No, its not luck. (So sorry, no high probability for getting a supermodel GF, hate to burst your bubble
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Sonny has been warned by his "supervised release" judge that his company smells like fraud and if more cases will be won against BFL he will go back to jail.
He will be under court supervision for the next two years.
He only narrowly escaped going back to prison earlier this year, as he had to appear before a judge.
BTW did you know BFL had at least 16m$ in Paypal preorders alone?
yeah ...not sure how that shakes out I was told back in the day just after paypal stopped refunds is they stopped
them because bfl was out of cash and they canceled any new paypal with bfl that was last fall i think?...not sure if that means
they burned thru 16 million in refunds this last summer/fall including the with in 45 day folks at that time?
(possible i dumped 1/2 in time 180gh ...it is the last 1/2 that took a year that drove me to fits)
Nah, from reading in between the lines, back in late March/April 2013 BFL alluded to the idea that they were refunding PayPal orders via Paypals "send payment" option. If that was the case...and I believed it was back then....they seemed to be [speculation] circumventing the regular refund method with a substitute method on their PayPal merchant account. Very likely to keep PayPal from noticing/flagging a huge number of refund requests by PayPals standard accounting practices. Was it a very good plan to circumvent the quality control and safeguards at PayPal? (If that was indeed the case?)
Anyway, I then exposed/proposed that "IF" this were ever the case, it was indeed crafty...but with one fatal flaw. It would expose BFL's own customers to an incredibly temptation of "double tapping" the refund window. In effect, a BFL customer could see it as BFL having sent them a sort of "freebie" payment out of the blue while still leaving the customer with the open option to still initiate the process of ordering a valid refund request via their control panel.
Hence, possibly opening the door to a sort of PayPal induced pandoras box.
I said as much back then. I recall a very irate Inaba/Josh started attacking me for even mentioning such a possibility. He seemed adamantly concerned about my mentioning of it. Strangely, shortly thereafter, very strangely...PayPal and BFL had an apparent confrontation. Its difficult to pierce the veil of what happened.
I can only guess BFL saw some kind of unknown influx of "proper" refund requests that suddenly made PayPal pounce on their merchant account. Strangely, PayPal seemed to ask BFL to come up with tracking numbers for their customers. (I know the deal since I have undergone that too).
There was a bit of a toss up from customers around that time, many bemoaned sudden influxes of fake tracking numbers that didn't actually show anything. Who knows what that was about?
Then, if you read in between the lines and speculate on what bled through, apparently BFL was also asked by PayPal to show proof that they had either A) Hardware or B) had a working prototype.
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Very surprisingly, the first hacked together, barely functioning (and far over spec) prototype popped up just then. Mystery mystery.
Of course, it was a piece of crap that looked like it was about to blow a fuse. On April fools I believe they "delivered" a prototype to one of the Bitcoin developers. By delivered, I mean neither shipped nor actually leaving the development facility. Apparently a delivery only in name (and affixed to a metal board surrounded by testing equipment @ Butterfly Labs.)
I recall they also just barely missed having to pay a 1000 BTC bet by minutes by protesting that to constitute a shipment to a customer. [??]
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After the apparent 45 days you'd expect Paypal to have given. Things went south with PayPal. Their account was likely suspended and they couldn't seemingly take in credit card orders through PayPal from what I could glean. Further passing comments seemed to indicate that at least Josh wasn't happy about Paypal.
They started a rather false campaign to create illusions that they had reached a shipping stage. (And hence no one could ask for refunds anymore) In all that hoopla they [I felt] literally tricked people into signing away their agreement that they were in it for the long haul. I warned folks but too many idiots fell openly for it. Too bad for them.
When they came to realize they had just agreed not to get a refund poof, they were screwed. And shipping was still months away.
People (later helped by a fellow Bitcointalk member) to discharge funds from (what I can only assume) was a frozen account with an unknown number of dollars. A number of people got their money back. Then the account apparently ran dry.
The rest is history?
I've mentioned before in threads that I'm lucky he is a convicted felon...or I'd be soooooo out of luck...i doubt the class action
would have got me a refund by itself ..the combo of the two is my guess
of course "miracles' require no proof...the act of 'faith' is enough
.so who is the saint of bitcoin miners? ....seems they came thru on bfl customers heh
(hmm we need to take a vote...move this to a 'higher plain of argument"....obviously divine intervention IS involved!
Searing
Nah. But it would be nice if it were.
