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February 20, 2018, 06:37:59 PM |
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Hi all I have noticed that Claymore's dual ethereum topic has been filled with discussions of Blake 2s pools and XVG...none of it is related to the miner as such I feel is best to have a separate topic instead of hijacking Claymore's topic.
Hope everyone posts in this topic.
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February 20, 2018, 07:07:10 PM |
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interesting thread, my understanding is Blake-256 is one of the 5 algos in Cryptonight so surely if Vega's are good on Cryptonight they should murder Blake-256 or Blake2
Just doodling with Blake G function for my own understanding...
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February 20, 2018, 07:07:51 PM |
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Yep, lets discuss here, so anyone mining on nlpool -> XVG please report is it more stable now or all pools are crap?
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February 20, 2018, 07:42:08 PM |
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Yep, lets discuss here, so anyone mining on nlpool -> XVG please report is it more stable now or all pools are crap?
Now in nlpool, in the Claymore's minner everything is ok, but there is nothing on the page of the poo in my wallet for more than 2 hours. For 24 hours Uniminning pool sent to my wallet 1/2 (50%) of what I minning yesterday for 20 hours in Nlpool!
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February 20, 2018, 07:49:17 PM |
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NLPOOL was stable... for 2 days. Everything was GREAT. 1st day i got AS MUCH XVG as unimining 2.5 DAYS!
Now nlpool has been probable DDOSed by other pools that steal... or it just grow so much that cannot handle.. but that's not sure.
Cause the pool was ok for some time with 13 TH/s. Now it's 9-10 and there is problems so i guess attacks from others.
NO OTHER POOL IS OK (maybe antmine now.. was overloaded but i dont know about payments).
DONT USE OXO! 100% STEAL of hashpower.
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February 20, 2018, 08:09:10 PM |
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(maybe antmine now.. was overloaded but i dont know about payments).
antminepool is stable but it steals about 25-30%
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February 20, 2018, 08:24:07 PM |
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For 3h in nlpool: B2S - Total Speed: 8718.084 Mh/s, Total Shares: 732, Rejected: 3 In wallet still nothing. unfortunately continues to be unstable
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February 20, 2018, 08:28:47 PM |
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total net hash has grown SO MUCH that a block comes up every 1-2 hours so need to be patient. P.S last 2 blocks were ORPHANS unfortunately verge network is just too big for all the NODEs to handle. anyone got info on keccak coins ?
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February 20, 2018, 08:38:35 PM |
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Yes, there is a lot of algorithms, but there are no such problems at x17 and there are lots of pools. Why only blake2s have so 3 Pools?
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February 20, 2018, 08:40:50 PM |
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yes but we need something to dualming with ETH
So not so much algos.
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February 20, 2018, 08:47:23 PM |
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Am waiting for NLpool to be stable. Mine at antminepool now.
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February 20, 2018, 08:55:37 PM |
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Am waiting for NLpool to be stable. Mine at antminepool now. Me too
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February 20, 2018, 09:02:14 PM |
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me too - but payout is not great atm - after 9h with 4khs I have only 5 XVG - what is your experience ?
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February 20, 2018, 09:07:16 PM |
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nlpool works ok now.. i got work etc. unfortunately massive orphans makes us work for nothing... hoprefully a good block now.
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February 20, 2018, 09:07:48 PM Last edit: February 20, 2018, 09:51:51 PM by goodbitprofit |
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Thank you for opening a new tread.
Last few days just ahadake... Long story short.
In past 2 days I tried to mine : - TAJ - just rejected shares 100% - MAX - rejected 100% shares - PASC lite - arround 2 per our, DCR 10 - 3200Mh/s - XVG - Antminer DCR 50, appx 60 per 24 hour - 8800Mh/s
- Oxo nothing for hours - Uniminig - tested few coins but problems with connections.
Just convert to NL to test it again, lets see fow few hours. Any way still need to test Kecak
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February 20, 2018, 09:13:22 PM |
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I'm still mining on NLPool so that mine_phun can still have some customers. Still a huge orphan issue, and honestly i don't know why, as unimining doesn't have that issue. By the way, even with the poor performance on NLPool i believe I'm still earning more coins than those itsi bitsy teeny slices of action on unimining.
mine_phun, once you are stable, you need to intro fee's so you at least see some benefit for all your effort. Secondly, you grew to 14 or 17T in 48 hours, so they will come.
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February 20, 2018, 09:16:17 PM |
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you
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February 20, 2018, 09:29:25 PM |
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i just tried MAX coin on max on pool: max.thecoin.pw
but the hashrate is 1215 MH/s on 6xrx580, and WTM shows me only 1.1 USD extra on 6xRX580 this makes no sense.
VERGE was 4 USD... not is 2.5 USD still makes sense to do it but below 2 usd is useless.
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February 20, 2018, 09:29:28 PM |
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nlpool works ok now.. i got work etc. unfortunately massive orphans makes us work for nothing... hoprefully a good block now.
Was trying nlpool overnight and got definitely good pymt. However, it seems giving too many orphans now that shows it's over again.
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February 20, 2018, 10:14:26 PM |
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At this point, NO pool is safe. I've tested them all. NL "was" the best, but i'm not comfortable with mining and not seeing a payout balance, so until there is definitive proof that NL is working perfectly, I will only solo mine ETH or ETC.
I wont even bother looking at any of the other pools that currently exist. Neither should any of you guys. Whether they're stealing or not, the payouts are just complete garbage and you're only wrecking your GPU's.
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February 20, 2018, 10:19:55 PM |
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you WOW in first few minutes 113 shares. look promising, lets see over night how will work. Thanks
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February 20, 2018, 10:21:37 PM |
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They are all thieves, have you heard the phrase -->"better steal from them now while we can", thing is they are all small pools and the practice of stealing has always been there and now they are stealing from many users cause there is nowhere else those miners can go.
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February 20, 2018, 11:00:36 PM |
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you WOW in first few minutes 113 shares. look promising, lets see over night how will work. Thanks Testing that
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February 20, 2018, 11:32:23 PM |
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I just try stratum+tcp://xvgminingclub.info:5766 for a few minutes. Balance is still 0. Running it for another 5 minutes.
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February 20, 2018, 11:33:54 PM |
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They are all thieves, have you heard the phrase -->"better steal from them now while we can", thing is they are all small pools and the practice of stealing has always been there and now they are stealing from many users cause there is nowhere else those miners can go.
I was testing NLpool and its woes continue - best part is all my XVG has vanished I had about 8.87 XVG - they restored the website from a backup going back 24 hrs and stated that the balance will not show I continued on the new website and got about 4 XVG - had to abandon using this pool since it was disconnecting all the time Now 12 hours later even the 4 XVG has vanished and it shows zero balance and zero payout So a total of 12 + XVG has vanished and I wasted so much time mining for them - most of the time it was disconnects . Wrote to them on the email on their website - hope they respond # NL POOL # mine_phun
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February 20, 2018, 11:49:03 PM |
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They are all thieves, have you heard the phrase -->"better steal from them now while we can", thing is they are all small pools and the practice of stealing has always been there and now they are stealing from many users cause there is nowhere else those miners can go.
I was testing NLpool and its woes continue - best part is all my XVG has vanished I had about 8.87 XVG - they restored the website from a backup going back 24 hrs and stated that the balance will not show I continued on the new website and got about 4 XVG - had to abandon using this pool since it was disconnecting all the time Now 12 hours later even the 4 XVG has vanished and it shows zero balance and zero payout So a total of 12 + XVG has vanished and I wasted so much time mining for them - most of the time it was disconnects . Wrote to them on the email on their website - hope they respond # NL POOL # mine_phun Same boat. I have about 9.1 XVG disappeared. Right below the pay out limit.
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February 20, 2018, 11:49:16 PM |
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At first we always respond.
Second, we went to a different setup last 48 hours so we had to take old servers offline.
The old payments will still be processed, you just start with a clean balance where you cannot see the old balances.
Just send us a email if something is wrong and we will fix it.
Thanks
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February 20, 2018, 11:57:59 PM |
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They are all thieves, have you heard the phrase -->"better steal from them now while we can", thing is they are all small pools and the practice of stealing has always been there and now they are stealing from many users cause there is nowhere else those miners can go.
