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October 15, 2018, 11:18:23 AM
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Hello, I was a bounties farmer when I started here, now I participate in around 10 bounties because I've learned that bitcoin is the bull for everything, I was a noob at the start now I've understood that the quality is better than quantity.

I've started with 10 merit and now I'm near to 400, something good I've done for the forum I fight a lot of scammers some example of my reports

11+4 full members/seniors alt accounts abusing bounties, Need DT
 15 Alts waiting for red trust from DT  
Merit abuser + abusing bounty with high rank and green trust, need DT
1 MAN 560+ accounts on the forum, Millions of tokens abused.
Is this Legendary the main account of those abusers? 1 alt also missing red tag
or something different like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3054205.msg31449020#msg31449020
and many more.

I've reported hundreds of abusers over these months, and it took a lot of hours. Let me know if I can have this bonus, it helps on my way from junior to Hero member.

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Hello @QuestionAuthority, Its seems you are helping peoples to rank up by send merit. I appreciate your thought. Since you are a merit source and second position on Most generous merit senders, all time, you know better than me where you should spend merit. Because I am still new on this forum. But I disagree about some point because I believe you should handover merit on right place.

For example : You have sent 30 merit for "Nice" comment,
nice

I don't believe he deserve 30 merit for this.

On the other hand peoples submitting post on this thread for review. I guesses you are not reading their post, really they deserve or not. Because you sending merit here on his reply.

For example : I have submitted this post, Exposed scam ICO list by Coolcryptovator. You should review and send merit on submitted post if deserve, should not send on this reply (IMO).

However there are lots of good contributor better than "nice" comment. Merit is one time spendable you can't return them. So please try to handover on right place.

Apologize for suggestion, I just share what I think.  

Just five comments before that one, you find why those 30merit went there:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg46588186#msg46588186

Oh, I am going to do one thing before I sign off for now. Since most people are off work/school today because it’s the weekend, and there should be more people on line than during the week and I have too much merit laying around, the next 5 people to respond to this thread get 30 merit.

Fair? Not fair? Idc honestly

You could have simply submitted your post without complaining on how he decides to spend his smerits, since as you pointed out he’s pretty generous helping the community grow Smiley

Now all your comment sounds just like “hey look at me I deserve better”

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But I disagree about some point because I believe you should handover merit on right place.
What do you mean by "right place"? because sometimes it depends from person to person even though theymos encouraged people to sent their sMerits to the posts are objectively high quality. I have seen that some of the members sent their sMerits for useless ANN thread replies, some for just images for making the OP laugh, some for signature campaign bounty threads, some for supporting the merit source application so and so. But most of the members still giving away their sMerits for the posts which truly deserved.  

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For example : You have sent 30 merit for "Nice" comment,
nice

I don't believe he deserve 30 merit for this.
The post you highlighted is not worthy to be merited, but we can find so many posts, mems getting merited in wall observer thread which actually didn't deserved too. That doesn't mean I justified what QA has been done (since he is a merit source). Simply that thread has its own subculture and its own way of giving away merits whether we liked or not. I think you're worried about the amount (30 for one liner), but we should have talk about the what admin/staff has to be done in order to get back on the wall observer thread to the right track again.

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On the other hand peoples submitting post on this thread for review. I guesses you are not reading their post, really they deserve or not. Because you sending merit here on his reply.
I'm not agreeing with that. How do you know QA is not reading any post (I'm talking about this thread only) and just give merits blindly? Sending merits for reply doesn't mean that he didn't read. BTW he didn't award merits for all the users who applied.    

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For example : I have submitted this post, Exposed scam ICO list by Coolcryptovator. You should review and send merit on submitted post if deserve, should not send on this reply (IMO).
You cant just say "You should review and sent merit on submitted post" for an another member specially to the OP who starts this thread. This is his and his idea only like you have done (giving away one merits to the Jr members to rank up which is a good thing) early days in bitcointalk forum. Your words sounds like an order which isn't a good thing.  

Actually can you point out any member who do you really believed not to be merited in this thread?

Because the post that you highlighted is not belong to here and it should be addressed separately (which is already discussing under reputation thread).  

I have seen that some of the members award merits by looking at their post history also, some members award their merits for the appreciation of the particular member but not the particular post. Maybe QA belong to that some member category which isn't a bad thing at all as far as I see.

