Just-Dice.com : now with added CLAMs : Play or Invest

[nimda]

why does the investor divest his BTC but then doesn´t withdraw them from just-dice?

Because he is me.  Where would I withdraw them to?  A cold wallet?  They're already in my cold wallet.

Good to know you have that much confidence in your own system

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[dooglus]

Where would I withdraw them to?  A cold wallet?  They're already in my cold wallet.

Good to know you have that much confidence in your own system

Not sure if sarcastic.

Maybe you mean I should have them invested if I trust the site.  If so, I just don't always want the variance, and am happy to just take the 10% commission each week.

Or maybe you mean that it's good to know that I trust the JD cold wallet system as much as I trust some hypothetical other cold wallet system that I might keep other coins in?  Like BayAreaCoins said, Just-Dice is a good web wallet.  And since I don't have to worry about the risk of the operator absconding with the coins, it's even better for me.  It means all my coins are safe (in the JD cold wallet), but also available to withdraw at no notice (from the JD hot wallet).

[nimda]

Where would I withdraw them to?  A cold wallet?  They're already in my cold wallet.

Good to know you have that much confidence in your own system

Not sure if sarcastic.

Maybe you mean I should have them invested if I trust the site.  If so, I just don't always want the variance, and am happy to just take the 10% commission each week.

Or maybe you mean that it's good to know that I trust the JD cold wallet system as much as I trust some hypothetical other cold wallet system that I might keep other coins in?  Like BayAreaCoins said, Just-Dice is a good web wallet.  And since I don't have to worry about the risk of the operator absconding with the coins, it's even better for me.  It means all my coins are safe (in the JD cold wallet), but also available to withdraw at no notice (from the JD hot wallet).

Not sarcastic. I doubt, for example, that Tradefortress kept all his coins in Input.io's wallet, and that too was supposedly a hot+cold wallet system.

[dooglus]

Not sarcastic. I doubt, for example, that Tradefortress kept all his coins in Input.io's wallet, and that too was supposedly a hot+cold wallet system.

Didn't Tradefortress's cold wallet "leak" much like MtGox's?  I don't know how this happens, other than if the cold wallet was a lie in the first place.

JD's is real, and is as secure as any cold wallet solution I could come up with for my own coins.

[El Cabron]

I fail so hard at this game 

[BayAreaCoins]

I fail so hard at this game 

I found I'm a much better investor than a gambler. 90% + bets have raped me a bit!

[El Cabron]

I fail so hard at this game 

I found I'm a much better investor than a gambler. 90% + bets have raped me a bit!

i lost 50 btc in 11 seconds :/

[waqas]

I fail so hard at this game 

I found I'm a much better investor than a gambler. 90% + bets have raped me a bit!

i lost 50 btc in 11 seconds :/

I invested some coins but came out with lost because after my investment Nakowa do some big disinvestment and I lost after this I never invest in any bitcoin site 

[KingOfSports]

Hi dooglus how you been?

[seuntjie]

I just want to post that I am glad I wasnt waiting around on an API being made for the site. Still shows the same coming soon from nearly a year ago.

What did you do since there isn't an api? did you get a work around or dropped whatever project you were working on?

[starsoccer9]

I just want to post that I am glad I wasnt waiting around on an API being made for the site. Still shows the same coming soon from nearly a year ago.

What did you do since there isn't an api? did you get a work around or dropped whatever project you were working on?

No I just ended up not making it.

[dooglus]

I invested some coins but came out with lost because after my investment Nakowa do some big disinvestment and I lost after this I never invest in any bitcoin site  

Here's a list of weekly returns for investors, along with a cumulative 'return so far' week by week.  All numbers are after commission was taken, so if you invested on the first day you would be looking at a real gain of 39.59% overall:

