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March 01, 2014, 08:19:36 PM
 #3221

I have the feeling that next month payments will be indeed 0.00000001. for everybody.
If theymos gets annoyed by the huge amount of post on the forum , he will probably kill sigs  , all of them.

Don't forget that sig deals are a direct competitor to the banners and links on the forum .

If he does, many people would leave the forum entirely, and still more would be visiting it a lot less...

That sounds just like the previous giveaway ban , and when it was proposed to kill the alt section.
It's not the sigs , the altcoins , the giveaways that keep this forum on , it's bitcoin. Don't forget that sig deals are relatively new , at least at this magnitude.

But this is going a bit off topic , and is 999%  my fault.
 


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March 01, 2014, 08:21:02 PM
 #3222

I have the feeling that next month payments will be indeed 0.00000001. for everybody.
If theymos gets annoyed by the huge amount of post on the forum , he will probably kill sigs  , all of them.

Don't forget that sig deals are a direct competitor to the banners and links on the forum .

If he does, many people would leave the forum entirely, and still more would be visiting it a lot less...
Theymos already done enough now nothing more coming from him because they need many peoples to become rich and for more scams

I'm not sure I got what you meant... Wink

I want to say theymos not going to ban this signature work because if they do then this forum lost too many peoples and its not good for them

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March 01, 2014, 08:22:12 PM
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I have the feeling that next month payments will be indeed 0.00000001. for everybody.
If theymos gets annoyed by the huge amount of post on the forum , he will probably kill sigs  , all of them.

Don't forget that sig deals are a direct competitor to the banners and links on the forum .



Theymos doesn't seem all that bothered from what I gather and he's stated numerous times the forum doesn't really need any more money. If he was bothered or threatened by them they probably would've gone months ago without warning. It seems to be most of the other mods that complain as it's them that feel the weight of the extra moderation. If Stunna goes by activity as he mentioned then there probably wont be any payment by posts anyway, but I can't see how payments by activity will work really, but I hope they somehow will if it changes to that.


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March 01, 2014, 08:24:07 PM
 #3224

I have the feeling that next month payments will be indeed 0.00000001. for everybody.
If theymos gets annoyed by the huge amount of post on the forum , he will probably kill sigs  , all of them.

Don't forget that sig deals are a direct competitor to the banners and links on the forum .

If he does, many people would leave the forum entirely, and still more would be visiting it a lot less...

That sounds just like the previous giveaway ban , and when it was proposed to kill the alt section.
It's not the sigs , the altcoins , the giveaways that keep this forum on , it's bitcoin. Don't forget that sig deals are relatively new , at least at this magnitude.

Actually, it's people that come here which keeps the forum going, and some of them come here because of an opportunity to earn some bitcoins at that...

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March 01, 2014, 08:24:22 PM
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If you remember TF was also giving pays only for activity and not for posts but this competition stats just after coming of PD

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March 01, 2014, 08:26:02 PM
Last edit: March 01, 2014, 09:08:43 PM by boumalo
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The normal size signature is 14pts, can someone confirm I have the correct one and that I will get 0.0003 per constructive post?

EDIT : 0.0003BTC Per constructive post If you have a full sized signature-0.0001BTC per constructive post with the small signature.-only Senior Members (!!) can have the long signature

cf  Proposal: Disallow Ads in Signatures https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484259.160

I have the feeling that next month payments will be indeed 0.00000001. for everybody.
If theymos gets annoyed by the huge amount of post on the forum , he will probably kill sigs  , all of them.

Don't forget that sig deals are a direct competitor to the banners and links on the forum .

If he does, many people would leave the forum entirely, and still more would be visiting it a lot less...

That sounds just like the previous giveaway ban , and when it was proposed to kill the alt section.
It's not the sigs , the altcoins , the giveaways that keep this forum on , it's bitcoin. Don't forget that sig deals are relatively new , at least at this magnitude.

