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⭐Name: Wasabi Wallet🔹Clearnet link: https://wasabiwallet.io🔹Tor link: wasabiukrxmkdgve5kynjztuovbg43uxcbcxn6y2okcrsg7gb6jdmbad.onion/ 🔹Bitcointalk thread link: Here 🔹Fees: 0.003% 🔹Minimum amount: 0.1 BTCMaybe it would be a good idea to state that the 0.003% has to be multiplied by another factor to get the actual fee. This other factor is the „anonymity set” which is basically the number of participants of the CoinJoin. Wasabi's default anonymity set that it considers as „sufficient to evade low-level blockchain forensics analysis“ is 50. So in this case the total fee would be 0.003% * 50 = 0,15% Source: docs.wasabiwallet.io
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June 28, 2021, 10:06:56 PM Last edit: June 28, 2021, 10:49:24 PM by LeGaulois |
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Fair enough. I'm late but I updated the details and added 1 more scam to the list: Bitcoinmixer.io. I've never caught this one :/ Removed the Tor V2 URL for Anonymixer too, as asked, since the V3 URL is ready (see here). The V2 will continue to work until it's possible. If you still want to use it, get the link directly from their website or ANN thread. More mixers will update to V3 in the next following days By the way, I crawled the web and it's crazy the number of blogs/websites that provide URLs redirecting to scam mixers. This week I will check the first 10 pages of the SERP and I will surely find a couple of scammers edit: another scam bitcoin-laundry.online
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what happened to the maker Kilos, why is it not on the list? They scam.?
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what happened to the maker Kilos, why is it not on the list? They scam.?
I have got to be honest with you. I have been active in this forum from around 2017, been busting scam bitcoin mixers at some point, but I have never heard about kilos mixer or whatever it's name is. Care to elaborate? At least share their URL and I do some digging myself?
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July 03, 2021, 08:17:22 AM |
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what happened to the maker Kilos, why is it not on the list? They scam.?
I have got to be honest with you. I have been active in this forum from around 2017, been busting scam bitcoin mixers at some point, but I have never heard about kilos mixer or whatever it's name is. Care to elaborate? At least share their URL and I do some digging myself? Yes, I really forgot to attach the link. Here she is. http://dnmugu4755642434.onion/mixer It has been around for a long time and has been in featured mixers before in the first post of this thread.
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July 21, 2021, 01:18:48 AM Last edit: July 21, 2021, 01:03:21 PM by LeGaulois |
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The summer doesn't stop scammers... Adding 3 more scams to the list - chipmixer.one - chipbitmixer.com - https: //xn--chipmixr-z30d.com/index.html (IDN homograph attack) more to come... edit: Update the ChipMixer Tor url to v3? It's done. Sorry, I was a bit busy recently edit 2: personnal note: A few mixers are under DDOS, so I'm unable to access their website. There is one I'm not sure it's a DDOS attack. It looks like to me there is no website uploaded on the server (the end?). As for now all onions links have been updated, except mixers still using V2. No idea why they don't use V3 personnal note 2: still waiting a reply to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5052876.msg57471856#msg57471856
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Update the ChipMixer Tor url to v3? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I'd say it's time to remove this one from the list: ⭐Name: WhaleMixer This is why: " WhaleMixer" is collecting negative feedback, including mine, and is a proven liar.
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I'd say it's time to remove this one from the list: ⭐Name: WhaleMixer This is why: " WhaleMixer" is collecting negative feedback, including mine, and is a proven liar. Too bad for us that they are not a good mixer, as it is a good idea that someone could mix their coins with a reliable mixer and get "clean" coins (traceable back to exchanges, etc.) back. Because many US exchanges and merchants do not like "dirty" coins (tainted by drug markets, thefts, ransomware, etc.) , there would likely be a real demand for such clean ones. Someone will probably come along in due course and offer a straightforward and honest service. And probably make lots of money...
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July 24, 2021, 07:35:17 AM Last edit: July 24, 2021, 07:52:00 AM by mocacinno |
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I'd say it's time to remove this one from the list: ⭐Name: WhaleMixer This is why: " WhaleMixer" is collecting negative feedback, including mine, and is a proven liar. +1 This one does not belong on a list between other mixers... They have lied about quite a lot, they've been proven wrong and they don't keep their promises. --snip--
Too bad for us that they are not a good mixer, as it is a good idea that someone could mix their coins with a reliable mixer and get "clean" coins (traceable back to exchanges, etc.) back. Because many US exchanges and merchants do not like "dirty" coins (tainted by drug markets, thefts, ransomware, etc.) , there would likely be a real demand for such clean ones.
Someone will probably come along in due course and offer a straightforward and honest service. And probably make lots of money...
Indeed, but if you want coinbase rewards in exchange for your traceable coin, this is NOT the place... Tryninja shared his mixing session, and i could not find even a reasonable amount of the "clean" coins coming from a coinbase reward. They're just lying about "farm fresh" coins coming from "their" miners... In reality you get "unknown" funds... I don't know where they come from, but defenately NOT from a miner. Seeing what they lied about, and the amateurism, i would not trust a mixing session with this mixer... I'd probably advise anybody who used them to re-mix their coins, and treat this mixer's mixing session's outputs as "slightly"-mixed. Here's a post i made listing their lies: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314083.msg57452097#msg57452097Since making this post, other lies have come to surface: - They had to admit they're not automated at all
- They admitted not holding the amount of funds they say they hold... It's their "partners" that hold thousands of BTC, not them
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July 25, 2021, 09:35:18 PM |
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I did read the case, if it's the same
Usually, I wait some days before removing a service: The reason is it deserves to give time to mixers since we all have a life outside, it may take time to check what happened and the users complaining may come back several days after to tell us it's ok or never come back. Just trying to be fair between mixers.
