecny. It is not gold, not a precious metal, not livestock etc, it is only new form of money.

Now first take the example of fiat money. You have Rs and Dollars. Now its up to you that you convert rs into dollars  and pay zakat in dollars or convert dollars into rs and pay zakat in rs. OR you can calculate dollars holdings and pay zakat in dollar separately, while calculate rs holdings and pay zakat in rs separately.

Now, if you do not want to convert bitcoin into dollars, because 1 btc is 1 btc then if you have 1 btc, you can detect 0.25% of the amount from your btc and crypto holding and pay that amount as a zakat.  So now we don't need to convert. Also, same should be done with USDT and other coins also.

Finally, isn't it strange that when you need to send money to someone in crypto or buy anything online in crypto, you calculate it in dollars and then send the particular amount in bitcoins.  but when it comes to calculation for zakat we make excuses of 1 btc = 1 btc .

[shahzadafzal]

First of all, we need to know that Crypto is just another form of currency, that's why we say cryptocurrecny. It is not gold, not a precious metal, not livestock etc, it is only new form of money.

Now first take the example of fiat money. You have Rs and Dollars. Now its up to you that you convert rs into dollars  and pay zakat in dollars or convert dollars into rs and pay zakat in rs. OR you can calculate dollars holdings and pay zakat in dollar separately, while calculate rs holdings and pay zakat in rs separately.

Now, if you do not want to convert bitcoin into dollars, because 1 btc is 1 btc then if you have 1 btc, you can detect 0.25% of the amount from your btc and crypto holding and pay that amount as a zakat.  So now we don't need to convert. Also, same should be done with USDT and other coins also.

Finally, isn't it strange that when you need to send money to someone in crypto or buy anything online in crypto, you calculate it in dollars and then send the particular amount in bitcoins.  but when it comes to calculation for zakat we make excuses of 1 btc = 1 btc .

agree my dear it's not an excuses, didn't I repeat it's up to you.

What scenario you have given it's your point of view isn't it? Or are you giving fatwa? or are you quoting any Islamic scholar?

again yes you will calculate zakat on your "crypto assets" since those are your investments and you have plans to sale it but how you will calculate its up to you.

Now If I ask let suppose I own an NFT a tweet from jack, I own it no plan to sale it, is zakat due on this? and how much?

Remember

If you hold an asset that is non-sharia-compliant – then zakat would not be due on that in any case as it would be deemed a haram asset.

[Cosmic Beyonders]

jese k India na 30% tax lagaya hai crypto per. To is trhan agar Pakistan 5-10% b tax lagata hai to is se kafi revenue jama ho sakta hai.

Yeh tab dekha jiey ga jab pakistan mein crypto legal hogi tu kitna tax lagay ga, 10% ya 30% ya kuch aur. But abi ramazan aa raaha hay aur hum sab logon ki yeh responsibility hay k humaray pass jitni bhi crypto hay ( Exchanges p, decentralized wallets p, staking p, hardware wallets p) aun sab ko calculate kerain aur ais p 2.5% zakat ada kereian. Aur han there are may zakat calclaulars available online and you can use any of them for your help. Aik example of calculator  is https://www.tcf.org.pk/zakat/zakat-calculator/.

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[og kush420]

# I Stand with Imran Khan.  Do you?

Why Everyone posts here a big banner? isn't there any way to crop it a bit so that it is seen and read properly without scrolling.
IK is in trouble though - His last statement was not liked by Armed Forces. But I still support IK.
Happy Pakistan Day to every Pakistani - hope you are celebrating today!

[kaka_Shipai]

Recently a news was flashed and that is that RikoDik deal has been signed again. This time, its 50/50 partnership in profit. 50% will go to Pak and 50% will go to the mining company.
Is it fair ? i thought that giving 50% of gold is too much. Its like giving trillions of dollar to the company. A whole country is just getting 50% and a company is given 50%. Though we got trapped as there was a big penalty but still then there were some good options that they could had opted.

1. a deal, where the company could get 50% profit in the first 2,3 or may be 5 years to cover their loss of 11 billion and after those 5 years , the deal should had been 80/20 in Pakistan favor.

2. a deal with another company to pay the 11 billion dollars on spot and then they would be allowed to take profit for like 5 years so as cover the 11 billion and some profit on it and then after that all the profit could be shared 80/20 or 90/10

3. shud had paid the 11 billions directly from some friend and could had paid to that country in installments though the mining of that gold in some years.