Actually, it's people that come here which keeps the forum going, and some of them come here because of an opportunity to earn some bitcoins at that...

Yes the signatures deal are making the forum a lot of money, the members make money and it is bringing momentum

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March 01, 2014, 08:28:50 PM
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The normal size signature is 14pts, can someone confirm I have the correct one and that I will get 0.0003 per constructive post?

No, yours is 12 points (just like mine), unless you zoom in indeed...

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March 01, 2014, 08:29:14 PM
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I have the feeling that next month payments will be indeed 0.00000001. for everybody.
If theymos gets annoyed by the huge amount of post on the forum , he will probably kill sigs  , all of them.

Don't forget that sig deals are a direct competitor to the banners and links on the forum .



Theymos doesn't seem all that bothered from what I gather and he's stated numerous times the forum doesn't really need any more money. If he was bothered or threatened by them they probably would've gone months ago without warning. It seems to be most of the other mods that complain as it's them that feel the weight of the extra moderation. If Stunna goes by activity as he mentioned then there probably wont be any payment by posts anyway, but I can't see how payments by activity will work really, but I hope they somehow will if it changes to that.


Topic: Advertise on this forum - Round 113
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482060.0


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March 01, 2014, 08:33:59 PM
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I have the feeling that next month payments will be indeed 0.00000001. for everybody.
If theymos gets annoyed by the huge amount of post on the forum , he will probably kill sigs  , all of them.

Don't forget that sig deals are a direct competitor to the banners and links on the forum .



Theymos doesn't seem all that bothered from what I gather and he's stated numerous times the forum doesn't really need any more money. If he was bothered or threatened by them they probably would've gone months ago without warning. It seems to be most of the other mods that complain as it's them that feel the weight of the extra moderation. If Stunna goes by activity as he mentioned then there probably wont be any payment by posts anyway, but I can't see how payments by activity will work really, but I hope they somehow will if it changes to that.


Topic: Advertise on this forum - Round 113
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482060.0

I'm aware that this forum has adverts and they raffle off the spaces, but Theymos as well as the other mods have stated numerous times they don't need the money nor are they desperate for it. If they were people would be banned from advertising in an instant and we wouldn't even be having this conversation now.

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March 01, 2014, 08:35:34 PM
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If Stunna like I am giving him this proposal hope he like and think about this


701-1300:            0.1 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 60)

1301-2000:          0.2 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 120)

2000-2500:          0.3 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 240)

2501+ posts:        0.4 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 480)

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March 01, 2014, 10:22:04 PM
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So what now? I see my sig has changed and the condition has changed in the mean time, since I joined in.

I signed for 0.003 btc per comment and I think it's fair to be paid based on what I signed for, not what the current conditions are, or else it doesn't make sense, tomorow you can change rules and say that you'd only pay SR/Hero members or not pay people althogether it doesn't make sense at all....
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March 01, 2014, 10:26:09 PM
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So what now? I see my sig has changed and the condition has changed in the mean time, since I joined in.

I signed for 0.003 btc per comment and I think it's fair to be paid based on what I signed for, not what the current conditions are, or else it doesn't make sense, tomorow you can change rules and say that you'd only pay SR/Hero members or not pay people althogether it doesn't make sense at all....

It is something like a force majeure (deeds of God, oh, well, theymos), so Stunna is in his own right to change conditions as he sees them appropriate. This is not to say that I'm happy about these changes either (and Stunna did pay 1.2BTC for 1200 posts as promised when bitcoin price doubled tripled within a month or so)... Grin

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March 01, 2014, 10:29:28 PM
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If Stunna like I am giving him this proposal hope he like and think about this


701-1300:            0.1 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 60)

1301-2000:          0.2 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 120)

2000-2500:          0.3 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 240)

2501+ posts:        0.4 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 480)


I agree with this type of model TradeFortess may have had a fumble with inputs.io but the model for signaturecampaigns that was built there was a good one, that and no one takes into account past posts although I'm sure some people including myself like archives Tongue

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March 01, 2014, 10:31:46 PM
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If Stunna like I am giving him this proposal hope he like and think about this


701-1300:            0.1 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 60)

1301-2000:          0.2 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 120)

2000-2500:          0.3 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 240)

2501+ posts:        0.4 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 480)


I agree with this type of model TradeFortess may have had a fumble with inputs.io but the model for signaturecampaigns that was built there was a good one, that and no one takes into account past posts although I'm sure some people including myself like archives Tongue

I also agree with this. Great model!