I was testing NLpool and its woes continue - best part is all my XVG has vanished I had about 8.87 XVG - they restored the website from a backup going back 24 hrs and stated that the balance will not show I continued on the new website and got about 4 XVG - had to abandon using this pool since it was disconnecting all the time Now 12 hours later even the 4 XVG has vanished and it shows zero balance and zero payout So a total of 12 + XVG has vanished and I wasted so much time mining for them - most of the time it was disconnects . Wrote to them on the email on their website - hope they respond # NL POOL # mine_phun yep same here, went to have a look but they aren't really communicating neither of whats happening. so there isn't much we can do other than complain
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February 21, 2018, 12:25:26 AM |
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Hi blake2s dual miner's,
Claymore new blake2s dual mining offers new opportunities of mining. It seems like all the community get interested to this algorithm. All pools were immediately cannibalized by this hashrate.
Blake2s coins are often hosted on little and often new pool. Pool operators are working hard to avoid disconnections, to support increasing hashrate and miners,…
Lots of work, fixes, patches, coffees, nightmares, new servers, coffees again… Unimining jumped from 1000 miners to 35000 miners in few days only on the blake2s! That’s amazing!
Thanks to all (remaining) miners mining on UniMining. Thanks for your confidence. We do our best every day to ensure the best quality of services, investigating and acting on every bottleneck! Some fixes should still be implemented.
We apologize if you get bad earnings and we are still working on it. If you have the solution or any suggestions… or stop blaming us on all post;
Have a nice day.
This --> bskc member must be a legendary thief, I'm mean to come up here and say --> "hey, we at unimining are stealing you trolls and we love doing so, keep coming cause we are getting all your coins and don't worry cause we said --> Have a nice day" hehe I have seen many things in my life but that post is brilliant and i think is a first, so much cynical performance to a point to scare me how corrupt this mining thing has become.
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February 21, 2018, 01:14:57 AM |
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I just try stratum+tcp://xvgminingclub.info:5766 for a few minutes. Balance is still 0. Running it for another 5 minutes.
Well, 5 minutes aren't very long at all.
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February 21, 2018, 02:33:29 AM |
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Ugh just fed up with so many problems mining blake2s.
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Its look like that tonight only Antminer its working, on all other pools its dead. Now testing multipool.us but in past 15 minutes no records, i will wait little more to see.
Any way, how I was reed tonight, Blake2 and Keccak are old algos, and almost all coins are dead for mining
How I see solutions - Ant miner, with less profit - Pascal lite
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Its look like that tonight only Antminer its working, on all other pools its dead. Now testing multipool.us but in past 15 minutes no records, i will wait little more to see.
Any way, how I was reed tonight, Blake2 and Keccak are old algos, and almost all coins are dead for mining
How I see solutions - Ant miner, with less profit - Pascal lite
I put 50 at nlpool and 50 at antminepool. Looks like nlpool will give non-orphan in the last block.
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Its look like that tonight only Antminer its working, on all other pools its dead. Now testing multipool.us but in past 15 minutes no records, i will wait little more to see.
Any way, how I was reed tonight, Blake2 and Keccak are old algos, and almost all coins are dead for mining
How I see solutions - Ant miner, with less profit - Pascal lite
I put 50 at nlpool and 50 at antminepool. Looks like nlpool will give non-orphan in the last block. How I see in past few hours nowhere new blocks, only at ant, they are working
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February 21, 2018, 05:58:51 AM |
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there are pools which do not steal
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you I tired.... This pool after 9 hours: RIG1 - Hashrate: 75.2 Gh/s , Shares: 2.1463% Total: 94.5 XVG RIG2 - Hashrate: 100.6 Gh/s , Shares: 3.0897% Total: 154.49 XVG Make your own conclusions. Another thief !
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February 21, 2018, 06:49:15 AM |
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I guess they take the whole blood block for them, 1560 xvg hehe
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you I tired.... This pool after 9 hours: RIG1 - Hashrate: 75.2 Gh/s , Shares: 2.1463% Total: 94.5 XVG RIG2 - Hashrate: 100.6 Gh/s , Shares: 3.0897% Total: 154.49 XVG Make your own conclusions. Another thief !With your second rig you mined for 10 hours. You got 160 xvg for it Whattomine says you should get 20 xvg/hour So, you got about 20% less than wtm Its just the volatility of finding blocks Sometime you get less, some time more. But its not 50% from wtm like on other pools
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February 21, 2018, 06:58:05 AM |
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profits are down for every coin , crypto is down 15% across the board , duh
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February 21, 2018, 07:14:42 AM |
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you I tired.... This pool after 9 hours: RIG1 - Hashrate: 75.2 Gh/s , Shares: 2.1463% Total: 94.5 XVG RIG2 - Hashrate: 100.6 Gh/s , Shares: 3.0897% Total: 154.49 XVG Make your own conclusions. Another thief !With your second rig you mined for 10 hours. You got 160 xvg for it Whattomine says you should get 20 xvg/hour So, you got about 20% less than wtm Its just the volatility of finding blocks Sometime you get less, some time more. But its not 50% from wtm like on other pools Same rig's on nlpool for 10 hours about many, many connection lost and pool problems, my result is above 220 XVG ! this is not visible to me 20% * the speed that the pool looks like is average, maybe a little more As you may decide, I am expressing my results and observations.
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February 21, 2018, 07:50:21 AM |
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you I tired.... This pool after 9 hours: RIG1 - Hashrate: 75.2 Gh/s , Shares: 2.1463% Total: 94.5 XVG RIG2 - Hashrate: 100.6 Gh/s , Shares: 3.0897% Total: 154.49 XVG Make your own conclusions. Another thief !With your second rig you mined for 10 hours. You got 160 xvg for it Whattomine says you should get 20 xvg/hour So, you got about 20% less than wtm Its just the volatility of finding blocks Sometime you get less, some time more. But its not 50% from wtm like on other pools Same rig's on nlpool for 10 hours about many, many connection lost and pool problems, my result is above 220 XVG ! this is not visible to me 20% * the speed that the pool looks like is average, maybe a little more As you may decide, I am expressing my results and observations. I dont really believe you got 200 xvg on nlpool with almost every block orphan there
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February 21, 2018, 08:03:52 AM |
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Hi all
I just want to share my observations ..
I have been mining XVG since the day Claymore released v11 .. Lots of ppl complaining about steal and lost shares .. I can not be certain but I have a hunch that the problem is with the blockchain itself and maybe the fact that this coin can be mined via different algos.. Some history .. First I start mining on nicehash - I will not comment this .. then I found unimining .. atm the pool had around 10THs and I can tell you that my earnings was almost the same as WTM shows .. then the pool hash started to grow .. my shares became smaller and smaller .. BUT WITH THE POOL HASHRATE GREW blocks were not mined faster ... so less blocks with less shares equals less earnings .. then antmine was the next pool for me .. it had 5THs .. ppl grew angry with unimining and transfer to antmine .. so yet again the mining was almost identical to WTM and everything was fine .. until the hashrate became over 20THs .. same problem .. no matter that the pool had more hashes the block count did not grew accordingly .. then nlpool appeared .. SAME issue
SO .. I can not be sure if the pools steal but the FACT is founded block count DO NOT GROW AS EXPECTED ...
I guess we need more pools with 15THs pool hashrate
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you I tired.... This pool after 9 hours: RIG1 - Hashrate: 75.2 Gh/s , Shares: 2.1463% Total: 94.5 XVG RIG2 - Hashrate: 100.6 Gh/s , Shares: 3.0897% Total: 154.49 XVG Make your own conclusions. Another thief !With your second rig you mined for 10 hours. You got 160 xvg for it Whattomine says you should get 20 xvg/hour So, you got about 20% less than wtm Its just the volatility of finding blocks Sometime you get less, some time more. But its not 50% from wtm like on other pools Same rig's on nlpool for 10 hours about many, many connection lost and pool problems, my result is above 220 XVG ! this is not visible to me 20% * the speed that the pool looks like is average, maybe a little more As you may decide, I am expressing my results and observations. I dont really believe you got 200 xvg on nlpool with almost every block orphan there Unfortunately, the statistics about the minning. For comparison, I'll give in 10 hours from another pool ...
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They are all thieves.
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Hi all
I just want to share my observations ..