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However there are lots of good contributor better than "nice" comment. Merit is one time spendable you can't return them. So please try to handover on right place.
Agreed, but is this the right place to discuss?

I'm hoping QA is spent more than enough time in the forum to determine whether the post/poster is good or bad before awarding merits.

If some one willing to get merit from here than he will not write any negetive about OP. He will support OP, like you did. You should know about some one before write negetive.
You are wrong and I am a member who got merits from QA, but that didn't bothered me to talk about what he has done wrongly by sending merits for just one liner. Don't generalize all the members who got merited from this thread with other merit beggars. Some will find out one or two incidents from large number of merit transactions which done correctly and good manner when they didn't get merited from the OP as well.  



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October 21, 2018, 04:21:54 PM
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I have deleted my replies due to admin agree with spend merit even 50 per post. So there is no chance to complain about any merit source if they aren't involve with merit sale. Obviously its better to spend merit rather than dry it. So according to theymos there is nothing to think about it. Hope QuestionAuthority will continue helping community. Best of luck.  


If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me. It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

Aside from that, if people complain about whether things deserve merit at all, then that's something to perhaps think about, but if you conclude that they're wrong, then that's that. You don't need to stress about it or defend yourself constantly. It's conceivable that someday you and I will end up disagreeing too much about this stuff and I'll remove your source status, but it's really not a big deal.

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October 23, 2018, 02:15:34 PM
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Full members, Sr. Members and Hero Members really got screwed with the merit system. Some of them were really close to leveling up and now have to wait until they’ve impressed the right person to probably get only one merit point from them. The most extreme case of this is Hero Member. They may need hundreds of merit points to level up which could take a very long time to get.


Well said, as with the day of merit-introduction I was 2 periods away from becoming Sr. Member. Unfortunatelly I´ve started a full-time job in the same month so that the time for quality to collect 150 fresh Merits was short.

Anyway meanwhile I´ve managed to collect a good amount and just in time found out your thread.

Thus I´d like to take the chance:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2249486.msg45678981#msg45678981

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2249486.msg43945684#msg43945684

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4905507.msg44175000#msg44175000

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2249486.msg40908907#msg40908907

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2844302.msg37385827#msg37385827

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3203837.msg33472340#msg33472340

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October 23, 2018, 03:51:47 PM
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I'm newbie sir, I really happy being marited. Am I qualified to join?

Note : I only make good post. NEVER make shitpost and spam.

I think people should really learn to be happy with what they already have. You are still a "newbie" with not even a month of activity with this account, you are almost @ 50 merits and here you are, almost begging for more...

Anyway, I also know this is none of my business, it's just that I can't get inside of my head the reason behind people being so greedy.

Good luck!
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October 24, 2018, 06:27:53 PM
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Apologies to all concerned, I will no longer be handing out merit in this thread. Theymos removed me as a merit source because he disagreed with the way I spent my merit. I will leave this thread open and you can continue to post merit requests here if you like; however, I won’t be answering them.

Good luck to all.

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November 04, 2018, 08:55:33 AM
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Apologies to all concerned, I will no longer be handing out merit in this thread. Theymos removed me as a merit source because he disagreed with the way I spent my merit. I will leave this thread open and you can continue to post merit requests here if you like; however, I won’t be answering them.

Good luck to all.

CBH

mmm pity, we did enjoy youre wall observer drops HAHA fun times

take care

(one shot in here )

only thing i really have to say is when you believe in BTC and the true value of BTC (a decentralized asset), then the choice is made very quickly buy and live with it when and where you can, build the community by using it (HODL it for a part) .   
maybe using it is little personal cause some see it as store of value others to pay bigger amounts, other for fast transactions etc
people biggest problem with BTC is they wanna get rich quick, and can't bear the DUMPs that last a few months but can't change everyone ofcourse....
for me its a clear pad , decentralized,scarce,increasing user counts, fast in using ,easy to private own whitout anyone knowing and so on

i didn't start any good threads in this forum, only some give away threads (such as guessing games where a BTC price is rewarded for the closest one to the question)
such as .  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056734.0    "there are a few more like it"

but there are no wise words to be found only pleasure and fun to mix up a bit here and there.





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Apologies to all concerned, I will no longer be handing out merit in this thread. Theymos removed me as a merit source because he disagreed with the way I spent my merit. I will leave this thread open and you can continue to post merit requests here if you like; however, I won’t be answering them.

