Kruncha
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August 13, 2013, 10:23:26 PM |
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I think redcoin guy should be more vocal.
I've seen a great deal of that premine given away - if only he'd list/account for it. it'd help his case immensely.
I like red, and hope it's listed. but, that won't happen 'till the guy pulls his finger out (opinion)
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Oldminer
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August 13, 2013, 10:34:00 PM Last edit: August 13, 2013, 10:46:13 PM by Oldminer |
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Yah Pre-mine cant be what they are using to decide to list a coin or not as Stablecoin had like a 1.5mil pre-mine and the dev has vanished and delivered nothing on his promises, its essentially a dead coin, last I looked one or 2 or the nodes were running on mail servers, and yet it was listed and continues to be traded despite a consistently low hash rate and AWOL Dev.
Stablecoin is different as it was listed before BV went anti-premine. Ever since then they have listed a crapload of shitcoins. SBC is different also in that yes the dev has vanished however there may be a legitimate reason behind that. Maybe he died? Who knows? He certainly was very active up until his last post and had a lot of things in development. One things for sure, despite the premine there never was a dump despite cryptsy's fears of such. Check the trade history on cryptsy and look at the volume traded. The spikes in volume where when the coins value was comparatively low. We started considering pre-mines once the number of coins started jumping and profit dumping seems to be the incentive for the premines. It doesn't mean it wont be considered it means that fair release coins will get a higher priority as the coins were made by folks who have more incentive to stick with their release. We still have redcoin on the list its just not its turn to be added above the fairer trader friendly fair release coins. Fair enough. But why list coins that have no services and no value outside your exchange simply because they werent pre-mined? Why will people buy these coins from your exchange other than to try & pump the price so they can then dump them? Are these coins somehow more valuable in your eyes than coins that may have a pre-mine with at least some of that pre-mine being used to provide services & add value to the coin? And how does a dev provide services for his coin without a pre-mine? With his own money I think most of the fair release coins have gotten every service you speak of for free. CAPs, HBN have many supporters which coin do you think doesnt? What support does GIL & GDC have? The coin on top of your list of potential coins (philosopherstone) doesnt even have any services yet? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260311.0
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BitJohn (OP)
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August 13, 2013, 10:51:40 PM |
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Yah Pre-mine cant be what they are using to decide to list a coin or not as Stablecoin had like a 1.5mil pre-mine and the dev has vanished and delivered nothing on his promises, its essentially a dead coin, last I looked one or 2 or the nodes were running on mail servers, and yet it was listed and continues to be traded despite a consistently low hash rate and AWOL Dev.
Stablecoin is different as it was listed before BV went anti-premine. Ever since then they have listed a crapload of shitcoins. SBC is different also in that yes the dev has vanished however there may be a legitimate reason behind that. Maybe he died? Who knows? He certainly was very active up until his last post and had a lot of things in development. One things for sure, despite the premine there never was a dump despite cryptsy's fears of such. Check the trade history on cryptsy and look at the volume traded. The spikes in volume where when the coins value was comparatively low. We started considering pre-mines once the number of coins started jumping and profit dumping seems to be the incentive for the premines. It doesn't mean it wont be considered it means that fair release coins will get a higher priority as the coins were made by folks who have more incentive to stick with their release. We still have redcoin on the list its just not its turn to be added above the fairer trader friendly fair release coins. Fair enough. But why list coins that have no services and no value outside your exchange simply because they werent pre-mined? Why will people buy these coins from your exchange other than to try & pump the price so they can then dump them? Are these coins somehow more valuable in your eyes than coins that may have a pre-mine with at least some of that pre-mine being used to provide services & add value to the coin? And how does a dev provide services for his coin without a pre-mine? With his own money I think most of the fair release coins have gotten every service you speak of for free. CAPs, HBN have many supporters which coin do you think doesnt? What support does GIL & GDC have? The coin on top of your list of potential coins (philosopherstone) doesnt even have any services yet? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260311.0Gil you can user on coingas.com and GDC has huge support and an active team and backer not to mention weekly updates with beer reviews from microguy.
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Oldminer
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August 13, 2013, 11:00:03 PM |
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Yah Pre-mine cant be what they are using to decide to list a coin or not as Stablecoin had like a 1.5mil pre-mine and the dev has vanished and delivered nothing on his promises, its essentially a dead coin, last I looked one or 2 or the nodes were running on mail servers, and yet it was listed and continues to be traded despite a consistently low hash rate and AWOL Dev.