I have been mining XVG since the day Claymore released v11 .. Lots of ppl complaining about steal and lost shares .. I can not be certain but I have a hunch that the problem is with the blockchain itself and maybe the fact that this coin can be mined via different algos.. Some history .. First I start mining on nicehash - I will not comment this .. then I found unimining .. atm the pool had around 10THs and I can tell you that my earnings was almost the same as WTM shows .. then the pool hash started to grow .. my shares became smaller and smaller .. BUT WITH THE POOL HASHRATE GREW blocks were not mined faster ... so less blocks with less shares equals less earnings .. then antmine was the next pool for me .. it had 5THs .. ppl grew angry with unimining and transfer to antmine .. so yet again the mining was almost identical to WTM and everything was fine .. until the hashrate became over 20THs .. same problem .. no matter that the pool had more hashes the block count did not grew accordingly .. then nlpool appeared .. SAME issue
SO .. I can not be sure if the pools steal but the FACT is founded block count DO NOT GROW AS EXPECTED ...
I guess we need more pools with 15THs pool hashrate
^ This. I couldn't agree more. This has been my personal take on the matter just based on the math and not whattomine. It's transparent if you care to take the time to figure it out for yourself. Is the percentage of your hashrate to pool total correct? Does the amount your earning per block found equal this percentage minus fees? Mine has been correct across all the pools I've tried however my earnings have been all over the place. I started on antminepool when it was around 4th, and you're exactly right, earnings were at their very best when the pool was between 10th to 15th. After that my percentage per block grew smaller and smaller but the number of blocks found didn't keep pace. It's strange because that's what big pools are supposed to do for us, even out/stabilize our earnings but that's not happening with any of these pools. I went through the same thing with nlpool, although they have other issues going on as well. My guess is they have some sort of network latency issue causing the higher than average number of orphans.
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if this is the case, then we should also coordinate with verge's devs.
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Last 24h of antminepool xvg mining at 30500MH/s: Using xvg.antminepool.com:9008 Earned 94 XVG WTM shows 148 XVG Connection stable, hasrate chart on pool very stable. Where are 1/3 of earnings ?
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February 21, 2018, 10:45:45 AM |
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The Verge blocktime is 30 seconds. The difficulty algorithm is designed to ensure a block is found at this consistent interval. To me it's starting to look like WTM isn't using the correct current difficulty for blake2s. We just don't know how the Verge devs manage difficulty across multiple algos. I completely admit this is getting into shit that's way beyond my level of expertise but it appears to me we're all experiencing a rapid rise in difficulty that's not being shown to us when we check WTM, ergo a bunch of pissed off miners.
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February 21, 2018, 11:42:48 AM |
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bunch of pissed off miners.
In the end need to see if is worth or not, xvg is getting close to or is already at $0.10 per card per day and that is not good enough.
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February 21, 2018, 11:50:26 AM |
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I just read the Verge Blackpaper. XVG can be mined via 5 algorithms and each of these have an independant 30 second blocktime. So if I'm reading this correctly that's 5 blocks every 30 seconds, one for each algo. Also, each algo's difficulty is treated independently based on its respective hashrate. I've searched but can't seem to find anywhere that actually breaks down the five different algos to show the current difficulty for each. All I can find is the chart on coinwarz but it doesn't show any rise in difficulty over the past month so I call bullshit on that. Unless I'm completely wrong and it wouldn't be the first time, I think WTM has got to be using the wrong difficulty for B2s. Seems we flooded the B2s XVG algo with a fuck ton of hashrate in a matter of days and the profitability has plummeted. Really disappointing after what we went through with the asics coming in and ruining the good thing we had with DCR and SIA. I got my hopes up with this new miner and now I'm bummed again. Guess it's back to ETH only for me. At least I can look forward to a lower power bill.
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February 21, 2018, 12:04:50 PM |
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http://xvgminingclub.info is the best pool yet, but don't switch to it, let us mine peacefully
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February 21, 2018, 01:28:53 PM |
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NLPOOL was stable... for 2 days. Everything was GREAT. 1st day i got AS MUCH XVG as unimining 2.5 DAYS!
Now nlpool has been probable DDOSed by other pools that steal... or it just grow so much that cannot handle.. but that's not sure.
Cause the pool was ok for some time with 13 TH/s. Now it's 9-10 and there is problems so i guess attacks from others.
NO OTHER POOL IS OK (maybe antmine now.. was overloaded but i dont know about payments).
DONT USE OXO! 100% STEAL of hashpower.
Proof please? Also do you people realise that you will see balance 0 until a block is found? Because of low pool hashrate blocks wont come every minute. I know all of you saying that OxoPool stole your coins got payed, BUT only after block was found. You can post your wallet here so everyone can check did you got payed or not.
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February 21, 2018, 03:48:30 PM Last edit: February 21, 2018, 07:44:07 PM by Ratledge |
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there are pools which do not steal There may be, but when WTM gives you a negative income, it is time to punt. (charts from the beta side with a single card pulled to show trends) I put my observations in the Claymore thread this time - because I was directly addressing dual mining with his miner. I dropped back to ETH only after I got up three times to fix my rig overnight. It ran for days at a time with "-mode 0" but was overheating and sucking more power by 30% Edit: "JEEZ!" that image handler auto-resizes to the max it can display. I started out with a little tiny graphic from my phone. Negative income is not the result I need, anyway. My effective hashrate used to be slightly higher than actual, but it was 10-15% less for the last week or so. I see my rig finding shares three or four times a minute again, and I suppose that the shear amount of time spent reloading and building the DAG was the culprit.
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February 21, 2018, 05:15:28 PM |
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you I tired.... This pool after 9 hours: RIG1 - Hashrate: 75.2 Gh/s , Shares: 2.1463% Total: 94.5 XVG RIG2 - Hashrate: 100.6 Gh/s , Shares: 3.0897% Total: 154.49 XVG Make your own conclusions. Another thief !With your second rig you mined for 10 hours. You got 160 xvg for it Whattomine says you should get 20 xvg/hour So, you got about 20% less than wtm Its just the volatility of finding blocks Sometime you get less, some time more. But its not 50% from wtm like on other pools Same rig's on nlpool for 10 hours about many, many connection lost and pool problems, my result is above 220 XVG ! this is not visible to me 20% * the speed that the pool looks like is average, maybe a little more As you may decide, I am expressing my results and observations. I dont really believe you got 200 xvg on nlpool with almost every block orphan there Unfortunately, the statistics about the minning. For comparison, I'll give in 10 hours from another pool ... Done Test 9 hours in antminepool: RIG2 - Hashrate: 109.4 Gh/s, Shares: 0.1449% , Total Earned: 146.88628677 XVG
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February 21, 2018, 05:49:58 PM |
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At first we always respond.
Second, we went to a different setup last 48 hours so we had to take old servers offline.
The old payments will still be processed, you just start with a clean balance where you cannot see the old balances.
Just send us a email if something is wrong and we will fix it.
Thanks
email sent reporting issue.
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February 21, 2018, 07:23:37 PM |
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Is there someone with a big enough rig who could test 3-4 pools simultaneously for 24-48 hours and tell us how things workout?
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February 21, 2018, 08:05:52 PM |
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Doktor83, since you obviously have a vested interest in oxo, do you really think we're all going to take what you post as gospel? That's a valid assumption - in the post you refer us to - but it hardly justifies things we have seen from other posters. You can cherry pick posts to "prove" just about anything you want - if you disregard everything else, of course.
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February 21, 2018, 08:19:09 PM |
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10 hours testing NLPOOL with 30500MH/s Total Earned 0.19228040 XVG Doesn't work at all due to low pool hashrate vs orphans. Not going to back until they get like 15 confirmed blocks in row
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February 21, 2018, 08:22:51 PM |
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February 22, 2018, 02:45:16 AM |
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I have been checking my friends earnings on antminer for 2 days and has been a constant 45% less than whattomine says. Amazing, how much they are stealing from users, if antminer is stealing around 50%, imagine unimining and ZPool, count 100% - 300%.
Mind you that I only counted the lowest hashrate, for example if the highest was 5 tera, the lowest was 4.2 tera, so i'm counting with 20% less the profit, so meaning we can say antminer is stealing 45% + 12% = 57%.
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February 22, 2018, 06:53:39 AM |
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As it stands now, antminer is stealing + 30%, which makes almost 100%.
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February 22, 2018, 07:26:11 AM |
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you Currently the best pool and earnings.
