[ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine

[jamboom]

Who is willing to waste time withdrawing 3 months to collect 1 dollar?
use the lignina segwit network on the website
so that all users can withdraw
every week

Withdraw system still need to be improved.
Please be patient, and no need to write in red, I'm able to read in grey.
Best regards!
Jam

[Thomasio]

Now this might be a rare question, because not many users will have a screen as big as mine, anyway, let me ask.
No matter how big I make the browser window, even in full screen view at resolution 3840x2160 I can't see the whole map, the subwindow of the map remains too small and I have to scroll around the map.
It even looks weird, because below the bottom of the map there remains a large part of the page blank, where there would be plenty of space to display the whole map.

On the other hand there's still the mobile issue, kinda the opposite of the above.
I've tried again today just out of curiosity logging in with my mobile and I can tell you, even IFFFFF this was working as it should, moving around in the map on a 6" screen would still be next to impossible, because if you enlarge the map to a size where you can see something, that's already so big that when you tap on a field the display of the blue mission subwindow exceeds the screen on all 4 sides and an attempt to scroll that subwindow doesn't scroll anything but closes it.

[KEY79]

moving the motion panel (for manual input of coordinates )on the world map from the upper left corner down is not a good idea, it has become very inconvenient in mobile phone or tablet.    pop-up keyboard interferes.

[icanhazcoinz]

Hey Jamboom...  In the process of trying to close all the popups, the game managed to steal 2 mining boosts from me.  Any chance of getting them back?  I had 103 to start with, tried to use 2 to start a Bitcoin mission, the page reloaded with a new window popup, I tried again to use 2 boosts, this time the mission started when the page reloaded, but I only had 99 boosts remaining.  Thanks.

[clearmaker]

Hey Jamboom...  In the process of trying to close all the popups, the game managed to steal 2 mining boosts from me.  Any chance of getting them back?  I had 103 to start with, tried to use 2 to start a Bitcoin mission, the page reloaded with a new window popup, I tried again to use 2 boosts, this time the mission started when the page reloaded, but I only had 99 boosts remaining.  Thanks.

@icanhazcoinz,
that happens more often if you click again too quickly, if you wait a while until the page is fully loaded, you could probably have seen that mining on level 2 had already started.

make a change so that members cannot start new mining until the active one is finished ... that is also not a solution, because if a member has been on the mining page for too long and then tries to use mining boost points, that doesn't work and just start mining on level 1.

So advice is .... always refresh the mining page and wait until it is fully loaded before you start mining.

[Thomasio]

So now we have a first indication of how much CGT is supposed to be worth.
In the shop 1,000 crystals costs 6,800 sat or 0.5 CGT which means, 1 CGT would be worth a bit over 13,000 sat.
Unfortunately there's no way of exchanging that directly and through the detour of buying crystals or cards for CGT and then sell that for sat one can get only 2,000 crystals for 1 CGT where selling 2,000 crystals in the market will fetch no more than 200 sat or in other words 1 CGT has an actual value of only 200 sat.

Considered the fact that the first 1,000 HP plus 18% from cards will mine roughly 200 sat per day while another 2,400 HP (3,400 HP in total) plus 18% from cards will mine only 0.6 CGT per MONTH, there's something wayyyyyyyyyyyyy off in the calculations either way.
Either 1 CGT is worth 13,000 sat, then 2.4 times the HP that mines 200 sat per day should mine 480 sat per day which would correspond to 1 CGT per 27 days mining not per 50 days as it is.
Or 1 CGT is worth 200 sat, then 2.4 times the HP that mines 200 sat per day should mine 480 sat per day which would correspond to 2.4 CGT per day mining not 0.02 CGT per day as it is.

Either way, I'd highly appreciate an option for direct exchange of CGT to sat, because this detour through buying crystals for CGT just to then sell crystals for sat loses just too much value (as far as you consider CGT any valuable at all).

