bustabit – The original crash game

[Emitdama]

I wouldnt go that far. Of course its a huge change having that money from one moment to the other. I mean that
Money is love changing! There are people that win the lottery and become suicidal, they dont know How to act with all the money towards friends and family.

Yes, I understand that money is a big change however how could it be bad? I mean look at it this way, this dude has money a bit, he also can gamble on a crypto crash website and win 200+ bitcoin. This means he is not one of those people who are starving to death and boiling shoes in Venezuela so that they do not die.

Of course there are plenty of reasons to suicide and I get it but I am just trying to paint you a picture of what type of life he might have. It could still be very bad but if you live in a place with infrastructure that helps you get online and gamble, that means with 200 bitcoins you could at least buy a great house and a great car and help pay all your debt and even some of your families debt as well. How could this make you feel any worse than you are feeling now? How could 200 bitcoin could lead to anything worse?

[xxjumperxx]

Of course. Judging by his bets and such I think he wasnt poor to start off with. But winning that amount puts pressure on you. Friends begging for money, family could start begging for money. It was overwhelming, I hope for his sake it was just a saying and he is happily enjoying life with his great winnings!-

[JollyGood]

Maybe there is more to this story than meets the eye, maybe your theory about him pre-empting any possible action against him (by mentioning suicide) might have some weight.

It does seems somewhat strange for someone to have over $2 million in winnings then show/claim signs of depression or confusion.

At the end of the day dude won a ton of money and he should be happy for it right?

I mean I don't know the reasons behind wanting to not live anymore and there could be a ton of reasons and could be quite serious reasons as well, there are so many bad things going on in the whole world and one of them could have happened to the gambler, he could be living the worst life in the whole earth (doubtful if he has access to internet and funds to gamble).

However we are talking about 200+ bitcoins, around 2 million dollars, that is a ton of money and I don't care how bad your life is, if you win 2 million dollars it is a good thing and not a bad thing, no matter what is going on with your life. So, I assume the theory that he acted as if suicidal to disappear so that nobody would follow and try to hack him or dox him to get some money out of him.

[xxjumperxx]

Maybe there is more to this story than meets the eye, maybe your theory about him pre-empting any possible action against him (by mentioning suicide) might have some weight.

It does seems somewhat strange for someone to have over $2 million in winnings then show/claim signs of depression or confusion.

How do we know he wasnt fighting those battles before he won the 2million?
We are on the internet, we dont know who is sitting on the other end and what that person is „fighting against“.
Rich people can be depressive also...

[fullhdpixel]

Of course. Judging by his bets and such I think he wasnt poor to start off with. But winning that amount puts pressure on you. Friends begging for money, family could start begging for money. It was overwhelming, I hope for his sake it was just a saying and he is happily enjoying life with his great winnings!-

Having friends begging for money, family begging for money, everyone in the whole world begging for money is not really a reason to commit suicide though is it? I mean everyone in the whole world could come asking for money and I could simply give them the same answer and all of them would have to understand, they could hate me or never talk to me anymore but I would tell them all the same thing ; "half of it gone to taxes, other half I bought two houses to rent out and make money".

Now they know that I only have 2 income from 2 houses as rents and nothing more, I have zero left, I will have a source of income but people do not come asking for money for your income, I earn a salary and nobody asks me for anything. At the end of the day there could be some bad stuff but it is not suicide worthy at all. Dude simply took off in order to not be doxxed and get away, probably reads these laughing.

[JollyGood]

You could be absolutely correct, we do not know the background to the mindset of the winner and it is all hearsay. I hope he is well, enjoying his winnings rather than be in any negative state.

How do we know he wasnt fighting those battles before he won the 2million?
We are on the internet, we dont know who is sitting on the other end and what that person is „fighting against“.
Rich people can be depressive also...

[rexxarofmoknathal]

It could still be very bad but if you live in a place with infrastructure that helps you get online and gamble, that means with 200 bitcoins you could at least buy a great house and a great car and help pay all your debt and even some of your families debt as well. How could this make you feel any worse than you are feeling now? How could 200 bitcoin could lead to anything worse?

I agree with you, a good amount of money like this is sure to be making a lot of improvement in this guy's life and not only that but for those around him too. This is the power of money, it can make your everyday financial and sometimes health worries disappear in an instant. It really is glorious to be this lucky, and for sure this is not something that could lead to anything bad. This guy at least had some brains to even consider crypto, right  and the fact that he got lucky is super cool! I wish I had that kinda money...

[xxjumperxx]

Of course. Judging by his bets and such I think he wasnt poor to start off with. But winning that amount puts pressure on you. Friends begging for money, family could start begging for money. It was overwhelming, I hope for his sake it was just a saying and he is happily enjoying life with his great winnings!-

Having friends begging for money, family begging for money, everyone in the whole world begging for money is not really a reason to commit suicide though is it? I mean everyone in the whole world could come asking for money and I could simply give them the same answer and all of them would have to understand, they could hate me or never talk to me anymore but I would tell them all the same thing ; "half of it gone to taxes, other half I bought two houses to rent out and make money".