Stablecoin is different as it was listed before BV went anti-premine. Ever since then they have listed a crapload of shitcoins. SBC is different also in that yes the dev has vanished however there may be a legitimate reason behind that. Maybe he died? Who knows? He certainly was very active up until his last post and had a lot of things in development. One things for sure, despite the premine there never was a dump despite cryptsy's fears of such. Check the trade history on cryptsy and look at the volume traded. The spikes in volume where when the coins value was comparatively low. We started considering pre-mines once the number of coins started jumping and profit dumping seems to be the incentive for the premines. It doesn't mean it wont be considered it means that fair release coins will get a higher priority as the coins were made by folks who have more incentive to stick with their release. We still have redcoin on the list its just not its turn to be added above the fairer trader friendly fair release coins. Fair enough. But why list coins that have no services and no value outside your exchange simply because they werent pre-mined? Why will people buy these coins from your exchange other than to try & pump the price so they can then dump them? Are these coins somehow more valuable in your eyes than coins that may have a pre-mine with at least some of that pre-mine being used to provide services & add value to the coin? And how does a dev provide services for his coin without a pre-mine? With his own money I think most of the fair release coins have gotten every service you speak of for free. CAPs, HBN have many supporters which coin do you think doesnt? What support does GIL & GDC have? The coin on top of your list of potential coins (philosopherstone) doesnt even have any services yet? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260311.0Gil you can user on coingas.com and GDC has huge support and an active team and backer not to mention weekly updates with beer reviews from microguy. GIL you can use ONLY on coingas and ONLY because it was accepted 2 days ago (long after the listing on your exchange) because the dev convinced the owner of coingas too after he pumped up the price (and subsequently dumped his premine on your exchange 24 hours later). Look, personally I like your exchange, and I do believe Redcoin will eventually get a listing, I'm just concerned about the 'quality' and future worth of some of the coins listed and the impact this is having on the quality coins that are released in the future, and the detrimental effect some of them are having on worthwhile alts. This, and the perception future dev's will have of what constitutes a 'good' coin.
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claycoins
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August 13, 2013, 11:21:17 PM |
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THere are at least 10 coins which have been pretty much abandoned. People still buy and sell them though, until there is zero buy support for them I guess they have there place.
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August 14, 2013, 12:05:47 AM |
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There were support services lined up from Thailand to Kenya to Somalia that were going to use proceeds of Elephant coin (ELP) to support wildlife reserves...but since Cryptsy decided not to add it over 100,000 wild elephants have died as a result.
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bholzer
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August 14, 2013, 12:40:13 AM |
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There were support services lined up from Thailand to Kenya to Somalia that were going to use proceeds of Elephant coin (ELP) to support wildlife reserves...but since Cryptsy decided not to add it over 100,000 wild elephants have died as a result.
Well then the blood of those elephants is on the hands of the greedy ELP dev who premined nearly 1.5 million coins and prevented ELP from being taken seriously. Until proven otherwise, it remains a scamcoin.
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BitJohn (OP)
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August 14, 2013, 12:58:00 AM |
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There were support services lined up from Thailand to Kenya to Somalia that were going to use proceeds of Elephant coin (ELP) to support wildlife reserves...but since Cryptsy decided not to add it over 100,000 wild elephants have died as a result.
I didn't know about the save the elephant service..... I swear
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August 14, 2013, 01:22:00 AM |
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Will you be adding zeta coin to your exchange ?
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
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August 14, 2013, 01:23:07 AM |
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There were support services lined up from Thailand to Kenya to Somalia that were going to use proceeds of Elephant coin (ELP) to support wildlife reserves...but since Cryptsy decided not to add it over 100,000 wild elephants have died as a result.
I was curious about this figure, as I have watched quite a bit of National Geographic, so I looked into it a bit further. http://www.defenders.org/elephant/basic-facts"Today, there are an estimated 450,000 - 700,000 African elephants and between 35,000 - 40,000 wild Asian elephants." http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/animals/conservation/elephants/intro.shtml"the WWF estimates there are between 25,600 and 32,750 individual Asian elephants left in the wild." " The WWF estimates there to be between 470,000 and 690,000 individual elephants. (African) So because Cryptsy did not support a coin, 15-20% of the world's elephants have been killed? Also, I found an Elephant sanctuary page and found this, http://www.elephants.com/faq.php"How much does their care cost per month? Food, dietary supplements and regular veterinary care cost approximately $1,000 per elephant, per month. This does not include operating costs and salaries" So the elephant coin fund would have donated at least $100 million per month?
