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August 18, 2013, 01:51:27 AM
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The payouts wobble - sometimes severely and sometimes down to zero but in the longer term (not just looking at a few blocks) you'll get the right total payout.

I think the only way to explain this is to look at how much you've received.  Lets look at the last 24 hours as an example.

Looking at the block explorer (which uses UTC) for the last 24 hours, from 1AM yesterday 1AM today, you've received a total of 1974568.17745222 IFC at your iC6Yr743UWVzt3vtYWBXGxPsZNBmUzjgNB address .  706000 IFC of this was a big lump-sum so we'll deduct that as it wouldn't have come from the pool (it's a good idea to use a unique address for the pool to make checking like this easier).  Anyway, that leaves 1268568.17745222 that you have received from the pool on your  iC6Yr743UWVzt3vtYWBXGxPsZNBmUzjgNB address over the last 24 hours.

The average (mean) hashing speed of your iC6Yr743UWVzt3vtYWBXGxPsZNBmUzjgNB  address over the last 24 hours, as shown on the graph below was 991kh/s.



The average network difficulty of Infinitecoin from 1AM UTC yesterday to 1AM UTC today was  2.925633059 (average of infinitecoin blocks 206911 to 209826 which you can confirm by the block explorer and a spreadsheet).

So, at an average difficulty of 2.925633059 and an average hashrate of 991 kh/s, how much should you have earned?

I don't know of a specific IFC calculator but we can interpolate from burnside's LTC calculator at http://ltc.kattare.com/calc.php.

According to burnside's LTC calculator you would expect to earn 340.7044 LTC per day on average.  At Litecoin's rate of 50 LTC per block, that's 6.814088 blocks (ie  340.7044 / 50 ) of difficulty 2.925633059  that you'd expect to find on average.  At Infinitecoin's 131072 IFC per block, 6.814088 blocksworth = 893136.142336 IFC that you'd be expected to mine at your average hashrate of  991 kh/s.

Seeing as you've actually received 1268568.17745222 IFC from the pool, you've received 142% of what would be expected.

Seems good to me Smiley


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August 18, 2013, 04:22:44 AM
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No it is not good because ONCE AGAIN.. my other pc is currently burning 600 khash away for nothing. The estimate has gone to ZERO AGAIN. Please explain this.


Why are you not addressing this ?

The hashes are being recorded but the IFC payments are dropping or non existant.

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August 18, 2013, 04:39:33 AM
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No it is not good because ONCE AGAIN.. my other pc is currently burning 600 khash away for nothing. The estimate has gone to ZERO AGAIN. Please explain this.

Why are you not addressing this ?

The hashes are being recorded but the IFC payments are dropping or non existant.

share diff. on the pool right now is  :    
Share difficulty  : 0.575       =   37683   (37k on cgminer)

Did your pc gets any shares that the diff. above this ?
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August 18, 2013, 04:57:57 AM
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I am not the only one suffering these losses. All of the addresses show the same hashrate but the reward drops significantly.

Don't let him confuse you with those formulas, sololoop. That has nothing to do with what is going on here.

What is your mining address ?

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August 18, 2013, 05:11:38 AM
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I am not the only one suffering these losses. All of the addresses show the same hashrate but the reward drops significantly.

Don't let him confuse you with those formulas, sololoop. That has nothing to do with what is going on here.

What is your mining address ?

what confuse....
it is p2pool share diff. on the pool that we should know.
The target share diff is 0.581 (38k) < ------ miner get share above this get real shares.
The Block diff. is 3.7505 (246k)  <---- miner get share above this . we found a block.

Every single share we submit(accept by pool) on dynamic diff. (32, 64, 128, 1k , 2k , 3k) show on cgminer "Connected to treasurequarry.com diff 1.3k" is not a real share....
This is the share used to report your hash rate,.

Herewith is P2Pool FAQ about share :  from bitcoin wiki  : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool
Q: Why am I not getting very many shares?!
A: The P2Pool difficulty is hundreds of times higher than on other pools. It can take time to get a share. P2Pool displays an estimate of how long you have to wait in the console output.

