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Author Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)  (Read 243373 times)
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July 11, 2018, 04:35:55 PM
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We are less than 80 blocks away from the mandatory upgrade. From my amateur view on the explorer it seems like the majority of the network is still on old versions (mostly 1.1.2.x). Even the main pool is still running 1.1.2.2. Is this gonna be a problem? I mean as long as the sanctuaries are on the new version the whole system should be fine, right? People mining on a fork will (hopefully) sooner or later realize it and upgrade too...
80? we are still over 300 blocks what i see


 "Version": "Popularity,Percent %",
  "1.1.2.4": "4; 1.95%",
  "1.1.2.7": "1; 0.49%",
  "1.1.3.1": "5; 2.44%",
  "1.1.3.3": "1; 0.49%",
  "1.1.3.6": "8; 3.90%",
  "1.1.3.8": "186; 90.73%"


we cant wait for CCEX  Huh

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July 11, 2018, 04:36:38 PM
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We are less than 80 blocks away from the mandatory upgrade. From my amateur view on the explorer it seems like the majority of the network is still on old versions (mostly 1.1.2.x). Even the main pool is still running 1.1.2.2. Is this gonna be a problem? I mean as long as the sanctuaries are on the new version the whole system should be fine, right? People mining on a fork will (hopefully) sooner or later realize it and upgrade too...
80? we are still over 300 blocks what i see

Were @ 57644, 56 blocks away.

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July 11, 2018, 04:37:51 PM
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ups .-... my fault Rob 57 700 sry

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July 11, 2018, 05:01:28 PM
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We are less than 80 blocks away from the mandatory upgrade. From my amateur view on the explorer it seems like the majority of the network is still on old versions (mostly 1.1.2.x). Even the main pool is still running 1.1.2.2. Is this gonna be a problem? I mean as long as the sanctuaries are on the new version the whole system should be fine, right? People mining on a fork will (hopefully) sooner or later realize it and upgrade too...

Pool is upgraded; and I'm seeing that 90.5% have already upgraded to the new version (1.1.3.Cool-
(exec versionreport)

However, I am worried about C-CEX.  They still haven't put us in maintenance so we are going on a fork if we cant get through to them.
The primary risk is people will try to make deposits to old BBP addresses on a fork, and we can't risk that.

In this case it's not our fault as we gave the full 10 day notice.

But I'd rather not have an issue.....


EDIT:  SouthExchange has upgraded.  QIEX has upgraded.

Awesome, nice work! Smiley

btw: I also read some other coins' threads and it seems like there's a lot of people who think that SouthExchange is a great exchange and no one really knows why they are so "unpopular" volume wise. I think (or I hope) it will get more popular in the upcoming months.

C-CEX on the other hand seems to keep annoying more and more people.
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July 11, 2018, 06:17:28 PM
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I am just checking the machine leadboard and find something interesting:

manasd   27315.81   7/9/2018 6:06:42 AM   3391974   89828.89   GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1620 @ 2.70GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]   1994560   2   8151.14 MB   3282.09   0.8   27.31581   1.312836

For this slow machine with 2 core, how could he achieve such a high RAC? Is there any trick we do not know?

GPU for rosetta?
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July 11, 2018, 06:20:12 PM
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Does anyone have trouble using InstantSend on 1.1.3.8c? I tried to send different amounts of 100, 1000, and even 10,000, but it keeps throwing an error saying that Instantsend only supports up to 500,000 BBP. Just noticed it after I upgraded from 1.1.2.4.
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July 11, 2018, 06:48:23 PM
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I am just checking the machine leadboard and find something interesting:

manasd   27315.81   7/9/2018 6:06:42 AM   3391974   89828.89   GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1620 @ 2.70GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]   1994560   2   8151.14 MB   3282.09   0.8   27.31581   1.312836

For this slow machine with 2 core, how could he achieve such a high RAC? Is there any trick we do not know?

