[LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)

[Puppet]

What does packaging mean exactly in terms of the chips?  Does bad packaging mean the chips have to be redone from scratch?

The package is what you see when you think of a chip.  Here is a qfp package:

http://www.toshiba-components.com/ASIC/images/QFP.jpg

CPU's and highend bitcoin asics are all bga packages, they look like this:

http://www.emeraldinsight.com/content_images/fig/2190090207005.png

The die is burried (soldered/glued) inside the package. Bad packaging means those chips are unfixable.  But the design may be fine, you can reused the mask, just need another production run (2-3 month)

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[VolanicEruptor]

He is keeping the BTC. No refunds!

Can you please not post misinformation?  He said if its a complete failure there would be, but not before Oct 15th.

[ishkur]

<+labcoin__> No sorry, i don't have a public linkedIn, or Facebook

What a surprise

Honestly I don't have then either and I know quite a few professionals who refuse to use them as well.

I'm not concerned with a questions like this

But proving he is Sam in other ways still needs to be done

[ampu]

Guys, I have just been contacted by labcoin _once_, and I never worked for them, and I am not related in any of their operations... please don't waste my (and your) time...

So it's not true you have been contacted by labcoin _once_
http://pastebin.com/ECm7V0LT

[Sou]

"can you move to a different pool that gives more transparency? BTCGuild is not working very well from an outside point of view, we get .05 deposits but we can’t see hashrate easily"

"it would take a lot of time. i'll see if it's doable."

What the fuck?! It would take a few hours. Half the people here could do it.

[zumzero]

So hardware incoming before 16th October and a guarantee to repay over 50% of ipo price should project fail, which is >0.0005.

This means that the minimal value for these shares should be >0.0005  so they are currently undervalued.

Shouldn't be too long before the market catches up to this great news.

Decent divs by the middle of October means the project is pressing ahead with or without the naysayers.

[minerpart]

you guys are being stupid -- maybe because you have bailed? you need to give them a chance now that the issues are clear and in the open. if they get the heat issues sorted this should be a big success.

[Puppet]

What does packaging mean exactly in terms of the chips?  Does bad packaging mean the chips have to be redone from scratch?

The package is what you see when you think of a chip.  Here is a qfp package:

http://www.toshiba-components.com/ASIC/images/QFP.jpg

CPU's and highend bitcoin asics are all bga packages, they look like this:

http://www.emeraldinsight.com/content_images/fig/2190090207005.png

The die is burried (soldered/glued) inside the package. Bad packaging means those chips are unfixable.  But the design may be fine, you can reused the mask, just need another production run (2-3 month)

He/she just said all of them are packaged. So, basically forget it.

[kingcrimson]

So no one cares about my last post where there is evidence showing that Fabrizio is using 'labcoin" forum name and Samuel Noi's name to sign forum posts?

http://pastebin.com/ECm7V0LT

Google translate - http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2FECm7V0LT

Great find, he pretty much admits he is posing as someone else to protect his identity.

<agath> you are?
[02:17] <agath> or rather 'who' :-)
[02:17] <route69> ah ok, Fabrizio Tatti
[02:19] <route69> this is the official presentation, here I am writing, but with the name of the nominee director that I took the company in Hong Kong
[02:20] <route69> because I want to avoid direct exposure, various risks, etc.
[02:20] <route69> in any case then I answer it legally
[02:20] <route69> for anything, even if there is a nominee director
[02:21] <route69> my name came up in the thread anyway
[02:21] <route69> + forward
[02:21] <route69> but it was obvious, however, the intention is not to hide, but avoid direct exposure

[Pompobit]

who is deleting his posts?

[cw92]

So hardware incoming before 16th October and a guarantee to repay over 50% of ipo price should project fail, which is >0.0005.

This means that the minimal value for these shares should be >0.0005  so they are currently undervalued.

Shouldn't be too long before the market catches up to this great news.

Decent divs by the middle of October means the project is pressing ahead with or without the naysayers.

Half you guys are just delusional at this point.  A "guarantee"?  Oh yes, because all of the other "guarantees" LC has made have been legitimate. 