Now they know that I only have 2 income from 2 houses as rents and nothing more, I have zero left, I will have a source of income but people do not come asking for money for your income, I earn a salary and nobody asks me for anything. At the end of the day there could be some bad stuff but it is not suicide worthy at all. Dude simply took off in order to not be doxxed and get away, probably reads these laughing.

If you lose friends and family because of it?
Say you have friends and family and everyone has their own basic salary... now they come to find out youre rich, you have won a huge lump sum of cash... Of course everyone will come up to you begging for and asking for money. Now if they are shitty friends, they will no longer want to talk to you for not sharing...
Friends you didnt even know you had will come asking for piece of the pie.

[shoreno]

Of course. Judging by his bets and such I think he wasnt poor to start off with. But winning that amount puts pressure on you. Friends begging for money, family could start begging for money. It was overwhelming, I hope for his sake it was just a saying and he is happily enjoying life with his great winnings!-

Having friends begging for money, family begging for money, everyone in the whole world begging for money is not really a reason to commit suicide though is it? I mean everyone in the whole world could come asking for money and I could simply give them the same answer and all of them would have to understand, they could hate me or never talk to me anymore but I would tell them all the same thing ; "half of it gone to taxes, other half I bought two houses to rent out and make money".

Now they know that I only have 2 income from 2 houses as rents and nothing more, I have zero left, I will have a source of income but people do not come asking for money for your income, I earn a salary and nobody asks me for anything. At the end of the day there could be some bad stuff but it is not suicide worthy at all. Dude simply took off in order to not be doxxed and get away, probably reads these laughing.

If you lose friends and family because of it?
Say you have friends and family and everyone has their own basic salary... now they come to find out youre rich, you have won a huge lump sum of cash... Of course everyone will come up to you begging for and asking for money. Now if they are shitty friends, they will no longer want to talk to you for not sharing...
Friends you didnt even know you had will come asking for piece of the pie.

not all are gold diggers but there are those legit people that does not need money , they only need friendships  .

 if they found out that your rich or you won , they can also get shock and say exagerated expressions but dont judge them yet  and i think you will find out thier real behavior if you will monitor them  . we are going out of the real discusion guys  , its better if we make seperate topic for those matter to avoid this thread getting clogged up  .

[vanfis]

I am just wondering, if I invest in a bankroll, how long does it usually take to recover 2% dilution fee? I invested yesterday and I am deeply in red.

[RHavar]

I am just wondering, if I invest in a bankroll, how long does it usually take to recover 2% dilution fee? I invested yesterday and I am deeply in red.

You can derive/guess from historical stats: https://dicesites.com/bustabit although it'll massively be affected by variance (i.e. it's not unusual for someone to win or lose 100+ BTC).

But realistically if your time frame isn't measured in months or years, it's a pretty bad investment.

[DarkStar_]

I am just wondering, if I invest in a bankroll, how long does it usually take to recover 2% dilution fee? I invested yesterday and I am deeply in red.

You can derive/guess from historical stats: https://dicesites.com/bustabit although it'll massively be affected by variance (i.e. it's not unusual for someone to win or lose 100+ BTC).

But realistically if your time frame isn't measured in months or years, it's a pretty bad investment.

Looking at the stats, I guess you could say that bustabit turns over around 6k BTC per week on average. EV of that is 60 BTC (1% edge), which becomes an EV of 30 BTC for investors. With a 7.4k BTC bankroll, investors are expected to profit 0.4% weekly, so it's expected that it'll take 5 weeks to recover the 2% dilution fee. However, like RHavar said, there is a ton of variance so you could recover all of the fee and then some tomorrow or wait half a year or longer.

[xxjumperxx]

I am just wondering, if I invest in a bankroll, how long does it usually take to recover 2% dilution fee? I invested yesterday and I am deeply in red.

Like RHavar said, it will take a bit and I wouldnt check my stats daily. It will drive you crazy and make you worry! I speak from experience 

Just invest, dont forget about it and check every couple of weeks.
You should be in this for the long run

[RealMalatesta]

If you lose friends and family because of it?
Say you have friends and family and everyone has their own basic salary... now they come to find out youre rich, you have won a huge lump sum of cash... Of course everyone will come up to you begging for and asking for money. Now if they are shitty friends, they will no longer want to talk to you for not sharing...
Friends you didnt even know you had will come asking for piece of the pie.

not all are gold diggers but there are those legit people that does not need money , they only need friendships  .

 if they found out that your rich or you won , they can also get shock and say exagerated expressions but dont judge them yet  and i think you will find out thier real behavior if you will monitor them  . we are going out of the real discusion guys  , its better if we make seperate topic for those matter to avoid this thread getting clogged up  .

