[ANN] Infinitecoin (IFC) pool-Treasurequarry.com. 1.5% fee. P2pool Europe server

[TreasureSeeker]

You won't need to do anything, but if you have any shares immediately before the upgrade you'll lose them when the upgrade is done.  Everyone will then begin to earn shares from a fresh start.  There will be temporary winners and losers from this immediately after the upgrade...and some people will hardly be affected  - your luck in how fast you find a share in the new sharechain immediately after the upgrade will determine whether you're a temporary winner, loser or relatively unaffected.

I'll do html downloads of the graphs pages to my computer before the upgrade. There's a possibility the "live" graphs may be able to be imported into the upgrade, but if not, I'll re-upload the downloaded graphs as archived html pages.

Really glad you like the quarry, Cockeyed. What do you have planned for your computer upgrade?

[Hippie Tech]

The git-cloned copy isn't accepting the existing sharechain.  It looks like I'm going to need to scrub the existiing sharechain and start a new one.  Effectively this will restart the pool completely from scratch.  I'll do this on Monday.  That'll give anyone who is currently mining enough warning. 

[TreasureSeeker]

Well, even trying to run the upgrade completely fresh from the git-cloned download with a brand new empty sharechain failed with lots of errors, so I've gone back to the old faithful version of p2pool that we were using prior to 18th August.  

The "Share difficulty" on the Stats page and the "Expected time to share" are now displaying correctly again. The good news with this is that we've been able to keep all of the graphs live.  

We'll stay with this old faithful version for now.

[Cockeyed]

Really glad you like the quarry, Cockeyed. What do you have planned for your computer upgrade?

Right now I plan to do just an little upgrade by using another laptop with an nvidia quattro fx 770m graphics card in it. I think this should be at least a little bit more hashing rate.

But as I´m not an expert in configuring mining programs, I have no clue how I can tell to the bfgminer that there is an opengl card now. Maybe tomorrow I will do some hours of google research for that. For tonight I have to continue with CPU-miner as I did not get bfgminer running. Maybe I have to enable opengl somewhere in the cards driver, or installing some additional driver or something...

Edit after one Day: I managed to get BFGminer work with my card. I tried to mine, but it did not appear on the stat. My miner line is:

bfgminer -o http://treasurequarry.com:9844 -u iNYf2CfdzeMcpinuC3jxWAhXD79PXC3QF1+0.00001000 -p x

anything I need to change? Thanks?

[TreasureSeeker]

You need to add

--scrypt

so that bfgminer does the correct type of hashing.

Using your example command line it should therefore be 

bfgminer --scrypt -o http://treasurequarry.com:9844 -u iNYf2CfdzeMcpinuC3jxWAhXD79PXC3QF1+0.00001000 -p x

[TreasureSeeker]

TreasureQuarry has now been upgraded to the latest Infinitecoind version 1.4 which fisheater released earlier today.  The upgrade was quick and painless and the new version is working perfectly - yay!

[Cockeyed]

You need to add

--scrypt

so that bfgminer does the correct type of hashing.

Using your example command line it should therefore be 

bfgminer --scrypt -o http://treasurequarry.com:9844 -u iNYf2CfdzeMcpinuC3jxWAhXD79PXC3QF1+0.00001000 -p x

Thanks! I am now all set up. I also upgraded a bit more now. ;-) Now the coins are rolling off.

I really need to find out what to do with them except from exchaning them for other coins...

[killdemon]

What about Infinitecoin version 1.5? Pool is upgraded to the latest version?

[TreasureSeeker]

What about Infinitecoin version 1.5? Pool is upgraded to the latest version?

Yes, it is now.  Sorry for not doing it yesterday - been ill the last few days (sneeze, cough, sniffle) but fighting back now and upgraded in time for the fork at 24800.

The new version has settled in nicely and is looking good.

[TreasureSeeker]

TreasureQuarry has now been upgraded to Infinitecoin 1.6 following fisheater's release earlier today.

[Cockeyed]

If your main miner crashes sometimes like mine, then its strongly recommended to have some kind of backup miner to save your high payments. If no miner at all serves your account, you will have a big gap. Just my 2cent worth of experiences which I have. Look at my stat (iNYf2CfdzeMcpinuC3jxWAhXD79PXC3QF1) of this hour, then you know what I mean.  By the way: It seems a bit vacated here. Everybody on hollidays? Best mining...

[TreasureSeeker]

Thanks for sharing the mining tips, Cockeyed.

TreasureQuarry has now been upgraded to Infinitecoin version 1.7 which was released earlier today.  Roll-on block 248000 when the new difficulty retargeting is due to come into play.