I see it like this:
If the only way to get any real value for CGT is through the shop and the market, then you're setting the value of CGT indirectly yourself to 200 sat for 1 CGT and then mining CGT or doing missions for CGT is entirely useless because the electricity to run a regular computer for the few seconds clicking and later on claiming a mission BY FAR exceeds the value you get.
If you want the value of CGT to be higher, you have to provide an option to exchange CGT for sat directly, where adding it to the market won't do, simply because nobody would pay more than 200 sat for 1 CGT or at least you have to make crystals and cards WAY cheaper in the market.

[Thomasio]

The hole point of the CGT was to lessen the burden of the game. Mission accomplished! So, exchange to sats will never happen.

Ermmmm, it DID happen with the option to buy stuff in the shop for CGT.
The detour through shop and market is not really practical, but it does provide a value to CGT including an option to exchange, which at current prices is roughly 200 sat for 1 CGT.

[Thomasio]

The hole point of the CGT was to lessen the burden of the game. Mission accomplished! So, exchange to sats will never happen.

Ermmmm, it DID happen with the option to buy stuff in the shop for CGT.
The detour through shop and market is not really practical, but it does provide a value to CGT including an option to exchange, which at current prices is roughly 200 sat for 1 CGT.

If it was about being practical, the old solution without CGT would be the solution. The hole point of the CGT was that the old model was too expensive for the game. If you make CGT to sat option, game will have to pay, if you add goods/CGT to exchange other players have to pay. Also, the CGT option in the shop is not exclusive for CGT, like I suggested

I  fully understand why all HP above 1,000 was moved to CGT, I don't even mind this.
What I do mind is how far off the supposed value CGT is to the value one can get out of it.

The solution is quite simple and doesn't cost CMG anything, because the problem is nothing more than that the prices in the shop are way far off reality.
1,000 crystals in the market are worth about 100 sat, not 6,000 as the shop charges, therefore the solution to give CGT a higher value is as simple as selling crystals (and other stuff) in the shop for way less CGT.
By my calculation and at current mining rates it should be about 1,000 crystals for 0.001 CGT.

[Thomasio]

And you are wrong about changing the price will not cost the game, because the more profitable it will be to use CGT to buy, the less the game will make selling for sats. Shop is income for the game. That's why my solution with exclusive goods is a better solution for all

You believe there are users who buy stuff in the shop at current prices?
Ok, I don't know and since the shop has existed for a long time one should assume there are users who buy things there, but then it requires a real bloody newbie to accept these prices.

[Thomasio]

You are leaving sats on the table, by not joining the PvP, why make a big deal on the CGT? Adapt to the game, if you want profit, don't wait for the game to adapt to you

You got that wrong.
I have been paying for using CMG from day 1 on, simply because I have a big computer with a 65" 4K TV for monitor, where the monitor alone consumes so much electricity that (at Italian prices) my electricity bill for the time I'm using CMG BY FAR exceeds the few cryptos I'm getting from CMG.
For me doing this is plain fun where I accept the price it costs me, I do this for fun only and combatting other users is no fun for me.
I'm having fun finding stuff in the world map and exchanging it in the market, I'm having fun figuring out that doing missions for crystals and cards plus selling them in the market gives far more sat than doing BTC missions, but in the end I'm just funneling money from CMG to my electricity provider.

[Thomasio]

You where against PvP long before it was added, and I can tell you watching an attack give you 90+ VP beats anything else you can do in the world

Yes I was and I wouldn't know why that should be a bad thing.
If you like it, fine, I'm not saying you shouldn't play it, I just don't like it and you shouldn't try telling me what I shall like.

[Thomasio]

And when your loud complains have changed how Jamboom made the PvP system, you may have made the experience worse for everyone else

Don't you think you're giving me far too much credit here?
Do you honestly believe I would have an influence on jamboom?
If I had that influence there would be an entirely different game on this server right now, still PvP but VERY different.
In fact I had offered that game to jamboom about 2 years ago, he got in touch with me at Skype, said he was VERY interested, just had to do some bug fixing on the old site and then he'd get back to me to talk about this game, yet he never did.
Apparently he rather invested 2 years of his own time to code his own game, before taking a ready made game from someone else, even though I was offering him my game for free.
Does that sound like me having influence?

