Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!

[Marvell2]

Well the fan you linked looks really loud though.  If noise is a problem (stealth, sleeping close by) then get a gable fan like a quiet cool model.  I have this one, its a 10speed with thermostat, so it changes speed depending on temperature and is quite silent.  I just mounted it in my garage on the back window and its doing a good job.  bit expensive though but so far i feel its good quality.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/QuietCool-Smart-2830-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-/253557171021

thats an exhuast fan right? i could put that above as extra exhasu possibly, I still need an intake, ill install one next week

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[Mashy81]

Hey Everyone... as some of you may remember, I have been having issues with GPU 0 on all 4 of my 6x470 rigs. Pretty sure the W10 Fall Creator's Update was the culprit (for some reason i could not stop this from installing on all my rigs), and have tried various versions of Claymore ETHash & Cryptonite-7 miners but always GPU 0 ends up going "open CL call fail restart"... over and over again.

Since I've been out of town most of April, I just turned GPU 0 off mining on all 4 rigs but now I am back and looking to get those 4 running again.

My first try is going to be a driver update, so I wanted to ask the experts on this thread which AMD drivers you are currently using or find to be the best/most stable.

I'm using 17.11.2 on all rigs which is quite old, so hoping a more recent driver will work better and fix that GPU 0 issue.

I'm far from an expert but I am using lastest amd drivers. Latest cast xmr and claymore 11.7.
I have a mix of rx550, rx570, rx580 and vega 56. They all behave and I get maximum hashrate on the latest amd drivers. Oh and windoze 10.

[rs1x]

Hey Everyone... as some of you may remember, I have been having issues with GPU 0 on all 4 of my 6x470 rigs. Pretty sure the W10 Fall Creator's Update was the culprit (for some reason i could not stop this from installing on all my rigs), and have tried various versions of Claymore ETHash & Cryptonite-7 miners but always GPU 0 ends up going "open CL call fail restart"... over and over again.

Since I've been out of town most of April, I just turned GPU 0 off mining on all 4 rigs but now I am back and looking to get those 4 running again.

My first try is going to be a driver update, so I wanted to ask the experts on this thread which AMD drivers you are currently using or find to be the best/most stable.

I'm using 17.11.2 on all rigs which is quite old, so hoping a more recent driver will work better and fix that GPU 0 issue.

You should try smos to see if it’s a windows versus Linux thing

[RsvTu]

Hey Everyone... as some of you may remember, I have been having issues with GPU 0 on all 4 of my 6x470 rigs. Pretty sure the W10 Fall Creator's Update was the culprit (for some reason i could not stop this from installing on all my rigs), and have tried various versions of Claymore ETHash & Cryptonite-7 miners but always GPU 0 ends up going "open CL call fail restart"... over and over again.

Since I've been out of town most of April, I just turned GPU 0 off mining on all 4 rigs but now I am back and looking to get those 4 running again.

My first try is going to be a driver update, so I wanted to ask the experts on this thread which AMD drivers you are currently using or find to be the best/most stable.

I'm using 17.11.2 on all rigs which is quite old, so hoping a more recent driver will work better and fix that GPU 0 issue.

Hey, do you have monitor or hdmi dummy plug connected to gpu0?

edit: Im using 18.3.4 and amd blockchain drivers...

[vapourminer]

Hey Everyone... as some of you may remember, I have been having issues with GPU 0 on all 4 of my 6x470 rigs. Pretty sure the W10 Fall Creator's Update was the culprit (for some reason i could not stop this from installing on all my rigs), and have tried various versions of Claymore ETHash & Cryptonite-7 miners but always GPU 0 ends up going "open CL call fail restart"... over and over again.

Since I've been out of town most of April, I just turned GPU 0 off mining on all 4 rigs but now I am back and looking to get those 4 running again.

My first try is going to be a driver update, so I wanted to ask the experts on this thread which AMD drivers you are currently using or find to be the best/most stable.