Good luck to all.

CBH

mmm pity, we did enjoy youre wall observer drops HAHA fun times

take care

(one shot in here )

only thing i really have to say is when you believe in BTC and the true value of BTC (a decentralized asset), then the choice is made very quickly buy and live with it when and where you can, build the community by using it (HODL it for a part) .   
maybe using it is little personal cause some see it as store of value others to pay bigger amounts, other for fast transactions etc
people biggest problem with BTC is they wanna get rich quick, and can't bear the DUMPs that last a few months but can't change everyone ofcourse....
for me its a clear pad , decentralized,scarce,increasing user counts, fast in using ,easy to private own whitout anyone knowing and so on

i didn't start any good threads in this forum, only some give away threads (such as guessing games where a BTC price is rewarded for the closest one to the question)
such as .  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056734.0    "there are a few more like it"

but there are no wise words to be found only pleasure and fun to mix up a bit here and there.






 I think you hit the nail on the head. No one promotes the US dollar, gold, or any other medium of exchange. The use of any currency needs to grow organically over time or be used as a national currency.  The fact that bitcoin has to be promoted to be used speaks too it’s impending failure. As a get rich quick scheme bitcoin has worked for many, as a currency it’s worked for a few.

 For bitcoin to succeed people need to stop thinking about it every day and simply use it when they need to. I don’t think about how much money I have in the bank until I need to make a purchase. Everyone needs to do that with bitcoin. Bitcoin is doomed as a currency because no one sees it as anything but an investment.

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November 07, 2018, 09:43:36 PM
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Apologies to all concerned, I will no longer be handing out merit in this thread. Theymos removed me as a merit source because he disagreed with the way I spent my merit. I will leave this thread open and you can continue to post merit requests here if you like; however, I won’t be answering them.

Good luck to all.

CBH

mmm pity, we did enjoy youre wall observer drops HAHA fun times

take care

(one shot in here )

only thing i really have to say is when you believe in BTC and the true value of BTC (a decentralized asset), then the choice is made very quickly buy and live with it when and where you can, build the community by using it (HODL it for a part) .   
maybe using it is little personal cause some see it as store of value others to pay bigger amounts, other for fast transactions etc
people biggest problem with BTC is they wanna get rich quick, and can't bear the DUMPs that last a few months but can't change everyone ofcourse....
for me its a clear pad , decentralized,scarce,increasing user counts, fast in using ,easy to private own whitout anyone knowing and so on

i didn't start any good threads in this forum, only some give away threads (such as guessing games where a BTC price is rewarded for the closest one to the question)
such as .  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5056734.0    "there are a few more like it"

but there are no wise words to be found only pleasure and fun to mix up a bit here and there.






 I think you hit the nail on the head. No one promotes the US dollar, gold, or any other medium of exchange. The use of any currency needs to grow organically over time or be used as a national currency.  The fact that bitcoin has to be promoted to be used speaks too it’s impending failure. As a get rich quick scheme bitcoin has worked for many, as a currency it’s worked for a few.

 For bitcoin to succeed people need to stop thinking about it every day and simply use it when they need to. I don’t think about how much money I have in the bank until I need to make a purchase. Everyone needs to do that with bitcoin. Bitcoin is doomed as a currency because no one sees it as anything but an investment.

yeah i know i do buy BTC to spend and do buy  BTC to HODL.... better said whats in cold storage remains there (part of investment)
but i'm sure i did make more BTC transactions as payment as average "bitcoiner" so i feel myself as a guy living to use it for all of it purposes....
did buy online with BTC payments, in poker world use it for transactions, having a private game with some friends always playing with BTC sized buy ins and btc bets..... (all the game is in BTC, as payment), do some give away games on the thread with BTC etc
think i have a good group of friends cause many many coiners.....

but take care and come to the WO from time to time ....... Wink

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November 07, 2018, 10:10:27 PM
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I think you hit the nail on the head. No one promotes the US dollar, gold, or any other medium of exchange. The use of any currency needs to grow organically over time or be used as a national currency.  The fact that bitcoin has to be promoted to be used speaks too it’s impending failure. As a get rich quick scheme bitcoin has worked for many, as a currency it’s worked for a few.

I cannot identify, QA, whether you turned too much into a bitcoin naysayer, but get real, bitcoin is in early stages, so you cannot expect it to be serving all purposes (especially the currency) ones while it is still in such early stages.

