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Author Topic: Just-Dice.com : now with added CLAMs : Play or Invest  (Read 454563 times)
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July 12, 2013, 08:15:19 AM
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I haven't seen brown numbers before in the betlist, that must be new, what does it mean when the numbers are brown instead of green or red ?
New to me as well.

Just guessing: a win regardless of whether you click "high" or "low"
Yea you must be right, i diden't look closer to the numbers but that explanation fits the result in the picture.

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July 12, 2013, 09:17:05 AM
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maybe you should consider using something like https://www.cloudflare.com/ ... idk! just maybe Smiley

Certainly not.
If you use cloudflare on anything remotely BTC-related you're a security dumbass.

maybe there is another service like cloudflare... i just know this as i am not dev myself... just something to keep the site up more than 99.9% of the time Smiley

What will you do with an online frontend if the betting backend is down/offline?
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July 12, 2013, 02:29:56 PM
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maybe you should consider using something like https://www.cloudflare.com/ ... idk! just maybe Smiley

Certainly not.
If you use cloudflare on anything remotely BTC-related you're a security dumbass.

MTGox uses Cloudflare and Prolexic, blockchain.info uses Cloudflare. So, why?

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July 12, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
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MTGox uses Cloudflare and Prolexic, blockchain.info uses Cloudflare. So, why?
Because they can see your password in clear text. And they can log everything you do.
I certainly don't trust a bunch of american hipsters offering a service mostly for free to protect my privacy and property.

Ok, this is a valid point for MTGox as they have your name, address, phone... in you account (thought if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear), but in the case of blockchain.info and just-dice, this isn't a problem.

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July 12, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
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(thought if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear)
GHhghhhugh.

Oh, having user/password and be able to bet, widthdraw bitcoins is not an issue now?

Is it? Enlighten me, because as far as I know, this isn't illegal, yet.

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July 12, 2013, 03:10:13 PM
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(thought if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear)
GHhghhhugh.

Oh, having user/password and be able to bet, widthdraw bitcoins is not an issue now?

Is it? Enlighten me, because as far as I know, this isn't illegal, yet.
You did not understand at all.
All I'm saying is that CloudFlare can steal your password, your bitcoins whenever they want. Or give it to governments.

They can't steal your Bitcoins because your bitcoins are stored in doog's cold storage.

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July 12, 2013, 03:34:00 PM
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(thought if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear)
GHhghhhugh.

Oh, having user/password and be able to bet, widthdraw bitcoins is not an issue now?

Is it? Enlighten me, because as far as I know, this isn't illegal, yet.
You did not understand at all.
All I'm saying is that CloudFlare can steal your password, your bitcoins whenever they want. Or give it to governments.

Well, if the CloudFlare production servers can be accessed by any employee of the company, so yes, this can be a problem. But I'm sure that these servers are very critical and only employees that can be counted on the fingers of one hand can access them and I'm also sure that every access to these server are logged. So, I really won't be worried about this.

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July 12, 2013, 03:48:34 PM
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I wrote a little user script yesterday that shows you the site profit percentage in real time:

http://bpaste.net/show/JnfKqDKVD6f0HV7CTVYp/



It's surprising easy to write scripts for J-D.  Grin

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July 12, 2013, 04:16:44 PM
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I wrote a little user script yesterday that shows you the site profit percentage in real time:

http://bpaste.net/show/JnfKqDKVD6f0HV7CTVYp/



It's surprising easy to write scripts for J-D.  Grin

Impressive!

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July 12, 2013, 04:51:37 PM
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I wrote a little user script yesterday that shows you the site profit percentage in real time:

http://bpaste.net/show/JnfKqDKVD6f0HV7CTVYp/



It's surprising easy to write scripts for J-D.  Grin

I added something similar to the 'chat' and 'stats' tabs.  You'll see it when you reload.

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I wrote a little user script yesterday that shows you the site profit percentage in real time:

http://bpaste.net/show/JnfKqDKVD6f0HV7CTVYp/



It's surprising easy to write scripts for J-D.  Grin

I added something similar to the 'chat' and 'stats' tabs.  You'll see it when you reload.

So the site is up 0.7% higher than it should be, does this mean investing now might be a bad idea or am I getting the math really wrong?

