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February 06, 2018, 07:53:10 AM |
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You know that we are probably going lower than that? Market is manipulated and sell-off is due to big investors cashing and crashing out whole market.
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February 06, 2018, 08:06:17 AM |
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You know that we are probably going lower than that? Market is manipulated and sell-off is due to big investors cashing and crashing out whole market.
Yes, sub-$1000 in due course; however, one wave at a time!
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February 06, 2018, 03:24:39 PM |
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Hmm strange. It stopped bleeding at no point. 7.5K retracement and more drop? In other words wtf, is with it. I guess retracement to 8k
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February 06, 2018, 03:31:23 PM |
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Hmm strange. It stopped bleeding at no point. 7.5K retracement and more drop? In other words wtf, is with it. I guess retracement to 8k
The US senate is hearing testimony on bitcoin from the SEC, and they've released pdfs of the testimony and it seems positive towards cryptocurrency. That's why the sell-off stopped. In the meanwhile, bloomberg think MACD is the key indicator to watch when trying to figure out bitcoin's direction: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-06/bitcoin-trading-signal-that-returned-1-152-is-flashing-sell
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February 06, 2018, 03:32:33 PM |
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If this is only the first wave of the crash, then we will have a rebound.
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Amidst a global stock market flash crash, a spectacular sell-off continues in cryptocurrencies at an acceleration quicker than anticipated! Rather surprisingly, the 61.8% Fibonacci retracement level from the all-time highs, and nearby zones of clustered support levels (derived from wave extension relationships); have all failed to provide any meaningful areas of confluence. And so therefore, the next natural support zone is at the 78.6% Fibonacci retracement level from the all-time highs; i.e. at $4257 (Bitfinex). In regards to the anatomy of wave formation, a rare Triple Zig-Zag structure may be in progress to conclude the final stages of the first crash wave. https://i.imgur.com/NzuDwh2.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/YzLeo24.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/igYrfW3.pngDespite not being in the crypto Market, after reading several forums and articles I am impressed on your work. It is a pleassure to read you. I must admit I just registered just to comment on this post I am curious if possible to know which equations do you use to make this graphs. It seems so far that the prediction despite time has been quite accurate or am I missing some part?
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February 06, 2018, 05:18:28 PM |
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He seems to be pro trader, without emotion involved (wish to be so good in time). I predicted this drop too, but not so fast ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) . I thought we will have at 8 and 7K more bounces - but it goes straight to hell, worse than 2014 seriously.
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February 06, 2018, 06:04:38 PM |
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Amidst a global stock market flash crash, a spectacular sell-off continues in cryptocurrencies at an acceleration quicker than anticipated! Rather surprisingly, the 61.8% Fibonacci retracement level from the all-time highs, and nearby zones of clustered support levels (derived from wave extension relationships); have all failed to provide any meaningful areas of confluence. And so therefore, the next natural support zone is at the 78.6% Fibonacci retracement level from the all-time highs; i.e. at $4257 (Bitfinex). In regards to the anatomy of wave formation, a rare Triple Zig-Zag structure may be in progress to conclude the final stages of the first crash wave. https://i.imgur.com/NzuDwh2.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/YzLeo24.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/igYrfW3.pngDespite not being in the crypto Market, after reading several forums and articles I am impressed on your work. It is a pleassure to read you. I must admit I just registered just to comment on this post I am curious if possible to know which equations do you use to make this graphs. It seems so far that the prediction despite time has been quite accurate or am I missing some part? The graphs are made using TradingView.com for free. The analysis on the charts; i.e. the Elliott Wave labeling is manually done by myself and doesn't require equations. The internal structure of the waves can unfold in many possibilities; i.e. the assumed Triple Zig-Zag structure isn't going to plan as expected; however, the overall larger wave structure thus far remains in place. The graphs are always indicative of wave form and price, not time; the analysis could unfold sooner or later.
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February 06, 2018, 06:16:37 PM |
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He seems to be pro trader, without emotion involved (wish to be so good in time). I predicted this drop too, but not so fast ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) . I thought we will have at 8 and 7K more bounces - but it goes straight to hell, worse than 2014 seriously. Definitely not a pro, make my fair share of mistakes which can be emotional!
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February 06, 2018, 06:55:07 PM |
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I just want to thank you. You saved me some money already.
