[POR]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread

[Krakatoa87]

Hello, I have 2 important questions that should concern every ETN miners and users, and I hope I will have answers!

1/ Where the hell are more than half of the network hashrate? If it's in only one place, it should be a big concern for everybody (especially regarding question 2).

2/ How is it possible that some blocks appears to be mined many minutes before other blocks that have a lower high.

For example: block 124870 https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/block/b8869738a22d0dc1c7ec0dfbf70ba3e2e08fc0fe9b952d98f851549fc1564012 was mined 40 minutes before block 124869 https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/block/e5cac39f32ac6178addc758af4e0250dec28d674251f1925d7af4f3bbd3fcba5 which should not be possible. In fact, it appears that block 124870 was mined directly after block 124840 https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/block/b480c6221526c210510b076124bde7463a743b5a2356666db03e48cc68cc91eb
This phenomenon has been occurring several times a day for the past few days.

It's very worrying.

[Marco241]

With regards to listing on more exchanges,  it is important to understand that some are at breaking point.  For example, and this may have changed now, Bittrex were not accepting new customers.  As an exchange would you want to take another coin that might tip your service over the edge.  These exchanges are creaming it at the moment why take on another coin while you cannot support the coins you already have.  Bittrex traded .76 Billion dollars in that last 24 hours to put things into perspective! We just have to be patient!

Indeed. I'm pretty sure Bittrex is working hard to update there servers to be able to welcome new customers asap.
I would realy be happy to see ETN on Bittrex since it's my favorite exchange. But this is up to Bittrex, the ETN-team can't do anything more than we do: just be patient and wait.

[xzentorxz]

Hello, I have 2 important questions that should concern every ETN miners and users, and I hope I will have answers!

1/ Where the hell are more than half of the network hashrate? If it's in only one place, it should be a big concern for everybody (especially regarding question 2).

2/ How is it possible that some blocks appears to be mined many minutes before other blocks that have a lower high.

For example: block 124870 https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/block/b8869738a22d0dc1c7ec0dfbf70ba3e2e08fc0fe9b952d98f851549fc1564012 was mined 40 minutes before block 124869 https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/block/e5cac39f32ac6178addc758af4e0250dec28d674251f1925d7af4f3bbd3fcba5 which should not be possible. In fact, it appears that block 124870 was mined directly after block 124840 https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/block/b480c6221526c210510b076124bde7463a743b5a2356666db03e48cc68cc91eb
This phenomenon has been occurring several times a day for the past few days.

It's very worrying.

1/ https://etn.nanopool.org/ + https://etn.spacepools.org/ > 50%

2/ A block can only be added at the end of the blockchain, so they are always mined in order, that means the dates are simply wrong. A blockchain has no time consensus, so the dates dont need to be accurate, the only "time consensus" a blockchain has is the heigt. Thats why updates will be released at a block height X and not at a time X. Im not sure how they measure the timestamp on a transaction but i asume the miner just puts his server timestamp in, which dont has to be accurate at all.

I assume you thinking about 51% attacks. With those attacks you can replace the block by mining with more then 50% hashrate, but you keep them secret. So you wouldnt see the increased difficulty anyway ,because the solved blocks would not be released to the global blockchain. After time X you will always have the longer blockchain (because you solved more blocks) wich is accepted by the global blockchain, so you would just suddenly see the end of the blockchain removed and replaced with something else. But even these added blocks will be in chronological order.

So lets say a big company which owns a lot of hashing power makes a deal with nanopool (or they get hacked by the company). You would first see a huge decrease in difficulty, because nanopool would be not releasing their blocks, but they could keep the miners in the dark about it, give them all the money they want, because its gona be reversed anyway. Then they make their scam deals and release the longer blockchain, which would be accepted globaly. Not to easy but since their is a lot of centralization with ETN mining (most of it because of lack of knowlege) it is not impossible. In the beginning of ETN mining one pool even had 97% of the hashing power.

