💬 ADAMANT Messenger — ETH/BTC/etc. in-chat payments, open source and secure

[vlom]

Sorry, misspelled.
"even (moreover) a messenger platform".
I am in Russia.

ok. from russia. then you really need something new and something that cant be blocked by the government. but you have to be aware that it will be twice as hard to by trusted too.

because I like things that help people to keep their privacy I will now have a closer look.

from the WP:

The message history is never stored on a device and is directly loaded from theblockchain;

are the messages in the blockchain stored like the amount of coins? in a way that everybody can read them?

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[adamant.im]

Showing token transfers in Chats
Blockchain technology enters closely into our life, making it more convenient! As we said earlier, ADAMANT is working on transferring tokens (ADM, ETH, BTC, LSK, etc.) right in chats.
With the release of the application 1.0.28, ADM transfers are displayed in chats — this is a step towards implementing a more ambitious goal. Try it yourself: https://msg.adamant.im. Make sure you are using the latest version of the application (Settings tab, at the bottom). If this is not the case, clear the browser's cache.
More information about the release is in our GitHub: https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant-im/releases/tag/v1.0.28

[vlom]

and then i have an other security concern.
you need your tokens to be able to send messages. so you have to buy you tokens. and i will be harder and harder to trade on exchanges without KNC. so if you buy coins on an exchange account that is linked to your identity its know which adamant-address belongs to you. and therefore anonymity is broken.

[vlom]

how to become a delegate?
its a lisk clone?

https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant only show the installation.

setting up a delegate is not explained.
voting?

thanks for the help.

[vlom]

you really should give more help.

i followed this https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant

and i installed this: https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant-console

but after pm2 start --name adamant app.js it strange.
mode = fork.

and do i create an account?
https://IP:36667 =>
{"success":false,"error":"API error: Failed to lookup view \"wallet.html\" in views directory \"/home/adamant/adamant/public\""}

[adamant.im]

and then i have an other security concern.
you need your tokens to be able to send messages. so you have to buy you tokens. and i will be harder and harder to trade on exchanges without KNC. so if you buy coins on an exchange account that is linked to your identity its know which adamant-address belongs to you. and therefore anonymity is broken.

That's true. Total decentralisation and anonymity are possible only when anything can be bought via crypto.

[adamant.im]

how to become a delegate?
its a lisk clone?

https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant only show the installation.

setting up a delegate is not explained.
voting?

thanks for the help.

Yes, ADAMANT is based on Lisk's code (forked mid 2017).

Here is some info about deploying ADAMANT node.

ADAMANT nodes natively running on Ubuntu os, but can be run on other platforms using docker.

Short instructions, which are enough for IT specialists, availabe at https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant repository.

To run a node on Windows use Docker and node image for it. https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant-docker

To make node a delegete, you can use console tools now https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant-console
Later we'll add interface for this in user wallet/messenger app.
To become a delegete, users must vote for it (now in command tools also).

About console tools, have you made right config? https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant-console#configuration

You need to create you ADAMANT account at https://msg.adamant.im adn get your passPhrase.

[tkf]

you really should give more help.

and do i create an account?

Adamant console doesn't have create account command for now. You should use msg.adamant.im or https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant-im for this.
In the next couple of day i think command will be added there.

[lokojones]

1. So Genesis is 98 million, how the rest of the coins - 102million will be distributed?
2. Is this Dpos blockchain, if so how look the inflation and for how long?
3. how many delegates will secure the blockchain - delegates will be more like lisk or more ark?
4. most important I think - what is the use case for the coins?

many thanks for any contributions. 

[Azza1070]

you really should give more help.

i followed this https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant

and i installed this: https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant-console

but after pm2 start --name adamant app.js it strange.
mode = fork.

and do i create an account?
https://IP:36667 =>
{"success":false,"error":"API error: Failed to lookup view \"wallet.html\" in views directory \"/home/adamant/adamant/public\""}

Please join our English Telegram Chat to have your questions answered in real-time:
http://t.me/adamant_eng

[Azza1070]

and then i have an other security concern.
you need your tokens to be able to send messages. so you have to buy you tokens. and i will be harder and harder to trade on exchanges without KNC. so if you buy coins on an exchange account that is linked to your identity its know which adamant-address belongs to you. and therefore anonymity is broken.

If you purchase tokens through a website that monitors your details (most general exchanges/exchange-markets) then yes, the link to your identity is known. However, if you purchase cryptocurrencies anonymously, or purchase them from a monitored exchange and then trade them for a coin that has absolute privacy (Monero, Zcash, PIVX, etc), then the link with your identity is broken, as long as you stay off exchanges that can track your identity (after that point).