Q: Why does my miner say it has found a lot of shares but p2pool say I have only found a few?!
A: The real P2Pool difficulty is hundreds of times higher than on normal pools, but p2pool essentially lies to your miner and tells it to work on relatively easy shares so that it submits shares every few seconds instead of every few hours. P2Pool then ignores any submitted shares that don't match the real share difficulty. By doing this, P2Pool can more accurately report your local hash rate and you can see if you are having problems with too many stale shares quickly



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August 18, 2013, 05:22:46 AM
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Its been over 2 hours since my 600 khash has recieve any payment.

I demand compensation.

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August 18, 2013, 05:32:47 AM
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Its been over 2 hours since my 600 khash has recieve any payment.

I demand compensation.

that's why i asked what is your 600khash best share on your miner ??
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August 18, 2013, 05:35:59 AM
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Its been over 2 hours since my 600 khash has recieve any payment.

I demand compensation.

for 0.6m /hs on 0.58 diff.  it should take avg. 1.1533 hours
Calculate here : on ltc type in your hashrate 0.6m    , diff. type in  0.58
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August 18, 2013, 05:40:53 AM
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Its been over 2 hours since my 600 khash has recieve any payment.

I demand compensation.

that's why i asked what is your 600khash best share on your miner ??


That is my 2nd pc and the best share has nothing to do with this ! You are also avoiding the obvious .. or so it seems.

Its been running nearly non stop with this pool as the 'week' graphs show. The other 1000 khash can be seen jumping in and out.

I must be out 200-300k IFC AT LEAST.

LET ME REPEAT. IT HAS BEEN WELL OVER 3 HOURS SINCE IVE BEEN PAID FOR ANY BLOCKS FOUND BY THIS POOL.

http://treasurequarry.com:9844/static/graphs.html?Week

iC6Yr743UWVzt3vtYWBXGxPsZNBmUzjgNB

Look closely. Week, Day, Hour... with every chart its very easy to see when the IFC amount drops.

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August 18, 2013, 12:22:19 PM
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This started happening to me a couple days ago (i left a message here but wad left with the same rubbish you are getting). My solution has been to move pools (ifc.epools.com) and that pool (with a much higher castrate) is paying out fine. Good luck.

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August 18, 2013, 01:07:16 PM
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I don't know how much clearer I can say it.  Depending on your hashrate relative to the pool you will not necessarily get paid for every block found by the pool. However in the long term you should get the correct total payout.

This is common to p2pool and just how p2pool works.  Take a look at the graphs on another p2pool site, p2pool org at http://p2pool.org:9377/static/graphs.html?Day for  6npqNmr5qgkJB9NA6Q7iC8PRSry2EjkXLN and  6vysnvjxxtkapAc8WwQUQrTrekB6DdqN6V  .  Or at http://p2pool.org:8900/static/graphs.html?Day for bT6mbYTq3BJCZvdej66vekpU8ebDQPZrfD .  You''ll see similar gaps in payout entitlement for some periods.

You're welcome to do the same calculations as I did in my previous post for your iC6Yr743UWVzt3vtYWBXGxPsZNBmUzjgNB address, Hippie Tech. The data is all publicly accessible.

If you're not happy with how p2pool works then I respectfully suggest you simply use a traditional pool instead.

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August 18, 2013, 02:27:07 PM
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This started happening to me a couple days ago (i left a message here but wad left with the same rubbish you are getting). My solution has been to move pools (ifc.epools.com) and that pool (with a much higher castrate) is paying out fine. Good luck.

Thank you Roddy. Smiley  I will try epools right after I'm done with my scammer accusation thread. Wink

I CANT FREAKING BELIEVE THAT I AM BEING RIPPED OFF !

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August 18, 2013, 02:30:26 PM
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I don't know how much clearer I can say it.  Depending on your hashrate relative to the pool you will not necessarily get paid for every block found by the pool. However in the long term you should get the correct total payout.

This is common to p2pool and just how p2pool works.  Take a look at the graphs on another p2pool site, p2pool org at http://p2pool.org:9377/static/graphs.html?Day for  6npqNmr5qgkJB9NA6Q7iC8PRSry2EjkXLN and  6vysnvjxxtkapAc8WwQUQrTrekB6DdqN6V  .  Or at http://p2pool.org:8900/static/graphs.html?Day for bT6mbYTq3BJCZvdej66vekpU8ebDQPZrfD .  You''ll see similar gaps in payout entitlement for some periods.