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February 22, 2018, 10:29:03 AM |
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you Currently the best pool and earnings. Stats on block now: Orphan ! Best ? Now testing -dpool stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.ahashpool.com:5766
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February 22, 2018, 11:15:07 AM |
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Now testing -dpool stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.ahashpool.com:5766
With min payout of BTC 0.01 its going months before first payout
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February 22, 2018, 11:22:49 AM |
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Stats on block now: Orphan ! Best ? Now testing -dpool stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.ahashpool.com:5766 Report your resolts plz
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doktor83
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February 22, 2018, 02:52:14 PM |
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Every pool has lots of orphans, its a problem with the coin, not with pools. Also, educate yourself newbie accounts, how all this stuff works. Oh yeah, and if you have a decent hash ( 200-300ghs), come over to OxoPool http://www.oxo.rsIf we get to about 5-6-7THs that should make us a block every hour or two, and great payments. Use: -dcoin blake2s -dpool stratum+tcp://mining.oxo.rs:4444 -dwal <WALLET_ADDRESS> -dpsw c=XVG
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February 22, 2018, 04:04:38 PM |
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February 22, 2018, 04:09:20 PM |
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But u are getting payments?
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February 22, 2018, 04:31:38 PM |
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you Currently the best pool and earnings. I started mining on this pool several days ago, it was running well, but today it started to being fu**ed, maybe some ddos atacks from competitors....
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February 22, 2018, 10:44:14 PM |
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But u are getting payments? Well, I was at first but most blake2s pools are fucked up right now, so... not anymore. Except for that weird glitch.
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February 23, 2018, 12:39:22 AM |
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Just testet for some days with some rigs uni.
perfect connection, no problem with claymore dual at all
BUT: from calc. from whattomine i had everyday about (only) 66%
Fact: even with 66% it is the most i can make in dualwith xvg and with my R9 290 cards (all about 30.5/1450)
hope that helps
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February 23, 2018, 01:12:35 AM |
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I'm starting to wonder if maybe whattomine is fucked up I can see 1 or 2 pools being off but not all of them also claymore just came out with blake2s dual miner it make take some time to figure out correct calculations no one was prepared for this huge amount of hashpower to hit these coins also verge for instance has what 5 different algo's only so many coins can be mined in one day
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February 23, 2018, 02:23:50 AM |
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so where are people mining ? las few days ive just wasted fucking power minibg to these BS pools, xvgmingclub and nl pool
solo mining seems broken via claymore
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February 23, 2018, 02:42:31 AM |
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I'm starting to wonder if maybe whattomine is fucked up I can see 1 or 2 pools being off but not all of them also claymore just came out with blake2s dual miner it make take some time to figure out correct calculations no one was prepared for this huge amount of hashpower to hit these coins also verge for instance has what 5 different algo's only so many coins can be mined in one day
whattomine is not wrong, in the beginning calculations worked right, after few days no, cause pools took advantage of huge hashrate to steal coins.
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February 23, 2018, 07:39:06 AM |
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xvgminingclub.info is protected with anti ddos from now
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February 23, 2018, 07:59:21 AM |
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Jumping back and forth from Blake 2 to Keccak over all possible pools in past week just made me a big problem. Suddenly I can not dual any more, and on one rig in mode 1 Claymore just stop. Now back again to reinstall all drivers
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February 23, 2018, 10:08:05 AM |
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Want to share with you new blake2s verge pool: http://xvgminingclub.info/its rather stable, low commision 0.5% try it yourself and you will see how much uni and antpool steal from you Currently the best pool and earnings. Stats on block now: Orphan ! Best ? Now testing -dpool stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.ahashpool.com:5766 Comparing with other XVG pools, currently best profit.
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February 23, 2018, 10:26:04 AM |
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I talked to my friend and said to him that the best thing right now is mining only eth, no point mining for such low profit, it can not even pay the electricity is using.
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February 24, 2018, 12:35:38 PM |
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Nlpool seems stable again. http://mine.nlpool.nl. They have DDoS protection now.
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February 24, 2018, 04:07:59 PM |
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NevaCoin Added to OxoPool :
NEVACOIN (NEVA) CLAYMORE ETH 11:
-dcoin blake2s -dpool stratum+tcp://mining.oxo.rs:4444 -dwal <NEVA_WALLET_ADDRESS> -dpsw c=NEVA
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February 24, 2018, 06:59:16 PM Last edit: February 24, 2018, 07:39:02 PM by biospb |
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Do not blindly trust Whattomine too much. Sometimes it gives wierd results.
Very rough theoretical profit can be calculated as: blocks per day * price per block / net hash * your hash. for example, yesterday for PASC Whattomine showed about 1.2PASC (1.8$) profit per day (for 2150MH). Calculations (from Whattomine numbers) gave about 0.8PASC (1.2$), and real testing on Nanopool also. So Whattomine was lying. Now they are correct (for PASC). So where they are lying today?)
More real result can be archived by calculations from pool stats. for example, Antmining shows that it mined 177 blocks for last 24H. Its hashrate is about 95.5TH. each block gives 1560XVG. so with 26GH I will get about 75XVG per 24H. (177*1560/95500*26) And really I got it. Even little bit more. So they do not steal anything. (Unimining does - about 50% or more) But with XVG there is another issue. Whattomine show its NETHASH as 163.95 Th/s, but Unimining + Antmine is already 139+96 = 235 TH - 40% more!!!! and there are other pools and solo miners. So Whattotime lying again. And that's why you do not get profit as it shows....
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February 24, 2018, 08:30:11 PM |
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for how long tho, everytime i goi back i get fucked , I lost a whole damn week on this pool and the mining club junk pool, thats like $1500 usd lost I'll keep my 400ghs at Zpool for now, even though they steal 20% at least Im not potentially wasting all my electricity
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February 24, 2018, 08:32:14 PM |
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Do not blindly trust Whattomine too much. Sometimes it gives wierd results.
Very rough theoretical profit can be calculated as: blocks per day * price per block / net hash * your hash. for example, yesterday for PASC Whattomine showed about 1.2PASC (1.8$) profit per day (for 2150MH). Calculations (from Whattomine numbers) gave about 0.8PASC (1.2$), and real testing on Nanopool also. So Whattomine was lying. Now they are correct (for PASC). So where they are lying today?)
More real result can be archived by calculations from pool stats. for example, Antmining shows that it mined 177 blocks for last 24H. Its hashrate is about 95.5TH. each block gives 1560XVG. so with 26GH I will get about 75XVG per 24H. (177*1560/95500*26) And really I got it. Even little bit more. So they do not steal anything. (Unimining does - about 50% or more) But with XVG there is another issue. Whattomine show its NETHASH as 163.95 Th/s, but Unimining + Antmine is already 139+96 = 235 TH - 40% more!!!! and there are other pools and solo miners. So Whattotime lying again. And that's why you do not get profit as it shows....
Zpool is defintalty stealing. I made 1300 XCG yesteday with 380ghs according to normal calculators i should have made around 1500-1700 that 400 xvg diff is quite large , but at least they are stable.
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February 24, 2018, 10:33:37 PM |
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for how long tho, everytime i goi back i get fucked , I lost a whole damn week on this pool and the mining club junk pool, thats like $1500 usd lost I'll keep my 400ghs at Zpool for now, even though they steal 20% at least Im not potentially wasting all my electricity I know, I had a bad time in both too. But things needs to happen to get improvements. Things are stable, till now ofc. https://i.imgur.com/rCjQT29.png. 8 blocks mined and 0 orphans. With my hashrate wtm says i should get 22 xvg per day. I alredy have 24 XVG and hasn't passed a day.
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February 24, 2018, 11:19:42 PM |
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for how long tho, everytime i goi back i get fucked , I lost a whole damn week on this pool and the mining club junk pool, thats like $1500 usd lost I'll keep my 400ghs at Zpool for now, even though they steal 20% at least Im not potentially wasting all my electricity I know, I had a bad time in both too. But things needs to happen to get improvements. Things are stable, till now ofc. . 8 blocks mined and 0 orphans. With my hashrate wtm says i should get 22 xvg per day. I alredy have 24 XVG and hasn't passed a day. I'll wait a few days, luckily i wrote a program that auto updates all my 40 rigs at once and reboots them with new pools or dual pools windows only, debating on selling it on this forum or keeping it to my self lol.