I'm using 17.11.2 on all rigs which is quite old, so hoping a more recent driver will work better and fix that GPU 0 issue.

using 17.11.2 here on my onda rig (mix of 470s and 1070/1080s, 7 cards total). seems super stable, rig stays up for months at a time. using cdm 11.4 on win 10 pro x64 ver 1709. 8 gb ram, 60 gig page file.

all updates have been disabled (and so far its worked great, no updates at all since the update services were disabled. about 6 months maybe. i installed 1709 manually.

i have a kvm plugged into the iGPU (G4400), so all gpus have nothing plugged into them. sure makes driver updates easier.

dunno if you use risers (onda is riserless) but that would be my 1st guess but im sure you already know that. and it happening on 4 rigs at the same times kinda rules that out.

any cards bios modded? used pixel patcher to get them recognized?

what mobo? any bios updates for it? any changes to the bios been done (pci gen mumber changes, 4g decode etc. even iGPU vs pci video init order changed?

my rig is mixed so all amd may have something to do with it? mine has a 470 in slot 0 (closest to cpu) then another 470, 460, 1070, 1070ti then 2x1080tis

[soothaa]

About to expand my farm.. looking at spending somewhere between $20,000-$40,000. Been making spreadsheets and trying to figure out what to buy.. any thoughts/input? My main concern is that Vegas are pretty much 1 trick ponies with the Cryptonight variants. Where nVidia algos seem to be easily ASIC'd. And AMD RX 500s rely heavily on ETH staying PoW..

Spreadsheet:

[citronick]

About to expand my farm.. looking at spending somewhere between $20,000-$40,000. Been making spreadsheets and trying to figure out what to buy.. any thoughts/input? My main concern is that Vegas are pretty much 1 trick ponies with the Cryptonight variants. Where nVidia algos seem to be easily ASIC'd. And AMD RX 500s rely heavily on ETH staying PoW..

Spreadsheet:

My ex-ETH farms are all finetuned to be mine CN7/Monero (470/480/Nano/390) @ 220khs... and a lower power bill.
If you can find RX570/580s - that will be a nice sweetspot, esp 570.
Anything NVIDIA, ZEC/Equihash is the safest and most profitable bet.
I gave up on the Vega project - its too expensive to implement to get too little...

If I have 40k to spare, I will get all L3+ that Bitmain can deliver below $500 a pop.
20GH/s of Scrypt is one fine farm...  

[soothaa]

My ex-ETH farms are all finetuned to be mine CN7/Monero (470/480/Nano/390) @ 220khs... and a lower power bill.
If you can find RX570/580s - that will be a nice sweetspot, esp 570.
Anything NVIDIA, ZEC/Equihash is the safest and most profitable bet.
I gave up on the Vega project - its too expensive to implement to get too little...

If I have 40k to spare, I will get all L3+ that Bitmain can deliver below $500 a pop.
20GH/s of Scrypt is one fine farm...  

Thanks for your input! Yes I would be doing ETH/Cryptonight on the RX 500s.

My only problem with nVidia say 1080tis is just how few I get and how much longer the ROI time is...

Vegas are hella good right now.. just riskier with the "only good at 1 algo" bit..

ASICs? Ewww.. I hadn't even considered them..

EDIT: I'm seeing $725 per L3+.. where are you getting $500??

EDIT2: $830 with PSU.. :puke:

[dragonmike]

About to expand my farm.. looking at spending somewhere between $20,000-$40,000. Been making spreadsheets and trying to figure out what to buy.. any thoughts/input? My main concern is that Vegas are pretty much 1 trick ponies with the Cryptonight variants. Where nVidia algos seem to be easily ASIC'd. And AMD RX 500s rely heavily on ETH staying PoW..

You might want to read this thread before you go in big in GPUs (or ASICs for that matter): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3459858.0

[soothaa]

About to expand my farm.. looking at spending somewhere between $20,000-$40,000. Been making spreadsheets and trying to figure out what to buy.. any thoughts/input? My main concern is that Vegas are pretty much 1 trick ponies with the Cryptonight variants. Where nVidia algos seem to be easily ASIC'd. And AMD RX 500s rely heavily on ETH staying PoW..

You might want to read this thread before you go in big in GPUs (or ASICs for that matter): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3459858.0

Holy crap thanks so much. Burning through this thread.