[c1010010]

TreasureSeeker -

Mind looking at this?

Code:

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 9/20/2013 21:39
Source: Generated
Credit: (not accepted)
Net amount: 0.00 IFC
Transaction ID: f7c350e55cb2de64f6ac95ab455dcf06897624c800f5349cda0a2fcf5106672

[TreasureSeeker]

TreasureSeeker -

Mind looking at this?

Code:

Status: 0/unconfirmed
Date: 9/20/2013 21:39
Source: Generated
Credit: (not accepted)
Net amount: 0.00 IFC
Transaction ID: f7c350e55cb2de64f6ac95ab455dcf06897624c800f5349cda0a2fcf5106672

Hello c1010010,

Looking at the block explorer, it seems that this transaction is from an orphaned block....if you do a search for the transaction you'll see that http://exploretheblocks.com:2750/tx/f7c350e55cb2de64f6ac95ab455dcf06897624c800f5349cda0a2fcf51066727   shows that the transaction "Appeared in Infinitecoin 1bef1a24d3...a5b7 (2013-09-21 01:38:53)" .  The fact that it says the transaction  appeared in a hash rather than in a block number is the first clue that this is an orphaned block.  Clicking on the 1bef1a24d3...a5b7  link gets you to http://exploretheblocks.com:2750/block/1bef1a24d3e87b220eec4d89e5d8ccc5b2195c476640b131c86aadd74a8da5b7  which shows that this block hash appeared at "Height: 246054".  Going back to the main search box at http://exploretheblocks.com:2750/ and inputting that block number, 246054, gives two results - the true block "Infinitecoin 246054" and our poor unfortunate orphan block  "Infinitecoin 1bef1a24d3e87b220eec4d89e5d8ccc5b2195c476640b131c86aadd74a8da5b7".

You can confirm that the true block  "Infinitecoin 246054" is the one that made it into the blockchain.  Clicking on that block shows its hash is 31e5ab9ff60936a3a2634fac3d2ef71cbb8bb37199a992e9acdc322de641a76e  .  If you then look at block 246055 you 'll see the "Previous Block: 31e5ab9ff60936a3a2634fac3d2ef71cbb8bb37199a992e9acdc322de641a76e" shown (ie not our block hash 1bef1a24d3e87b220eec4d89e5d8ccc5b2195c476640b131c86aadd74a8da5b7).

Unfortunately there seem to be lots of orphaning going on in the Infinitecoin network due to the crazy difficulty swings in the Infinitecoin 1.6 update. During the really low difficulty periods, blocks are being found across the network in sometimes a second or less, causing the orphaning.

Roll-on block 248000.

[c1010010]

Thanks for the fully detailed response.

Every time I think I know what I'm doing... I find a whole new level of detail, information, and explanation.

You rock.

And yes.. waiting for the "new rules" block.

[Hippie Tech]

Does anyone remember when I first noticed these so called orphans ?

Why am I not being paid for some/many of the blocks ?

iC6Yr743UWVzt3vtYWBXGxPsZNBmUzjgNB

196495
http://exploretheblocks.com:2750/block/a7430f2fbbecc12f1a0fcbbe6dfb80c84d6786c87aed70b6b637a3e42c4d824a

196471
http://exploretheblocks.com:2750/block/066f236f4cfac98f7729c80cd74b187ef096aaa3ae0929c401ca407eb8868ada

There are others aswell.

And the response he made up ?

Good questions, Hippie Tech and powpow.  You had me worried there for a while, but after looking into it, these are orphaned blocks.

Generally with found blocks, if you go to the search box on the block explorer at http://exploretheblocks.com:2750/chain/Infinitecoin and type in the block number you'll get just one infinitecoin block displayed on the results. For example if you input block 123456 you 'll get:


    Infinitecoin 123456
    Bitcoin (BTC)
    Testnet (BC0)
    Namecoin (NMC)
    Weeds (WDS)
    BeerTokens (BER)
    SolidCoin (SCN)
    ScTestnet (SC0)
    Infinitecoin (IFC)

 
However, if you go to the search box on the block explorer at http://exploretheblocks.com:2750/chain/Infinitecoin and type any of the block numbers that you've mentioned, you'll get two results - our orphaned block which doesn't have the block number beside it (but has just a block hash instead) and the the "real block" (booo!) which has the block number beside it, for example using block 196495 the results are