I practice this way, especially when I feel it's an isolated case. Of course, if there are a dozen people complaining in the same period of time, there is no question to wonder.
I also know that some people try to make others believe that X or Y mixer is a scam when it is not true. It even happened that I tested the blenders myself to verify the claims or the (baseless) "rumors"
Updated post #1 and adding coino-mize.com to the scam list
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I did read the case, if it's the same
Usually, I wait some days before removing a service: The reason is it deserves to give time to mixers since we all have a life outside, it may take time to check what happened and the users complaining may come back several days after to tell us it's ok or never come back. Just trying to be fair between mixers.
I practice this way, especially when I feel it's an isolated case. Of course, if there are a dozen people complaining in the same period of time, there is no question to wonder.
I also know that some people try to make others believe that X or Y mixer is a scam when it is not true. It even happened that I tested the blenders myself to verify the claims or the (baseless) "rumors"
Updated post #1 and adding coino-mize.com to the scam list
In your opinion is fair, in mine is not! If you added a red flag or anything to it after first unresolved accusations I would had made some research before sending 1BTC or I would had just used another mixer. But as I saw it in trusted list I assumed it is safe to use them! You tried to be fair with the mixer, I think you should try to do what is more fair for the customers as they are the ones who can get scammed and lose funds but there is NO WAY for the mixers to get scammed! But again.. that is my opinion, I am sure mixers have different ones! It is strange that they did not moved the coin since I sent it to them..
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July 26, 2021, 11:39:38 AM |
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I did read the case, if it's the same
Usually, I wait some days before removing a service: The reason is it deserves to give time to mixers since we all have a life outside, it may take time to check what happened and the users complaining may come back several days after to tell us it's ok or never come back. Just trying to be fair between mixers.
I practice this way, especially when I feel it's an isolated case. Of course, if there are a dozen people complaining in the same period of time, there is no question to wonder.
I also know that some people try to make others believe that X or Y mixer is a scam when it is not true. It even happened that I tested the blenders myself to verify the claims or the (baseless) "rumors" --snip--
Ordinarily, i'd agree with you when you say you want to be fair to a mixer and give them a chance... However, in this case, i'd personally advocate to remove the mixer from the list during the "grace"-period. If the owner comes back and resolves the accusations, you can re-list them, if he doesn't you can add them to your scam list. That way it can't make new victims from readers of your topic. I do believe this is a case that warrants such an approach: - It's a really new mixer... you won't destroy their reputation by not listing them for a couple of days
- There are 2 "in progress" scam reports, and also resolved reports... Way to much for the short time they've been in business
- They've been provably caught lying about many, many key features they try to sell
I've been following this case from the beginning, and i'd even go as far as saying "they're not a real mixer". This is just a one-man mom's basement service that had a nice layout built (filled with lies) and just processes mixes manually while lying about the origin of their "clean" funds. I know this is your show, and i'll defenatly agree with whatever decission you make on the case... I'd just argue that in this case, the site didn't even belong on your list in the first place (with all the lies, with the manual processing, without proof of funds,...) , and now they've stopped withdrawing i think it would be better to safe than sorry and (at least temporary) stop listing them.
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Almost all the links to our forum have been corrupted in your post. The http protocol is specified instead of the https protocol. And here the closing tag [/url] was lost. After the words "clone of [banned mixer]".
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What about making your own due diligence too? I mean, this topic is not a "bulletproof" topic and people have to also search by themselves. Whatever I write, people still need to verify. We are adults and talking about money, it seems to be something quite natural to do. (Apparently not). I put the links to the respective announcements threads for people to see what's going on If you searched about this mixer, you could have found about the first issue (maybe before me) and decide to not use it
I think I will now listen to you and follow this approach.
Thanks for telling me. I remember I used textmechanic to sort the list in alphabetical order and probably played too much with the "find and replace" feature. I fixed everything
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Whalemixer is under scam accusation criticism. Is there any other mixers that take BCH?
Is there a thread regarding whalemixer case? EDIT: found threads, a few ones.
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July 28, 2021, 10:40:43 AM |
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Whalemixer is under scam accusation criticism. Is there any other mixers that take BCH?
Is there a thread regarding whalemixer case?
this is one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350930.0but their main ann thread also contains their lies and some scam accusations: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314083.0Bottom line, however, no matter how you read these threads: whalemixer's operator hasn't been seen in 10 days, he hasn't replied anyone, he hasn't addressed any scam accusions whilst his "canary" on his site is still updated every day. This could mean his canary is fake (like many other things on his site), but even that doesn't resonate all that well to me either. Even when he was online, i did not trust the quality of his mixes. He sells "freshly mined" coins, and delivers exactly the opposite: i had unspent outputs in my wallet that contained a much higher percentage of coinbase rewards within a reasonable distance just by accident compared to the ones he is supposed to be selling on purpose.
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