GPU for rosetta?

[6] AMD AMD Radeon (TM) R9 380 Series (4096MB) OpenCL: 2.0

It would appear that way.
edit: seems they abandoned the project
https://biblepay-central.org/en/podc/user/1994560/
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July 11, 2018, 07:17:34 PM
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Is anyone else going to the blockchain world conference tomorrow/Friday in Atlantic City, NJ?  Maybe we could hold a meetup.
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July 11, 2018, 07:26:43 PM
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Does anyone have trouble using InstantSend on 1.1.3.8c? I tried to send different amounts of 100, 1000, and even 10,000, but it keeps throwing an error saying that Instantsend only supports up to 500,000 BBP. Just noticed it after I upgraded from 1.1.2.4.
I did have a problem with it, yes - but I didn't report it as I couldn't reproduce it.

I could InstantSend 50,000 and 100,000 BBP, but not 200,000 or 300,00.

However, I think (not sure, but think) that the message was just misleading, and it was probably because I didn't have all of the funds sitting in the same address first. I was able to do instantsend of 100,000 -> 100,000 -> 50,000 -> 50,000 but that was the only way I could get it to work. Every other attempt threw the error you described.
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July 11, 2018, 07:52:12 PM
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I am just checking the machine leadboard and find something interesting:

manasd   27315.81   7/9/2018 6:06:42 AM   3391974   89828.89   GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1620 @ 2.70GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]   1994560   2   8151.14 MB   3282.09   0.8   27.31581   1.312836

For this slow machine with 2 core, how could he achieve such a high RAC? Is there any trick we do not know?

GPU for rosetta?

I firmly believe its impossible to have any GPUs out there for rosetta.  One its public info to see which platforms they compile for and they dont offer a GPU option, two I read all the threads when we were working on PODC, and the users and scientists say that the code is too complicated to port to GPUs (because of the proprietary libs that dont have low level C libs available for GPUs, these are CPU libs), and three, you can see this is true by looking at the Rosetta Commons user manual, I dont have a link on hand, but it does appear to back up what they are saying in the boinc forums.

On manasd, he has 18 machines and 38 procs, with a rac of 89828.  To figure this out you would have to click on all his 18 machines.  This one might not be representative to his full account.


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July 11, 2018, 07:52:59 PM
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Does anyone have trouble using InstantSend on 1.1.3.8c? I tried to send different amounts of 100, 1000, and even 10,000, but it keeps throwing an error saying that Instantsend only supports up to 500,000 BBP. Just noticed it after I upgraded from 1.1.2.4.
I did have a problem with it, yes - but I didn't report it as I couldn't reproduce it.

I could InstantSend 50,000 and 100,000 BBP, but not 200,000 or 300,00.

However, I think (not sure, but think) that the message was just misleading, and it was probably because I didn't have all of the funds sitting in the same address first. I was able to do instantsend of 100,000 -> 100,000 -> 50,000 -> 50,000 but that was the only way I could get it to work. Every other attempt threw the error you described.

The message is a bit ambigious.

To solve it, please go into coin control and manually select coin inputs less than 500,000, then re-send Smiley.


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July 11, 2018, 07:58:40 PM
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Alright Im synced on Crypto-Bridge desktop windows client, anticipating the big moment.

Right now this platform looks very impressive to me, I am not seeing latency, I am seeing snappy response and blocks clicking by once every 5 seconds ( I guess they have 5 second blocks, with 28 million blocks already).  This is an impressive feat to design a decentralized exchange that actually works.

It makes sense to charge for cancelled orders as that takes network work, but I see MIPs point that they could charge more for the order and zero for the cancel, but its still pretty interesting how they broke the exchanges individual activities down to small units of decentralized work.

Any update on when we are going live?  I assume any day now.

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July 11, 2018, 08:00:49 PM
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However, I am worried about C-CEX.  They still haven't put us in maintenance so we are going on a fork if we cant get through to them.
The primary risk is people will try to make deposits to old BBP addresses on a fork, and we can't risk that.