EDIT: looks like nothing is confirmed. This smells highly of "to good to be true"

[dragonmike]

About to expand my farm.. looking at spending somewhere between $20,000-$40,000. Been making spreadsheets and trying to figure out what to buy.. any thoughts/input? My main concern is that Vegas are pretty much 1 trick ponies with the Cryptonight variants. Where nVidia algos seem to be easily ASIC'd. And AMD RX 500s rely heavily on ETH staying PoW..

You might want to read this thread before you go in big in GPUs (or ASICs for that matter): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3459858.0

Holy crap thanks so much. Burning through this thread.

EDIT: looks like nothing is confirmed. This smells highly of "to good to be true"

Not necessarily.
The problem is we only have one guy's word.
If anyone knows a good & trustworthy fpga coder, now is the time to speak up!

[soothaa]

Not necessarily.
The problem is we only have one guy's word.
If anyone knows a good & trustworthy fpga coder, now is the time to speak up!

I've learned to always question everything. If I can any amount of proof I'll buying 3-5 of these cards for sure.

[fr4nkthetank]

Well the fan you linked looks really loud though.  If noise is a problem (stealth, sleeping close by) then get a gable fan like a quiet cool model.  I have this one, its a 10speed with thermostat, so it changes speed depending on temperature and is quite silent.  I just mounted it in my garage on the back window and its doing a good job.  bit expensive though but so far i feel its good quality.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/QuietCool-Smart-2830-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-/253557171021

thats an exhuast fan right? i could put that above as extra exhasu possibly, I still need an intake, ill install one next week

yeah you can mount it in a attic style configuration, but its 12 screws easy mount to cover a window space

[Storx]

Honestly if i had 40k to spend on expanding mining and you had the room, i would instead spend it on solar power... I have been shopping around local here to build a small solar farm on my property that i have all my rigs currently. Here in Florida you cant get a credit on solar unless you produce over a certain xxxx amount. So i have been shopping around and there is a solar panel manufacture called Sonali Solar in Miami, FL that quoted me some pretty amazing prices...

Pallet: 25 panels
305watt panels
$0.46/watt pricing

Small Container: 250 panels
305watt panels
$0.31/watt pricing

Or

A 50,400 watt complete system package

180 x panels
6 x 10.1KW 240vac inverters
Unirac 180 panel kit
cabling for kit setup

They priced me $33,675.40 shipped to my door, which comes out to $0.67 per watt if i do the install myself.


Right now im just trying to find out what permits and coding i would need to meet to install such a system, because if i could cut my $1500/month electric bill down to near $0 mining with the gear i already have, then that is a huge step in the right direction in the future of mining. Right now profits are a bit on the low side, so saving on electric seems more important in my book.... I could ROI on the solar in no time, since i would have to expand to use up the full 50kw in solar.

[soothaa]

Not a bad idea, but I'm in Ohio and solar pretty much sucks here.

[hawkfish007]

Honestly if i had 40k to spend on expanding mining and you had the room, i would instead spend it on solar power... I have been shopping around local here to build a small solar farm on my property that i have all my rigs currently. Here in Florida you cant get a credit on solar unless you produce over a certain xxxx amount. So i have been shopping around and there is a solar panel manufacture called Sonali Solar in Miami, FL that quoted me some pretty amazing prices...

Pallet: 25 panels
305watt panels
$0.46/watt pricing

Small Container: 250 panels
305watt panels
$0.31/watt pricing

Or

A 50,400 watt complete system package

180 x panels
6 x 10.1KW 240vac inverters
Unirac 180 panel kit
cabling for kit setup

They priced me $33,675.40 shipped to my door, which comes out to $0.67 per watt if i do the install myself.


Right now im just trying to find out what permits and coding i would need to meet to install such a system, because if i could cut my $1500/month electric bill down to near $0 mining with the gear i already have, then that is a huge step in the right direction in the future of mining. Right now profits are a bit on the low side, so saving on electric seems more important in my book.... I could ROI on the solar in no time, since i would have to expand to use up the full 50kw in solar.

For my rooftop 10.7 kW system, installation was the biggest part of total cost ~$1.60/watt including racks and cabling. Here in California installer had to posses C10 and someone on the payroll with roofing license to install solar.