Honestly that is even better? Think about it, if you suddenly have millions of dollars that doesn't mean that you have to share it with your friends, you do not have anything like that forced onto you at all, if you would like to you can share it but you don't have to. Now if your friends can't see that and stop talking to you, that means now you know that your friends do not care about you and only about your money or they never really bonded with you in a way that they cared more about you than anything else.

So, if your friends do not hang around with you because of not sharing your wealth, you can find friends who will do that instead and get to a better life. I would say this is actually quite better than the other option and once again not a reason to commit suicide at all.

how long does it usually take to recover 2% dilution fee?

There cannot be any fixed timeframe for getting you 2% profits. I read dogecoin investments are yielding little to negative profits whereas if you invest litcoins then you may earn comparatively decent profits. But in general, in long run houses win, so if you keep your nerves down then better chances to be into green. Patience pays .

[fullhdpixel]

Like RHavar said, it will take a bit and I wouldnt check my stats daily. It will drive you crazy and make you worry! I speak from experience 

Just invest, dont forget about it and check every couple of weeks.
You should be in this for the long run

I would say there is a change in wagering numbers time to time as well, like for example pandemic usually saw digital casinos a lot more wagering than normal, or maybe it is vacation time now and there are less people gambling, there is really not a single method to know what the wagering will be let alone what the variance will be. Only after you figure out what the wagering in the next 2 months will be like you can start to calculate which you can't, but lets say you managed to find the wagering numbers, you would still need to consider ups and downs as well in the winning/losing of the gamblers.

So, I would say best way to invest is to put it there for a year and forget about it, you want longer? Perfect, you want shorter? It is risky. Hence why RHavar is right about putting in there for months/years.

[xxjumperxx]

I would say there is a change in wagering numbers time to time as well, like for example pandemic usually saw digital casinos a lot more wagering than normal, or maybe it is vacation time now and there are less people gambling, there is really not a single method to know what the wagering will be let alone what the variance will be. Only after you figure out what the wagering in the next 2 months will be like you can start to calculate which you can't, but lets say you managed to find the wagering numbers, you would still need to consider ups and downs as well in the winning/losing of the gamblers.

So, I would say best way to invest is to put it there for a year and forget about it, you want longer? Perfect, you want shorter? It is risky. Hence why RHavar is right about putting in there for months/years.

Exactly, I dont think you define it exactly...
Whales come in, leave alot of money at the site or vice versa.

I can see quite big jumps in my little investment, but these jumps can also happen when new investors join.

[justdimin]

how long does it usually take to recover 2% dilution fee?

There cannot be any fixed timeframe for getting you 2% profits. I read dogecoin investments are yielding little to negative profits whereas if you invest litcoins then you may earn comparatively decent profits. But in general, in long run houses win, so if you keep your nerves down then better chances to be into green. Patience pays .

Investing into a casino is not really something people can do without having a thick skin. It is not an easy thing and there are too many emotional people that have breakdowns over the volatility as well. I have seen so many people that basically said that casino is stealing money from the investors by claiming they are actually posing as customer on their own casino and win because they know something and get the investors money.

Yes, investors are sore losers just like gamblers as well some times. Which means if you are patient and you have a thick skin, there could be days someone wins 200+ bitcoins and maybe it will happen few times back to back as well? It is all a possibility since we are all doing something based on luck. All of this is not that easy but if you can wait it is a great thing over long term obviously.

[JollyGood]

If someone comes along and asks for the piece of the pie, there is absolutely no reason to share it. Granted a stressful situation might be taking place when friends and family start asking for money but nobody is bound by any reason to hand over their money to them.

If you lose friends and family because of it?
Say you have friends and family and everyone has their own basic salary... now they come to find out youre rich, you have won a huge lump sum of cash... Of course everyone will come up to you begging for and asking for money. Now if they are shitty friends, they will no longer want to talk to you for not sharing...
Friends you didnt even know you had will come asking for piece of the pie.

[hopenotlate]

How do you see this story playing out over the coming days or weeks?

Definitely this.

I think that would be an extreme level to go to for a false flag style distraction. There is probably much more to this story than meets the eye but it might take a few weeks more before it all becomes known.

Been away for a bit and missed your post.

My guess is the winner disclosed their real identity ( or has established connections ) with "online friends" and when won that nice pot he made a clumsy attempt to form an alibi and break any relationship with someone he fears could claim a part of the cake for some reason that only they know.

It really doesn't make any sense the " I won so much money I don't deserve I will end my life" statement and I don't even drink the "we don't know who sits on the other side of the pc" speech : just don't withdraw or donate to charity , family , friends, do good, help the needy and so on. you can do whatever it takes to make you feel better.


Or simply he was just trolling other players.

[xxjumperxx]

If someone comes along and asks for the piece of the pie, there is absolutely no reason to share it. Granted a stressful situation might be taking place when friends and family start asking for money but nobody is bound by any reason to hand over their money to them.

Of course not!
I mean there will always be wrong people like that.
"Give me a piece of pie or I will not be your friend anymore" -> my response: "Ok Bye! With an attitude like that you were never a friend anyway."