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July 10, 2013, 08:12:38 PM
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Is BFL providing additional hardware to make up the difference?  3x480 = 1.44 TH

BFL's offer is +-10% of 500Gh/s.

That being said, new minirigs will be using all grade A chips (all 16 cores work on each chip) so each board should be doing 62-64Gh/s which adds up to over 500Gh/s.
Actually I'm pretty sure a flash of the boards in each MR will easily bring them to >500. However, overcoming heat would be a real big problem afaics.

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July 10, 2013, 09:46:00 PM
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Any word on the X-link issue? There is a rumor they're making new revision board. Is it inline with using all grade A chips?

No clue.
We've (ckolivas or I) not received anything since the Jalapeno we got to make cgminer work on the first version of the SC
(that's how we got cgminer working on the SCs, the day we got the Jalapenos)
All remote access we had for a day or 2 to BFL and gigavps has been Singles
(no singles have arrived either even though we were told a month ago they were sending them that day)

As many know, flashing firmware is easy enough and we've both already done it to our Jalapenos
http://www.kano-kun.net/?p=70 (and yes there I've said changing anything but the Jala would be a risk)
So I guess x-link isn't working and board revisions are required ... or they don't want cgminer to support it.

gigavps should, however, know the status of this ... or x-link is in an even worse situation than expected.

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July 13, 2013, 12:06:03 PM
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Any word on the X-link issue? There is a rumor they're making new revision board. Is it inline with using all grade A chips?

No clue.
We've (ckolivas or I) not received anything since the Jalapeno we got to make cgminer work on the first version of the SC
(that's how we got cgminer working on the SCs, the day we got the Jalapenos)
All remote access we had for a day or 2 to BFL and gigavps has been Singles
(no singles have arrived either even though we were told a month ago they were sending them that day)

As many know, flashing firmware is easy enough and we've both already done it to our Jalapenos
http://www.kano-kun.net/?p=70 (and yes there I've said changing anything but the Jala would be a risk)
So I guess x-link isn't working and board revisions are required ... or they don't want cgminer to support it.

gigavps should, however, know the status of this ... or x-link is in an even worse situation than expected.
Got dev singles shipped today (on their way but not arrived yet) so I guess that means x-link is only waiting on firmware and the hardware is OK.
I'll get cgminer working on x-link as soon as the firmware is ready (I've written the cgminer code, but it's untested thus no idea about if it works or not)
Just will need to flash and go with it Smiley

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July 19, 2013, 03:16:26 PM
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how would you plug in a complete minirig (3 of these 2 plug units) in a normal house?  How long are the two cords coming out of the units?
If each of the plugs need to be in a separate 15AMP plug, I don't think the two cords will stretch far enough.  You need to re-wire a bit then correct?

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July 19, 2013, 03:52:02 PM
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how would you plug in a complete minirig (3 of these 2 plug units) in a normal house?  How long are the two cords coming out of the units?
If each of the plugs need to be in a separate 15AMP plug, I don't think the two cords will stretch far enough.  You need to re-wire a bit then correct?

If you are only using existing 15A wiring then you will have to find 6 separate circuits to run 3 minirigs.  The cords are most likely 6ft each considering they are from a standard PSU.

If you are going to run these at your home you will most definitely need to run some new power lines. 30A or better.

EDIT: Better yet just do a 240V line (less current overall).

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July 19, 2013, 08:22:20 PM
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how would you plug in a complete minirig (3 of these 2 plug units) in a normal house?  How long are the two cords coming out of the units?
If each of the plugs need to be in a separate 15AMP plug, I don't think the two cords will stretch far enough.  You need to re-wire a bit then correct?
If you are only using existing 15A wiring then you will have to find 6 separate circuits to run 3 minirigs.  The cords are most likely 6ft each considering they are from a standard PSU.
If you are going to run these at your home you will most definitely need to run some new power lines. 30A or better.
EDIT: Better yet just do a 240V line (less current overall).
Yes, you see my point.   In a typical house, you do not usually have two separate circuits within 6 feet of each other and the rooms you do, your wife will kill you when you put it there.   I am thinking of the scenario where you want to mine in a big way.   18 avalons are deafening, 3 of these are better but still complex.   Either way you are cutting some drywall and buying some flowers or a much more comfortable couch to sleep on.