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February 25, 2018, 02:53:37 AM |
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for how long tho, everytime i goi back i get fucked , I lost a whole damn week on this pool and the mining club junk pool, thats like $1500 usd lost
I'll keep my 400ghs at Zpool for now, even though they steal 20% at least Im not potentially wasting all my electricity
Have you tried "xvg2.coinfoundry.org:" I've been with this pool for the past 4 days, and so far its been up the whole time, it never went to my secondary pool once. I'm getting way more shares then when i was at zpool, but it could be that we are in a lucky run.
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February 25, 2018, 04:12:56 AM |
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for how long tho, everytime i goi back i get fucked , I lost a whole damn week on this pool and the mining club junk pool, thats like $1500 usd lost
I'll keep my 400ghs at Zpool for now, even though they steal 20% at least Im not potentially wasting all my electricity
Have you tried "xvg2.coinfoundry.org:" I've been with this pool for the past 4 days, and so far its been up the whole time, it never went to my secondary pool once. I'm getting way more shares then when i was at zpool, but it could be that we are in a lucky run. Ill try NL in a few days if it stays stable one last shot
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February 25, 2018, 07:09:14 AM |
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for how long tho, everytime i goi back i get fucked , I lost a whole damn week on this pool and the mining club junk pool, thats like $1500 usd lost
I'll keep my 400ghs at Zpool for now, even though they steal 20% at least Im not potentially wasting all my electricity
Have you tried "xvg2.coinfoundry.org:" I've been with this pool for the past 4 days, and so far its been up the whole time, it never went to my secondary pool once. I'm getting way more shares then when i was at zpool, but it could be that we are in a lucky run. Ill try NL in a few days if it stays stable one last shot on nlpool no block for 10 hours with 3+THs so no reward, something wrong there.
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February 25, 2018, 07:33:04 AM |
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for how long tho, everytime i goi back i get fucked , I lost a whole damn week on this pool and the mining club junk pool, thats like $1500 usd lost
I'll keep my 400ghs at Zpool for now, even though they steal 20% at least Im not potentially wasting all my electricity
Have you tried "xvg2.coinfoundry.org:" I've been with this pool for the past 4 days, and so far its been up the whole time, it never went to my secondary pool once. I'm getting way more shares then when i was at zpool, but it could be that we are in a lucky run. Ill try NL in a few days if it stays stable one last shot on nlpool no block for 10 hours with 3+THs so no reward, something wrong there. yup Verge 37m ago 1907940 1560 Immature (70/140) 58814.1289 74651.4385 1HWEDUP... 000000000000e0bcbd4d2babc3d19d8074d58af639edca37a13d21aecea1b62c Verge 67m ago 1907872 1560.1 Immature (138/140) 47889.2752 156425.155 Lg46KQD... 0000000000006b4097b7e716bdf852a407111bf48ae5dcda4edc1a27c698ccdc Verge 2h ago 1907753 1560 Confirmed 76796.1549 2803058.82 19HZvoW... 00000000000005fc383a71145bb856ffa99ca9df8cf7eb63a29f9df20b16d5b3 Verge 2h ago 1907752 1560 Confirmed 81503.3733 128471.818 3Qans5U... 0000000000008296b11f1dfb0b66028984c47fc16a150189d629a51951c3c4fd Verge 2h ago 1907749 1560.1 Confirmed 79304.6469 94664.8272 3Qans5U... 000000000000b1398fe8e84b24a5893062c1a8845baa482fd3e715c634dd0360 Verge 2h ago 1907697 1560 Confirmed 69968.9126 157125.939 12BjBuC... 0000000000006ac622c975641e7261c413cda10f6116f1e98b94ebe576110dac Verge 3h ago 1907679 1560 Confirmed 84735.4646 38928542 3M3FjGx... 000000000000006e53eda1c7717a5cc9d8ef740f6b6bc16ab7b5ef4e3b1245e2 Verge 3h ago 1907618 1560.4 Confirmed 53721.1908 93037.5347 1F9ZibB... 000000000000b4531ba430367e62168cd3284ac358b522330a659f82e2efaa7a Verge 4h ago 1907576 1566.778027 Confirmed 80436.4034 93915.1605 Lg46KQD... 000000000000b2a3b827c36bafec5e0680febe891658287e84b53fb1fc946b62 Verge 4h ago 1907563 1560.1 Confirmed 60799.855 204245.079 3PphaKd... 00000000000052242d6e32ee11992cd0f1841919f5431c8cc9a56be393f5511c Verge 4h ago 1907477 1560.2 Confirmed 65266.1119 308535.189 1GoAs2s... 00000000000036604c47b1933ed7dcca6ece424a190b54dc999cb5c3069b0306 Verge 5h ago 1907456 1560 Confirmed 75287.0749 229196.882 36scfrR... 0000000000004932eb38b84e7b7d900b89d4d990af3d2977374e52e3a16ec624 Verge 5h ago 1907393 1560.3 Confirmed 69673.7953 232916.122 34wcsgW... 0000000000004807b16484e1a8d2ec9488ee5e2621fb5622e29fd3b4c9fe877c Verge 6h ago 1907347 1560 Confirmed 69415.9193 128787.367 3PphaKd... 0000000000008244c812d50ba480209aa6595cb3d10c3ac943e04046204807d9 Verge 6h ago 1907324 1560 Confirmed 73757.5435 73974.8543 13MJ4RU... 000000000000e2caf117b52b7c8588e6d5e8d8cbe4d536f6056340adccb88215 Verge 6h ago 1907320 1560 Confirmed 72562.4991 105437.27 1AVqUY2... 0000000000009f1e3099c33340b85018c8705e6256c94bdd671b3e437b13f6f0 Verge 6h ago 1907314 1560.1 Confirmed 65178.9504 74167.5904 1JQUGVd... 000000000000e23411094cfcc6b770f27a2e4c901e1be42178ee9e02fc3146dd Verge 6h ago 1907297 1560.9 Confirmed 52243.0575 59673.9639 1FPJXvN... 0000000000011924ca9dfdfb2999b64d6b830276092e50b4eb5cbaf93ec96853 Verge 6h ago 1907279 0 Orphan 36197.4662 59378.5461 3PphaKd... 0000000000011a8ade1d020bfeffaf4de7361963dfa89da6e6a0b675af861f8c Verge 6h ago 1907278 1560 Confirmed 34190.7222 50343.4457 1L62VTJ... 0000000000014d4008c24f00a32e0d9c5c2aaa23b2b1464842e50bef98326565 Verge 8h ago 1907144 1560 Confirmed 63435.5182 70089.8535 MT8fW3f... 000000000000ef5d15339ec3e1d793ae7f6c8768c107e069e20120b86e51f5d3 Verge 8h ago 1907133 1560 Confirmed 62480.3864 87456.0015 3PphaKd... 000000000000bfd5492079e99ac35e1e84da8b0464455951a77b3156e6c43fbf Verge 8h ago 1907090 1560.2 Confirmed 44428.4862 55393.3559 3PphaKd... 0000000000012ede99e666c743bf648bdfd90183bdc0493948ab0a3f1bb3041a Verge 8h ago 1907089 1560 Confirmed 46033.7384 130779.724 1JQUGVd... 0000000000008048bb3673ae0e610b9d8db26558f7376ae1a5aca19dc53cf2bd Verge 8h ago 1907088 1560.5 Confirmed 47668.166 173736.892 1JQUGVd... 0000000000006090b957c8eff3effefffd6e8b57f4c1560a5d7b7af48ce8e121 Verge 9h ago 1906990 1566.521855 Confirmed 48261.6613 184618.939 3PphaKd... 0000000000005adf9a74c153832426c5813338c7fb163ce98c4bcd54a12b702b Verge 9h ago 1906936 1560 Confirmed 32950.2609 81812.5727 D6yo2VF... 000000000000cd10d7baa597a6778be481c821e1e5f450cd0c0ccb1f1fd50e86
meantime on zpool mad blocks , yeah they steal from you buy its better than wasting power
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mine_phun where is the blocks on nlpool? Im waste all my hashpower all night
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luckily i wrote a program that auto updates all my 40 rigs at once and reboots them with new pools or dual pools windows only, debating on selling it on this forum or keeping it to my self lol. Keep it
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February 25, 2018, 05:37:07 PM |
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guys forget about blake2s and XVG. Switch to keccak with SMARTcash. Online wallet, 100% working 0% fee official pool only problem with exchange - need to make account www.coinexchange.io and change to BTC (eventually to ETC later for withdrawal)
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February 25, 2018, 05:53:23 PM |
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guys forget about blake2s and XVG. Switch to keccak with SMARTcash. Online wallet, 100% working 0% fee official pool only problem with exchange - need to make account www.coinexchange.io and change to BTC (eventually to ETC later for withdrawal) They have also big problems with pools, more time their pools are down from up. Totally waste of energy for few nights
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February 25, 2018, 06:26:19 PM |
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group question as the calculators are all over the place and with pools all over the place too
4500MH/s what should I be getting out of XVG?
