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good to know, market is growing, but unfortunately this site is useless for non-chinese
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June 09, 2015, 01:49:26 PM |
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good to know, market is growing, but unfortunately this site is useless for non-chinese As you mention it, I consider this information crucial as, when market moves, there is a considerable volume there.... The main concern is that there is a market with huge moves... once chinese move it, the rest of the world will follow ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .... By the way, there is also another concern.... : did you consider that this exchange moved a huge part of the total ZET volume ?
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June 09, 2015, 03:35:27 PM |
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there may be coincidence with huge move on bter.com, unfortunately, jubi.com doesn't have crypto / zet, only CNY / ZET
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June 09, 2015, 10:17:26 PM |
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So yeah, Zetacoin was here before your time, and will probably still be here when you leave.
As long as Sachs and Bryce are still around to scheme and scam, yes Zetacoin will always be around.
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June 11, 2015, 01:18:20 AM |
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So yeah, Zetacoin was here before your time, and will probably still be here when you leave.
As long as Sachs and Bryce are still around to scheme and scam, yes Zetacoin will always be around. What is the current scam strategy for them? Disassociate and do nothing? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Welcome back Giskard aka Bryce Weiner aka Crypto-Charlatan of 2014-15. Zetacoin is a scam coin, a lon-con likely designed by Bryce in collusion with another scammer Samuel Young, of Sydney Australia. It's not tongue-cut mouthpiece, obvious fraudster Joseph Henderson (BitcoinSachs), was also involved as a naive know-it-all + totally clueless moron. Massive amounts of data on them, thanks to the help of numerous white-hats in crypto, have been coallating and organizing information on them which as been submitted to Interpol, the SEC, FTC and IRS. Zetacoin is, in all true senses, worthless, and so, as humans, are the fruadsters behind its long-con pump and dump. Many people warned many of you about this long ago. Max Dolphin and company, especially. Here is a recent PDF they published with makes a strong case (omitted a large amount of data only divulged to law enforcement, so as to prevent them from somehow extricating themselves from the situation further than the silence that reigns among them and their shills. @Cmshindi (aka 'Koen Saarin', likely Samuel Young) @Tconspiracychef (also Samul Young) @BryceWeiner @Bitcoinsachs (Joseph Henderson) ....re the key names you will see appear in in an unforseeable timeline (international cybercrime investigation takes a long time, as do most deep-cover operations by law enforcement) All of their assets will be seized they will likely spend years in prison. Don't say, again, nobody warned you. Here is the recent PDF in question: http://issuu.com/zetacoinjustice/docs/zetacoin_review_webGood luck, good people of crypto. To the scammers, you were sold-out from the start. When you covort with crimininals, it only takes one if you to fold before plea-bargaining takes priority over honor among theives. Toodles. PandaCommanda
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June 12, 2015, 06:49:52 AM |
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Troll post from newbie accounts like @PandaCommanda are excellent indicators of a coming price rise. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I'm buying some Zetacoin now.
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June 12, 2015, 06:55:16 AM |
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You are stuck in late 2013/early 2014 logic. Probably in your late teens early twenties, with a penchant for gambling? I have been around for 3 years and I am in my late 30's. My account is over a year old. And everything I have said reflects a long-view knowledge of things that happened before you had your eyes open.
There are legions of bagholders fooled by Bryce, Joe and Sam, not dis-similar to you. I could give a shit about any coin once I lucked out long ago, by sheer accident, and now simply watch and commit myself to educating people.
Believe me or not, but in six months, or when you see a Panda in the future, think of me and promise me you'll learn the lesson I am trying to impart.
Best wishes.
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June 12, 2015, 06:57:30 AM |
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Oh yes, you just registered your account about a month ago.
But you are in your 30's. Puzzling.
Anyways, good luck.
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June 12, 2015, 07:06:07 AM |
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![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Welcome back Giskard aka Bryce Weiner aka Crypto-Charlatan of 2014-15. Zetacoin is a scam coin, a lon-con likely designed by Bryce in collusion with another scammer Samuel Young, of Sydney Australia. It's not tongue-cut mouthpiece, obvious fraudster Joseph Henderson (BitcoinSachs), was also involved as a naive know-it-all + totally clueless moron. @Cmshindi (aka 'Koen Saarin', likely Samuel Young) @Tconspiracychef (also Samul Young) @BryceWeiner @Bitcoinsachs (Joseph Henderson) I am not Bryce Weiner. Sorry to disappoint after so much research. Whatever your problem is with these people and their schemes, they were never part of the Zetacoin dev team, they acted on they own initiative.
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June 12, 2015, 07:31:15 AM Last edit: June 12, 2015, 08:05:53 AM by tuaris |
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I am wondering, PandaCommanda why put so much effort into attacking Zetacoin? You post shows some time was spent. I can't imagine that your simply doing it out of the goodness of your heart to save people from themselves.
The age of a forum account means nothing. It's the account status that shows credibility, and you sir have no creditability.
Zetacoin is a currency just like Bitcoin and the USD. A currency can not be a SCAM, your thought process is flawed. There will always be individuals who will use the said currency for "SCAMS". Right here in the United States, good old US Dollars are being used to SCAM hard working citizens every minute. The same problem exits in every country with every currency.
Whether it's crypto or fiat, scams will always exists because there are bad people out there.
Is Zetacoin a Scam? no, are the individuals you listed bad people? perhaps. Is the Zetacoin creator one of those individuals? I highly doubt it.
