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May 29, 2014, 10:12:17 PM |
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Well it looks like theirs a storm brewing in the main thread So hangs out in speculation where its a bit quiet for a bit You know that things are getting interesting when the Speculation thread is for the levelheaded crowd...
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freedomno1
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May 30, 2014, 12:50:59 AM |
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Well it looks like theirs a storm brewing in the main thread So hangs out in speculation where its a bit quiet for a bit You know that things are getting interesting when the Speculation thread is for the levelheaded crowd... True it's usually the opposite ha-ha but anyways I guess we are still waiting for Friedcat must be a lot of Activemining and Labcoin investors in that list so can see why they would be on a short fuze. Still better operational and quiet than talking and nothing being done. Although I will admit a nice new financial report to speculate on would be nice
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May 30, 2014, 01:59:03 PM |
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HELP !!!
I have not ran my multibit.exe for a couple months. When I did... I noticed my last payment from Friedcat was March 30. Why have I not received any payments beyond March 30? My shares were with BTC-TC. when they went down, they transferred my shares to direct with Friedcat. All has been well up to the March 30 payment. Anyone else have this issue? Is there a direct link or website address to the shares that Friedcat has? Does he have an email?
0df8dedd87... Block 293199 (2014-03-30 07:44:04) 0.00286 Received: Address
115tTroRo3B9ZDQ6A...
Thank you !!
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ujka
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May 30, 2014, 02:06:32 PM |
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You are joking, right? There were no dividends since March 30th. We are waiting for Gen3 hardware to start mining in AM farms, and for profit from bare chips sales. Any time now
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JoTheKhan
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May 30, 2014, 02:08:45 PM |
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HELP !!!
I have not ran my multibit.exe for a couple months. When I did... I noticed my last payment from Friedcat was March 30. Why have I not received any payments beyond March 30? My shares were with BTC-TC. when they went down, they transferred my shares to direct with Friedcat. All has been well up to the March 30 payment. Anyone else have this issue? Is there a direct link or website address to the shares that Friedcat has? Does he have an email?
0df8dedd87... Block 293199 (2014-03-30 07:44:04) 0.00286 Received: Address
115tTroRo3B9ZDQ6A...
Thank you !!
That was the last dividend. https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=AM1 See there.
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May 30, 2014, 02:46:03 PM |
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You are joking, right? There were no dividends since March 30th. We are waiting for Gen3 hardware to start mining in AM farms, and for profit from bare chips sales. Any time now Hold. Gen3 is REAL and you can buy it at places like Minersource.net (look for the R-BOX at $80 each, it uses the chip) right now. Look at the video Rockminer posted on Twitter, or in the Rockminer thread. They are actually tempting, so this is good news. Larger companies are investing and Friedcat is in the middle of it all with AM.
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freedomno1
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May 30, 2014, 10:15:30 PM |
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Well the financials came out It is still being digested though but for now remember to add questions to the Shareholder FAQ
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June 02, 2014, 01:12:11 PM Last edit: June 02, 2014, 01:22:38 PM by KarmaShark |
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Since this is the speculation thread and the main thread has turned into a post-apocalyptic scene out of a Hollywood blockbuster, maybe we can try to have a sane conversation on future value here. There are some important numbers to be vetted yet such as income per $GH/sold. Last year FC underpromised and overdelivered, which helped build confidence in the company and their future goals.
Now, one year later we find ourselves in a holding pattern while the company executes. Any thoughts on the price per share in the summer? The network difficulty, price per bitcoin and time to market are all going to be critical factors in accomplishing a profitable Gen3 launch. Could 1BTC/share be possible if the FC once again overdelivers? Could 2BTC be possible if euphoria takes over and repeats from last summer? If Gen4 is coming late 2014, does that help boost the share price after Gen3 ramps down?
Looks of speculation worthy topics floating around this company.
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Anotheranonlol
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June 02, 2014, 01:22:27 PM |
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Could 2BTC be possible if euphoria takes over and repeats from last summer?
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ujka
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June 02, 2014, 04:21:34 PM |
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Over there in main thread everybody is talking only about chips sales, but AM also planned to mine - 20PH, with francising. I don't think that changed, just some time is needed to build the hardware and populate farms. If started in a month or two, 20PH of efficient and cheap hardware, on cheap electricity, can still mine... what? 60'000, 80'000 btc?
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June 02, 2014, 05:07:12 PM |
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Over there in main thread everybody is talking only about chips sales, but AM also planned to mine - 20PH, with francising. I don't think that changed, just some time is needed to build the hardware and populate farms. If started in a month or two, 20PH of efficient and cheap hardware, on cheap electricity, can still mine... what? 60'000, 80'000 btc?
Well, we're at Block 303858 now, so we're just about halfway done with the 25 BTC block reward and on track to drop to a block reward of 12.5 BTC sometime in early 2016 or late 2015. That comes to 2,903,550 BTC (116,142 blocks x 25 BTC) up for grabs until then.
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"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford
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KarmaShark
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June 02, 2014, 05:28:30 PM |
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Over there in main thread everybody is talking only about chips sales, but AM also planned to mine - 20PH, with francising. I don't think that changed, just some time is needed to build the hardware and populate farms. If started in a month or two, 20PH of efficient and cheap hardware, on cheap electricity, can still mine... what? 60'000, 80'000 btc?