For example:
If you purchase 1 ETH on CoinBase, your details are monitored everywhere you send that ETH.
If you send your 1 ETH to a decentralized exchange (such as: Gate.io), and swap your ETH for Monero.
You can now send your Monero anonymously to another exchange or website (that does not monitor details) and your identity cannot be known (depending on the website/exchange).
If the ADM token could be exchanged directly for Monero (XMR), then there is no possible way to track your identity, and thus you can purchase ADM tokens anonymously in this way.
A good strategy for the ADAMANT team would be to get the ADM token listed on as many decentralized exchanges as possible, or to create a decentralized token-swapping feature. Lead Devs might know more on this.

how to become a delegate?
its a lisk clone?

https://github.com/Adamant-im/adamant only show the installation.

setting up a delegate is not explained.
voting?

thanks for the help.

Yes, the ADAMANT platform is built on a forked-Lisk codebase.
The delegate feature should be available shortly, I believe the question on whether staking and voting will be introduced was answered in the English Telegram group about 2 weeks ago, with a rough estimation being 2-3 weeks (1 more week from now). A Lead Dev should be able to answer this question in more detail.

Details on how to set-up a delegate will be explained once the feature is available.

[Azza1070]

1. So Genesis is 98 million, how the rest of the coins - 102million will be distributed?
2. Is this Dpos blockchain, if so how look the inflation and for how long?
3. how many delegates will secure the blockchain - delegates will be more like lisk or more ark?
4. most important I think - what is the use case for the coins?

many thanks for any contributions.  

Hi Jones, thank you for your comment, it means a lot to us.
We're happy to answer all questions informatively.

 1. So Genesis is 98 million, how the rest of the coins - 102million will be distributed?
Page 21 of the ADAMANT Whitepaper (https://adamant.im/whitepaper/adamant-whitepaper-en.pdf):
"102 millions of ADM tokens (+ transaction fees) will be used to payback the
delegate members for infrastructure support and maintaining the network functional.
To learn more on the forging rewards — please read the “Infrastructure maintaining and
ADM token forging (mining)” section of this original document."

 2. Is this Dpos blockchain, if so how look the inflation and for how long?
The ADAMANT Blockchain is based on DPoS.
See Page 12 of the ADAMANT Whitepaper (https://adamant.im/whitepaper/adamant-whitepaper-en.pdf) for more details:
Token name: ADAMANT (ADM)
● DPoS algorithm (Delegated Proof of Stake)
● Maximum tokens amount: 200 000 000 ADM
● Genesis-block: 98 000 000 ADM
● Block time: 5 seconds (17 280 blocks per day, about 6 307 200 blocks per year)
● Block size: variative (not limited)
● Reward per block:
○ First year: 0.5 ADM per block
○ Another years: decreasing by 0.01 ADM every year till fit 0.1 ADM
○ Rewards start from: block number 2,000,000

 3. how many delegates will secure the blockchain - delegates will be more like lisk or more ark?
Page 14 of the ADAMANT Whitepaper (https://adamant.im/whitepaper/adamant-whitepaper-en.pdf):
"The number of active delegates participating in blocks forging is 101. In case when their
number is lower than that, these 101 votes will be allocated among the existing members
which operate as a full node. The minimum amount of such nodes is 3. The whole system
becomes more stable and reliable with the amount of nodes increasing."

 4. most important I think - what is the use case for the coins?
Page 21 of the ADAMANT Whitepaper (https://adamant.im/whitepaper/adamant-whitepaper-en.pdf):
ADM is a token, which value is ensured by commissions (fees) for message and data
transfer. These fees are designed to fully cover all infrastructure cost dictated by the
needs for anonymous and secure data transmission.
ADAMANT Business Service also includes digital document signing (approving) features.
There is an additional ADM value that is produced through the distribution process of all
remainings of the unsold tokens which were allocated for the ICO campaign. This process
is named “ADAMANT Grows” and users that have enough ADM tokens within their wallet
balances will receive proportionally monthly rewards for the approximate period of a one
year after the ICO ends up.

[Azza1070]

thanks to lisk i found this one. one of the better project that i discovered recently. i wish you good luck.
and if you can tell me in one sentence why i should send you some lisk then tell me.

Hello!

Thank you from ADAMANT team.

ADAMANT is new type messengers, evan messanger platform. It is the only one blockchain based (others only speak they are).
Many possibilities here.

THe reason to be some ADM tokens is to support development of the project.

mhh, thanks for the answer. but i dont really understand what you are trying to say. maybe english is not your native language.
You are based in Berlin, arent you? if yes, you can answer me in german if you like.

or lets start and explain me what this evan messanger platform is.

