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Author Topic: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)  (Read 1041803 times)
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October 18, 2013, 04:25:23 PM
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as a noob i learned alot, how labcoin conducted, i only stayed becuase i was attached to theseven, or i wouldnt have givin 2nd thought.

lol it turned out a complete shambles, theseven and howard very very late to respond, specially howard wouldnt open his mouth from his own will, it took shareholders to find him and make him spit out some words.
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October 18, 2013, 04:26:06 PM
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If I were a scammer, this is how I would have done it:

After share price deteriorates to 20% of the IPO price I would secretly buyback most of the shares over a long period of time.  This way I would "legitimately" hold all the funds plus most of the dividends would go to me anyways, as I hold most of the public shares as well.  To keep the few investors happy who decided to hang on, I would divert 20% of the IPO funds to give them a 100% ROI.  Everybody (mostly me) would profit from the shareholders who sold below IPO, and nobody would be coming after me because my company looks completely legit with high paying dividends.

Sam/Fabrizio is a shitty scammer, and not very good at this.  He has taken the route of diverting IPO funds to a Just-dice account.  He's an idiot and he will get caught..  

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October 18, 2013, 04:27:46 PM
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I only supported Labcoin against the scam accusations, not their utter incompetence. This project can still fail even if they don't have scam motives. I still support them as in they are most likely not a scam, but they are incompetent.

When it comes to bitcoin securities (an oxymoron if there ever was one), "never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice".

One failure, I might mistake intention. But after:
-zenpad scam (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/kg4ch/im_the_guy_who_launched_an_highly_overhyped/)
-Kronos.io scam (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/yb89v/bitdaytradecom_operator_has_already_lost_4000btc/)
-bitscalper.com scam
-Bitdaytrade scam
-Labcoin scam

(Im ignoring some fake watch "business"), all of these scams are still called "failures due to incompetence" by some, do you really think Alberto is just the worst CEO in history, or a better scammer than people give him credit for?






Worst CEO, yes he is such a genius scammer. Because he did the following to prove he's genius scam abilities.

1. Auction style IPO raise 3-4X more.
2. Buy 3rd party hardware, which 2TH can easily be acquired in the 3 month period, since they already had 3 avalons anyway.
3. Put up 2TH ahead of schedule, watch price skyrocket, sell remaining shares, and
4. Disappear

That is a good scammer, not have an honest IPO, have zero hashing and miss deadlines, and stick around for a year lol.

Uhh Zenpad failed as a business, but you label it scam. I guess every business that truly fails is a scam.

Guys Palm the creator of the first smartphones is a scam because they went bankrupt and failed. Blackberry is a scam because they are bankrupt and about to fail. Excellent point puppet, the definition of scam can apply to you, as you make failure statements.
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October 18, 2013, 04:30:22 PM
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as a noob i learned alot, how labcoin conducted, i only stayed becuase i was attached to theseven, or i wouldnt have givin 2nd thought.

I never understood this reliance on theseven. I mean, he seems like a nice enough guy, and probably knows his stuff, but his stuff isnt designing asics.
By his own admission he never designed one, and he isnt at all confident in his own abilities to do it properly, if at all.

If theseven was the reason for investing in labcoin.. how does that even make sense?
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October 18, 2013, 04:30:36 PM
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btw looks like theswede is gone for bit long now, did labcoin fired him? since last post swede said that he was disappointed by sam/fabrizio.



Anyway back to the other thread where Sam responds lol

he actually skipped earlier questions posted and he asnwered E.sams post,  its like allowing the late questioner first to be  asnwered.

but meh, i think he will not reply to them, and i think he wont delete it, becuase he deleted so much and it will paint him dodger sooner or later.
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October 18, 2013, 04:31:53 PM
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as a noob i learned alot, how labcoin conducted, i only stayed becuase i was attached to theseven, or i wouldnt have givin 2nd thought.

lol it turned out a complete shambles, theseven and howard very very late to respond, specially howard wouldnt open his mouth from his own will, it took shareholders to find him and make him spit out some words.

