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October 07, 2014, 09:31:26 AM
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wellllll
if btc price continues to fall and reaches a sane valuation, but AM preforms well despite this...we may see 2+ btc per share (which would be good for me, btc-wise)   Roll Eyes

How did you calculate the 2+ BTC per share?

Speculation/speculators dont bother calculations ^^
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October 07, 2014, 09:52:08 AM
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wellllll
if btc price continues to fall and reaches a sane valuation, but AM preforms well despite this...we may see 2+ btc per share (which would be good for me, btc-wise)   Roll Eyes
No. I don't think so.
TSMC only accept fiat currency. Company Operation cost, HR salary and other costs all spend out by fiat mode. If the coin price continues to fall. FC have to take larger percentage of btc income to cover company's cost and we all shareholders get less. It's a very clear situation.
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October 07, 2014, 02:03:31 PM
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wellllll
if btc price continues to fall and reaches a sane valuation, but AM preforms well despite this...we may see 2+ btc per share (which would be good for me, btc-wise)   Roll Eyes
No. I don't think so.
TSMC only accept fiat currency. Company Operation cost, HR salary and other costs all spend out by fiat mode. If the coin price continues to fall. FC have to take larger percentage of btc income to cover company's cost and we all shareholders get less. It's a very clear situation.

Hopefully a lot of the unprofitable miners will be shutting down their equipment and it will be easier for AM to get a bigger portion of the remaining hash rate.

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October 07, 2014, 02:47:04 PM
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And i would add that the only thing reassuring my confidence in AM and regarding btc price is that they did not rush into top tier expensive technology nodes, which may be foolish, if not doomish for the competitors.


(auto-)connecting the dots...

Based on the information provided the gen4 is coming along according to schedule. There will be some time span in which it will be evaluated. However, to put things in perspective any new chips will not move the profit margins too much. Profit margins are mainly a function of BTC price, network power and average upkeep costs. The tech has moved quickly in the last 2 years and is hitting Moore's barrier pretty hard. Main profits will likely come from innovative ways to reduce capex and opex, which not necessarily requires the latest chips.

squeezing each drop of those valuable words while waiting.
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October 07, 2014, 05:25:36 PM
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guys, am I imagining or is ASICMINER is selling at IPO?HuhHuh??

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October 07, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
Last edit: October 11, 2014, 04:32:21 PM by jimmothy
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guys, am I imagining or is ASICMINER is selling at IPO?HuhHuh??

I'm thinking an IPO shareholder wants out. Seems like almost all of the dumping is from individual people.
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October 07, 2014, 08:41:34 PM
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HL shows insufficient data.  I see we touched .10 once again. Did it go lower?
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October 08, 2014, 02:52:17 PM
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HL shows insufficient data.  I see we touched .10 once again. Did it go lower?

No, low seems to have been at 0.10000001, see that 29/100 shares bid, that got nibbled. So almost almost almost touching IPO prices, but not breaking through.

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October 08, 2014, 02:56:30 PM
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Correct me if i am wrong:

IPO was .1 if you bought from friedcat.
the part that was traded on glbse started with .11

don't let me make you question your assumptions
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October 08, 2014, 07:43:45 PM
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HL shows insufficient data.  I see we touched .10 once again. Did it go lower?

No, low seems to have been at 0.10000001, see that 29/100 shares bid, that got nibbled. So almost almost almost touching IPO prices, but not breaking through.
The last 500 dump also hit the wall @ 0.10000001, then rebounded.  Nothing to see here  Wink
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October 09, 2014, 10:24:43 AM
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Correct me if i am wrong:

IPO was .1 if you bought from friedcat.
the part that was traded on glbse started with .11

I believe it was 0.1, The IPO was extended on GLBSE and still never fully completed.

descaimer: I was there!

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October 09, 2014, 10:25:27 AM
Last edit: October 10, 2014, 03:20:06 PM by lophie
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Correct me if i am wrong:

IPO was .1 if you bought from friedcat.
the part that was traded on glbse started with .11

I believe it was 0.1, The IPO was extended on GLBSE and still never fully completed.

descaimer: I was there!

Also to my surprise no one considered the fact that the IPO in Dollar terms was waaaaaaaaaay lower than 0.1BTC!