Jun 20 2013     0.00%   100.00%
Jun 24 2013     2.53%   102.53%
Jul  1 2013    -0.49%   102.02%
Jul  8 2013     6.29%   108.44%
Jul 15 2013    -8.30%    99.44%
Jul 22 2013     2.55%   101.98%
Jul 29 2013     7.56%   109.69%
Aug  5 2013     1.69%   111.55%
Aug 12 2013     3.33%   115.26%
Aug 19 2013     1.88%   117.43%
Aug 26 2013     0.34%   117.83%
Sep  2 2013     0.59%   118.52%
Sep  9 2013     0.69%   119.35%
Sep 16 2013     0.50%   119.94%
Sep 23 2013   -14.26%   102.84%
Sep 30 2013   -12.66%    89.82%
Oct  7 2013     7.69%    96.73%
Oct 14 2013     7.09%   103.59%
Oct 21 2013     0.74%   104.35%
Oct 28 2013     1.68%   106.11%
Nov  4 2013     1.04%   107.21%
Nov 11 2013     0.77%   108.03%
Nov 18 2013     2.40%   110.63%
Nov 25 2013    -0.10%   110.53%
Dec  2 2013     0.59%   111.18%
Dec  9 2013    -0.66%   110.44%
Dec 16 2013     6.12%   117.20%
Dec 23 2013     0.37%   117.63%
Dec 30 2013    -2.46%   114.73%
Jan  6 2014    -1.84%   112.63%
Jan 13 2014     7.82%   121.44%
Jan 20 2014    -0.15%   121.26%
Jan 27 2014     2.12%   123.83%
Feb  3 2014     0.52%   124.47%
Feb 10 2014     0.62%   125.23%
Feb 17 2014     2.96%   128.94%
Feb 24 2014     0.42%   129.48%
Mar  3 2014    -0.71%   128.56%
Mar 10 2014    -0.14%   128.38%
Mar 17 2014     0.41%   128.91%
Mar 24 2014     0.80%   129.94%
Mar 31 2014     0.79%   130.97%
Apr  7 2014     1.35%   132.73%
Apr 14 2014     0.90%   133.93%
Apr 21 2014     1.01%   135.28%
Apr 28 2014     0.85%   136.43%
May  5 2014     0.56%   137.20%
May 12 2014     0.32%   137.63%
May 19 2014     1.05%   139.07%

May 25 2014     0.37%   139.59%

The last line is this week so far, and so is subject to change, since there's another hour and a bit three and a bit hours left of this week.

If you invested at the highest point before nakowa's big hit (Sep 16 2013) then you wouldn't have regained your losses until around Jan 13 2014.

Edit: and since whenever I show people this they ask "what about Doge-Dice?", here are the figures for Doge-Dice:

Dec 17 2013     0.00%   100.00%
Dec 23 2013    19.26%   119.26%
Dec 30 2013     4.38%   124.48%
Jan  6 2014     3.95%   129.40%
Jan 13 2014    -5.39%   122.43%
Jan 20 2014    11.58%   136.61%
Jan 27 2014    -1.42%   134.67%
Feb  3 2014     1.26%   136.36%
Feb 10 2014     3.67%   141.37%
Feb 17 2014     3.93%   146.93%
Feb 24 2014     0.53%   147.71%
Mar  3 2014     0.80%   148.89%
Mar 10 2014     3.51%   154.11%
Mar 17 2014     0.32%   154.61%
Mar 24 2014     0.53%   155.43%
Mar 31 2014     0.73%   156.57%
Apr  7 2014     2.02%   159.73%
Apr 14 2014     1.39%   161.94%
Apr 21 2014     1.80%   164.85%
Apr 28 2014     0.13%   165.07%
May  5 2014     1.14%   166.96%
May 12 2014     2.07%   170.42%
May 19 2014     3.42%   176.25%

May 25 2014     0.84%   177.74%

Much better returns, in a much shorter time.  I guess the kind of people who have dogecoins are more into gambling than investing...

Edit2: side-by-side comparison:

       just-dice.com
        -------------

Jun 20 2013     0.00%   100.00%
Jun 24 2013     2.53%   102.53%
Jul  1 2013    -0.49%   102.02%
Jul  8 2013     6.29%   108.44%
Jul 15 2013    -8.30%    99.44%
Jul 22 2013     2.55%   101.98%
Jul 29 2013     7.56%   109.69%
Aug  5 2013     1.69%   111.55%
Aug 12 2013     3.33%   115.26%
Aug 19 2013     1.88%   117.43%
Aug 26 2013     0.34%   117.83%
Sep  2 2013     0.59%   118.52%
Sep  9 2013     0.69%   119.35%
Sep 16 2013     0.50%   119.94%
Sep 23 2013   -14.26%   102.84%
Sep 30 2013   -12.66%    89.82%
Oct  7 2013     7.69%    96.73%
Oct 14 2013     7.09%   103.59%
Oct 21 2013     0.74%   104.35%
Oct 28 2013     1.68%   106.11%
Nov  4 2013     1.04%   107.21%
Nov 11 2013     0.77%   108.03%
Nov 18 2013     2.40%   110.63%
Nov 25 2013    -0.10%   110.53%                 doge-dice.com
Dec  2 2013     0.59%   111.18%                 -------------
Dec  9 2013    -0.66%   110.44%        
Dec 16 2013     6.12%   117.20%         Dec 17 2013     0.00%   100.00%
Dec 23 2013     0.37%   117.63%         Dec 23 2013    19.26%   119.26%
Dec 30 2013    -2.46%   114.73%         Dec 30 2013     4.38%   124.48%
Jan  6 2014    -1.84%   112.63%         Jan  6 2014     3.95%   129.40%
Jan 13 2014     7.82%   121.44%         Jan 13 2014    -5.39%   122.43%
Jan 20 2014    -0.15%   121.26%         Jan 20 2014    11.58%   136.61%
Jan 27 2014     2.12%   123.83%         Jan 27 2014    -1.42%   134.67%
Feb  3 2014     0.52%   124.47%         Feb  3 2014     1.26%   136.36%
Feb 10 2014     0.62%   125.23%         Feb 10 2014     3.67%   141.37%
Feb 17 2014     2.96%   128.94%         Feb 17 2014     3.93%   146.93%
Feb 24 2014     0.42%   129.48%         Feb 24 2014     0.53%   147.71%
Mar  3 2014    -0.71%   128.56%         Mar  3 2014     0.80%   148.89%
Mar 10 2014    -0.14%   128.38%         Mar 10 2014     3.51%   154.11%
Mar 17 2014     0.41%   128.91%         Mar 17 2014     0.32%   154.61%
Mar 24 2014     0.80%   129.94%         Mar 24 2014     0.53%   155.43%
Mar 31 2014     0.79%   130.97%         Mar 31 2014     0.73%   156.57%
Apr  7 2014     1.35%   132.73%         Apr  7 2014     2.02%   159.73%
Apr 14 2014     0.90%   133.93%         Apr 14 2014     1.39%   161.94%
Apr 21 2014     1.01%   135.28%         Apr 21 2014     1.80%   164.85%
Apr 28 2014     0.85%   136.43%         Apr 28 2014     0.13%   165.07%
May  5 2014     0.56%   137.20%         May  5 2014     1.14%   166.96%
May 12 2014     0.32%   137.63%         May 12 2014     2.07%   170.42%
May 19 2014     1.05%   139.07%         May 19 2014     3.42%   176.25%
                                                                      
May 25 2014     0.37%   139.59%         May 25 2014     0.84%   177.74%

[dooglus]

I fail so hard at this game 

I found I'm a much better investor than a gambler. 90% + bets have raped me a bit!

i lost 50 btc in 11 seconds :/

That profit chart in full (including your previous visit):

[seuntjie]

I just want to post that I am glad I wasnt waiting around on an API being made for the site. Still shows the same coming soon from nearly a year ago.

What did you do since there isn't an api? did you get a work around or dropped whatever project you were working on?

No I just ended up not making it.

If you still want to and don't mind .NET, have a look at https://github.com/seuntie900/jdcapi

Not official, but works well enough, just ask SeuntjieBot

[El Cabron]

I fail so hard at this game 

I found I'm a much better investor than a gambler. 90% + bets have raped me a bit!

i lost 50 btc in 11 seconds :/

That profit chart in full (including your previous visit):

like i said, i fail hard at this game.

[dooglus]

like i said, i fail hard at this game.

I expect you just need practice. 

[El Cabron]

like i said, i fail hard at this game.

I expect you just need practice. 

ha, nice try. i understand probability as good as anyone.

despite my loss, its a very easy game to play. much better and more fun than any of the other options i have tried.

still they refuse to give me a steak dinner despite losing $28,000 in 11 seconds (not to mention the other 200 btc!). 

[BayAreaCoins]

I fail so hard at this game  

I found I'm a much better investor than a gambler. 90% + bets have raped me a bit!

i lost 50 btc in 11 seconds :/

I invested some coins but came out with lost because after my investment Nakowa do some big disinvestment and I lost after this I never invest in any bitcoin site  

if you are interested in selling your negative investing account please contact me.

Edit:

Negative on the investing side.

[ruru]

like i said, i fail hard at this game.

I expect you just need practice. 

ha, nice try. i understand probability as good as anyone.

despite my loss, its a very easy game to play. much better and more fun than any of the other options i have tried.

still they refuse to give me a steak dinner despite losing $28,000 in 11 seconds (not to mention the other 200 btc!). 

I'll comp you a meal if you visit Vancouver.

I've done it for a gambler who busted here before! Gave them a really nice omakase dinner.

[El Cabron]

I fail so hard at this game 

I found I'm a much better investor than a gambler. 90% + bets have raped me a bit!

i lost 50 btc in 11 seconds :/

I invested some coins but came out with lost because after my investment Nakowa do some big disinvestment and I lost after this I never invest in any bitcoin site 

if you are interested in selling your negative investing account please contact me.

why is it worth anything?