TL;DR The timestamp is not reliable, only the block height is and its impossible to add blocks inbetween

[coin-investor]

I wonder why the official thread is still locked, it is linked to the coinmarketcap page, this is a mining discussions I hope they openned it because it is the official thread and we are doing great right now its the right time to open the thread.

[dndssc]

Etn @ #28 of coin rank and #41 of coin+token rank on coinmarketcap, 325mh/s of total hash 

[Highspeed123]

I wonder why the official thread is still locked, it is linked to the coinmarketcap page, this is a mining discussions I hope they openned it because it is the official thread and we are doing great right now its the right time to open the thread.

This is the official thread now, they stopped using the old one so that the community manager could moderate the FUD. It was getting out of hand.

[qiwoman2]

I have around 5k ELECTRONEUM and want to ask can I mine it on my desktop and laptop right now and when will I be able to mine it on my phone? I m really interested in collecting more ELECTRONEUM by mining it. I have heard some really great stuff about it and what it will help to in in developing nations to free people from poverty. Even my Dad wants to mine it as well and he is nearly 80 years of age lol.

[XmasJohn08]

I have around 5k ELECTRONEUM and want to ask can I mine it on my desktop and laptop right now and when will I be able to mine it on my phone? I m really interested in collecting more ELECTRONEUM by mining it. I have heard some really great stuff about it and what it will help to in in developing nations to free people from poverty. Even my Dad wants to mine it as well and he is nearly 80 years of age lol.

Don't even try to mine via laptop, don't ask me why, just DON'T DO IT

[simonetti]

I have around 5k ELECTRONEUM and want to ask can I mine it on my desktop and laptop right now and when will I be able to mine it on my phone? I m really interested in collecting more ELECTRONEUM by mining it. I have heard some really great stuff about it and what it will help to in in developing nations to free people from poverty. Even my Dad wants to mine it as well and he is nearly 80 years of age lol.

At about 2400 hashes per second, you would get about 250 us dollars of etn per month, at current difficulty and prices.

An average laptop does about 50 hashes at best, do the math.

[Digital Drug Lord]

I wonder why the official thread is still locked, it is linked to the coinmarketcap page, this is a mining discussions I hope they openned it because it is the official thread and we are doing great right now its the right time to open the thread.

This is the official thread now, they stopped using the old one so that the community manager could moderate the FUD. It was getting out of hand.

So how could anyone do a buyer beware if you guys are robbing people?

A self moderated thread is an echo chamber of shills who could be promoting for and leading people into a scam

For example I have a question, does the mobile miner really mine or is it just make believe?

[callkiller]

For example I have a question, does the mobile miner really mine or is it just make believe?

Its just a mining simulation app, so it doesn't really mine. You gain coins for using the app

[Digital Drug Lord]

For example I have a question, does the mobile miner really mine or is it just make believe?

Its just a mining simulation app, so it doesn't really mine. You gain coins for using the app

So it's a make believe app then.vaporware.

Now I have another question

Was this sold to investors as an ico with the idea of a working mobile Miner?
Did etn market this coin as a mobile miner?


I see they lied on the white paper and caught

https://electroneum.com/2017/10/24/how-much-can-i-earn-as-a-mobile-miner/




Was this coin marketed promoted and sold to investors as a mobile miner? Wasn't that what this coin was supposed to be?

[MrDarkElf]

I think that Electronium will have good future. Which price per coin was on the ICO stage? Cryptocurrency oriented to mobile devices should have success, because number of users of moble devices is great.

[callkiller]

For example I have a question, does the mobile miner really mine or is it just make believe?

Its just a mining simulation app, so it doesn't really mine. You gain coins for using the app

So it's a make believe app then.vaporware.

Now I have another question

Was this sold to investors as an ico with the idea of a working mobile Miner?
Did etn market this coin as a mobile miner?


I see they lied on the white paper and caught

https://electroneum.com/2017/10/24/how-much-can-i-earn-as-a-mobile-miner/




Was this coin marketed promoted and sold to investors as a mobile miner? Wasn't that what this coin was supposed to be?

