bholzer
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July 31, 2013, 10:35:21 AM |
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Let's go MEC!!! Been mining through the good and bad days! I'm committed as most of you are. Keep up the good work Kimoto!
I've seen you rocking MΣC at the multipool -- what is your MΣC address? I backed off mining MΣC yesterday and just traded in the junk I mined since then for MΣC -- I'll send a few your way for sticking with it.
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bholzer
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July 31, 2013, 11:43:35 AM |
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Sorry for essentially taking over this thread -- we should probably create a new one for general info/etc at some point now that this thing has derailed a bit. I had one last thought for the night on this topic:
I solo mined for 51 hours after the reward reduction at an average of 33,600 KH/s. In this span, I found 63 blocks...which is nearly 1/3 of all 125 coin blocks up until right now (even after I shut down all of my Megacoin miners almost a day ago.) I mined less than 8000 Megacoins in 51 hours @ 33.6 MH/s...which at current market value are worth roughly 1/2 BTC (or ~$55 USD.) It took 663 kilowatts of power to mine those 63 blocks; at my current power rate, that is a cost of $86.19 -- I ended up with a loss of over $30 during that span, I was frustrated that the difficulty still hadn't corrected itself, and I got the bonus of this ALIEN guy losing his shit when I posted about it -- not that great of a combo.
During the same span, I was mining Litecoins with the other half of my farm (split between 3 pools each with a 2% combined fee/donation) at an average of 34,000 KH/s. During those same 51 hours, I brought in 92.45 LTC. Based on current market value, that's about 2.7 BTC (or ~$300 USD.) It took 667 kilowatts of power on that half; at my current rate, this comes to $86.71 in power costs over that span. On the Litecoin side, I brought in over a $200 profit.
I lost out on roughly $250 USD by continuing to mine Megacoin for the 2 days following the reward reduction. Had I mined something even more profitable than Litecoin with my Megacoin miners (or used multipool/etc) the margin would grow even more. To make matters worse, the status of the network is still uncertain.
My point is this: If adjustments are not made to the calculation formula, the hash rate will just continue to fall, prolonging this situation even further even if the difficulty keeps trickling downward. Obviously I don't fully understand the calculations yet, and maybe this next retarget will get us where we need to be, but I somehow doubt it. We know that there is another reward reduction coming up 30 days after things are finally rolling again...and we can be almost certain this same situation will arise when that happens. Actually, it will likely be worse, as at the very least I'm going to have to step away next time...and at this point I've personally mined almost 1/3 of the blocks after the reduction. I cannot justify that much lost profit every 30 days...and we aren't even out of this rut yet so who knows how long it will last? Not to mention every time this happens people lose their confidence in the currency...meaning it will be harder and harder to build back value on the exchange (meaning less people mining/etc -- especially since the rewards are actually smaller.) As much as it's being downplayed, this is a serious issue.
I think the bottom line is that adjustments have to be made to guarantee this coin has a life beyond 2013...and they might as well be made right away. As it stands now, every reward reduction is going to be viewed as a giant cliff. I know I'm not going to be comfortable holding a large amount of Megacoins going into the next reward reduction if no changes are made to the calculations. It would be great if there was a way to offer incentives for people that keep mining and moving the network moving forward -- there are some dedicated guys mining away right now and getting totally screwed in the process...but they outlasted me and are pushing forward anyway. We can't count on this happening every single time (really, even this situation isn't acceptable.)
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A L I E N
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July 31, 2013, 04:30:07 PM |
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I have a new pool almost ready - total build of the pool software from ground up. I am working full time on it and should be ready within 7 days - its mostly finished but its always the last 10% that seems to take the longest . That is a nice looking pool! Look forward to seeing it completed. Is your block explorer down because you are working on this?
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shellbunner
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July 31, 2013, 04:38:00 PM |
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Let's go MEC!!! Been mining through the good and bad days! I'm committed as most of you are. Keep up the good work Kimoto!
I've seen you rocking MΣC at the multipool -- what is your MΣC address? I backed off mining MΣC yesterday and just traded in the junk I mined since then for MΣC -- I'll send a few your way for sticking with it. I don't feel comfortable taking MEC from you. I have plenty, and I'm just doing my part as you are, to help MEC get through this rough patch. Thanks for the offer and for helping get this resolved.
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shellbunner
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July 31, 2013, 04:39:13 PM |
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Another issue is the lack of dedicated Megacoin mining pools to spread things out -- the only (active) mining pool I am aware of was at multipool.us when the reward halving took place...and most people decided to just switch to the multipool port since they were already there.