And, your assertion of bitcoin's supposed "impending failure" comes off as quite gloomy.  Do you think that there is some other coin that is more equipped than bitcoin to accomplish the job of sound money?  Do you think sound money is valuable?  Who gives a ratt's ass about whether bitcoin has enough promotion, publicity and advertisement?  The reason so many shit coins engage in high level of advertisement is because they are actual shit (at least compared to the sound money aspects of bitcoin), and just trying to get folks to buy into their inferiority and to suggest that they are either superior to bitcoin or that bitcoin has some kinds of defects that those other bullshit advertised coins are overcoming.

So, in fact, whether bitcoin has advertising or not, the sound money aspect of bitcoin (as long as sound money remains much stronger in bitcoin than any other coin or project) is going to continue to attract folks to buying and accumulating bitcoin.  Spending may or may not follow in the short term, but I doubt that it matters so much as long as their are other shittier currencies to spend (likely into the foreseeable future) under gresham law dynamics.

Actually 50 or 100 years down the road, when many of us are going to be dead, there might be some different dynamics if bitcoin does become the only one currency, and then you will have to spend it, but that situation is so damned far into the future that it would be quite problematic to be theorizing BTC's present use case(s) as if such situation already existed (and like I mention we are way the hell off from being even close to such a bitcoin is the only currency scenario with far less than 1% of any kind of meaningful currency and asset (commodity) market share).

For bitcoin to succeed people need to stop thinking about it every day and simply use it when they need to. I don’t think about how much money I have in the bank until I need to make a purchase. Everyone needs to do that with bitcoin. Bitcoin is doomed as a currency because no one sees it as anything but an investment.

BTC is Doomed?  You see some better candidates?  how about accounting for my assertions above, do those assertions affect your thinking at least in terms of comparing present situation to future situation, and realizing that this whole currency/asset question is not exactly a settled matter based on equally "mature" markets, right?

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November 08, 2018, 04:30:31 AM
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I think you hit the nail on the head. No one promotes the US dollar, gold, or any other medium of exchange. The use of any currency needs to grow organically over time or be used as a national currency.  The fact that bitcoin has to be promoted to be used speaks too it’s impending failure. As a get rich quick scheme bitcoin has worked for many, as a currency it’s worked for a few.

I cannot identify, QA, whether you turned too much into a bitcoin naysayer, but get real, bitcoin is in early stages, so you cannot expect it to be serving all purposes (especially the currency) ones while it is still in such early stages.

And, your assertion of bitcoin's supposed "impending failure" comes off as quite gloomy.  Do you think that there is some other coin that is more equipped than bitcoin to accomplish the job of sound money?  Do you think sound money is valuable?  Who gives a ratt's ass about whether bitcoin has enough promotion, publicity and advertisement?  The reason so many shit coins engage in high level of advertisement is because they are actual shit (at least compared to the sound money aspects of bitcoin), and just trying to get folks to buy into their inferiority and to suggest that they are either superior to bitcoin or that bitcoin has some kinds of defects that those other bullshit advertised coins are overcoming.

So, in fact, whether bitcoin has advertising or not, the sound money aspect of bitcoin (as long as sound money remains much stronger in bitcoin than any other coin or project) is going to continue to attract folks to buying and accumulating bitcoin.  Spending may or may not follow in the short term, but I doubt that it matters so much as long as their are other shittier currencies to spend (likely into the foreseeable future) under gresham law dynamics.

Actually 50 or 100 years down the road, when many of us are going to be dead, there might be some different dynamics if bitcoin does become the only one currency, and then you will have to spend it, but that situation is so damned far into the future that it would be quite problematic to be theorizing BTC's present use case(s) as if such situation already existed (and like I mention we are way the hell off from being even close to such a bitcoin is the only currency scenario with far less than 1% of any kind of meaningful currency and asset (commodity) market share).

For bitcoin to succeed people need to stop thinking about it every day and simply use it when they need to. I don’t think about how much money I have in the bank until I need to make a purchase. Everyone needs to do that with bitcoin. Bitcoin is doomed as a currency because no one sees it as anything but an investment.

BTC is Doomed?  You see some better candidates?  how about accounting for my assertions above, do those assertions affect your thinking at least in terms of comparing present situation to future situation, and realizing that this whole currency/asset question is not exactly a settled matter based on equally "mature" markets, right?