But giving them 50% share is too much. its really is too much if you know that this could be the largest gold and copper mine in the world. I sometimes feel angry on the politicians and bureaucrats who trapped Pakistan in this deal in the first place in 2005 i think.  

[Theones]

عورت
جب پردہ کرتی ہے تو وہ حقیقتاً
 ایک سو ستر بلین ڈالر کی فیشن
                       انڈسٹری پر لعنت بھیجتی ہے-

Sorry out of topic hun ...
Par bt achi lagi to share ki...

Mashallah Kya khob Kaha

You are wrong. The abbaaya and the scarf and other accessories are more expensive than normal stuff women purchase. The industry is thriving and you have no idea how much money they are earning. Let's not be judgmental and live and let live. At the end everyone will lie in their own grave and will give hisab of their own Amal. Save time and save yourself from unnecessary judgements.  

[NoorulHuda]

agree my dear it's not an excuses, didn't I repeat it's up to you.

What scenario you have given it's your point of view isn't it? Or are you giving fatwa? or are you quoting any Islamic scholar?

again yes you will calculate zakat on your "crypto assets" since those are your investments and you have plans to sale it but how you will calculate its up to you.

Now If I ask let suppose I own an NFT a tweet from jack, I own it no plan to sale it, is zakat due on this? and how much?

Remember

If you hold an asset that is non-sharia-compliant – then zakat would not be due on that in any case as it would be deemed a haram asset.

Ya Allah...
Yahan to sary hi mufti hen...
Ab ajiz kuch khti h... Agar to kissi ko psand aye to maan ly... Nai to b uss ki marzi...

Just go for first?
What do you think ?
What is Zakat?
Is ka maqsad kaya h??
Asal m islam iss chz ko hm par lagu q? Karta h??
Smj to ap sab hi gye hn gy..

But let me explain... Agar smja pai to??
Zakat kaa asal maqsad Logon m brabri k huquq peda karna h...
Asal m y btana h k kissi ameer ko ghareeb par foqyat nai...
Issi liye ameer ko apny maal m s kuch hissa Allah ki rah m dene k liye kaha gaya... Allah ki rah m ... Ab Allah ko zrurat to h nai... Kaya mtlab is kaa... Is kaa mtlab h uss k bandon ko do...
Ab thora aagy chalen... Sab s phly kaha Fuqra o Masakeen m apny rishty daron m zakat do... Islam ki chashni dekhen... Q? Kaha gaya k phly apny rishty daron ko den... Sirf iss liye k brabri ho... Ameer khud chal k uss k ghar jaa k uss ko zakat dy... Iss liye k agar sara khandan uss s narfat karta h uss ki ghareebi ki waja s to sab ameer us k ghar jaen... Ta k koi faraq naa reh jaye... Iss bt karny ka maqsad nichy btaya h...

Ab zara Musarfi-ne- Zakat par ik nazar...



Agar ap log sab kahen gy k in 8 logon ki details b den to wo b dy skti hun... Par abhi post thori lambi ho jaye gi...

Acha akhir par asal muddy ki traf aun...

Behas y chal rahi h... K kaya crypto par Zakat lagu hoti h k nai?
G to iss par abhi koi fatwa Pakistan m mojud nai... Uss ki waja sirf y h k Pakistan m abhi crypto illegal hi mani jati h...

Hm n sirf apna mind bnaya huwa h k crypto agar wese dekha jaye to haram nai h... Baqi fatwa koi mojud nai...

Ab asal bt... Upar jo m n bt ki uss kaa mqsad kaya h...
Ab agar Allah pak hmen koi thori c earning ka zarya dy raha h to q? Naa uss m s kuch hissa nikal k ghurba m diya jaye...
Q? K asal maqsad to brabri dena h... Or muflsi khatm karna h... Zruri nai k Zakat ki niyyat ho... Khuda tarsi s b d jaa skti h... Ap wese hi 2.5% nikalen or uss ko kherat kar den...
Allah ki rah m hi gaya h naa... Allah qubul kar ly gaa...
Allah or barkat b daal dy gaa...
Ap Zakat k asal maqsad ko dekhty huwe uss ko pura kar den... Or asal maqsad m bayan kar chuki...