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July 19, 2013, 08:23:31 PM
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give it to me 3x63A 240V :-)

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July 19, 2013, 10:31:01 PM
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how would you plug in a complete minirig (3 of these 2 plug units) in a normal house?  How long are the two cords coming out of the units?
If each of the plugs need to be in a separate 15AMP plug, I don't think the two cords will stretch far enough.  You need to re-wire a bit then correct?
If you are only using existing 15A wiring then you will have to find 6 separate circuits to run 3 minirigs.  The cords are most likely 6ft each considering they are from a standard PSU.
If you are going to run these at your home you will most definitely need to run some new power lines. 30A or better.
EDIT: Better yet just do a 240V line (less current overall).
Yes, you see my point.   In a typical house, you do not usually have two separate circuits within 6 feet of each other and the rooms you do, your wife will kill you when you put it there.   I am thinking of the scenario where you want to mine in a big way.   18 avalons are deafening, 3 of these are better but still complex.   Either way you are cutting some drywall and buying some flowers or a much more comfortable couch to sleep on.
Odd, do you have DB ratings on a Minirig to make sure of your claim?

I just finished the 1st half of upgrading my Avalon and it runs quietly at 325Mhz at 45C. It can probably go higher on air cooling but I haven't had much time to mess around with the settings.

If the same fans used from the 1st generation of the Minirig are also used for the ASIC version, then....I don't think you can even come close to calling your story a legitimate claim.
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December 06, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
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Is there a tech sheet for these units anywhere? I am already running 4kW/h from four circuits @ 13 amps each @ 220v. Also, is there any competitors with such units to compare?

Thanks.

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December 06, 2013, 03:19:59 PM
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What do you want to know about them?  They draw ~2100 - 2200w between two PSUs, so around 1100w per PSU/circuit.

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December 06, 2013, 03:27:39 PM
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What do you want to know about them?  They draw ~2100 - 2200w between two PSUs, so around 1100w per PSU/circuit.


Thanks for the information about the power. Who are the main competitors or the main companies for ASIC's atm apart from KnCminers.


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December 06, 2013, 03:42:54 PM
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BFL, KnC and Bitfury are pretty much it.  BFL is the only one shipping miners from stock in any quantity.  You can pre-order from KnC (no stock) and I don't think Bitfury is doing quantity at the moment if they have any in stock at all.


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December 07, 2013, 12:06:52 AM
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BFL, KnC and Bitfury are pretty much it.  BFL is the only one shipping miners from stock in any quantity.  You can pre-order from KnC (no stock) and I don't think Bitfury is doing quantity at the moment if they have any in stock at all.



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December 07, 2013, 12:38:27 AM
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I expect my monarch in 2016 Fuck bfl

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December 09, 2013, 11:11:03 AM
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22k for 500 gh/s drawing 2200 watts

my bitfury full kit pulls between 430-460 GH and only uses 700W PSU and only cost me 8k

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22k for 500 gh/s drawing 2200 watts

my bitfury full kit pulls between 430-460 GH and only uses 700W PSU and only cost me 8k

Pretty sure a 22k 500gh/s unit shipped in June was better then a 8k 430-460gh/s unit shipped in September. I didn't do the math, but I'm guessing that BFL came out ahead assuming you got it in June-July when difficulty was still very low. Sure it doesn't make sense to order it now, but that is the reason BFL came out with Monarchs. Plus BitFury 25gh/s h-boards are now $999 instead of $500, so a full kit price doubled to 16k  Undecided

Edit: oops! as others pointed out, it was $30k for 1.5TH/s back then. It's Monday... I'm not really thinking straight right now.  Grin

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December 09, 2013, 04:45:37 PM
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It's also a kit, not a complete turn-key system.  BFL is about making mining easy and aesthetically pleasing for everyone, not just for tech nerds like us.

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December 09, 2013, 04:52:07 PM
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December 09, 2013, 04:53:34 PM
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22k for 500 gh/s drawing 2200 watts

my bitfury full kit pulls between 430-460 GH and only uses 700W PSU and only cost me 8k

Pretty sure a 22k 500gh/s unit shipped in June was better then a 8k 430-460gh/s unit shipped in September. I didn't do the math, but I'm guessing that BFL came out ahead assuming you got it in June-July when difficulty was still very low. Sure it doesn't make sense to order it now, but that is the reason BFL came out with Monarchs. Plus BitFury 25gh/s h-boards are now $999 instead of $500, so a full kit price doubled to 16k  Undecided

Pretty sure if you ordered the minirig at 22k, meaning you ordered after april 2013, you didn't get them until November. No one paid 22k for a june delivered minirig.

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December 09, 2013, 05:10:57 PM
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No one paid 22k for a june delivered minirig.

Exactly. The price of 3 500Gh/s units was $30k, $10k each.

That is what I paid.
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