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March 01, 2014, 10:36:43 PM
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So what now? I see my sig has changed and the condition has changed in the mean time, since I joined in.

I signed for 0.003 btc per comment and I think it's fair to be paid based on what I signed for, not what the current conditions are, or else it doesn't make sense, tomorow you can change rules and say that you'd only pay SR/Hero members or not pay people althogether it doesn't make sense at all....

It is something like a force majeure (deeds of God, oh, well, theymos), so Stunna is in his own right to change conditions as he sees them appropriate. This is not to say that I'm happy about these changes either... Grin

I can understand that, but the biggest issue here is the way it is done and the way the split is done
0.0001 for smallsignature jr+ nr + full members (which represent the majority)
0.0003 for bigsignature = Sr + hero members (which represent a very small minority of the people using the service and promoting PrimeDice)

There are a couple of things that should be considered here to make the situation fair enough for both sides :

1- Either increase the lower limite to 0.0002 to match the previous payout or allow multiple signatures
2- Hero members should be payed more considering the size of the signature and how much it stands out, considering how low the vast majority is payed (in comparaison to the initial payouts)

PrimeDice needs the community and the community needs PrimeDice, some who doesn't have the hashrate to mine bit or altcoins uses such services to get some changes which they can use to buy/sell other cryptocurrencies for example or even use them in cryptopockers dices and whats not
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March 01, 2014, 10:44:04 PM
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If Stunna like I am giving him this proposal hope he like and think about this


701-1300:            0.1 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 60)

1301-2000:          0.2 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 120)

2000-2500:          0.3 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 240)

2501+ posts:        0.4 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 480)


Are you saying you have to do these posts per month as well as have the activity?

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March 01, 2014, 10:57:21 PM
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I have the feeling that next month payments will be indeed 0.00000001. for everybody.
If theymos gets annoyed by the huge amount of post on the forum , he will probably kill sigs  , all of them.

Don't forget that sig deals are a direct competitor to the banners and links on the forum .

If he does, many people would leave the forum entirely, and still more would be visiting it a lot less...

That sounds just like the previous giveaway ban , and when it was proposed to kill the alt section.
It's not the sigs , the altcoins , the giveaways that keep this forum on , it's bitcoin. Don't forget that sig deals are relatively new , at least at this magnitude.

But this is going a bit off topic , and is 999%  my fault.
 
If theymos doesn't think he has enough money from all of the donations he's hoarding, I don't know what will make him think he has enough.
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March 01, 2014, 10:59:43 PM
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It is something like a force majeure (deeds of God, oh, well, theymos), so Stunna is in his own right to change conditions as he sees them appropriate. This is not to say that I'm happy about these changes either... Grin

I can understand that, but the biggest issue here is the way it is done and the way the split is done
0.0001 for smallsignature jr+ nr + full members (which represent the majority)
0.0003 for bigsignature = Sr + hero members (which represent a very small minority of the people using the service and promoting PrimeDice)

There are a couple of things that should be considered here to make the situation fair enough for both sides :

1- Either increase the lower limite to 0.0002 to match the previous payout or allow multiple signatures
2- Hero members should be payed more considering the size of the signature and how much it stands out, considering how low the vast majority is payed (in comparaison to the initial payouts)

PrimeDice needs the community and the community needs PrimeDice, some who doesn't have the hashrate to mine bit or altcoins uses such services to get some changes which they can use to buy/sell other cryptocurrencies for example or even use them in cryptopockers dices and whats not

Actually, allowing multiple signatures for those stuck with the smaller sizes, seems like a good idea.  Grin
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March 01, 2014, 11:07:47 PM
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If Stunna like I am giving him this proposal hope he like and think about this


701-1300:           0.1 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 60)

1301-2000:          0.2 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 120)

2000-2500:         0.3 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 240)

2501+ posts:       0.4 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 480)


Are you saying you have to do these posts per month as well as have the activity?