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February 06, 2018, 06:58:19 PM |
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Amidst a global stock market flash crash, a spectacular sell-off continues in cryptocurrencies at an acceleration quicker than anticipated! Rather surprisingly, the 61.8% Fibonacci retracement level from the all-time highs, and nearby zones of clustered support levels (derived from wave extension relationships); have all failed to provide any meaningful areas of confluence. And so therefore, the next natural support zone is at the 78.6% Fibonacci retracement level from the all-time highs; i.e. at $4257 (Bitfinex). In regards to the anatomy of wave formation, a rare Triple Zig-Zag structure may be in progress to conclude the final stages of the first crash wave. https://i.imgur.com/NzuDwh2.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/YzLeo24.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/igYrfW3.pngDespite not being in the crypto Market, after reading several forums and articles I am impressed on your work. It is a pleassure to read you. I must admit I just registered just to comment on this post I am curious if possible to know which equations do you use to make this graphs. It seems so far that the prediction despite time has been quite accurate or am I missing some part? The graphs are made using TradingView.com for free. The analysis on the charts; i.e. the Elliott Wave labeling is manually done by myself and doesn't require equations. The internal structure of the waves can unfold in many possibilities; i.e. the assumed Triple Zig-Zag structure isn't going to plan as expected; however, the overall larger wave structure thus far remains in place. The graphs are always indicative of wave form and price, not time; the analysis could unfold sooner or later. Again a pleassure to read you. Thanks for answering me. I do agree on the overall structure. I have been following the rate at GDAX when it jumps a little comments start appearing saying the bottom has been reached, but when you start zooming out is amazing how it sticks to your first assumption on Jan 16. As we can see it seems that the time.is shortening or that the reations are faster even when the volume that is being operated is double since yesterday night ( I would assume that the less volume.the most easy to change) Any papper / article you suggest on the Elliot wave subject? Regards Edit: when you talk about the Fibonacci, you refer to the sequence? where this sequence is appied?
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Despite not being in the crypto Market, after reading several forums and articles I am impressed on your work. It is a pleassure to read you. I must admit I just registered just to comment on this post
I am curious if possible to know which equations do you use to make this graphs. It seems so far that the prediction despite time has been quite accurate or am I missing some part?
Wow, OP is getting new fans ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Congratulations, idea worked! In fact not everything was accurate. Even OP with his grim outlook was expecting BTC to bounce back from 61.8% level. That was the huge support level according to any serious analyst. However I suppose this market is manipulated so much technical analysis cannot really help much here. Poor fellow Masterluk was completely puzzled too ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I have a feeling someone with heaps of money is "painting" those graphs on exchanges, and makes them look the way traders could feel comfortable with ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Currently that "someone" carefully paints "bubble burst" picture, to seed panic, to make his media predictions true, and to make traders feel like the end of the world and dump everything. VERY serious players got into this fresh market. You are expecting sub-1k? Interesting. I wouldn't wait for price to go that deep. Too much people wait for such levels to buy in, so you may miss your chance. Somewhere above that level, should be the point where the big bounce begins. Even manipulators cannot do anything there (even if they wanted to). In fact even 2k is practically "FREE" coins.
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February 06, 2018, 08:11:45 PM |
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Again a pleassure to read you. Thanks for answering me.
I do agree on the overall structure. I have been following the rate at GDAX when it jumps a little comments start appearing saying the bottom has been reached, but when you start zooming out is amazing how it sticks to your first assumption on Jan 16.
As we can see it seems that the time.is shortening or that the reations are faster even when the volume that is being operated is double since yesterday night ( I would assume that the less volume.the most easy to change)
Any papper / article you suggest on the Elliot wave subject?
Regards
Edit: when you talk about the Fibonacci, you refer to the sequence? where this sequence is appied?
Personally recommend the following books in regards to Elliott Wave theory (available until Mar 23 2018)... 1. Elliott Wave Principle: Key to Market Behavior Robert R. Prechter, A.J. Frost https://files.fm/u/pnmaksvv (77MB) 2. Visual Guide to Elliott Wave Trading (Bloomberg Financial) Wayne Gorman, Jeffrey Kennedy https://files.fm/u/mcg8me4m (33MB) Start with the second book since it provides a visual introduction to illustrating the use of Fibonacci concepts.