[GabryRox]

Hey Everyone... as some of you may remember, I have been having issues with GPU 0 on all 4 of my 6x470 rigs. Pretty sure the W10 Fall Creator's Update was the culprit (for some reason i could not stop this from installing on all my rigs), and have tried various versions of Claymore ETHash & Cryptonite-7 miners but always GPU 0 ends up going "open CL call fail restart"... over and over again.

Since I've been out of town most of April, I just turned GPU 0 off mining on all 4 rigs but now I am back and looking to get those 4 running again.

My first try is going to be a driver update, so I wanted to ask the experts on this thread which AMD drivers you are currently using or find to be the best/most stable.

I'm using 17.11.2 on all rigs which is quite old, so hoping a more recent driver will work better and fix that GPU 0 issue.

using 17.11.2 here on my onda rig (mix of 470s and 1070/1080s, 7 cards total). seems super stable, rig stays up for months at a time. using cdm 11.4 on win 10 pro x64 ver 1709. 8 gb ram, 60 gig page file.

all updates have been disabled (and so far its worked great, no updates at all since the update services were disabled. about 6 months maybe. i installed 1709 manually.

i have a kvm plugged into the iGPU (G4400), so all gpus have nothing plugged into them. sure makes driver updates easier.

dunno if you use risers (onda is riserless) but that would be my 1st guess but im sure you already know that. and it happening on 4 rigs at the same times kinda rules that out.

any cards bios modded? used pixel patcher to get them recognized?

what mobo? any bios updates for it? any changes to the bios been done (pci gen mumber changes, 4g decode etc. even iGPU vs pci video init order changed?

my rig is mixed so all amd may have something to do with it? mine has a 470 in slot 0 (closest to cpu) then another 470, 460, 1070, 1070ti then 2x1080tis

Thanks Vapour and the others who replied.  Interestingly enough, my rig's config is almost identical to Vapours'... except that I am using risers and all 24 of my GPUs are MSI 470s... and the W10 version.  Mine shows as 10.0.16299... not sure how I tell which update was the last as with your 1709.

To answer some of your other questions...

- I have 2 Biostar TB85 and 2 ASRock H81 Pro BTC R2.0 Mobo's.  I have never touched the bios settings on any of these boards.

- All 24 GPU's were Bios modded using the strap-1500 method. After this W10 update and previous driver changes, I always used pixel patcher to get the cards recognized.  Also used the DDU driver cleaner prior to install.

All of these methods worked after any prior update to OS or Drivers but not this time. If it were just 1 or maybe 2 rigs with GPU 0 I too would thing risers gone bad. But like you said, in this case with all 4 doing the same thing, it statistically rules out hardware issues IMO.  I may go ahead and try swapping out 1 or 2 risers just for sanity sake first though, just because it's a lot less tediouos than messing with driver updates.  But alas, I suspect this will be an issue of finding the right set of AMD drivers that play nicely with the version of W10 on my rigs.

I have seen 18.3.4 mentioned a few times so may try that first.  Seems that was the last version before the 18,4.1 was released 3 days ago.

[Marvell2]

Honestly if i had 40k to spend on expanding mining and you had the room, i would instead spend it on solar power... I have been shopping around local here to build a small solar farm on my property that i have all my rigs currently. Here in Florida you cant get a credit on solar unless you produce over a certain xxxx amount. So i have been shopping around and there is a solar panel manufacture called Sonali Solar in Miami, FL that quoted me some pretty amazing prices...

Pallet: 25 panels
305watt panels
$0.46/watt pricing

Small Container: 250 panels
305watt panels
$0.31/watt pricing

Or

A 50,400 watt complete system package

180 x panels
6 x 10.1KW 240vac inverters
Unirac 180 panel kit
cabling for kit setup

They priced me $33,675.40 shipped to my door, which comes out to $0.67 per watt if i do the install myself.


Right now im just trying to find out what permits and coding i would need to meet to install such a system, because if i could cut my $1500/month electric bill down to near $0 mining with the gear i already have, then that is a huge step in the right direction in the future of mining. Right now profits are a bit on the low side, so saving on electric seems more important in my book.... I could ROI on the solar in no time, since i would have to expand to use up the full 50kw in solar.