Not quite correct
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198934.460

This model was designed to take spamming into account
You can have many posts accumulating over time but you will still receive a lower tier reward until your activity passes the minimum for the next level of payouts.

For example you have made 2500 posts but have less than 120 activity you get the lower tier of payments for the members in the 1301-2000 range until your activity reaches the threshold.
If you had 1301-2000 posts but 75 activity then you receive the payments of the 700-1300 range.

The post total acts as minimum ranges and maximum ranges for forum growth

It's designed to be organic and include the past posting history in revenue calculations

It means that if you spam a whole lot you won't be able to move up the Tiers in activity but you will still receive some income based on your activity.

The inverse is that if you have 480 activity but lets say only have 1000 posts accumulated then your tier is 0.1 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 60) encouraging you to contribute more posts to the community to reach the next revenue tier while still being informative.

This keeps users posting to reach the minimum cap as activity increases while controlling the amount of posts you make to a certain range.

Of course this model was designed so that new posts would not have to be made except for one to confirm registration a month after the tiers are reached because your total amount of posts are where the advertising kicks in.

Unlike other offerings, we pay you for ALL your posts, including the ones you've made before (once). You can get paid up to 0.4 BTC even if you make zero posts in a month. Read further and you'll never go back.

A few modifications or an adoption of this model could work with primedice to keep a steady stream of new posts while rewarding users an incentive for keeping active and contributing to the community.

Example part activity accumulation and part post based with maybe an element for signature size factored in.

The original looks like this you can see that new members need to make 401 posts before their activity reaches 30 to face restrictions so it keeps posts in a reasonable range

100-200: 0.02 or 0.04 BTC / 30 days
201-400: 0.04 or 0.08 BTC / 30 days
401-700: 0.06 or 0.12 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 30)
701-1100: 0.09 or 0.18 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 60)
1101-1800: 0.12 or 0.24 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 90)
1801-2500: 0.16 or 0.32 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 120)
2501+ posts: 0.2 or 0.4 BTC / 30 days (activity must be more than 150)

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All coins are paid at the end of each advertising period. You'll need to reply to the thread again after receiving payouts to get next month's payouts. Some payout tiers also have activity requirements.

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March 01, 2014, 11:09:06 PM
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It is something like a force majeure (deeds of God, oh, well, theymos), so Stunna is in his own right to change conditions as he sees them appropriate. This is not to say that I'm happy about these changes either... Grin

I can understand that, but the biggest issue here is the way it is done and the way the split is done
0.0001 for smallsignature jr+ nr + full members (which represent the majority)
0.0003 for bigsignature = Sr + hero members (which represent a very small minority of the people using the service and promoting PrimeDice)

There are a couple of things that should be considered here to make the situation fair enough for both sides :

1- Either increase the lower limite to 0.0002 to match the previous payout or allow multiple signatures
2- Hero members should be payed more considering the size of the signature and how much it stands out, considering how low the vast majority is payed (in comparaison to the initial payouts)

PrimeDice needs the community and the community needs PrimeDice, some who doesn't have the hashrate to mine bit or altcoins uses such services to get some changes which they can use to buy/sell other cryptocurrencies for example or even use them in cryptopockers dices and whats not

Actually, allowing multiple signatures for those stuck with the smaller sizes, seems like a good idea.  Grin

They are not small or that smaller. Actually, 12 pts vs 14 pts. And this is without taking into account the real signature size as seen on screen...

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