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February 06, 2018, 08:21:52 PM |
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Personally recommend the following books in regards to Elliott Wave theory (available until Mar 23 2018)... 1. Elliott Wave Principle: Key to Market Behavior Robert R. Prechter, A.J. Frost https://files.fm/u/pnmaksvv (77MB) 2. Visual Guide to Elliott Wave Trading (Bloomberg Financial) Wayne Gorman, Jeffrey Kennedy https://files.fm/u/mcg8me4m (33MB) Start with the second book since it provides a visual introduction to illustrating the use of Fibonacci concepts. Downloaded both. Thank you!
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February 06, 2018, 10:11:07 PM |
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Despite not being in the crypto Market, after reading several forums and articles I am impressed on your work. It is a pleassure to read you. I must admit I just registered just to comment on this post
I am curious if possible to know which equations do you use to make this graphs. It seems so far that the prediction despite time has been quite accurate or am I missing some part?
Wow, OP is getting new fans ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Congratulations, idea worked! In fact not everything was accurate. Even OP with his grim outlook was expecting BTC to bounce back from 61.8% level. That was the huge support level according to any serious analyst. However I suppose this market is manipulated so much technical analysis cannot really help much here. Poor fellow Masterluk was completely puzzled too ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I have a feeling someone with a heaps of money is "drawing" those graphs on exchanges, and makes them look the way traders could feel comfortable with ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Currently that "someone" carefully draws "bubble burst" picture, to seed panic, to make his media predictions true, and to make traders feel like the end of the world and dump everything. Very serious players got into this fresh market. You are expecting sub-1k? Interesting. I wouldn't wait for price to go that deep. Too much people wait for such levels to buy in, so you may miss your chance. Somewhere above that level, should be the point where the big bounce begins. Even manipulators cannot do anything there (even if they wanted to). In fact even 2k is practically "FREE" coins. Yeah market is manipulated so much i cant think of. I really dont know i should participate in it, it's a shitshow in reality. The bounce was strong and with volume, makes me believe that someone bought a lot. Still we are in downtrend and it can go up to 9K resistance for now.
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February 06, 2018, 10:14:09 PM |
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2018 Cryptocurrency Crash
To my future self:" I was there, was fun. Next time sell immediately after such a take off".
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February 07, 2018, 10:26:37 AM |
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Since bouncing from exactly 6000 (Bitfinex), the market has staged a 30% rally from the lows. This is thus far the largest rally since the downtrend sell-off leg that started on 20-JAN-2018. There were two bounces within the downtrend that began on 20-JAN-2018; i.e. as follows: 1. 23-JAN-2018 to 28-JAN-2018: 22% bounce 2. 02-FEB-2018 to 03-FEB-2018: 19% bounce Given the current bounce from the 6000 lows has now exceeded the average 20% bounce size, it may suggest that the downtrend which began on 20-JAN-2018 is now complete; and by extension, it may suggest a completed wave structure which has ended the first leg of the crash. The expectation would be a Primary degree b-wave bounce which may retrace up to 38.2% of the Primary a-wave decline which began on 06-JAN-2018. However, there are previous levels of support which may serve as resistance as follows: 1. 9350: approx previous line of support/resistance. 2. 9946: 50% Fibonacci retracement level of entire market. 3. 10298: 38.2% Fibonacci retracement of the decline which began on 06-JAN-2018 Any one of the aforementioned levels may serve as targets for the bounce, with the average being 9865. However, exuberance may propel towards the psychological 10000 given the proximity. Elliott Wave Principle: Key to Market Behavior, Robert Prechter: "b-waves — b-waves are phonies. They are sucker plays, bull traps, speculators' paradise, orgies of oddlotter mentality or expressions of dumb institutional complacency (or both). They often involve a focus on a narrow list of stocks, are often 'unconfirmed' by other averages, are rarely technically strong, and are virtually always doomed to complete retracement by c-wave. If the analyst can easily say to himself, 'there is something wrong with this market', chances are it's a b-wave." Speculative and idealised Elliott Wave model indicative of price and structure, not time: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfZkBsRM.png&t=665&c=qbNrKgJYBiQfcA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fthk6hWP.png&t=665&c=eZ1S7o390cfMuA)
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February 07, 2018, 11:29:28 AM Last edit: February 07, 2018, 12:07:54 PM by muf18 |