[BitCsByBit]

So no one cares about my last post where there is evidence showing that Fabrizio is using 'labcoin" forum name and Samuel Noi's name to sign forum posts?

http://pastebin.com/ECm7V0LT

Google translate - http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2FECm7V0LT

Where did you find this?

Google search for Fabrizio ans ASIC.

Agath answered my PM and said that he was contacted one by Alessia and once by Fabrizio but that he didn't trust them.

Check my previous post for the main bit that Agath translated for me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3271317#msg3271317

[ewibit]

who is deleting his posts?

quotes of me are deleted too by

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[redbeans2012]

So hardware incoming before 16th October and a guarantee to repay over 50% of ipo price should project fail, which is >0.0005.

This means that the minimal value for these shares should be >0.0005  so they are currently undervalued.

Shouldn't be too long before the market catches up to this great news.

Decent divs by the middle of October means the project is pressing ahead with or without the naysayers.

Your posts switch sides like the wind.  Kinda obvious what you are trying to accomplish.

[zumzero]

So hardware incoming before 16th October and a guarantee to repay over 50% of ipo price should project fail, which is >0.0005.

This means that the minimal value for these shares should be >0.0005  so they are currently undervalued.

Shouldn't be too long before the market catches up to this great news.

Decent divs by the middle of October means the project is pressing ahead with or without the naysayers.

Half you guys are just delusional at this point.  A "guarantee"?  Oh yes, because all of the other "guarantees" LC has made have been legitimate.  

Sometimes you just need a little faith and believe in your fellow human beings.  This Labcoin dude appears genuine so let's give him a chance to make things right.

[redbeans2012]

I'm pretty certain that this Sam character doesn't exist.  Not sure how he will pull this off to get listed on Bitfunder ect.

[zumzero]

So hardware incoming before 16th October and a guarantee to repay over 50% of ipo price should project fail, which is >0.0005.

This means that the minimal value for these shares should be >0.0005  so they are currently undervalued.

Shouldn't be too long before the market catches up to this great news.

Decent divs by the middle of October means the project is pressing ahead with or without the naysayers.

Your posts switch sides like the wind.  Kinda obvious what you are trying to accomplish.

I am trying to make myself some money.  Of course I switch.  That's how you make money.  Currently I'm down but I'm not crying about it, just trying to improve things.  

EDIT:  In all honesty, apart from when I was spreading FUD hundreds of pages ago, I have spoken the truth based on how I saw it at the time.  I'm talking since I bought my first shares a couple of days ago.
I was in, I was out, and now I'm back in.  It's hardly surprising given the rollercoaster that is Labcoin.  One minute it's a scam, then there is a possibilty it isn't and so on.

[redbeans2012]

So hardware incoming before 16th October and a guarantee to repay over 50% of ipo price should project fail, which is >0.0005.

This means that the minimal value for these shares should be >0.0005  so they are currently undervalued.

Shouldn't be too long before the market catches up to this great news.

Decent divs by the middle of October means the project is pressing ahead with or without the naysayers.

Half you guys are just delusional at this point.  A "guarantee"?  Oh yes, because all of the other "guarantees" LC has made have been legitimate.  

Sometimes you just need a little faith and believe in your fellow human beings.  This Labcoin dude appears genuine so let's give him a chance to make things right.

So genuine he still will not prove his identity, or show us pictures of the hardware that is hashing.

[Puppet]

seems like he is running out of good questions. "<@radiumsoup> How much time do you spend on labcoin every day?". I guess the next is if she takes her coffee with sugar or milk.

Please ask for someone with a verifiable ID to vouch for this "sam".

[jinyoubei]

So you can sell at what? 0.0005?

So hardware incoming before 16th October and a guarantee to repay over 50% of ipo price should project fail, which is >0.0005.

This means that the minimal value for these shares should be >0.0005  so they are currently undervalued.

Shouldn't be too long before the market catches up to this great news.

Decent divs by the middle of October means the project is pressing ahead with or without the naysayers.

Half you guys are just delusional at this point.  A "guarantee"?  Oh yes, because all of the other "guarantees" LC has made have been legitimate.  

Sometimes you just need a little faith and believe in your fellow human beings.  This Labcoin dude appears genuine so let's give him a chance to make things right.