Thanks Smiley
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July 12, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
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I wrote a little user script yesterday that shows you the site profit percentage in real time:

http://bpaste.net/show/JnfKqDKVD6f0HV7CTVYp/



It's surprising easy to write scripts for J-D.  Grin

I added something similar to the 'chat' and 'stats' tabs.  You'll see it when you reload.

So the site is up 0.7% higher than it should be, does this mean investing now might be a bad idea or am I getting the math really wrong?

Thanks Smiley

No, you are a victim of Gambler's fallacy. Ironically, that is what is making this site so much money.

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July 12, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
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So the site is up 0.7% higher than it should be, does this mean investing now might be a bad idea or am I getting the math really wrong?

Thanks Smiley

No, you are a victim of Gambler's fallacy. Ironically, that is what is making this site so much money.

Good read, so lets see if I have this right:

Given enough time the profit percentage will approach closer and closer to 1%. But this doesn't mean we have to take a loss on our investment over this same time period.

The win rate for the site will get closer to 1 percent as the law of large numbers causes it to even out, however this does not mean we lose money necessarily.

Am I correct?
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July 12, 2013, 06:44:42 PM
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does jd do anything to protect user privacy and anonymity? does it log IP addresses? does it log conversations from chat? does it delete information that is not useful long term?
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does jd do anything to protect user privacy and anonymity? does it log IP addresses? does it log conversations from chat? does it delete information that is not useful long term?

Conversations in chat I would assume are logged (And any user can also log them if they want, that's the beauty of sockets). No information is intentionally deleted (why would it be?)

If you want to protect your privacy, you should rather do it yourself rather than trusted the site to do it for you. Only browse using a VPN and encrypt you messages if you don't want everybody to read it.

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July 12, 2013, 07:38:24 PM
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So the site is up 0.7% higher than it should be, does this mean investing now might be a bad idea or am I getting the math really wrong?

Thanks Smiley

No, you are a victim of Gambler's fallacy. Ironically, that is what is making this site so much money.

Good read, so lets see if I have this right:

Given enough time the profit percentage will approach closer and closer to 1%. But this doesn't mean we have to take a loss on our investment over this same time period.

The win rate for the site will get closer to 1 percent as the law of large numbers causes it to even out, however this does not mean we lose money necessarily.

Am I correct?

You are correct.  Just because the site is up 1.7% now doesn't mean anything.  Future results are still expected to be 1%.  This is why a martingale betting strategy can be so dangerous.
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July 12, 2013, 09:06:51 PM
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So the site is up 0.7% higher than it should be, does this mean investing now might be a bad idea or am I getting the math really wrong?

Thanks Smiley

No, you are a victim of Gambler's fallacy. Ironically, that is what is making this site so much money.

Good read, so lets see if I have this right:

Given enough time the profit percentage will approach closer and closer to 1%. But this doesn't mean we have to take a loss on our investment over this same time period.

The win rate for the site will get closer to 1 percent as the law of large numbers causes it to even out, however this does not mean we lose money necessarily.

Am I correct?

Yes, it seems like since the profit is at 1.77% now and it will be at 1% in the infinite future, the profit has to go down now. Although the profit going down to 1% would be just as possible as the profit going up to 2.54%.

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July 12, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
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I'm running a martingale python script and was working fine for the last 3 days and now I get a 403 forbidden message. That indicates that they don't want me betting anymore. I asked 4 times on chat why is this happening and no reply, NOTHING REGARDING this problem. Great customer service!!!!
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July 12, 2013, 09:52:00 PM
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I'm running a martingale python script and was working fine for the last 3 days and now I get a 403 forbidden message. That indicates that they don't want me betting anymore. I asked 4 times on chat why is this happening and no reply, NOTHING REGARDING this problem. Great customer service!!!!

There's a "contact us" section in the FAQ.  It doesn't suggest asking in the chat.  I'm often in the chat, but not 24/7.

In the last 24 hours or so the site has come under attack, and so I have had to put countermeasures in place.  If your Python script is reconnecting to the site over and over again then you may have been affected by the countermeasures.  This may also cause your chat messages to be silently ignored.

We've had someone spamming the chat with bible passages from multiple IP addresses.  I'm sorry if that means that some users with unusual access patterns have also been affected.

If you email the support address (found at towards the bottom of the FAQ tab) I'm sure we can sort this out for you.

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