Jay, people need to start using bitcoin as a currency and not just an investment. Bitcoin is a failure if all its ever going to be is an etf or a penny stock.  There are no better candidates. I see all of the altcoins as nothing more than a get rich quick scheme for their creators.

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I think you hit the nail on the head. No one promotes the US dollar, gold, or any other medium of exchange. The use of any currency needs to grow organically over time or be used as a national currency.  The fact that bitcoin has to be promoted to be used speaks too it’s impending failure. As a get rich quick scheme bitcoin has worked for many, as a currency it’s worked for a few.

I cannot identify, QA, whether you turned too much into a bitcoin naysayer, but get real, bitcoin is in early stages, so you cannot expect it to be serving all purposes (especially the currency) ones while it is still in such early stages.

And, your assertion of bitcoin's supposed "impending failure" comes off as quite gloomy.  Do you think that there is some other coin that is more equipped than bitcoin to accomplish the job of sound money?  Do you think sound money is valuable?  Who gives a ratt's ass about whether bitcoin has enough promotion, publicity and advertisement?  The reason so many shit coins engage in high level of advertisement is because they are actual shit (at least compared to the sound money aspects of bitcoin), and just trying to get folks to buy into their inferiority and to suggest that they are either superior to bitcoin or that bitcoin has some kinds of defects that those other bullshit advertised coins are overcoming.

So, in fact, whether bitcoin has advertising or not, the sound money aspect of bitcoin (as long as sound money remains much stronger in bitcoin than any other coin or project) is going to continue to attract folks to buying and accumulating bitcoin.  Spending may or may not follow in the short term, but I doubt that it matters so much as long as their are other shittier currencies to spend (likely into the foreseeable future) under gresham law dynamics.

Actually 50 or 100 years down the road, when many of us are going to be dead, there might be some different dynamics if bitcoin does become the only one currency, and then you will have to spend it, but that situation is so damned far into the future that it would be quite problematic to be theorizing BTC's present use case(s) as if such situation already existed (and like I mention we are way the hell off from being even close to such a bitcoin is the only currency scenario with far less than 1% of any kind of meaningful currency and asset (commodity) market share).

For bitcoin to succeed people need to stop thinking about it every day and simply use it when they need to. I don’t think about how much money I have in the bank until I need to make a purchase. Everyone needs to do that with bitcoin. Bitcoin is doomed as a currency because no one sees it as anything but an investment.

BTC is Doomed?  You see some better candidates?  how about accounting for my assertions above, do those assertions affect your thinking at least in terms of comparing present situation to future situation, and realizing that this whole currency/asset question is not exactly a settled matter based on equally "mature" markets, right?

Jay, people need to start using bitcoin as a currency and not just an investment.

Your thinking about this seems to differ from mine quite a bit, and maybe it is just your way of framing the issue.

I think that people do not need to do anything, because bitcoin is voluntary, and incentives align in such a way that the forest of bitcoiners are going to expand.  We do not need to go out an plant the whole forest, because little bit little, with the passage of time, more and more use cases are going to expand and the consumption aspect is going to fall into place - especially once bitcoin does another 1000x price appreciation and it becomes one of the only currency games in town.  In the mean time, there is no need to spend your bitcoins, you can spend your dollars and your credit cards and your whatever less valuable money and save your bitcoins because they are going to appreciate way more than the vast majority of the less sound monies and payment systems.

Of course, you can already use bitcoin to make payments, if you want, but it might be prudent to replace whatever bitcoins you do spend because bitcoin remains in such early stages of adoption and exponential price growth seems highly probably in the short to medium term and at unexpected times and while other BIGGER players are trying to shake peeps from their bitcoins.


Bitcoin is a failure if all its ever going to be is an etf or a penny stock.  

Makes no sense.

sounds as if you are not keeping up with bitcoin lately and all of the ongoing developments, including segwit.. remember segwit was adopted in August 2017?  Remember there are various second layer systems being built on top of bitcoin including lightning network and liquid and surely there are others, but those second layer systems are far from user friendly and take a long time to build out and to increase user-friendliness.  In the mean time, ever since the spam attacks stopped in January 2018 (recall about a two month period of intense BTC blockchain spam attacks?) if you want, you can transact on bitcoin directly for nearly free with fast transaction times.  You can transport money anywhere around the world without any middle man, and all you really need is to know that you have that power because almost anyone can do it with very little training.  maybe 1 or 2 hours of orientation, and someone can show them how to specifically transport several million dollars from one part of the world to another with only pennies of transaction fees - yet of course, you could pay a bit more in the transaction fees just to be ensured of a fast transaction.