or should I say, what would be reasonable
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February 25, 2018, 06:32:57 PM |
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group question as the calculators are all over the place and with pools all over the place too
4500MH/s what should I be getting out of XVG?
or should I say, what would be reasonable
Real question is where you can find stability, no reconnections,... My rigs was worked few nights for different pools for them, and not for me. I had a similar speed, and top was around 50 XVG per 24 hours when I had stability. on Antminerpool
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February 25, 2018, 07:20:42 PM |
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group question as the calculators are all over the place and with pools all over the place too
4500MH/s what should I be getting out of XVG?
or should I say, what would be reasonable
Real question is where you can find stability, no reconnections,... My rigs was worked few nights for different pools for them, and not for me. I had a similar speed, and top was around 50 XVG per 24 hours when I had stability. on Antminerpool LOL I dont have that in total over the 3 pools I have tried over the last week(started Monday) this is sad I think the best I have gotten in a day is about 16 XVG
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February 25, 2018, 07:37:32 PM |
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LOL I dont have that in total over the 3 pools I have tried over the last week(started Monday) this is sad I think the best I have gotten in a day is about 16 XVG
Diff went up too, and also problems with pools, after all week switching between pools and Blake and Keccak I just give up. Not worth at all for me. And now I am stuck with problems in ETH or ETC single mining. I am not shure is it this last Win update or some Virus or who knows, but not normal behavior on my rigs.
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February 25, 2018, 09:43:37 PM |
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LOL I dont have that in total over the 3 pools I have tried over the last week(started Monday) this is sad I think the best I have gotten in a day is about 16 XVG
Diff went up too, and also problems with pools, after all week switching between pools and Blake and Keccak I just give up. Not worth at all for me. And now I am stuck with problems in ETH or ETC single mining. I am not shure is it this last Win update or some Virus or who knows, but not normal behavior on my rigs. May i ask why you guys don't mine Shield? ( https://www.shieldx.sh ) This coin has almost the same value as Verge but finding a block is much more easy as the difficulty is lower. We have it configured @ NLpool and you can mine it like: EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethermine.org:4444 -ewal <YourETHADDRES>.<RIGNAME> -epsw x -etha 0 -dpool stratum+tcp://mine.nlpool.nl:5766 -dwal <YOURSHIELDWALLETADDRES> -dpsw c=XSH -dcoin blake2s -r 1 -minspeed -140 -dcri 45 For this time it is more profitable as Verge i guess.
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February 25, 2018, 10:09:04 PM |
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I tried for 2 days, we would need some hashrate to come in there as it gave a very poor return-10.x in two days. Only 3ghs though. Mine_phum can you confirm what pools there are and the % for shield or at least what we would need to put on there to actually get some of the action?
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February 25, 2018, 10:16:11 PM |
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I tried for 2 days, we would need some hashrate to come in there as it gave a very poor return-10.x in two days. Only 3ghs though. Mine_phum can you confirm what pools there are and the % for shield or at least what we would need to put on there to actually get some of the action?
Well, if you just put it on NLpool and let it run, you should find XSH in your account after 24 hours, there is enough hashpower in the pool already for this coin to find a few blocks a day.
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Nlpool 2x Orphan 3 is too much :$
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February 27, 2018, 04:09:05 PM Last edit: February 27, 2018, 04:55:08 PM by mine_phun |
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Nlpool 2x Orphan 3 is too much :$
It seems Verge had a split today ... We are on the fast part of the network because i selected a lot of peers for it, however when the network is slow and lagging part is bigger then 51%, then we're screwed. It happens in every pool these days because XVG is just overloaded. Ohh well..... The good news is that we have add more coins in our pool these days : Tajcoin ( -p c=taj ) Infocoin ( -p c=info ) Nevacoin ( -p c=neva ) Shield ( -p c=xsh ) Verge ( -p c=xvg ) All on blake2s..... And the good news is that the pool is rock stable ... No disconnects anymore.
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February 27, 2018, 04:48:29 PM Last edit: February 27, 2018, 05:31:01 PM by Neu_Cinetico |
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Nlpool 2x Orphan 3 is too much :$
It seems Verge had a split today ... We are on the fast part of the network because i selected a lot of peers for it, however when the network is slow and lagging part is bigger then 51%, then we're screwed. It happens in every pool these days because XVG is just overloaded. Ohh well..... The good news is that we have add more coins in our pool these days : Tajcoin ( -p c=taj ) Infocoin ( -p c=info ) Nevacoin ( -p c=neva ) Shield ( -p c=xsh ) All on blake2s..... And the good news is that the pool is rock stable ... No disconnects anymore. so we cant mine XVG there?? mybe i will try shild-.- starting having many difernt coins and not much to trade....
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February 27, 2018, 04:56:44 PM |
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Nlpool 2x Orphan 3 is too much :$
It seems Verge had a split today ... We are on the fast part of the network because i selected a lot of peers for it, however when the network is slow and lagging part is bigger then 51%, then we're screwed. It happens in every pool these days because XVG is just overloaded. Ohh well..... The good news is that we have add more coins in our pool these days : Tajcoin ( -p c=taj ) Infocoin ( -p c=info ) Nevacoin ( -p c=neva ) Shield ( -p c=xsh ) Verge ( -p c=xvg ) All on blake2s..... And the good news is that the pool is rock stable ... No disconnects anymore. so we cant mine XVG there?? mybe i will try shild-.- starting having many difernt coins and not much to trade.... Sorry, my bad.... off course you can mine Verge.... Just use ass password c=xvg. Can you please edit what you quoted from me and correct it? .. Also Shield c=XSH... not C=Shield....
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February 27, 2018, 05:34:02 PM |
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Nlpool 2x Orphan 3 is too much :$
It seems Verge had a split today ... We are on the fast part of the network because i selected a lot of peers for it, however when the network is slow and lagging part is bigger then 51%, then we're screwed. It happens in every pool these days because XVG is just overloaded. Ohh well..... The good news is that we have add more coins in our pool these days : Tajcoin ( -p c=taj ) Infocoin ( -p c=info ) Nevacoin ( -p c=neva ) Shield ( -p c=xsh ) Verge ( -p c=xvg ) All on blake2s..... And the good news is that the pool is rock stable ... No disconnects anymore. so we cant mine XVG there?? mybe i will try shild-.- starting having many difernt coins and not much to trade.... Sorry, my bad.... off course you can mine Verge.... Just use ass password c=xvg. Can you please edit what you quoted from me and correct it? .. Also Shield c=XSH... not C=Shield.... Just get a payment, i will stay a little more in verge mode Thanks, nice job and getting better
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February 27, 2018, 08:54:32 PM |
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http://xvgminingclub.info pool (blake2s verge) moved to new dedicated server. Current features: -low fee -server in Germany, low latency in Europe -one of the biggest pools among ones that do not steal -stable hash and payout (now REALLY stable Smiley ) -cool community in Telegram Thanks Cheesy
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February 28, 2018, 02:03:02 PM |
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May i ask why you guys don't mine Shield? ( https://www.shieldx.sh ) This coin has almost the same value as Verge but finding a block is much more easy as the difficulty is lower. Would you consider lowering the fee to attract more miners?
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February 28, 2018, 02:10:33 PM |
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May i ask why you guys don't mine Shield? ( https://www.shieldx.sh ) This coin has almost the same value as Verge but finding a block is much more easy as the difficulty is lower. Would you consider lowering the fee to attract more miners? Our fee is at 0% at the moment untill April 1st. .... Can't go much lower ?? As example to mine SHIELD: EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethpool.org:4444 -ewal <Your_ETH_WALLETADDRESS>.<YourWorkerName> -epsw x -dpool stratum+tcp://mine.nlpool.nl:5766 -dwal <YOURSHIELDWALLETADDRESS> -dpsw c=xsh As example to mine VERGE: EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethpool.org:4444 -ewal <Your_ETH_WALLETADDRESS>.<YourWorkerName> -epsw x -dpool stratum+tcp://mine.nlpool.nl:5766 -dwal <YOURVERGEWALLETADDRESS> -dpsw c=xvg For more examples and coins you can check out website nlpool.nl
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February 28, 2018, 05:52:09 PM |
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NLPOOL was stable... for 2 days. Everything was GREAT. 1st day i got AS MUCH XVG as unimining 2.5 DAYS!