I noticed that C-CEX is stuck on block 57039. Or at least this is what the show on the top-right small BBP windows.
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July 11, 2018, 08:03:31 PM
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Does anyone have trouble using InstantSend on 1.1.3.8c? I tried to send different amounts of 100, 1000, and even 10,000, but it keeps throwing an error saying that Instantsend only supports up to 500,000 BBP. Just noticed it after I upgraded from 1.1.2.4.
I did have a problem with it, yes - but I didn't report it as I couldn't reproduce it.

I could InstantSend 50,000 and 100,000 BBP, but not 200,000 or 300,00.

However, I think (not sure, but think) that the message was just misleading, and it was probably because I didn't have all of the funds sitting in the same address first. I was able to do instantsend of 100,000 -> 100,000 -> 50,000 -> 50,000 but that was the only way I could get it to work. Every other attempt threw the error you described.

The message is a bit ambigious.

To solve it, please go into coin control and manually select coin inputs less than 500,000, then re-send Smiley.



Yeah, that makes sense. I did a consolidation transaction (like I was going to fund a new masternode) afterwards and also restarted the wallet and my next instantsend was fine. Bad experimentation on my part to not isolate the changes, but I can 100% believe this was a coin control issue. Thanks.
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July 11, 2018, 08:57:09 PM
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However, I am worried about C-CEX.  They still haven't put us in maintenance so we are going on a fork if we cant get through to them.
The primary risk is people will try to make deposits to old BBP addresses on a fork, and we can't risk that.


I noticed that C-CEX is stuck on block 57039. Or at least this is what the show on the top-right small BBP windows.

I noticed that block # is always behind, but lets see if it stays @ 57039 for hours.  Maybe they put us in maintenance and we dont know it.

Ill try sending some BBP now...

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July 11, 2018, 09:25:55 PM
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I tried some time ago. 15 confirmations so far and it didn't even show up at C-CEX.
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July 11, 2018, 09:52:23 PM
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Seems I have a few clients stuck at loading "additional data" 100%. after restart
I deleted the gobjects.dat, heres the debug log

edit: finally got through but took a long time...

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2018-07-11 21:43:13 CGovernance::CheckSignature -- VerifyMessage() failed, error: Keys don't match: pubkey=65a76af934a1404940b78890b3a731e75e36939f, pubkeyFromSig=3f46a0334a70aad58e90b4c8c15020340949522e, strMessage=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000|1|1531239262|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2018-07-11 21:43:13 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Governance object is invalid - Invalid masternode signature for: e0a274f5a54a54dbbdd73a44d50a00de6fa0f9e4a69e7df38e78740c7c5c860e-1, pubkey id = 65a76af934a1404940b78890b3a731e75e36939f
2018-07-11 21:43:13 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Received unrequested object: 5df005480cd129bbe7c80843839172320758743358bb333d5123c498af98c9e8
2018-07-11 21:43:14 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Received unrequested object: 0a22d45ead3bf076df6f765bf82b7ec8d7fe735b735ec19e49d8ddbc048434e3
2018-07-11 21:43:14 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Received unrequested object: 0a02f5e8512dbac77d8c6bcddff23154b38429247b92386d2efce806aa1778e3
2018-07-11 21:43:14 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Received unrequested object: 87477f4c6e83ca20585a5d1018e561a17078e9e32d4e9028e74d9beeaf3192e3
2018-07-11 21:43:14 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Received unrequested object: 3320005589d8380493eda6da52c124d35194c474e214ba53a058d8b21575a6e3
2018-07-11 21:43:14 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Received unrequested object: 90f66eaa3de1df0c195b85551e30df2575ca3c391deef34d6bc4e31ea882c1e3
2018-07-11 21:43:14 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Received unrequested object: 65fc7127a2506d02757fd529decc8a158b6b8816b63120d732a5e9a1827e72e4
2018-07-11 21:43:14 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Received unrequested object: 64452a95e5e03104e3ca8c8c9f34a4b1b525eb4ab4ba869ae50977aee233e4e4
2018-07-11 21:43:14 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Received unrequested object: 64901529e0fcb17c72186c3159b974afbfd34d092fcc853bcd7489f59ee488e5
2018-07-11 21:43:14 MNGOVERNANCEOBJECT -- Received unrequested object: bba8d79ba44a23bd944a5cba06fe22f8293d82d956f91185046ab09201d88ce5