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Since bouncing from exactly 6000 (Bitfinex), the market has staged a 30% rally from the lows. This is thus far the largest rally since the downtrend sell-off leg that started on 20-JAN-2018. There were two bounces within the downtrend that began on 20-JAN-2018; i.e. as follows: 1. 23-JAN-2018 to 28-JAN-2018: 22% bounce 2. 02-FEB-2018 to 03-FEB-2018: 19% bounce Given the current bounce from the 6000 lows has now exceeded the average 20% bounce size, it may suggest that the downtrend which began on 20-JAN-2018 is now complete; and by extension, it may suggest a completed wave structure which has ended the first leg of the crash. The expectation would be a Primary degree b-wave bounce which may retrace up to 38.2% of the Primary a-wave decline which began on 06-JAN-2018. However, there are previous levels of support which may serve as resistance as follows: 1. 9350: approx previous line of support/resistance. 2. 9946: 50% Fibonacci retracement level of entire market. 3. 10298: 38.2% Fibonacci retracement of the decline which began on 06-JAN-2018 Any one of the aforementioned levels may serve as targets for the bounce, with the average being 9865. However, exuberance may propel towards the psychological 10000 given the proximity. Elliott Wave Principle: Key to Market Behavior, Robert Prechter: "b-waves — b-waves are phonies. They are sucker plays, bull traps, speculators' paradise, orgies of oddlotter mentality or expressions of dumb institutional complacency (or both). They often involve a focus on a narrow list of stocks, are often 'unconfirmed' by other averages, are rarely technically strong, and are virtually always doomed to complete retracement by c-wave. If the analyst can easily say to himself, 'there is something wrong with this market', chances are it's a b-wave." Speculative and idealised Elliott Wave model indicative of price and structure, not time: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfZkBsRM.png&t=665&c=qbNrKgJYBiQfcA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fthk6hWP.png&t=665&c=eZ1S7o390cfMuA) Calculating on previous pattern, we can see that first drop ended on 340-345$ (here 6000$). Rebound was to - 680$ -> 11800$ ? Then drop to 180-200$ -> 3100 - 3200$ ? Ok, I read about elliot waves and cycles more carefully, now I understand, so in your opinion, you think we are going to have B-wave in the big corrective more move, which first moves appeared from 2014?
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February 07, 2018, 06:17:56 PM |
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Calculating on previous pattern, we can see that first drop ended on 340-345$ (here 6000$). Rebound was to - 680$ -> 11800$ ? Then drop to 180-200$ -> 3100 - 3200$ ? Ok, I read about elliot waves and cycles more carefully, now I understand, so in your opinion, you think we are going to have B-wave in the big corrective more move, which first moves appeared from 2014?
—From 06-JAN-2018 to 06-FEB-2018 (exactly 1 month), Bitcoin dropped from 17174 to 6000 (Bitfinex) at a loss of 65%. —This 1 month decline is being considered and labelled as Primary-a wave. —The analysis suggests that this Primary-a wave is now over at 6000, and a Primary-b bounce to around 9865 on average is now underway. —Once the Primary-b wave bounce is over, the market would be expected to decline to new lows, which would be labelled as a Primary-c decline. —The completed Primary-a-b-c structure would be part of an overall completed Cycle-c wave. Of course, that's the guesswork and speculation; we'll have to see how the market plays! Indicative of structure, not time... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fz6nvi4o.png&t=665&c=NfJlrohl8L5fNw)
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February 07, 2018, 07:48:27 PM |
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Calculating on previous pattern, we can see that first drop ended on 340-345$ (here 6000$). Rebound was to - 680$ -> 11800$ ? Then drop to 180-200$ -> 3100 - 3200$ ? Ok, I read about elliot waves and cycles more carefully, now I understand, so in your opinion, you think we are going to have B-wave in the big corrective more move, which first moves appeared from 2014?
—From 06-JAN-2018 to 06-FEB-2018 (exactly 1 month), Bitcoin dropped from 17174 to 6000 (Bitfinex) at a loss of 65%. —This 1 month decline is being considered and labelled as Primary-a wave. —The analysis suggests that this Primary-a wave is now over at 6000, and a Primary-b bounce to around 9865 on average is now underway. —Once the Primary-b wave bounce is over, the market would be expected to decline to new lows, which would be labelled as a Primary-c decline. —The completed Primary-a-b-c structure would be part of an overall completed Cycle-c wave. Of course, that's the guesswork and speculation; we'll have to see how the market plays! Indicative of structure, not time... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fz6nvi4o.png&t=665&c=NfJlrohl8L5fNw) Do you consider, that historic patterns too, have some play here? Btw. calling the same target - https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/6GuxadAx-Manipulated-Dump/
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