I have a new pool almost ready - total build of the pool software from ground up. I am working full time on it and should be ready within 7 days - its mostly finished but its always the last 10% that seems to take the longest . Pool looks great. I may only have 3MH's, but count me in! Thanks for doing the hard work!
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Mike18feb
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July 31, 2013, 05:40:31 PM |
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I'm not mining anymore. In these situations my gpu is practicallly useless. Not sure it's even practical at "normal" high difficulties. But okay, I spent a lot of time and effort in this coin.
I do hope things work out pretty soon though. The current drop in value isn't good. I see larger and larger amounts of MΣC going away one lower price after another. I bought a few MΣC 3 weeks ago for 0.0006001 or so, and now we're heading that way again.
I'm not sure if another pool is helpful though if the current ones don't have miners, but fine, I can spent a bit of time if it helps.
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rapta
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August 01, 2013, 12:36:12 AM |
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Just added another mhash to MEC. Multipool up to 8mhash now.
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August 01, 2013, 01:01:57 AM |
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Just added another mhash to MEC. Multipool up to 8mhash now.
Yeah I put some hash on with Shell too. The difficulty is coming down and the blocks are going faster, Lets go!
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darkproton
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August 01, 2013, 01:30:48 AM |
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Just added another mhash to MEC. Multipool up to 8mhash now.
Yeah I put some hash on with Shell too. The difficulty is coming down and the blocks are going faster, Lets go! Great job guys!
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rapta
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August 01, 2013, 01:49:23 AM |
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Anyone have a working block explorer?
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rapta
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August 01, 2013, 02:06:47 AM |
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We need another 10mhash or so. Anyone have any to spare?
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rapta
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August 01, 2013, 02:08:28 AM |
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Alein you are rocking it. You found the last three blocks.
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portice
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August 01, 2013, 02:11:06 AM |
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Not even sure what you guys expected here really
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rapta
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August 01, 2013, 02:35:02 AM |
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18.5mhash and climbing!!
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rapta
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August 01, 2013, 02:36:45 AM |
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Down to 14 diff as well. Let's punch through these next 9 quick.
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shellbunner
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August 01, 2013, 02:41:36 AM |
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Thx guys for the help on the MEC Multipool. Rough week for MEC, but we're making slow and steady progress.
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August 01, 2013, 03:32:43 AM |
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Now will be the best time to buy MEC. The weak hands are finally able to panic sell as their transactions go through since we are solving blocks faster. Try to pick up some up if you can, I surely will. Kimoto is working on an adjustment to the difficulty algorithm but he wants to make sure it is not something that can be exploited. So he will take his time and do it right. Now that things are picking up with the network again, he has a month to perform proper testing and ensure that Megacoin will be better than ever.
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rapta
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August 01, 2013, 04:36:13 AM |
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Well said Alein.. also how lucky can you get??
42,223 1 _ALIEN_ 2013-07-31 23:29:56 42,222 2 _ALIEN_ 2013-07-31 23:28:25
LOL
Do that about 100 more times.
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gr33k
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August 01, 2013, 06:13:22 AM |
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I am having the same issue as MobGod during compiles - Ubuntu as well...but he's tested on multiple distros including Mint (I've been reading ) g++ -c -O2 -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/home/gr33k/megacoin-0.8.994-source/src -I/home/gr33k/megacoin-0.8.994-source/src/obj -DUSE_IPV6=1 -I/home/gr33k/megacoin-0.8.994-source/src/leveldb/include -I/home/gr33k/megacoin-0.8.994-source/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -MMD -MF obj/newsmessage.d -o obj/newsmessage.o newsmessage.cpp g++ -c -O2 -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/home/gr33k/megacoin-0.8.994-source/src -I/home/gr33k/megacoin-0.8.994-source/src/obj -DUSE_IPV6=1 -I/home/gr33k/megacoin-0.8.994-source/src/leveldb/include -I/home/gr33k/megacoin-0.8.994-source/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -MMD -MF obj/sendalert.d -o obj/sendalert.o sendalert.cpp sendalert.cpp: In member function ‘void CSendAlert::Test(std::string, std::string)’: sendalert.cpp:63:18: error: ‘Sleep’ was not declared in this scope make: *** [obj/sendalert.o] Error 1 make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs... ** I also see that we've been asking for fixed source code for a while - Any news or ETA? Thank you - I really like MEC and have the most coins mined for this one - I'd love to see it working. Trying to setup a mining pool with mmcfe-ng
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