    Infinitecoin 196495
    Infinitecoin a7430f2fbbecc12f1a0fcbbe6dfb80c84d6786c87aed70b6b637a3e42c4d824a
    Bitcoin (BTC)
    Testnet (BC0)
    Namecoin (NMC)
    Weeds (WDS)
    BeerTokens (BER)
    SolidCoin (SCN)
    ScTestnet (SC0)
    Infinitecoin (IFC)

The payout addresses listed in our orphaned blocks are actually some kind of alternative version of your own addresses.  For example, Hippie Tech's address iC6Yr743UWVzt3vtYWBXGxPsZNBmUzjgNB  has its alternative version of 19d2R2ef47EdTqi43iD1pAddMuuYuAsYqU displayed in the orphaned blocks.  This can be confirmed by putting each of those two versions of the address into the block explorer search - you'll see that all of the transactions are identical. 

LOL Whatever makes you happy, c1010010. I'm sure the next one won't cost you anything either.

[c1010010]

LOL Whatever makes you happy, c1010010. I'm sure the next one won't cost you anything either.

Yea, I know you post this all the time.

I have to admit again, as I have had before, there is a lot of this process I don't completely understand.

So, you are saying my account is not being credited.  Do you have proof that it is going someplace else?  If you do, please share, cause I would want it made right.

If you are just guessing... then please say that too.

[Hippie Tech]

LOL Whatever makes you happy, c1010010. I'm sure the next one won't cost you anything either.

Yea, I know you post this all the time.

I have to admit again, as I have had before, there is a lot of this process I don't completely understand.

So, you are saying my account is not being credited.  Do you have proof that it is going someplace else?  If you do, please share, cause I would want it made right.

If you are just guessing... then please say that too.

First off, thanks for not taking my being blunt personal.

It would be nice if someone more qualified could step in and help clear matters. For now all I can go on is experience and logic.

Heres 1Q76MuB8A59o78Mf8hsNReCaUg1YmM2gSt from block 196471.  http://exploretheblocks.com:2750/address/1Q76MuB8A59o78Mf8hsNReCaUg1YmM2gSt

The coins are definitely going somewhere.

[TreasureSeeker]

Serious warning to everyone before reading this...please back up your wallet.dat file - if you lose this you'll lose all of your Infinitecoins.

OK...following the discussion in the main Infinitecoin thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=225891.1340 about to fork or not to fork - that is the question.  I was initially thinking that going with the new blockchain fork was not a good idea, but everything seems to be pointing to the new fork winning the day.  Although the block explorer has confirmed that block 246954 was found today, my home PC has still been showing only 246953 blocks .  Shutting down and restarting Infinitecoin has  given a message that I've never seen before "Exception11DBException DB::put:Cannot allocate memory infinitecoin in ProcessMessages(). All in all, the old blockchain isn't looking very healthy from what I can see.

I've just tried backing up, then deleting the contents of the .infinitecoin directory on my home PC, to see what blockchain it would naturally sync to.  It has ended up downloading and synching to what seems to be the monocolor fork.   Blocks seem to be passing by at a reasonable rate on this fork.

As far as I understand, bitcoin conventions say the longest chain wins, which again favours the monocolor fork.

As far as I understand, posters in the main Infinitecoin thread are correct in saying that (apart from mined generation rewards), no transactions should be lost if we switch chains, even transactions between blocks 246948 and 248954 .  

There is however a small "double spend" risk whilst 2 forks exist as far as I've read.

Some info from when bitcoin experienced a chain fork....

Regular users are not affected. Their transactions are included in both ledgers and don't need to change any programs.

The fix is technically straightforward, and (with the exception of coins "mined" in the last couple of hours) users' Bitcoins are not in any danger of being lost

I'm proposing that we accept the monocolor fork on TreasureQuarry.  I'll personally pay out to TreasureQuarry miners any block-generation losses from blocks  246948 to 248954 .

This equates to    
Block 246953 Generation: 131072 + 2.2 total fees
Block 246954 Generation: 131072 + 0 total fees

Comments from current miners are welcome.

updated: I'm currently downloading what seems to now known as the "correct blockchain" to TreasureQuarry.  Mining will probably stop or be at 100% rejects whilst the blockchain is being downloaded.  We should then be mining the "correct" (monocolor) blockchain.  There is no need to adjust your miner.

To get the new ("correct","monocolor") blockchain on your pc please follow tokyoghetto's post at
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=225891.msg3236233#msg3236233

[TreasureSeeker]

TreasureQuarry has now completed the downloading of the "correct" "monocolor" blockchain and we're now happily mining away on this chain. We're currently trying to solve block 251681 as I write this.

Happy mining everyone.