Yes before you hang me to death, I was the one who got Howard's contact info, and passed it on to auto to communicate with him as they were both on the west coast.

What you need to understand about Bitcoin this being a new industry there is no regulation hence it attracts the lowest form of human kind. Almost every person from this community is a scumbag, looking to screw and make the most money from any person they can.

Keep that in mind before you trust or invest in any company on here.
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October 18, 2013, 04:34:28 PM
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btw looks like theswede is gone for bit long now, did labcoin fired him? since last post swede said that he was disappointed by sam/fabrizio.



Anyway back to the other thread where Sam responds lol

he actually skipped earlier questions posted and he asnwered E.sams post,  its like allowing the late questioner first to be  asnwered.

but meh, i think he will not reply to them, and i think he wont delete it, becuase he deleted so much and it will paint him dodger sooner or later.
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Again this is "Sam" he is mentally not there 100%. End of the day if your going to invest invest when you see enough hashing power to say that they can't have bought 3rd party hardware, or when they posts pictures or someone visits their facilities.

Just know than that share price will be much higher as alot of the risk has been taken out. Right now this is a 50/50 gamble. You will either lose almost everything or make a nice profit.
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October 18, 2013, 04:35:49 PM
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1. Auction style IPO raise 3-4X more.
2. Buy 3rd party hardware, which 2TH can easily be acquired in the 3 month period, since they already had 3 avalons anyway.
3. Put up 2TH ahead of schedule, watch price skyrocket, sell remaining shares, and
4. Disappear

That is a good scammer, not have an honest IPO, have zero hashing and miss deadlines, and stick around for a year lol.

Call it what you want, he ran of with 10s of thousands of BTC by now, and some people, yourself included, still believe he is honest. I find that a far more successful scam than what pirate did.

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Uhh Zenpad failed as a business, but you label it scam.

Let me guess, you only read the reddit thread he posted himself, not what for instance, engadget wrote at the time:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/ensos-zenpad-is-vaporware-get-refunds-while-they-last/

Oh, and I forgot one more failure in that list. Wozad.com, the company that was going to generate $5 billion and kill google.

How many successive million dollar complete and utter "failures" does it take before a red light starts blinking with you ?
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October 18, 2013, 04:36:03 PM
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Scam because the intention is to fail. They only need to appear to be trying, so that retards like JohnyBigs will give them all their money and support them to the end. And it's working, there's no talk of witch hunt anymore.

The truth is that if you ever want to see a return on your investment, the only thing you need is a $5 wrench.

Another Scam is Pankkake who has zero logical thought.

Why wouldn't they try to fail with $3-$4 million instead of $700,000?
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October 18, 2013, 04:41:50 PM
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1. Auction style IPO raise 3-4X more.
2. Buy 3rd party hardware, which 2TH can easily be acquired in the 3 month period, since they already had 3 avalons anyway.
3. Put up 2TH ahead of schedule, watch price skyrocket, sell remaining shares, and
4. Disappear

That is a good scammer, not have an honest IPO, have zero hashing and miss deadlines, and stick around for a year lol.

Call it what you want, he ran of with 10s of thousands of BTC by now, and some people, yourself included, still believe he is honest. I find that a far more successful scam than what pirate did.

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Uhh Zenpad failed as a business, but you label it scam.

Let me guess, you only read the reddit thread he posted himself, not what for instance, engadget wrote at the time:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/ensos-zenpad-is-vaporware-get-refunds-while-they-last/

Oh, and I forgot one more failure in that list. Wozad.com, the company that was going to generate $5 billion and kill google.

How many successive million dollar complete and utter "failures" does it take before a red light starts blinking with you ?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/10/enso-shutting-down-retail-sales-finally-refunding-zenpad-orders/

you clearly missed where they refunded everyone, I guess getting a full refund is a SCAM right?
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October 18, 2013, 04:42:36 PM
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Another Scam is Pankkake who has zero logical thought.

Why wouldn't they try to fail with $3-$4 million instead of $700,000?
Are you seriously saying they are not a scam because they didn't ask enough? 7500 BTC is one of the biggest IPOs in history.