Or ik zruri bt..
Jitna behas karen gy... Shetan utna uljhaye gaa... Iss liye bachen...

Bhtr yhi h k kherat kar den... Allah ap sab ko jaza dy..

Koshish to puri ki jo dill m tha kaha... Ab pata nai sai s smja ski hun k nai...

Kaha suna muaf ki jiye ga..

[Sayeds56]

Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Muhammad Bin Salman to be Chief Guest on Pakistan Day Parade 2022. Foreign Ministers of OIC countries to also participate. Parade will be largest ever held, as this year Pakistan completes 75 years of Independence




https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistan-day-parade-2022.733778/#:~:text=%20Jan%2022%2C%202022.%20%231.%20Unconfirm%20news.%20Crown,this%20year%20Pakistan%20completes%2075%20years%20of%20Independence.?msclkid=0b1ee6dfaa5311ecbdf47902be7bda7f

[shahzadafzal]

Happy Pakistan Day to everyone

Salam to everyone sab se pehle tu koi personal nahi ham sab aik dosray ki respect karte hian aur sab ka apna political aur Islamic apna point of view ho sakta hai jis ki ham sab respect karin ge. I'm very open to almost any discussion aur mere tu yehi nazriya hia discussion karni chahiye bus ahtraam k daairay main reh kar. Aur aik baat zehn main rakhin jab ap internet pe apna koi point of view dein get u sawal he paida nahi hota uska counter point nah aaey tu us k liey apna dil open rakhin agaly ki baat sunlain aur zahir hai karin wohi jo apka acha lagta hai.

Why Everyone posts here a big banner? isn't there any way to crop it a bit so that it is seen and read properly without scrolling.
IK is in trouble though - His last statement was not liked by Armed Forces. But I still support IK.
Happy Pakistan Day to every Pakistani - hope you are celebrating today!

Ye bro ye masla hai hamaray thread ka but koi nahi new new hian na bahoot saray tu sekhne main time laga ga.

Happy Day to you too.

But giving them 50% share is too much. its really is too much if you know that this could be the largest gold and copper mine in the world. I sometimes feel angry on the politicians and bureaucrats who trapped Pakistan in this deal in the first place in 2005 i think. 

Yehi tu masla hia yar... ab dekhin na dunia Africa Gold and Diamond ka bahoot bara producer but unfortunately is ka unhin kitna faida hota hia ye ye aate main nimak k braber hai. Bilkul kahin Musharaf k zamane bat chal rahi hia  Reko diq nah hogia masla Kashmir hogia anyway ye aik misal nahi hamari tareekh Ma Sha Allah aise mansoobon se bhari pari hia... Kalabagh Dam Noor ne point out kia tha wo bhi isi ki nazar hogia hia.

You are wrong. The abbaaya and the scarf and other accessories are more expensive than normal stuff women purchase. The industry is thriving and you have no idea how much money they are earning. Let's not be judgmental and live and let live. At the end everyone will lie in their own grave and will give hisab of their own Amal. Save time and save yourself from unnecessary judgements. 

"baat tu ap ki bhi thaik hai"!!!!... actually i don't think Noor ka ya jiss ne bhi ye statement di hai us ka reality main fashion industry pe laanat bhaijane ka koi irada, balke simple words main parday ki khobsorati ko ujagar karna hia. We have seen India main aurton ko kese scraf or prday ki waja se dabaya ja raha hia. agar mazee simple alfaaz main kahin tu kia ham ye keh sakte hian "jab aurat parda karti hai tu wo fashion industry pe lanat bhaijati hia".... bus bech main se 170 billion nikal dia hia

Jitna behas karen gy... Shetan utna uljhaye gaa... Iss liye bachen...

Bhtr yhi h k kherat kar den... Allah ap sab ko jaza dy..

Koshish to puri ki jo dill m tha kaha... Ab pata nai sai s smja ski hun k nai...

Kaha suna muaf ki jiye ga..

Noor Ma Sha Allah ap ne acha explain kia aur beshak zakat ka maksaq he yehi hia agar ham musalmaan iman daari se zakat daina tu Pakistan main zakat laine wala nah rahay. Sirf Karachi ki zakat ini hogi ham ye tax or saud walay chakar main nah parna paray.

Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Muhammad Bin Salman to be Chief Guest on Pakistan Day Parade 2022. Foreign Ministers of OIC countries to also participate. Parade will be largest ever held, as this year Pakistan completes 75 years of Independence

Yes Sayed bhai this year's celebration is already one of the biggest since OIC Members and most of them will likely attend the ceremony.

[UmerIdrees]

agree my dear it's not an excuses, didn't I repeat it's up to you.
What scenario you have given it's your point of view isn't it? Or are you giving fatwa? or are you quoting any Islamic scholar?

I don't have any fatwa or quotes by scholars but sometimes things are very clear aur han whatever I told above is my opinion. I have converted all my wealth and savings in crypto as i don't believe or trust in fiat anymore and I don't feel comfortable that i keep waiting for the fatwas  

again yes you will calculate zakat on your "crypto assets" since those are your investments and you have plans to sale it but how you will calculate its up to you.

All the coins (Bitcoins, ethereum, ada, dot, etc) are currencies and not assets. So even if you have no plan of selling them, the zakat is still valid on them if it reaches the zakat amount. And also if you say how to calculate is up to us, this may lead to under calculation as per human nature.

Now If I ask let suppose I own an NFT a tweet from jack, I own it no plan to sale it, is zakat due on this? and how much?

NFT is not a currency, it can be called a crypto asset and it will be treated like other assets. If you have no plan to sell NFT, then there is no zakat on it but if you bought NFT to sell it at a higher price, then you should give zakat on its base price (buying price) if one year has passed on it. In this case, NFT is your Maal-E-Tejarat.

If you hold an asset that is non-sharia-compliant – then zakat would not be due on that in any case as it would be deemed a haram asset.

Here, which assets you are referring to be Haram? NFTs are not haram by the way.

Zruri nai k Zakat ki niyyat ho... Khuda tarsi s b d jaa skti h... Ap wese hi 2.5% nikalen or uss ko kherat kar den...

Bhtr yhi h k kherat kar den... Allah ap sab ko jaza dy..

Ap jitni marzi nafal namazien perth lein, agar farz namaz ni perthi tu aus ka poocha jeiy ga.


Zakat kay liey Zakat ki niyat hona zaroori hay. Zakat aik farz ibadat hay , agar app nay kherat ki niyat c madad ki, tu woh kheriat ka swab tu mil joeiy ga, zakat rah jeiy gi.  

[NoorulHuda]

You are wrong. The abbaaya and the scarf and other accessories are more expensive than normal stuff women purchase. The industry is thriving and you have no idea how much money they are earning. Let's not be judgmental and live and let live. At the end everyone will lie in their own grave and will give hisab of their own Amal. Save time and save yourself from unnecessary judgements.  

How could you say that is expensive?
If you buy one abaya or scarf...
So it can be used for five to six years easily...
It is not expensive...

And we know what we are?
Or y b janti hen k kese ayyash mardon ki gandi nazron s bachna h...
Or rahi bt other stuff ki to wo b uss ko kabhi kabhi zrurat parti h.. agar wo waqe hu baa haya larki h to... Or I know better then you k what is expensive or what is not?

Here are the two more silent messages...

"baat tu ap ki bhi thaik hai"!!!!... actually i don't think Noor ka ya jiss ne bhi ye statement di hai us ka reality main fashion industry pe laanat bhaijane ka koi irada, balke simple words main parday ki khobsorati ko ujagar karna hia. We have seen India main aurton ko kese scraf or prday ki waja se dabaya ja raha hia. agar mazee simple alfaaz main kahin tu kia ham ye keh sakte hian "jab aurat parda karti hai tu wo fashion industry pe lanat bhaijati hia".... bus bech main se 170 billion nikal dia hia

Nai nai ap thora jaldi fesla kar gye...
M n waqe hi sai bt ki h...
Agar orat baa haya h...
To wo other stuff b uss hisab s hi khareedy gi...
Or fashion industry jin chizon ki zyada numaish karti h... Ap sb khub janty hen... To lanat to parti h... Un k stuff par b un k pese par b...

Ap jitni marzi nafal namazien perth lein, agar farz namaz ni perthi tu aus ka poocha jeiy ga.