You're welcome to do the same calculations as I did in my previous post for your iC6Yr743UWVzt3vtYWBXGxPsZNBmUzjgNB address, Hippie Tech. The data is all publicly accessible.

If you're not happy with how p2pool works then I respectfully suggest you simply use a traditional pool instead.


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August 18, 2013, 06:46:31 PM
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I'm about to upgrade the pool to the newest version of the p2pool software.  There is a new feature on this version - a tweakable DUST_THRESHOLD setting.  I'll be setting this to 0.01e8 which I believe is measured in Satoshis (or Infinitoshis), so should be equivalent to  0.01 IFC .  This should help reduce the payout variance for relatively lower hashrate miners.     

I'm hoping to get the upgrade done without any noticeable downtime or miner disconnects.  Apologies if you hear any explosions in the quarry whilst this is happening.

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August 18, 2013, 07:22:51 PM
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Ack - just upgraded and now noticed there's yet another new version this morning - will do another upgrade in the next hour or so.

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August 18, 2013, 08:22:50 PM
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Upgrade completed now. Smiley  Enjoy the updated goodness everyone Smiley

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August 18, 2013, 09:20:25 PM
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Thanks for upgrading. Can you tell what are the exact +points of the new pool software´s update? I hope we will not have any open fire or something in the quarry...
Yesterday I bought another used laptop for my work, it has an "NVIDIA Quadro FX 770M" which should give me some more speed than now (maybe 6-7 kH/s). Surely, not comparable with recent ATIs, but I did not buy it for mining, so what.

Any hints, which miner and which settings I should use with that? So far I use bfgMiner for BitCoins and cpuMiner for IFCs.

By the way: I observe that the TreasureQuarry slowly gets crowded... When I started, there were only 5 miners or so, now there are many more.
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August 19, 2013, 01:06:14 AM
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WARNING TO ALL THOSE MINING AT TREASUREQUARRY DOT COM !!

MANY OF YOU ARE REPORTING SHARES/ HASHPOWER AND ARE NOT BEING PAID ! PLEASE CHECK YOUR HOURLY, DAILY AND WEEKLY GRAPHS !

ALSO BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR UNEXPLAINED DROPS IN YOUR IFC REWARD. IF YOUR HASHRATE AND THE POOL'S HASHRATE ARE CONSTANT, THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY SIGNIFICANT DECLINE.

I HAVE LOST MANY THOUSANDS IFC DURING THE LAST FEW DAYS MINING FOR THIS POOL.

WE DEMAND PAYMENT.

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August 19, 2013, 01:15:15 AM
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I am also not convinced about what was said with regards to the unpaid blocks that initially aroused my suspicions of you and this pool.

PROVE THAT THESE BLOCKS WERE NOT STOLEN FROM US !

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August 19, 2013, 01:40:43 AM
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WARNING TO ALL THOSE MINING AT TREASUREQUARRY DOT COM !!

MANY OF YOU ARE REPORTING SHARES/ HASHPOWER AND ARE NOT BEING PAID ! PLEASE CHECK YOUR HOURLY, DAILY AND WEEKLY GRAPHS !

ALSO BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR UNEXPLAINED DROPS IN YOUR IFC REWARD. IF YOUR HASHRATE AND THE POOL'S HASHRATE ARE CONSTANT, THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY SIGNIFICANT DECLINE.

I HAVE LOST MANY THOUSANDS IFC DURING THE LAST FEW DAYS MINING FOR THIS POOL.

WE DEMAND PAYMENT.

You ignore my previous post that asking your 2nd (600k/hs)'s best share. It could help figure out what is the problem (bugs/scam) on the pool.
Then, I started a fresh 350k/hs miner for testing:

As you can see 350k/hs miner got an real shares 0.62 / 40.9k (above 0.224 / 14.6k) but still not in payout group. I also checked on blockchain, but no payment.
350k /hs address : i5Yr98JM8G3RXPQcozYx5nTb2enEE9cdK4
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