BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)

[fahq420]

I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but I appear to be getting a...surprisingly large number of block rewards today from the pool. Like, nearly constant. Why would it be just me?

I think you are the guy that keeps solving the heat mined blocks as soon as they are over 15 minutes old.

Right...but unless I'm the only guy mining, why would it always be me that solves the block? You would imagine the same distribution of rewards, just spaced out, right? Like, if there were 50 people mining with similar power, than we should each have a 1/50 chance of getting the block reward. I've got to be missing something here, just can't figure out what.

do getmininginfo and see if u are on a pool. you could be like me the other day, and be solo mining a "fork" and not really be earning coins.

[capulo]

because he need only 23 430 294 to have 100%

[slovakia]

capulo  1,301,683 * 20 = 26 033 660 he needs for UTXO=100%  

[dave_bbp]

I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but I appear to be getting a...surprisingly large number of block rewards today from the pool. Like, nearly constant. Why would it be just me?

I think you are the guy that keeps solving the heat mined blocks as soon as they are over 15 minutes old.

Right...but unless I'm the only guy mining, why would it always be me that solves the block? You would imagine the same distribution of rewards, just spaced out, right? Like, if there were 50 people mining with similar power, than we should each have a 1/50 chance of getting the block reward. I've got to be missing something here, just can't figure out what.

do getmininginfo and see if u are on a pool. you could be like me the other day, and be solo mining a "fork" and not really be earning coins.

No, he's definitely on the pool getting every single block so far.

@Nox: I think there's definitely something wrong, since you are also the only user who has a "Hashes per second" value and no "CPID_HAS_NO_MAGNITUDE" in the leaderboard, which you "shouldn't" have today.

[616westwarmoth]

why is UTXO of BBP user still 100% when his RAC is 1,301,683 ans staked 23 529 809 BBP

https://www.biblepay-central.org/en/podc/user/1995180/

dont understand

Because the system rounds 5% or less of UTXO down to 0%, and rounds the rest up to the next 10%.  So to get 100% UTXO you need 20 BBP * RAC * .901.  In User BBP's case that would mean 1,301,683 * 20 * .901 = 23,456,327.66.

This has been discussed repeatedly, and while I personally think the system needs tweaked just a bit, that is the way it is currently coded to work and has been since PoDC Staking began.

[afeno]

If there was no PODC payment today, magnitude is 0, and we are not able mine until next PODC payment. Am I right?
If yes, can we change this rule to check weekly magnitude? thanks.

Ok. I understand now why the blocks were produced so slow... Same for the pool Shares that went drastically down today.

[fjavi]

In this week's list for delisted coins in C-Cex due to lack of volume I see Gridcoin, the one that competes with us in R@H.

True, but I see that Gridcoins Daily Exchange volume is $175,432 on the other exchanges, so whatever you are implying about our highest competitor being feeble is FUD.

Apparently all that is happening is people prefer to trade GRC on other exchanges.

No second intentions, I knew GRC was in C-Cex for long so this caught my eye. But it's logical that if they move along to bigger exchanges, the smaller ones see liquidity fly.

[jaapgvk]

My wallet won't send PODC-updates anymore:

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What does the 'not equal 1000 biblepay' bit mean? I don't think I saw it anywhere else before.

The only thing that changed, is that I started a masternode yesterday in the same wallet that I use for PODC. But I have done the same in the past without problems?

I'm not sure what the 'not equal 1000 biblepay' bit is (I couldn't see that in your output), unless it is an unchanged message relating to the Sanctuary reserved balance (many coins use 1000 coins for masternodes, whereas it is 1,550,001 Biblepay that you'd have needed to send to send to a separate wallet address to start a Sanctuary).  I wonder if this also sent your remaining balance to a 'change' address, so none of your balance is old enough for the PODC update to consider using it now?

It might be better to run a separate wallet for the Sanctuary balance to the PODC one.