Zakat kay liey Zakat ki niyat hona zaroori hay. Zakat aik farz ibadat hay , agar app nay kherat ki niyat c madad ki, tu woh kheriat ka swab tu mil joeiy ga, zakat rah jeiy gi.  

M n yhi bt ki h k kherat hi hogi...
Niyyat Zakat ki hogi to Allah ki rehmat par kiss kaa zor h kaya pata wo Zakat kaa hi swab dy dy...
Ap shayad muamly hi hassasyat ko nai smj rahy...

Asal m hm abhi issi kash mkash s nai nikly k crypto b halal h k haram... Agar 10 Ulma khty hen k Halal h to 20 Haram b khty hen...
Or baqaida fatwa nai mojud kissi b darulifta kaa... Agar h to plz share ki jiye gaa mjy nai mila abhi tak...
Issi waja s is par abhi zakat nai nikly gi...
Sirf issi liye kaha k zakat ki niyyatbs diya jaye to kaya pata Allah swab b dy dy nai to kherat kaa swab to mily gaa hi naa...

Shahzad bhai issi par to zor daal rahy hen k crypto assets par koi fatwa nai h... Issi liye iss par zakat nai hogi... Am I right Shahzadafzal?


Or meri traf s b Sab Ko Pakistan Resolution Day Mubarak ho.

[UmerIdrees]

Asal m hm abhi issi kash mkash s nai nikly k crypto b halal h k haram... Agar 10 Ulma khty hen k Halal h to 20 Haram b khty hen...
Or baqaida fatwa nai mojud kissi b darulifta kaa... Agar h to plz share ki jiye gaa mjy nai mila abhi tak...
Issi waja s is par abhi zakat nai nikly gi...
Sirf issi liye kaha k zakat ki niyyatbs diya jaye to kaya pata Allah swab b dy dy nai to kherat kaa swab to mily gaa hi naa...

Shahzad bhai issi par to zor daal rahy hen k crypto assets par koi fatwa nai h... Issi liye iss par zakat nai hogi... Am I right Shahzadafzal?

Pata ni hum apnay app ko dhokkha day rahay hein ya kis ko dhokaa day rahaey hein ?

Agar crypto halal hi ni hay tu phir tu hum sab haram aktha kr rahay hein. Let's leave crypto and wait until koi Ulma sahi fatwa day phelay.

Lekin ni, hum crypto ko legal sumjhee hein, halal sumjhtee hein ais leiy we keep on accumulating and working on crypto. (by the way crypoto halal hay) but zakat denay kay time we say k fatwaa ni hay tu zakat kion deein ya zakat ni hogi.  Ajeeb sooch hay humarai.

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Sorry out of topic hun ...
Par bt achi lagi to share ki...

Aik aurat jab parda kerti hay tu woh society ko choor k apnay Allah ko razi kerti hay aur ais c achi koi baat ni.

[Cosmic Beyonders]

Another Big news market is still red

[NoorulHuda]

Lekin ni, hum crypto ko legal sumjhee hein, halal sumjhtee hein ais leiy we keep on accumulating and working on crypto. (by the way crypoto halal hay) but zakat denay kay time we say k fatwaa ni hay tu zakat kion deein ya zakat ni hogi.  Ajeeb sooch hay humarai.

خود اپنے جال میں صیاد آگیا
Yhi to m kh rahi hun k agar ap crypto ko halal smjty hen to niyyat ki Zakat ki kar k Zakat dy den... Jese crypto ko halal farz kiya huwa h esy hi Zakat ko b farz karna parry ga... Jesi ap ki bunyad ho wesa hi agy b sochen...

Jab crypto ka fatwa aye to zakat ka b fatwa aye ga...
Or m n roka nai h... Zakat nikalny s jo ap kh rahy hen k crypto ko halal nai smjty or zakat par fatwa mang rahy hen...


Hall y h apny sary assets ko sell karen... Paper money m laen or phr zakat nikalen...
Or esa mumkin nai h to phr jnb niyyat hi karni parry gi...
Par hissa zrur nikalen rok koi nai raha... Ap ko lagta h k ap nisab par pura utrty hen to lazmi zakat nikalen...

Or ik Akhri bt jo k zruri h..
Islam niyyat ka phal zrur deta h..
Jese agar ap n kissi neki ki niyyat ki h to ap ko swab phly hi mil jata h... Details m nai jati... Smj to gye hn gy...