No

[xzentorxz]

For example I have a question, does the mobile miner really mine or is it just make believe?

Its just a mining simulation app, so it doesn't really mine. You gain coins for using the app

So it's a make believe app then.vaporware.

Now I have another question

Was this sold to investors as an ico with the idea of a working mobile Miner?
Did etn market this coin as a mobile miner?


I see they lied on the white paper and caught

https://electroneum.com/2017/10/24/how-much-can-i-earn-as-a-mobile-miner/




Was this coin marketed promoted and sold to investors as a mobile miner? Wasn't that what this coin was supposed to be?

they did not lie, because you will earn premined coins with the app. Also you can mine with almost any mobile phone out there (but its kinda stupid), so a "real" miner wouldnt make sense.

[BroganBloodstone]

For example I have a question, does the mobile miner really mine or is it just make believe?

Its just a mining simulation app, so it doesn't really mine. You gain coins for using the app

So it's a make believe app then.vaporware.

Now I have another question

Was this sold to investors as an ico with the idea of a working mobile Miner?
Did etn market this coin as a mobile miner?


I see they lied on the white paper and caught

https://electroneum.com/2017/10/24/how-much-can-i-earn-as-a-mobile-miner/




Was this coin marketed promoted and sold to investors as a mobile miner? Wasn't that what this coin was supposed to be?

they did not lie, because you will earn premined coins with the app. Also you can mine with almost any mobile phone out there (but its kinda stupid), so a "real" miner wouldnt make sense.

It is not stupid, it is clever. They are going to use is as a tool to attract people who would otherwise never do actual mining. Those individuals will not know any better, all they will care about is watching the coins build up in their wallets. They just need to make partnerships where spending the mined coins or converting to real cash is made easy and it will be a big win.

[Digital Drug Lord]

For example I have a question, does the mobile miner really mine or is it just make believe?

Its just a mining simulation app, so it doesn't really mine. You gain coins for using the app

So it's a make believe app then.vaporware.

Now I have another question

Was this sold to investors as an ico with the idea of a working mobile Miner?
Did etn market this coin as a mobile miner?


I see they lied on the white paper and caught

https://electroneum.com/2017/10/24/how-much-can-i-earn-as-a-mobile-miner/




Was this coin marketed promoted and sold to investors as a mobile miner? Wasn't that what this coin was supposed to be?

No

Question

Did electronuem promise $30 a month to the mobile miners yes or no?

For example I have a question, does the mobile miner really mine or is it just make believe?

Its just a mining simulation app, so it doesn't really mine. You gain coins for using the app

So it's a make believe app then.vaporware.

Now I have another question

Was this sold to investors as an ico with the idea of a working mobile Miner?
Did etn market this coin as a mobile miner?


I see they lied on the white paper and caught

https://electroneum.com/2017/10/24/how-much-can-i-earn-as-a-mobile-miner/




Was this coin marketed promoted and sold to investors as a mobile miner? Wasn't that what this coin was supposed to be?

they did not lie, because you will earn premined coins with the app. Also you can mine with almost any mobile phone out there (but its kinda stupid), so a "real" miner wouldnt make sense.

It is not stupid, it is clever. They are going to use is as a tool to attract people who would otherwise never do actual mining. Those individuals will not know any better, all they will care about is watching the coins build up in their wallets. They just need to make partnerships where spending the mined coins or converting to real cash is made easy and it will be a big win.

So it's considered clever to lie about the whole project? Without a working mobile miner this is just another coin. The only reason they made it this far is from the fact they were suppose to have a mobile miner

[callkiller]

So it's considered clever to lie about the whole project? Without a working mobile miner this is just another coin. The only reason they made it this far is from the fact they were suppose to have a mobile miner

The beta version is being tested at the moment, not long more and they will release the mobile miner.

[XmasJohn08]

By the way, why nobody make a screenshot of the mining APP? I'm referring to 100 users that already make the test, kind of strange.

[jhdeanda]

When are we going to see new Exchanges? And More Important when is the mining mobile being released....This team has not accomplished all the goals they promised...