[Thomasio]

Dude, seriously! If you truly believed it was futile to come with suggestions here, why would you put so much effort in commenting. You are probably nr. 2 behind Jamboom in comments on this tread.

It's easy to know when Jamboom take a suggestion seriously, and that's when he give an answer that show he is interested. If he don't like it, he won't answer, except if you are rude, than he will give a more or less hidden insult back

Of course it was not all futile, i.e. I was the one suggesting long ago to give users the choice of which shortlink they want to use so the site wouldn't get stuck when the default shortlink went down, jamboom implemented that within a few days and it has worked nicely ever since.
But that holds true only when jamboom doesn't have an idea of his own, bringing an idea to him he never even thought of that sounds nice to him on first view.
Whenever he has an idea himself, theres nothing that can prevent him from doing that, no matter how many users tell him they don't like the idea and this site is full of examples where he utterly failed, i.e. the very first version of CMW he wanted to make, that was terminated due to complete failure before it even launched.

Anyway, I'm not here to change the plans of jamboom, if I can contribute a suggestion that gets implemented, like the one I mentioned above, cool, but primarily I'm here because I like discussing, no matter what result comes out of that.
In fact my favorite topics to discuss are politics and economy, where 99.9% of all discussions never change anyones mind, because opinions are preset and fixed and the discussion is done just for the sake of discussing.
You wouldn't believe in how many forums I'm active, in how many forums I'm one of the top posters, how many posts I write per day for all kind of topics, in fact I've once exceeded the limits of a forum by so much that I ended up literally publishing a book with the content that was just way too much for the economy forum where that topic got started.

[jimi1970]

hi

I have not yet figured out one thing: the HP gained in the world go into CGT mining or into HP cryptocurrencies?

tx

[vkireev85]

Jamboom, another bug, that was never fixed, for long time http://wallmaker.ru/epic/view/2HpLFXW6fU7V1OmmU3zaDxQP
Everyone has 6 trades available, and if I want to cancel some trades that were done long time ago I have to go through hundreds of pages to find a trade I want to cancel

[jamboom]

Jamboom, another bug, that was never fixed, for long time http://wallmaker.ru/epic/view/2HpLFXW6fU7V1OmmU3zaDxQP
Everyone has 6 trades available, and if I want to cancel some trades that were done long time ago I have to go through hundreds of pages to find a trade I want to cancel

Hi,
No, you just have to choose to check "Just mine" in the filters.
This is not working properly?

[jamboom]

hi

I have not yet figured out one thing: the HP gained in the world go into CGT mining or into HP cryptocurrencies?

tx

Hi,
Every currencies until 1000, only CGT above 1000.
Best!

[vkireev85]

Jamboom, another bug, that was never fixed, for long time http://wallmaker.ru/epic/view/2HpLFXW6fU7V1OmmU3zaDxQP
Everyone has 6 trades available, and if I want to cancel some trades that were done long time ago I have to go through hundreds of pages to find a trade I want to cancel

Hi,
No, you just have to choose to check "Just mine" in the filters.
This is not working properly?

You didnt even try to open a screenshot I made. I even underlined everything there. "Just mine" is also underlined.
But thats OK. This is not for the 1st time on your side.

[Thomasio]

Today I cannot claim the result of a job, always comes up with "internal server error".

Update: It's a bug in combination with the DDOS checking.
If that check comes up before accessing the jobs page one cannot claim a job, even refreshing the page still doesn't work.
Only when after that check accessing some other page within CMG and then returning to the jobs page without the DDOS check, one can claim a job.

[Lullaby99]

Hi Jamboom,

Bug with XP is back .

I finished about 20 missions in last 30 minutes , but my xp value is still the same.

Please, check it. Thanks.

Best regards.

Dinzzy