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July 21, 2013, 02:02:39 AM |
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Doesn't look good.. won't even break even till next year?
How do you figure 70Watts of power usage from a port that only supplies 4.5Watts???
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dracore
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July 21, 2013, 02:03:57 AM |
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How do you figure 70Watts of power usage from a port that only supplies 4.5Watts???
I assumed it needed to run with a laptop plugged in.
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July 21, 2013, 02:04:56 AM |
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You won't gain anything if it ships november to be honest, i wish they had lowered prices to be competitive.
I wish the chip prices were lower so we could be competitive
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July 21, 2013, 02:06:45 AM |
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I assumed it needed to run with a laptop plugged in.
There are plenty of devices you can mine from with much lower power figures than a laptop.
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July 21, 2013, 02:26:03 AM |
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Agreed... I wish you the best.
I think the chip pricing may be putting you guys in a tough spot (even at $20/chip).
At the high end, the H-board beat you price performance... and the price gap is fairly small for a big jump in performance. In the USB key space, you guys are going to be king of the hill! But USB key space isn't for the serious miners (IMHO). USB key mining is all about price. This space is going to be dominated by K1 clones and AM in the sub $100 bracket.
Again... I hope you guys can make a go of it, because I know you have been working hard to make it happen.
Hopefully the market will say I am full of crap and you will be successful.
Best of luck you guys.
ps. If you are looking for a good product idea, I recommend keeping chips out of it for now --- the chip pricing seems too steep for the segment you are in. Build a M-board clone that can mate with the H-boards and be a hero! Right now the "starter' kit is going to be $1300 in October. That includes a 500 H-board... which means the kit minus H-board is $800. You guys should be able to build a clone for $40 and sell it for $200 with no bitfury asics. Sell a pro model with larger gap spacing for heat sinks and fans and higher power for $400... Just my .0003 btc.
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ErebusBat
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July 21, 2013, 12:46:59 PM |
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ps. If you are looking for a good product idea, I recommend keeping chips out of it for now --- the chip pricing seems too steep for the segment you are in. Build a M-board clone that can mate with the H-boards and be a hero! Right now the "starter' kit is going to be $1300 in October. That includes a 500 H-board... which means the kit minus H-board is $800. You guys should be able to build a clone for $40 and sell it for $200 with no bitfury asics. Sell a pro model with larger gap spacing for heat sinks and fans and higher power for $400... Just my .0003 btc.
I think that is actually very wise, or the ability to easily change the clock settings to OC the H boards; although that might put Tom in a tough spot with warranties. I think with the ASIC storm coming it will be down to companies that help your hardware perform better, not another company with comparable hardware. (Once we get a company that can actually ship demand that is)
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July 22, 2013, 06:03:53 AM |
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ps. If you are looking for a good product idea, I recommend keeping chips out of it for now --- the chip pricing seems too steep for the segment you are in. Build a M-board clone that can mate with the H-boards and be a hero! Right now the "starter' kit is going to be $1300 in October. That includes a 500 H-board... which means the kit minus H-board is $800. You guys should be able to build a clone for $40 and sell it for $200 with no bitfury asics. Sell a pro model with larger gap spacing for heat sinks and fans and higher power for $400... Just my .0003 btc.
I think that is actually very wise, or the ability to easily change the clock settings to OC the H boards; although that might put Tom in a tough spot with warranties. I think with the ASIC storm coming it will be down to companies that help your hardware perform better, not another company with comparable hardware. (Once we get a company that can actually ship demand that is) I would really like to have the option to OC. From the tests conducted it looks like the chips OC very well (theoretically one H-board should be able to pull 38 GH/s) so long as you can keep them cool. I have no problem dumping a lot of self-adhesive heatsinks all over the chips and voltage regulators on board.
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ninjaboon
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July 22, 2013, 07:18:13 AM |
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I assumed it needed to run with a laptop plugged in.
There are plenty of devices you can mine from with much lower power figures than a laptop. True. I saw this site selling : MineNinja V2 Bitcoin Mining Host and they go for 1.5 BTC a piece.
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July 22, 2013, 08:43:54 AM Last edit: July 22, 2013, 09:33:43 AM by buzzdave |
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July 10pc chips look like they've sold out. Somebody jumped on the last 17x10pc I had in stock. If the buyer flakes, I'll be sure to post.