Now nlpool has been probable DDOSed by other pools that steal... or it just grow so much that cannot handle.. but that's not sure.
Cause the pool was ok for some time with 13 TH/s. Now it's 9-10 and there is problems so i guess attacks from others.
NO OTHER POOL IS OK (maybe antmine now.. was overloaded but i dont know about payments).
DONT USE OXO! 100% STEAL of hashpower.
Proof please? Also do you people realise that you will see balance 0 until a block is found? Because of low pool hashrate blocks wont come every minute. I know all of you saying that OxoPool stole your coins got payed, BUT only after block was found. You can post your wallet here so everyone can check did you got payed or not. I mined before and after the the shield block was found and confirmed on oxopool yesterday. I have not been paid nor do I see a pending balance
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February 28, 2018, 05:56:56 PM Last edit: February 28, 2018, 09:28:37 PM by btcshiner |
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Every pool has lots of orphans, its a problem with the coin, not with pools. Also, educate yourself newbie accounts, how all this stuff works. Oh yeah, and if you have a decent hash ( 200-300ghs), come over to OxoPool http://www.oxo.rsIf we get to about 5-6-7THs that should make us a block every hour or two, and great payments. Use: -dcoin blake2s -dpool stratum+tcp://mining.oxo.rs:4444 -dwal <WALLET_ADDRESS> -dpsw c=XVGI mined at Oxopool before during and after the sheild block was found yesterday and I did not get paid nor do I see a pending balance. SZGK8pc8FiS2fPNAvKy7aYPdWYtWnCeWfA Problem resolved. Thanks DR.
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February 28, 2018, 06:08:58 PM |
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NLPOOL was stable... for 2 days. Everything was GREAT. 1st day i got AS MUCH XVG as unimining 2.5 DAYS!
Now nlpool has been probable DDOSed by other pools that steal... or it just grow so much that cannot handle.. but that's not sure.
Cause the pool was ok for some time with 13 TH/s. Now it's 9-10 and there is problems so i guess attacks from others.
NO OTHER POOL IS OK (maybe antmine now.. was overloaded but i dont know about payments).
DONT USE OXO! 100% STEAL of hashpower.
Proof please? Also do you people realise that you will see balance 0 until a block is found? Because of low pool hashrate blocks wont come every minute. I know all of you saying that OxoPool stole your coins got payed, BUT only after block was found. You can post your wallet here so everyone can check did you got payed or not. I mined at Oxopool before during and after the sheild block was found yesterday and I did not get paid nor do I see a pending balance and nothing has moved off zero. SZGK8pc8FiS2fPNAvKy7aYPdWYtWnCeWfA
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February 28, 2018, 06:29:32 PM |
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May i ask why you guys don't mine Shield? ( https://www.shieldx.sh ) This coin has almost the same value as Verge but finding a block is much more easy as the difficulty is lower. Would you consider lowering the fee to attract more miners? Our fee is at 0% at the moment untill April 1st. .... Can't go much lower ?? As example to mine SHIELD: EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethpool.org:4444 -ewal <Your_ETH_WALLETADDRESS>.<YourWorkerName> -epsw x -dpool stratum+tcp://mine.nlpool.nl:5766 -dwal <YOURSHIELDWALLETADDRESS> -dpsw c=xsh As example to mine VERGE: EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethpool.org:4444 -ewal <Your_ETH_WALLETADDRESS>.<YourWorkerName> -epsw x -dpool stratum+tcp://mine.nlpool.nl:5766 -dwal <YOURVERGEWALLETADDRESS> -dpsw c=xvg For more examples and coins you can check out website nlpool.nl It looks like neva showing up for ppl mining only xvg. Please look into the case. All of those labelled as "exchange". Does it mean neva will automatically exchange to equivalent xvg? Thanks.
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February 28, 2018, 06:38:01 PM |
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May i ask why you guys don't mine Shield? ( https://www.shieldx.sh ) This coin has almost the same value as Verge but finding a block is much more easy as the difficulty is lower. Would you consider lowering the fee to attract more miners? Our fee is at 0% at the moment untill April 1st. .... Can't go much lower ?? As example to mine SHIELD: EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethpool.org:4444 -ewal <Your_ETH_WALLETADDRESS>.<YourWorkerName> -epsw x -dpool stratum+tcp://mine.nlpool.nl:5766 -dwal <YOURSHIELDWALLETADDRESS> -dpsw c=xsh As example to mine VERGE: EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethpool.org:4444 -ewal <Your_ETH_WALLETADDRESS>.<YourWorkerName> -epsw x -dpool stratum+tcp://mine.nlpool.nl:5766 -dwal <YOURVERGEWALLETADDRESS> -dpsw c=xvg For more examples and coins you can check out website nlpool.nl It looks like neva showing up for ppl mining only xvg. Please look into the case. All of those labelled as "exchange". Does it mean neva will automatically exchange to equivalent xvg? Thanks. Same here and verge getting red :$ what that means?
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February 28, 2018, 07:26:56 PM |
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NLPOOL was stable... for 2 days. Everything was GREAT. 1st day i got AS MUCH XVG as unimining 2.5 DAYS!
Now nlpool has been probable DDOSed by other pools that steal... or it just grow so much that cannot handle.. but that's not sure.
Cause the pool was ok for some time with 13 TH/s. Now it's 9-10 and there is problems so i guess attacks from others.
NO OTHER POOL IS OK (maybe antmine now.. was overloaded but i dont know about payments).
DONT USE OXO! 100% STEAL of hashpower.
Proof please? Also do you people realise that you will see balance 0 until a block is found? Because of low pool hashrate blocks wont come every minute. I know all of you saying that OxoPool stole your coins got payed, BUT only after block was found. You can post your wallet here so everyone can check did you got payed or not. I mined at Oxopool before during and after the sheild block was found yesterday and I did not get paid nor do I see a pending balance and nothing has moved off zero. SZGK8pc8FiS2fPNAvKy7aYPdWYtWnCeWfA As i told you in private message, you are trying to mine DCR, all your shares are rejected. I don't know one pool that pays for rejected shares So please before posting something like this check everything first, don't just start blaming THE POOL for everything.
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February 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM |
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I'm checking the specs now. so far everything is/was specked for shield. Testing with verge now.
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February 28, 2018, 07:55:57 PM |
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I'm checking the specs now. so far everything is/was specked for shield. Testing with verge now.
use claymore 11, only that version and newer supports blake2s algo. also paste your verge address here so i can check are you again sending bad shares.
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February 28, 2018, 08:26:27 PM |
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I'm checking the specs now. so far everything is/was specked for shield. Testing with verge now.
use claymore 11, only that version and newer supports blake2s algo. also paste your verge address here so i can check are you again sending bad shares. I was on 11 I thought. I redownloaded and moved all the cuda files to the main folder. SZGK8pc8FiS2fPNAvKy7aYPdWYtWnCeWfA This seems to have fixed it as I am seeing no rejects. Sorry I thought I was 50% good and 50% rejects on yesterday's block. frustrating as the only change I made was moving the cuda files and I lost a day Thanks for not calling me an ahole. Lets hop I can get paid now
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February 28, 2018, 09:07:39 PM |
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I'm launching a new pool for XVG Blake2s. 0% FEE during beta, then real 1% FEE. No more hidden fees ever. Many pool advertise 0% FEE but they steal 30% - 50% of what we mine. Multiple premium servers, high availability and load balancing. I've been testing for weeks but I need real load conditions to test. If you can, give me a chance. https://premiumminer.comThanks!
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February 28, 2018, 09:26:37 PM |
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Great! Let's get some more hash over!