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July 11, 2018, 10:05:45 PM
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I am just checking the machine leadboard and find something interesting:

manasd   27315.81   7/9/2018 6:06:42 AM   3391974   89828.89   GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1620 @ 2.70GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]   1994560   2   8151.14 MB   3282.09   0.8   27.31581   1.312836

For this slow machine with 2 core, how could he achieve such a high RAC? Is there any trick we do not know?

GPU for rosetta?

[6] AMD AMD Radeon (TM) R9 380 Series (4096MB) OpenCL: 2.0

It would appear that way.
edit: seems they abandoned the project
https://biblepay-central.org/en/podc/user/1994560/


I was wondering that quite some time ago, there were others too where the RAC didn't add up to the seemingly slow hardware. The solution however is quite simple: Rosetta (or BOINC) reads the hardware from system files. If you know where to look for it should be quite easy (especially under Linux) to edit those and write in any hardware you want. If then you copy-paste images of your whole installed operating system to your other machines it appears as if you have dozens of weak CPUs crunching a lot of RAC.

However, why you would go through all that trouble is beyond me...


on another note: Why was the wallet feature "memorize prayers AFTER wallet start" abandoned? I really liked that I didn't have to wait several minutes until the wallet was opened. Wink
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July 11, 2018, 10:28:51 PM
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I tried some time ago. 15 confirmations so far and it didn't even show up at C-CEX.

Me too - I sent 125 bbp 7 blocks ago and it did not confirm nor pop up - so it appears CCEX put us in maintenance, which is great, but I didnt receive a message.


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I am just checking the machine leadboard and find something interesting:

manasd   27315.81   7/9/2018 6:06:42 AM   3391974   89828.89   GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1620 @ 2.70GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]   1994560   2   8151.14 MB   3282.09   0.8   27.31581   1.312836

For this slow machine with 2 core, how could he achieve such a high RAC? Is there any trick we do not know?

GPU for rosetta?

[6] AMD AMD Radeon (TM) R9 380 Series (4096MB) OpenCL: 2.0

It would appear that way.
edit: seems they abandoned the project
https://biblepay-central.org/en/podc/user/1994560/


I was wondering that quite some time ago, there were others too where the RAC didn't add up to the seemingly slow hardware. The solution however is quite simple: Rosetta (or BOINC) reads the hardware from system files. If you know where to look for it should be quite easy (especially under Linux) to edit those and write in any hardware you want. If then you copy-paste images of your whole installed operating system to your other machines it appears as if you have dozens of weak CPUs crunching a lot of RAC.

However, why you would go through all that trouble is beyond me...


on another note: Why was the wallet feature "memorize prayers AFTER wallet start" abandoned? I really liked that I didn't have to wait several minutes until the wallet was opened. Wink


I like the background prayer load feature also.   The reason it was disabled is TheSnat had a couple instances of a 5+ minute loading time, and I got very nervous that we had a race condition so I disabled it.  You have to realize the feature is not just for prayers but also for PODC data, so its critical the wallet has it all in order before the chain finishes syncing...  So we will have to revisit this again and ensure there is really no race.  There is a pull we need from thesnat for the transaction list which confuses the issue (as the extra-long load started at the same time we added tx list filtering And background prayers), so we need to insert one fix at a time and verify it.


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