For my rooftop 10.7 kW system, installation was the biggest part of total cost ~$1.60/watt including racks and cabling. Here in California installer had to posses C10 and someone on the payroll with roofing license to install solar.

thats a great plan man, with free or dirt cheap power even older hardware would still be profitable for yesrs

installation is the issue though, if u do a diy you get zero waranties on the install and parts can get voided waranties if the install had issues.  Just be careful

[Marvell2]

Hey Everyone... as some of you may remember, I have been having issues with GPU 0 on all 4 of my 6x470 rigs. Pretty sure the W10 Fall Creator's Update was the culprit (for some reason i could not stop this from installing on all my rigs), and have tried various versions of Claymore ETHash & Cryptonite-7 miners but always GPU 0 ends up going "open CL call fail restart"... over and over again.

Since I've been out of town most of April, I just turned GPU 0 off mining on all 4 rigs but now I am back and looking to get those 4 running again.

My first try is going to be a driver update, so I wanted to ask the experts on this thread which AMD drivers you are currently using or find to be the best/most stable.

I'm using 17.11.2 on all rigs which is quite old, so hoping a more recent driver will work better and fix that GPU 0 issue.

using 17.11.2 here on my onda rig (mix of 470s and 1070/1080s, 7 cards total). seems super stable, rig stays up for months at a time. using cdm 11.4 on win 10 pro x64 ver 1709. 8 gb ram, 60 gig page file.

all updates have been disabled (and so far its worked great, no updates at all since the update services were disabled. about 6 months maybe. i installed 1709 manually.

i have a kvm plugged into the iGPU (G4400), so all gpus have nothing plugged into them. sure makes driver updates easier.

dunno if you use risers (onda is riserless) but that would be my 1st guess but im sure you already know that. and it happening on 4 rigs at the same times kinda rules that out.

any cards bios modded? used pixel patcher to get them recognized?

what mobo? any bios updates for it? any changes to the bios been done (pci gen mumber changes, 4g decode etc. even iGPU vs pci video init order changed?

my rig is mixed so all amd may have something to do with it? mine has a 470 in slot 0 (closest to cpu) then another 470, 460, 1070, 1070ti then 2x1080tis

Thanks Vapour and the others who replied.  Interestingly enough, my rig's config is almost identical to Vapours'... except that I am using risers and all 24 of my GPUs are MSI 470s... and the W10 version.  Mine shows as 10.0.16299... not sure how I tell which update was the last as with your 1709.

To answer some of your other questions...

- I have 2 Biostar TB85 and 2 ASRock H81 Pro BTC R2.0 Mobo's.  I have never touched the bios settings on any of these boards.

- All 24 GPU's were Bios modded using the strap-1500 method. After this W10 update and previous driver changes, I always used pixel patcher to get the cards recognized.  Also used the DDU driver cleaner prior to install.

All of these methods worked after any prior update to OS or Drivers but not this time. If it were just 1 or maybe 2 rigs with GPU 0 I too would thing risers gone bad. But like you said, in this case with all 4 doing the same thing, it statistically rules out hardware issues IMO.  I may go ahead and try swapping out 1 or 2 risers just for sanity sake first though, just because it's a lot less tediouos than messing with driver updates.  But alas, I suspect this will be an issue of finding the right set of AMD drivers that play nicely with the version of W10 on my rigs.

I have seen 18.3.4 mentioned a few times so may try that first.  Seems that was the last version before the 18,4.1 was released 3 days ago.

i have a bunch of those gpus, i still use the blockchain aug 23 drivers no issues, a few cards go bad and i just rma them, id pull the cards one by one and isolate the offenders and run them in another rig , if that doesn’t work u have a bad card

[Marvell2]

Well the fan you linked looks really loud though.  If noise is a problem (stealth, sleeping close by) then get a gable fan like a quiet cool model.  I have this one, its a 10speed with thermostat, so it changes speed depending on temperature and is quite silent.  I just mounted it in my garage on the back window and its doing a good job.  bit expensive though but so far i feel its good quality.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/QuietCool-Smart-2830-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-/253557171021

thats an exhuast fan right? i could put that above as extra exhasu possibly, I still need an intake, ill install one next week

yeah you can mount it in a attic style configuration, but its 12 screws easy mount to cover a window space

thanks, after i get my intake installed or i go with @phillma’s trench ide ill look in to that, i need a filtered intake is my problem, i have major dust issues as it is