[EDIT] Buyer confirms. Money is on the way. Sorry folks, I'll see if I can get my hands on more...no promises.
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jspielberg
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July 22, 2013, 11:50:54 AM |
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I assumed it needed to run with a laptop plugged in.
There are plenty of devices you can mine from with much lower power figures than a laptop. True. I saw this site selling : MineNinja V2 Bitcoin Mining Host and they go for 1.5 BTC a piece. They have decided to pursue other development options so this point is moot. I think the take away I learned is... if you don't have something available with a delivery date of less than a month, you will be ripped to shreds on this forum. And also, the second teir asic business is a tough one if not run with opensource hardware/software ala burn-in bbk.
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July 22, 2013, 12:27:58 PM |
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ps. If you are looking for a good product idea, I recommend keeping chips out of it for now --- the chip pricing seems too steep for the segment you are in. Build a M-board clone that can mate with the H-boards and be a hero! Right now the "starter' kit is going to be $1300 in October. That includes a 500 H-board... which means the kit minus H-board is $800. You guys should be able to build a clone for $40 and sell it for $200 with no bitfury asics. Sell a pro model with larger gap spacing for heat sinks and fans and higher power for $400... Just my .0003 btc.
I think that is actually very wise, or the ability to easily change the clock settings to OC the H boards; although that might put Tom in a tough spot with warranties. I think with the ASIC storm coming it will be down to companies that help your hardware perform better, not another company with comparable hardware. (Once we get a company that can actually ship demand that is) I would really like to have the option to OC. From the tests conducted it looks like the chips OC very well (theoretically one H-board should be able to pull 38 GH/s) so long as you can keep them cool. I have no problem dumping a lot of self-adhesive heatsinks all over the chips and voltage regulators on board. I completely agree. I run out of a SOC Type II compliant Datacenter and have cold air to spare. I would love the ability to OC these and do some mods like installing basic heatsinks. With just off the rack equipment I can easily cool 2-3kW of heat production.
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July 22, 2013, 12:32:42 PM |
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I assumed it needed to run with a laptop plugged in.
There are plenty of devices you can mine from with much lower power figures than a laptop. True. I saw this site selling : MineNinja V2 Bitcoin Mining Host and they go for 1.5 BTC a piece. They have decided to pursue other development options so this point is moot. I think the take away I learned is... if you don't have something available with a delivery date of less than a month, you will be ripped to shreds on this forum. And also, the second teir asic business is a tough one if not run with opensource hardware/software ala burn-in bbk. I do not agree. The takeaway is that if your products ROI is poor at delivery date and you appear to have overpriced your product compared to the competition you will be ripped to shreds. They were 20% too high or one month too late.
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dracore
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July 22, 2013, 01:54:45 PM |
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Whoah H-board price just jumped to $540
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ErebusBat
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July 22, 2013, 02:07:52 PM |
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Your timing is impeccable then, or you didn't get charged 'tax' and I wonder why the difference to begin with?
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July 22, 2013, 02:09:07 PM Last edit: July 22, 2013, 02:25:47 PM by tom99 |
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Why price jump again for hboard?
ps: Canada buyers have to pay tax too?
Thank Dave
now fix for relogin now no tax for Canada.
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July 22, 2013, 02:10:18 PM |
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Your timing is impeccable then, or you didn't get charged 'tax' and I wonder why the difference to begin with? Hmm, interesting, showing as $500 for me.., even EU site at 350E = $480, so dunno where $540 comes from.
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July 22, 2013, 02:26:11 PM Last edit: July 22, 2013, 04:37:50 PM by -Redacted- |
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Now the website is showing me $541... Wonder what's up with the 8% "tax" ?
Edit: It depends on whether or not I'm logged in. Logged in, it's still $500, no tax. Logged out it shows price + tax.
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July 22, 2013, 02:28:44 PM |
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What state are you in? I think Dave is running Megabigpower out of CA so you may be subject to tax if your shipping to an address there.
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July 22, 2013, 02:37:25 PM Last edit: July 22, 2013, 02:54:50 PM by minternj |
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still shows 500 for me.
edit - ya i was logged in. Logging out i do see the "tax".
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