Sorry, just saw your post. I accidentally used ctrl-x instead of ctrl-c, so I deleted that bit in the output. It should have said:
"Unable to locate enough funds for this transaction that are not equal 1000 biblepay"

Rob explained that is was indeed the 1000 most coins use for masternodes, and it indeed should be 1550001.

Having said that: the situation seems to be okay again, because the wallet just sent an update a block ago

There were enough change-addresses that were several days old worth tens of thousands of BBP, so the wallet would have been able to send something.

[dave_bbp]

I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but I appear to be getting a...surprisingly large number of block rewards today from the pool. Like, nearly constant. Why would it be just me?

I think you are the guy that keeps solving the heat mined blocks as soon as they are over 15 minutes old.

Right...but unless I'm the only guy mining, why would it always be me that solves the block? You would imagine the same distribution of rewards, just spaced out, right? Like, if there were 50 people mining with similar power, than we should each have a 1/50 chance of getting the block reward. I've got to be missing something here, just can't figure out what.

do getmininginfo and see if u are on a pool. you could be like me the other day, and be solo mining a "fork" and not really be earning coins.

No, he's definitely on the pool getting every single block so far.

@Nox: I think there's definitely something wrong, since you are also the only user who has a "Hashes per second" value and no "CPID_HAS_NO_MAGNITUDE" in the leaderboard, which you "shouldn't" have today.

I'm king of the world!

What's even more strange: judging by the block history you are NOT the miner who found all the blocks, however you keep getting every reward of every block, which is approx. 1/5 of the whole output today. oO

Congratz dude!

[noxpost]

Moving on from my surprising good fortune, let me ask the group a different question - how should the P2P budget be spent? What kind of things would the community really support? I can think of lots of BiblePay PR activities that would be voted "yes" on, but the P2P seems to be a more grey area. There are a few things I can imagine, but I'm not sure what the community thinks of when they think P2P. Any thoughts?

[Fishnandy]

Hi Rob
Just had a look at the out going letters list and it seems that people are just copy and pasting my original letter
My user name on pool is fishnandy and the copies are from “Kaso, jaufi and sena”
Not sure if we can ban those users from pool?

[bible_pay]

Hi Rob
Just had a look at the out going letters list and it seems that people are just copy and pasting my original letter
My user name on pool is fishnandy and the copies are from “Kaso, jaufi and sena”
Not sure if we can ban those users from pool?

Thank you Fish!  I will look into this, they never quit...

[haladez]

Because the system rounds 5% or less of UTXO down to 0%, and rounds the rest up to the next 10%.  So to get 100% UTXO you need 20 BBP * RAC * .901.  In User BBP's case that would mean 1,301,683 * 20 * .901 = 23,456,327.66.

This has been discussed repeatedly, and while I personally think the system needs tweaked just a bit, that is the way it is currently coded to work and has been since PoDC Staking began.

I think we should make the steps smaller, like every 1 or 2%.

That way you can get (tiny) rewards with little amounts of BBP and yet require more than 90.1% to get the full reward, in this case 99.1%

[bible_pay]

After testing here are my R@h and WCG results (taken from the Projects tab of BOINC...which express all the totals as Host Average Credit which are pretty much on target with http://stats.free-dc.org, which lags about 12 hours behind).

All are identical servers at the same physical location, with roughly the same uptimes in their respective groupings.  They aren't at their maximum RAC but have run for 8 days in the first grouping and 5 days in the second grouping which should minimize the statistical variation.

First Grouping:
68 6431 WCG
70 7257 R@h
72 7642 R@h
73 6424 WCG

Second Grouping:
74 5605 R@h
75 5115 WCG

This means the average First Grouping R@h is 7449, and WCG is 6427, meaning a 15% edge to R@h, the second grouping gives a 10% edge to R@h. 

I just started one that is 50% WCG and 50% R@h which would have been a better test subject from the get go but won't have meaningful data anytime soon.