FC has under promised and over delivered in the past. Let's see what transpires in the next few weeks as it could have a dramatic impact on the share price.
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thatbluedude
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June 02, 2014, 09:24:27 PM |
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Let's assume all upcoming news are great. At what point would you dump like share price’s 4 again?
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shawshankinmate37927
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June 02, 2014, 09:31:24 PM |
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Let's assume all upcoming news are great. At what point would you dump like share price’s 4 again?
If I woke up tomorrow and shares were selling for 4 BTC, I would sell over half of my shares.
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"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford
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June 02, 2014, 09:39:16 PM |
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Let's assume all upcoming news are great. At what point would you dump like share price’s 4 again?
If I woke up tomorrow and shares were selling for 4 BTC, I would sell over half of my shares. least insanity in this thread
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KarmaShark
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June 02, 2014, 11:05:38 PM |
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Let's assume all upcoming news are great. At what point would you dump like share price’s 4 again?
If I woke up tomorrow and shares were selling for 4 BTC, I would sell over half of my shares. While I applaud your enthusiasm, I cannot foresee the share price hitting 4+ BTC ever again with the exchange rate and increased competition. Would be nice though, wouldn't it?
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June 02, 2014, 11:08:02 PM |
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Let's assume all upcoming news are great. At what point would you dump like share price’s 4 again?
If I woke up tomorrow and shares were selling for 4 BTC, I would sell over half of my shares. While I applaud your enthusiasm, I cannot foresee the share price hitting 4+ BTC ever again with the exchange rate and increased competition. Would be nice though, wouldn't it? never say never. and even more in bitcoinland.
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June 02, 2014, 11:08:54 PM |
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Let's assume all upcoming news are great. At what point would you dump like share price’s 4 again?
If I woke up tomorrow and shares were selling for 4 BTC, I would sell over half of my shares. While I applaud your enthusiasm, I cannot foresee the share price hitting 4+ BTC ever again with the exchange rate and increased competition. Would be nice though, wouldn't it? One can always dream although I think raking in 10 times profits seems more than reasonable from these levels Let alone 20
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shawshankinmate37927
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June 02, 2014, 11:18:06 PM |
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Let's assume all upcoming news are great. At what point would you dump like share price’s 4 again?
If I woke up tomorrow and shares were selling for 4 BTC, I would sell over half of my shares. While I applaud your enthusiasm, I cannot foresee the share price hitting 4+ BTC ever again with the exchange rate and increased competition. Would be nice though, wouldn't it? Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen again. I should have emphasized the "if". I'm actually more interested in the dividends and how long it will take to break even in dividend payments. Production costs will be a big part of determining which ASIC manufacturers sink or swim and I don't think anyone can beat AM's production costs.
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"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford
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June 03, 2014, 12:00:25 AM Last edit: June 03, 2014, 12:27:10 AM by hlynur |
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behold drunken analysis ahead (possibly flawed): imo the biggest problem is the change of main revenue in btc last year to fiat now during a rising bull market. Last year the advantage was that AM devices were sold directly in btc and on top the farm was mining along at a decent rate. so if AM isn't instantly converting shareholder's part of profit to btc it's a loosing game in the current phase, because the delayed payout of divs (which are constantly shrinking this way) will hardly cover the recent loss in sharevalue esp. if rising btcvalue gets priced in. (i hope this makes sense ) even if every shareholder gets the somewhere mentioned 0,1-0,15 BTC divs for sales of gen3 this would represent at minimum a payout of 26mio$/40.000 BTC (btc@650) for 400.000 shares atm (of which divs for bitfountain's part will probably drip back into AM to some extent). i can't imagine such a big part of profits is payed out esp. not with the rising competition and a possible bubble phase knocking at the door. now there are also costs for gen4 development...i picked up a number around at least 4-5 mio for 28nm on the forum and a lot of the other companies are already manufacturing that size. ergo the mining aspect seems really important to balance out lack of btc income and bridge the gap between gen3 and gen4. i decided to stand on the sideline and watch closely as long as i don't see the rollout schedule for the datacenters and updates on the magical containers. so far friedcat is selling chips like a champ and expanded the circle of contractors (rockminer, xbtec et.al.) while the datacenters - compared to last year - degraded more to a nice gimmick of the company. don't get me wrong i still see huge potential in AsicMiner it feels more to me like the mining cycle isn't perfectly blending in with the bubble cycle this time. (or did it match similarly during april 13 bubble?) disclaimer: panicsold all shares but one , recent btc investment cut in half. If i price in some overvalued shares bought for 1-3btc, i burned around 9 coins holding AM shares since last summer and the divs until now were a joke compared to trading profits with my gambling stash. So much for longterm investment...funnily i haven't lost too much in terms of original fiat investment. ...well i learned another lesson of btc economics and got a nice shirt out of it as a reminder instead of loosing one. (thanks to nubbins at this point, several washings and the print is still in mint condition - great quality!) let's see what the cheshire friedcat is cooking for the future...
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