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June 12, 2015, 07:41:13 AM Last edit: June 12, 2015, 08:11:23 AM by myfirst |
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LOL I get it now, your one of those Blackcoin losers. I believe it was 1 year ago that Blackcoin zealots where spamming the Zetacoin boards and trying to pump their coin. A Blackcoin was worth about 95k satoshi last year, today it's 6k satoshi. Zetacoin 2k satoshi one year ago, today 2k satoshi. LOL!!! You are stuck in late 2013/early 2014 logic. Probably in your late teens early twenties, with a penchant for gambling? I have been around for 3 years and I am in my late 30's. My account is over a year old. And everything I have said reflects a long-view knowledge of things that happened before you had your eyes open.
There are legions of bagholders fooled by Bryce, Joe and Sam, not dis-similar to you. I could give a shit about any coin once I lucked out long ago, by sheer accident, and now simply watch and commit myself to educating people.
Believe me or not, but in six months, or when you see a Panda in the future, think of me and promise me you'll learn the lesson I am trying to impart.
Best wishes.
By the way, your link is malicious (adware/spyware infested website). But yeah, troll posts like @PandaCommanda do indicate a temporary price rise is coming. I've seen it over and over for every coin. It's a good time to make some extra BTC.
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June 12, 2015, 04:06:38 PM |
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You get nothing. I am one of those Darkcoin winners because I understood, from the larger social/political concerns at the time, which still persist, that even the premise that a coin *could* offer total anonymity would be over-valued at some point by mass psychology. I took the advice of traders I trust, because I do not excel in that area--but I excel at understanding whom to trust and whose advice may or may not be lied, depending upon exigent contingencies and what they, alone, stood to gain from the advice of one person or another. It was an intution, and it was lucky, and I sold at the top. I turned 3K into 50K and listened to my father's wise words: Pigs get fed, Hogs get slaughtered. If you need a translation of that idiom, you're already doomed.
It is so plain to the mind's eye that the entire popularization of Zetacoin was predicated upon a long-con, as is widely known to anyone who knows what the "the ANN" was. If didn't know that, before reading the PDF, you have little room to speak boorishly about my supposed ignorance or ulterior motives.
"Oh NOW I get it!" is a rhetorical dead-end, as well as this non-sequitor to Blackcoin.
Dude, it's your money.
Good luck.
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June 12, 2015, 04:11:01 PM |
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P.S. And the link is most definitely not malicious. Your statement indicates one of two possibilities, or both A) you are lying B) you have not read it. Thus, literally, you have no idea what you are talking about. I
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June 12, 2015, 04:21:02 PM |
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"I can't imagine that your simply doing it out of the goodness of your heart to save people from themselves."
Yes, I agree and believe you cannot imagine such motives because they are foreign to your own abilities to think beyond the range of how you, yourself, operate. Much in the same way homophones mute their cognitive dissoance by only referring to being gay as a "lifestyle choice", and accepting, cognitively, no other POSSIBLE explaination other than a fantastical one buried in denial and ignorance---never once reflecting that their own straightness was obviously not a "choice" they made---and thus never seeing the fundamental fallacy of their own premises.
You thus have inadvertently revealed your own character, while making no intelligble comment on my own, except by appealing to a forum's activity-status as a metric of personal accountability---another complete non-sequitor example of fallacious logic.
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June 13, 2015, 03:33:30 AM Last edit: June 13, 2015, 04:59:17 AM by tuaris |
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So we now have group with vendetta against Zetacoin. This is good. You need to setup your own outlets, maybe come up with a name for yourselves too. For ideas, look at what the anti-Bitcoin and anti-Darkcoin/Dash groups do.
Problem is you'll need a stronger argument. Clamming that an entire currency system (Zetacoin) is a scam due to the actions of a few individuals won't stand up well.
Sadly I can't help you. Nothing wrong with Zetacoin. No pre-mine, no hidden code, no gimmicks. Just fair and even distribution.
Perhaps Zetacoin being clean from the start made it a prime choice for the named individuals.
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June 13, 2015, 04:26:45 AM |
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Dude, it's your money.
Good luck.
Thanks, but I had a little help thanks to you. I bought 40k ZET @17xx satoshi when you posted, sold it a few hours later at 2700+ satoshi and made a little over 0.3 BTC in profits. I know it's not much. Looking forward to the next one.
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June 13, 2015, 05:05:42 AM |
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I bought 40k ZET @17xx satoshi when you posted, sold it a few hours later at 2700+ satoshi and made a little over 0.3 BTC in profits.
Yeah the price was being kept artificially low under 0.0001800. Then all of a sudden the sell orders disappear and buy order start coming back. I wish I had bought and sold. Oh well, maybe next time. I've seen it happen quite often, looks like there is a ZET/BTC whale with a bot pointed at all the major exchanges.
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June 13, 2015, 06:33:36 AM |
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I bought 40k ZET @17xx satoshi when you posted, sold it a few hours later at 2700+ satoshi and made a little over 0.3 BTC in profits.
Yeah the price was being kept artificially low under 0.0001800. Then all of a sudden the sell orders disappear and buy order start coming back. I wish I had bought and sold. Oh well, maybe next time. I've seen it happen quite often, looks like there is a ZET/BTC whale with a bot pointed at all the major exchanges. We need whales.... and plankton too ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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June 13, 2015, 08:37:03 PM |
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I am not Bryce Weiner. Sorry to disappoint after so much research.
Whatever your problem is with these people and their schemes, they were never part of the Zetacoin dev team, they acted on they own initiative.
The question is not our problems but rather do YOU have a problem with it? As the creator of Zetacoin you should be condemning their actions that have tainted the name of it. You sat silent for months while the Zbad crooks were fleecing investors left and right and did nothing. You could have stepped in and said something because I just find it hard to believe this crew who practically WORSHIPPED your coin (at least pretended to) did not do anything to reach out to the actual creator and inform them of their plans or try to sucker him too. Either you were in on the scam too or you got hosed like the rest of us, there is no middle ground.
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