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BitJohn (OP)
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August 14, 2013, 01:32:39 AM |
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There were support services lined up from Thailand to Kenya to Somalia that were going to use proceeds of Elephant coin (ELP) to support wildlife reserves...but since Cryptsy decided not to add it over 100,000 wild elephants have died as a result.
I was curious about this figure, as I have watched quite a bit of National Geographic, so I looked into it a bit further. http://www.defenders.org/elephant/basic-facts"Today, there are an estimated 450,000 - 700,000 African elephants and between 35,000 - 40,000 wild Asian elephants." http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/animals/conservation/elephants/intro.shtml"the WWF estimates there are between 25,600 and 32,750 individual Asian elephants left in the wild." " The WWF estimates there to be between 470,000 and 690,000 individual elephants. (African) So because Cryptsy did not support a coin, 15-20% of the world's elephants have been killed? Also, I found an Elephant sanctuary page and found this, http://www.elephants.com/faq.php"How much does their care cost per month? Food, dietary supplements and regular veterinary care cost approximately $1,000 per elephant, per month. This does not include operating costs and salaries" So the elephant coin fund would have donated at least $100 million per month? Mother of god what have we done!
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daemonfox
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August 14, 2013, 01:38:27 AM |
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BitJohn you MUST save the Elephants!
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August 14, 2013, 01:42:17 AM |
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Not to bring up bad and scary things but because GME hasn't made it to the exchange lots of children have had to go without be able to purchase games with their Gamecoins. Think of the children!
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Btc=C2MF Free BTC Poker Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent. -Marilyn vos Savant
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BitJohn (OP)
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August 14, 2013, 02:53:47 AM |
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Not to bring up bad and scary things but because GME hasn't made it to the exchange lots of children have had to go without be able to purchase games with their Gamecoins. Think of the children! But if we add it before Christmas well be like Santa yes?
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August 14, 2013, 02:57:52 AM |
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Not to bring up bad and scary things but because GME hasn't made it to the exchange lots of children have had to go without be able to purchase games with their Gamecoins. Think of the children! But if we add it before Christmas well be like Santa yes? Everyday that isn't Christmas is technically before Christmas. So by that logic, Thursday sounds as good as any.
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Btc=C2MF Free BTC Poker Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent. -Marilyn vos Savant
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fendlestick
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August 14, 2013, 03:06:33 AM |
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Not to bring up bad and scary things but because GME hasn't made it to the exchange lots of children have had to go without be able to purchase games with their Gamecoins. Think of the children! But if we add it before Christmas well be like Santa yes? Everyday that isn't Christmas is technically before Christmas. So by that logic, Thursday sounds as good as any. Now that is some top class smart arsery! I am gonna use that in real life at some point for sure.
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BitJohn (OP)
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August 14, 2013, 03:48:56 AM |
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Not to bring up bad and scary things but because GME hasn't made it to the exchange lots of children have had to go without be able to purchase games with their Gamecoins. Think of the children! But if we add it before Christmas well be like Santa yes? Everyday that isn't Christmas is technically before Christmas. So by that logic, Thursday sounds as good as any. Now that is some top class smart arsery! I am gonna use that in real life at some point for sure. Ok ok Gamecoin is #1 on the list
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Tripjammer
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August 14, 2013, 05:11:19 AM |
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Not to bring up bad and scary things but because GME hasn't made it to the exchange lots of children have had to go without be able to purchase games with their Gamecoins. Think of the children! But if we add it before Christmas well be like Santa yes? Everyday that isn't Christmas is technically before Christmas. So by that logic, Thursday sounds as good as any. Now that is some top class smart arsery! I am gonna use that in real life at some point for sure. Ok ok Gamecoin is #1 on the list Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
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August 14, 2013, 05:12:12 AM |
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Not to bring up bad and scary things but because GME hasn't made it to the exchange lots of children have had to go without be able to purchase games with their Gamecoins. Think of the children! But if we add it before Christmas well be like Santa yes? Everyday that isn't Christmas is technically before Christmas. So by that logic, Thursday sounds as good as any. Now that is some top class smart arsery! I am gonna use that in real life at some point for sure. Ok ok Gamecoin is #1 on the list Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! He didn't say which list, could be the "hell no list".
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BitJohn (OP)
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August 14, 2013, 05:13:39 AM |
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lol guess we will have to see.
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