Who would risk their lives for massive amounts of jail time for $700,000, are you mentally retarded?
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October 18, 2013, 04:43:34 PM
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you clearly missed where they refunded everyone, I guess getting a full refund is a SCAM right?

where does it say everyone was refunded?
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October 18, 2013, 04:43:58 PM
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you clearly missed where they refunded everyone, I guess getting a full refund is a SCAM right?

where does it say everyone was refunded?

read the article which you clearly missed
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October 18, 2013, 04:53:38 PM
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you clearly missed where they refunded everyone, I guess getting a full refund is a SCAM right?

where does it say everyone was refunded?

read the article which you clearly missed

It doesnt say that at all. IN fact if you google around you will find plenty of people who never got either a refund or a tablet and couldnt get a refund from paypal for the same reason BFL customers find it difficulty to get a refund. Why do you think they stretched it so long? To get beyond the 45 day paypal refund period. Im too lazy to find better links (and considering the indisputable scams he was involved in anyway I dont see the point) so this will have to do:


They still have people who paid for a device they never got, and haven’t receive refunds. Now I understand that the reason they havent gotten refunded is paypal’s policies, but reason paypal’s policy kicked in was because of bad behavior on the part of Enso, so they need to own up to that, and stop trying to shift blame, and promise to resolve it, even if they have to issue those refunds out of their operating budge.

http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2010/08/01/enso-just-announced-3-new-android-tablets/?wpmp_switcher=mobile#.UmFmM4a-3Po


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October 18, 2013, 05:18:33 PM
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Are you seriously saying they are not a scam because they didn't ask enough? 7500 BTC is one of the biggest IPOs in history.

Who would risk their lives for massive amounts of jail time for $700,000, are you mentally retarded?

Scam or not, more than one million shares were sold. That's well known and on its own 1-4k BTC.

Labcoin was profitable for me, because I followed this very simple strategy: set an alarm for new posts made by Swede or Sam in the Labcoin thread, evaluate, get in, get out as soon as the momentum stagnates and don't hold. The volatility was awesome!

And now imagine you are the one controlling this event-trigger/the one who publishes news and announcements. Just a very wild guess, but I would safely assume you could have extracted way more than 7k. Of couse you can't conclude that this is what happened, only because it could have happened, I'm just pointing out that the end of IPO doesn't necessarily mean the end of potential coin milking.

Background info on Alberto Armandi, whose connection for whatever reason to Fabz and Alessia is also well known, too: he was exposed and is seemingly not in jail. Estimated guess made in 2012 of the value he made during earlier scams: 25k BTC.

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October 18, 2013, 05:33:01 PM
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such amazing scammers that they would use their real identities and passports lmao. Yes they traded the news!! with high spreads and shitty volume that you couldn't sell enough to not crash the price down to nothing.
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October 18, 2013, 05:33:36 PM
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I just noticed cryptostocks only allows you to trade in 4 decimals after zero. Is this somehow adjustable or what ? Labcoin is probably worth under 0.0001 now

no it's not its .0009 on havelock, and will probably rise more with steady hashing and new hash rate that is added.
Scammer trying to pump scam. Anyone defending Labcoin should be considered an accomplice now.

Yes trying to pump by stating a fact. Good one

you can tell pankkake is a complete idiot. He doesn't comprehend the definition of pump. Can't pump something that doesn't trade retard lmao.

Again hence why George is a perfect avatar for a mental handicap like you.
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October 18, 2013, 06:54:24 PM
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btw, labcoin cant lock this thread, op is swede, mostly likely wont be locked

dexx, can you clarify a bit more on alberto connection with lab? i read those on reddit, but hard to sink into something sense
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October 18, 2013, 07:32:11 PM
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Still don't buy into the scam theory.

However, it is run by someone who thinks a pool has to be "asic ready".

It's guaranteed to fail.
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October 18, 2013, 07:44:48 PM
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Still don't buy into the scam theory.

However, it is run by someone who thinks a pool has to be "asic ready".

It's guaranteed to fail.

LOL

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