Hi vlom,
I am a native-English speaker. Please feel free to ask me your questions in English, as the team is mostly Russian-based.
You can also contact me in the more active English Telegram Channel here: http://t.me/adamant_eng
Or directly: @Azza1070

[adamant.im]

Dear participants of ADAMANT Messenger bounty campaign!

Once again we want to thank you for your interest and participation! We inform you that on May 30, 2018 all participants will be paid (those who have not yet received tokens on their ADAMANT wallet). This payment will be final, so all participants of the campaign, please check your payments in the tables — bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2626943.0. If you do not have any payments in the tables or you think that the counting was incorrect, please contact us: bounty@adamant.im

Thank you for your support!

[lokojones]

hi there, thanks for a quick response

4. most important I think - what is the use case for the coins?
Page 21 of the ADAMANT Whitepaper (https://adamant.im/whitepaper/adamant-whitepaper-en.pdf):
ADM is a token, which value is ensured by commissions (fees) for message and data
transfer. These fees are designed to fully cover all infrastructure cost dictated by the
needs for anonymous and secure data transmission.
ADAMANT Business Service also includes digital document signing (approving) features.
There is an additional ADM value that is produced through the distribution process of all
remainings of the unsold tokens which were allocated for the ICO campaign. This process
is named “ADAMANT Grows” and users that have enough ADM tokens within their wallet
balances will receive proportionally monthly rewards for the approximate period of a one
year after the ICO ends up.

Are you saying people will have to pay money to be able to send a message? if this is true, how you are going to compete with ex. mesenger which is free?

thanks

[vlom]

To become a delegete, users must vote for it (now in command tools also).

who owns the 101 delegates that are forging right now? are these delegates all connected with the dev-team or even controlled by them?

and why are there 101 delegates only? 0 delegates on standby.
https://explorer.adamant.im/delegateMonitor

[CreamyCheesecake]

I wish I could've participated in the bounty program. I really like the concept of anonymous encrypted messaging and it would be totally awesome if you can also have video calls on the app.

[becruxrubbish]

Showing token transfers in Chats: Blockchain technology enters closely into our life, making it more convenient! As we said earlier, ADAMANT is working on transferring tokens (ADM, ETH, BTC, LSK, etc.) right in chats. As you’re aware, the ADAMANT Messenger is built upon blockchain-technology that uses the Lisk source code as a base. This brings certain advantages such as high-speed delivery of messages and file exchanges.

[adamant.im]

I wish I could've participated in the bounty program. I really like the concept of anonymous encrypted messaging and it would be totally awesome if you can also have video calls on the app.

Hi. The bounty program was ended 2018/03/2018. Now there is an opportunity to participate in the referral program:

ADAMANT starts current stage of referral payouts! If you have joined referral campaign, and your referral balance is not empty, you will be contacted via ADAMANT Messenger. Thank you for supporting the Project!

Join the ADAMANT referral campaign

This is an opportunity to support the project and earn 10%+ in the currency of ADM tokens purchase.
For example, if someone buys ADM tokens on 1 BTC using your link, you will get 0.1 BTC.
For participants with 500 leads per day and more we set custom referral percentage and present the Dashboard: ref.adamant.im. Use these credentials to login for demonstration: blca / aclb.

You do not have to register to participate in the ADAMANT referral program!
1. Create your ADM-wallet on msg.adamant.im and copy your identifier; example: U12365234723472324
2. Use your unique referral link ?referal=ADMWALLET; example: ?referal=U12365234723472324
3. Specify this link on your resource (blog, media, banner, etc.) that leads to any page of adamant.im website; example: adamant.im/ico/?referal=U12365234723472324

Referral payments are paid every two weeks. If your referral balance is not empty, you will be contacted via ADAMANT Messenger.

Have questions? Contact us: U15738334853882270577.

Also if you can offer something we can discuss it.

[adamant.im]

hi there, thanks for a quick response

4. most important I think - what is the use case for the coins?
Page 21 of the ADAMANT Whitepaper (https://adamant.im/whitepaper/adamant-whitepaper-en.pdf):
ADM is a token, which value is ensured by commissions (fees) for message and data
transfer. These fees are designed to fully cover all infrastructure cost dictated by the
needs for anonymous and secure data transmission.
ADAMANT Business Service also includes digital document signing (approving) features.
There is an additional ADM value that is produced through the distribution process of all
remainings of the unsold tokens which were allocated for the ICO campaign. This process
is named “ADAMANT Grows” and users that have enough ADM tokens within their wallet
balances will receive proportionally monthly rewards for the approximate period of a one
year after the ICO ends up.

Are you saying people will have to pay money to be able to send a message? if this is true, how you are going to compete with ex. mesenger which is free?

thanks

That is true.
There are no free messengers.