Accordingly, I am mentioning only one simple use case that involves personalized and secure transmitting of value, and you don't believe that there is some meaningful value to that?  besides suggesting that you need to be able to use bitcoin to buy coffee, which you can do, but currently seems to be a lot less practical than some other form of payment.. that might currently be superior to bitcoin in terms of payment but less superior to bitcoin in terms of either sound money or a really meaningful ability to personally control your value (which can take some decent responsibility, too, in order to make sure that you do not lose your private keys or compromise them in some unnecessary way).


There are no better candidates. I see all of the altcoins as nothing more than a get rich quick scheme for their creators.

Exactly, you know that bitcoin remains the best of the systems, yet you seem to harbor and ongoingly communicate some kind of speculative fear that some other project is going to eat its lunch.. which is nearly bullshit thinking.  Bitcoin might not be perfect, but you likely understand that it already has a variety of current use cases, you likely would concede that it is under constant development, so what's the rush?  You think that there is some kind of rush to compete with inferior products, such as credit card systems or other payment systems.  In the longer run (yes, it might take 5 years, or 10 years or 20 years to play out), value is going to continue to migrate into bitcoin because of its underlying more sound money aspect and its highly likely improvements on payment systems - which currently there seems to be little need to attempt to take on payment systems to the extent that they are working for people and likely going to continue to gravitate towards bitcoin rather than bitcoin having to gravitate towards them.

By the way, I think that you and I largely agree that altcoins tend to be money printing machines for creators and perhaps certain insiders, that are trying to act like they have something more to offer.  Surely, those coins can be experimental systems, and perhaps provide some information for bitcoin to possibly absorb into its protocol or even second or third layer.  They also tend to be diversions for dumber money to get into the space, and even seem to provide excuses for dumber money to learn more and more about bitcoin, after they figure out the largely dumbness of the vast majority of those snake oil bitcoin imitation schemes.  The whole process takes a long time, and even if satoshi did not predict details of various alt coins, he did anticipate a lot of bitcoin imitators and a lot of attackers on bitcoin...  It just could take a decently long time to play out.. and surely many of us might not live long enough to really  see how long it takes and some of the dramatic details that are going to continue, perhaps even in the next 50 years or more there will be battles and drama.. and the foundations of bitcoin currently seem strongly enough prepared for such battles, but no one knows for sure how matters are going to play out with any meaningfully accurate specificity.

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Firstly, tell the misses I say hey.

Secondly, I just sent you all my sM that I was capable of sending - 8. Enjoy, bud.

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Firstly, tell the misses I say hey.

Secondly, I just sent you all my sM that I was capable of sending - 8. Enjoy, bud.

Bruno

Thanks Bruno, where have you been?

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Firstly, tell the misses I say hey.

Secondly, I just sent you all my sM that I was capable of sending - 8. Enjoy, bud.

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Thanks Bruno, where have you been?

Secret hiding place. If I told you its locale, you'll tell the misses, then the whole world would know its whereabouts.  Tongue
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Firstly, tell the misses I say hey.

Secondly, I just sent you all my sM that I was capable of sending - 8. Enjoy, bud.

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Thanks Bruno, where have you been?

Secret hiding place. If I told you its locale, you'll tell the misses, then the whole world would know its whereabouts.  Tongue

LOL Well we can’t be havin that now can we.  Wink

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The best thing would be to get rid of signature campaigns. They should be made illegal on this board. That's the problem right there; 95% of posts by sig whores are absolute fucking NPC-tier rubbish, zero contribution whatsoever; if there's an intelligent and original comment, it always disappears covered by mountains of rubbish.

That's the one and only solution to make bitcointalk great again; Merit is just a palliative with severe drawbacks.
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The best thing would be to get rid of signature campaigns. They should be made illegal on this board. That's the problem right there; 95% of posts by sig whores are absolute fucking NPC-tier rubbish, zero contribution whatsoever; if there's an intelligent and original comment, it always disappears covered by mountains of rubbish.

That's the one and only solution to make bitcointalk great again; Merit is just a palliative with severe drawbacks.

But that’s how the forum makes its money.

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