Based on that data which I feel is statistically significant, our 1.5 multiplier for WCG is too high despite what my previous research had implied, which is a shame as I personally like that project better.  My feeling is we need to reduce the multiplier as soon as feasible to between 10% (1.1 multiplier) and 15% (1.15 multiplier) to equalize the difficulty with the 15% (1.15) equalization seeming at this point to be the more equitable factor.

Hmmm - there is still something preventing us from reconciling this situation though.

I committed two identical servers to this ( 6 core amds with the same single SSD in each one, they are about 4 years old) and both have win7, and both are only running boinc. 

My RAH server has settled down with 4500 RAC, my WCG server has settled down with 3200 RAC (this is a factor of 1.40 for WCG at this point) - close to our 1.50 prod setting.


So I wanted to point out, when I started this test, I deliberately went into my WCG Web settings, and selected All projects (I checked every box).  First question:  Are you running all WCG project or just the defaults?  (Right now its running Mapping Cancer markers and Fight Aids for example).

[slovakia]

my  long-term test (30days) on RAH vs WCG

RAH  Ryzen 1700+24GB DDR4 (90% using)=  7900
WCG Ryzen 1700+24GB DDR4 (90% using)=  4100

RAH  Xeon 5650 16GB RAM DDR3 (loading full 100%)=  11900
WCG Xeon 5650 16GB RAM DDR3 (loading full 100%)=    5950

i hope that help this anybody

[coinsinspect]

my  long-term test (30days) on RAH vs WCG

RAH  Ryzen 1700+24GB DDR4 (90% using)=  7900
WCG Ryzen 1700+24GB DDR4 (90% using)=  4100

RAH  Xeon 5650 16GB RAM DDR3 (loading full 100%)=  11900
WCG Xeon 5650 16GB RAM DDR3 (loading full 100%)=    5950

i hope that help this anybody

My test is also like slovakia : ~ 1.9, running all projects

By the, way when running "exec getboincinfo" , I am getting  this today :

WCGRAC": 0,

Is something wrong today ?

[Gherindra]

I think a project like Biblepay will not be difficult when doing marketing, which means the project is likely to succeed. Because there are still many people who think that his religion is strong. And if the note of the roadmap plan, one by one plan succeed, even the month of september has succeeded 50%. Very cool.

[bible_pay]

my  long-term test (30days) on RAH vs WCG

RAH  Ryzen 1700+24GB DDR4 (90% using)=  7900
WCG Ryzen 1700+24GB DDR4 (90% using)=  4100

RAH  Xeon 5650 16GB RAM DDR3 (loading full 100%)=  11900
WCG Xeon 5650 16GB RAM DDR3 (loading full 100%)=    5950

i hope that help this anybody

My test is also like slovakia : ~ 1.9, running all projects

By the, way when running "exec getboincinfo" , I am getting  this today :

WCGRAC": 0,

Is something wrong today ?

Whats the cpid, Ill check?

[bible_pay]

Whats the cpid, Ill check?

"CPID": "02b8ebdf635b70b734e1c50239ee8dfe",

Do you have a sanc?  Your not in the SAN\user2 dump file from WCG.   

However looking at your WCG credits and team and start date you look fine:
http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/e107_plugins/boinc/get_user.php?cpid=02b8ebdf635b70b734e1c50239ee8dfe

So something is strange here, I have never seen this happen, unless you made a change within the last 24 hours to wcg.  Did you quit the team or edit your email in the last 24 hours? And then fix it?

[coinsinspect]

So something is strange here, I have never seen this happen, unless you made a change within the last 24 hours to wcg.  Did you quit the team or edit your email in the last 24 hours? And then fix it?

I don't have a sanc.
Didn't change anything on my system, it is running without changes, since I upgraded to 1.1.2.4 (as soon as it was released)
This zero WCG happens only today.

I looked at web site of Rosetta and WCG just now : its the same