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October 10, 2014, 04:36:21 AM
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from what ill call AM main address where it looks like they are lumping everything
https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

Found tx's for franchisee miners, if you look thru the address above there are alot of tx made that have more then one address all are from mining
https://blockchain.info/tx/aee8d5d8d04dbb580be85c641a660101c56d87c186d22d76d0bc4c2d06d5033c

https://blockchain.info/tx/13f34419d79504fe0c6a3d5b46b180171a3034ca08704b23db86095e562aa05c
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October 10, 2014, 05:49:27 AM
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Thanks man!
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October 10, 2014, 06:08:17 AM
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from what ill call AM main address where it looks like they are lumping everything
https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

Found tx's for franchisee miners, if you look thru the address above there are alot of tx made that have more then one address all are from mining
https://blockchain.info/tx/aee8d5d8d04dbb580be85c641a660101c56d87c186d22d76d0bc4c2d06d5033c

https://blockchain.info/tx/13f34419d79504fe0c6a3d5b46b180171a3034ca08704b23db86095e562aa05c

I like your enthusiasm, but there is no way that is actually an AM account.  There are entirely too many transactions 24/7... This is most likely an exchange wallet.  The transactions that are coming from AM sales addresses are simply AM exchanging btc for fiat.
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October 10, 2014, 06:45:57 AM
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from what ill call AM main address where it looks like they are lumping everything
https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

Found tx's for franchisee miners, if you look thru the address above there are alot of tx made that have more then one address all are from mining
https://blockchain.info/tx/aee8d5d8d04dbb580be85c641a660101c56d87c186d22d76d0bc4c2d06d5033c

https://blockchain.info/tx/13f34419d79504fe0c6a3d5b46b180171a3034ca08704b23db86095e562aa05c

I like your enthusiasm, but there is no way that is actually an AM account.  There are entirely too many transactions 24/7... This is most likely an exchange wallet.  The transactions that are coming from AM sales addresses are simply AM exchanging btc for fiat.

Could be the case.


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October 10, 2014, 09:55:28 AM
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from what ill call AM main address where it looks like they are lumping everything
https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

Found tx's for franchisee miners, if you look thru the address above there are alot of tx made that have more then one address all are from mining
https://blockchain.info/tx/aee8d5d8d04dbb580be85c641a660101c56d87c186d22d76d0bc4c2d06d5033c

https://blockchain.info/tx/13f34419d79504fe0c6a3d5b46b180171a3034ca08704b23db86095e562aa05c

I like your enthusiasm, but there is no way that is actually an AM account.  There are entirely too many transactions 24/7... This is most likely an exchange wallet.  The transactions that are coming from AM sales addresses are simply AM exchanging btc for fiat.
I'm pretty confident it is, look at the dates the tx start look at the amounts around those dates, if it was an exchange it would b e flooded with waaaay more transactions some days there was even any movement of btc

At the beginning there was only big sums then kinda dies for a little (chip sales)it picks back up when tubes come out kinda dies again, then most recently when the prisma came out that's when it became really active, check out chart below

https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions?address=3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8 plus its missing all thesmaller amounts

Ill go back and make a post that's put together better so it doesn't look like I'm grasping as straws
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October 10, 2014, 10:35:21 AM
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from what ill call AM main address where it looks like they are lumping everything
https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

Found tx's for franchisee miners, if you look thru the address above there are alot of tx made that have more then one address all are from mining
https://blockchain.info/tx/aee8d5d8d04dbb580be85c641a660101c56d87c186d22d76d0bc4c2d06d5033c

https://blockchain.info/tx/13f34419d79504fe0c6a3d5b46b180171a3034ca08704b23db86095e562aa05c

I like your enthusiasm, but there is no way that is actually an AM account.  There are entirely too many transactions 24/7... This is most likely an exchange wallet.  The transactions that are coming from AM sales addresses are simply AM exchanging btc for fiat.
I'm pretty confident it is, look at the dates the tx start look at the amounts around those dates, if it was an exchange it would b e flooded with waaaay more transactions some days there was even any movement of btc

At the beginning there was only big sums then kinda dies for a little (chip sales)it picks back up when tubes come out kinda dies again, then most recently when the prisma came out that's when it became really active, check out chart below

https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions?address=3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8 plus its missing all thesmaller amounts

Ill go back and make a post that's put together better so it doesn't look like I'm grasping as straws

Thank you
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October 13, 2014, 05:39:54 PM
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Under IPO we go @ 0.09BTC/share. Will we see 0.01BTC/share before the turn around? Long, cold winter for AM part deux.
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October 13, 2014, 05:42:56 PM
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Under IPO we go @ 0.09BTC/share. Will we see 0.01BTC/share before the turn around? Long, cold winter for AM part deux.

Well, I don't think we'll see 0.01 BTC... That's just too low!

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