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May i ask why you guys don't mine Shield? ( https://www.shieldx.sh ) This coin has almost the same value as Verge but finding a block is much more easy as the difficulty is lower. Would you consider lowering the fee to attract more miners? Our fee is at 0% at the moment untill April 1st. .... Can't go much lower ?? As example to mine SHIELD: EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethpool.org:4444 -ewal <Your_ETH_WALLETADDRESS>.<YourWorkerName> -epsw x -dpool stratum+tcp://mine.nlpool.nl:5766 -dwal <YOURSHIELDWALLETADDRESS> -dpsw c=xsh As example to mine VERGE: EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethpool.org:4444 -ewal <Your_ETH_WALLETADDRESS>.<YourWorkerName> -epsw x -dpool stratum+tcp://mine.nlpool.nl:5766 -dwal <YOURVERGEWALLETADDRESS> -dpsw c=xvg For more examples and coins you can check out website nlpool.nl Hi, I am using your pool to mine Verge with -dpsw c=xvg in my command line but am noticing that infocoin and Nevacoin are in my last 50 Earnings. Any idea why?
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March 01, 2018, 04:36:14 AM |
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Hi,
I am using your pool to mine Verge with -dpsw c=xvg in my command line but am noticing that infocoin and Nevacoin are in my last 50 Earnings. Any idea why?
It is an overflow setting. When the VERGE network is getting slow and there is no work for your miner, the server can do two things. One is to disconnect you, second is to give you another task so your power is not wasted. We choose the second, since disconnecting gives other problems ( Some Rigs start to reboot then and become unstable ).
They will be converted without any extra fees. As we don't like to do maintenance on live systems, we'll first test it tomorrow before enabling it to avoid problems.
Viewing post history of somebody before asking question may reveal answer to yours
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Chiko.Chavez
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March 01, 2018, 08:02:35 AM |
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Hi,
I am using your pool to mine Verge with -dpsw c=xvg in my command line but am noticing that infocoin and Nevacoin are in my last 50 Earnings. Any idea why?
It is an overflow setting. When the VERGE network is getting slow and there is no work for your miner, the server can do two things. One is to disconnect you, second is to give you another task so your power is not wasted. We choose the second, since disconnecting gives other problems ( Some Rigs start to reboot then and become unstable ).
They will be converted without any extra fees. As we don't like to do maintenance on live systems, we'll first test it tomorrow before enabling it to avoid problems.
Viewing post history of somebody before asking question may reveal answer to yours Or be lazy and wait for someone to reveal the answer. Thanks
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March 01, 2018, 08:22:48 AM |
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http://xvgminingclub.info pool (blake2s verge) moved to new dedicated server. Current features: -low fee -server in Germany, low latency in Europe -one of the biggest pools among ones that do not steal -stable hash and payout (now REALLY stable Smiley ) -cool community in Telegram Thanks Cheesy What happens with pool ? Missing dashboard webpage, cannot connect miner to server ...
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doktor83
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March 01, 2018, 09:14:19 AM |
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http://xvgminingclub.info pool (blake2s verge) moved to new dedicated server. Current features: -low fee -server in Germany, low latency in Europe -one of the biggest pools among ones that do not steal -stable hash and payout (now REALLY stable Smiley ) -cool community in Telegram Thanks Cheesy What happens with pool ? Missing dashboard webpage, cannot connect miner to server ... time to change pool and come over to us, we had an extra lucky day with verge yesterday
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March 01, 2018, 09:17:29 AM |
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http://xvgminingclub.info pool (blake2s verge) moved to new dedicated server. Current features: -low fee -server in Germany, low latency in Europe -one of the biggest pools among ones that do not steal -stable hash and payout (now REALLY stable Smiley ) -cool community in Telegram Thanks Cheesy What happens with pool ? Missing dashboard webpage, cannot connect miner to server ... time to change pool and come over to us, we had an extra lucky day with verge yesterday Sjees... seriously? Give me a break man .... this is really not how it works in a community. They are just doing maintenance and informed all of their members. They are hard working people + a honest pool from what i hear. If you advertise yourself, please do so in a positive manner.
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doktor83
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March 01, 2018, 09:23:02 AM |
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http://xvgminingclub.info pool (blake2s verge) moved to new dedicated server. Current features: -low fee -server in Germany, low latency in Europe -one of the biggest pools among ones that do not steal -stable hash and payout (now REALLY stable Smiley ) -cool community in Telegram Thanks Cheesy What happens with pool ? Missing dashboard webpage, cannot connect miner to server ... time to change pool and come over to us, we had an extra lucky day with verge yesterday Sjees... seriously? Give me a break man .... this is really not how it works in a community. They are just doing maintenance and informed all of their members and they are hard working people + a honest pool. If you advertise yourself, please do so in a positive manner. Ok, Batman, you are right. He shouldn't mine anywhere until that pool is fixed, cause that pool is his only option.
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March 01, 2018, 10:32:05 AM |
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http://xvgminingclub.info pool (blake2s verge) moved to new dedicated server. Current features: -low fee -server in Germany, low latency in Europe -one of the biggest pools among ones that do not steal -stable hash and payout (now REALLY stable Smiley ) -cool community in Telegram Thanks Cheesy What happens with pool ? Missing dashboard webpage, cannot connect miner to server ... time to change pool and come over to us, we had an extra lucky day with verge yesterday Sjees... seriously? Give me a break man .... this is really not how it works in a community. They are just doing maintenance and informed all of their members and they are hard working people + a honest pool. If you advertise yourself, please do so in a positive manner. Ok, Batman, you are right. He shouldn't mine anywhere until that pool is fixed, cause that pool is his only option. Orphan share! Shouldn’t have jinxed yourself
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Ambros
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March 01, 2018, 10:41:35 AM |
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I just started doing b2s dual mining with every type of cards and I have to admit that is works like a charm. Does not impact ETH performances at all and also the power consumptions does not seem to be changed in a measurable way.
I am using -dcri 30. Does someone have different performances or has any advice?
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March 01, 2018, 11:09:31 AM |
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@Ambros, You are right. It's does not impact ETH performances at all. I use 6 x Nvidia 1070 and ETH hash is very stable with 32 Mh/s per card and -dcri is between 45 and 47 (about 3000 H/s b2s for all GPU). Power consumption is the same as it is for solo mining 800-810w/per hour measured from the wall. @doktor83, your pool steal shares as many others do. For 12h of mining on http://xvgminingclub.info I got more then double number of XVG than I got on your or antimine pool. Because their unannounced "maintenance" last night I have moved to new pool - https://premiumminer.com Hope this will be decent place otherwise I will quit dual mining because I don't want to be good sheep and give someone 30-50% of my earnings.
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March 01, 2018, 11:43:55 AM |
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May i ask why you guys don't mine Shield? ( https://www.shieldx.sh ) This coin has almost the same value as Verge but finding a block is much more easy as the difficulty is lower. Would you consider lowering the fee to attract more miners? Our fee is at 0% at the moment untill April 1st. .... Can't go much lower ?? Sorry I missed this Well, I represent 66% of your Shield hasing power with a small rig. That's flattering but I feel a bit alone...
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March 01, 2018, 12:23:34 PM |
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I'm launching a new pool for XVG Blake2s. 0% FEE during beta, then real 1% FEE. No more hidden fees ever. Many pool advertise 0% FEE but they steal 30% - 50% of what we mine. Multiple premium servers, high availability and load balancing. I've been testing for weeks but I need real load conditions to test. If you can, give me a chance. https://premiumminer.comThanks! Moved 3 rigs to premiumminer. Waiting for first block...
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March 01, 2018, 12:40:15 PM |
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May i ask why you guys don't mine Shield? ( https://www.shieldx.sh ) This coin has almost the same value as Verge but finding a block is much more easy as the difficulty is lower. Would you consider lowering the fee to attract more miners? Our fee is at 0% at the moment untill April 1st. .... Can't go much lower ?? Sorry I missed this Well, I represent 66% of your Shield hasing power with a small rig. That's flattering but I feel a bit alone... Well, doesn't matter... I see you find one block a day, so all the shields are for you then? ;-)
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March 01, 2018, 12:48:35 PM |
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64.217% of the last found block, to be precise.
Weirdly, NL Pool tells me I also have some Verge, Infocoin and NevaCoin earnings. But, of course, they're not credited to my Shield wallet.
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mine_phun
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March 01, 2018, 12:49:22 PM |
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64.217% of the last found block, to be precise.
Weirdly, NL Pool tells me I also have some Verge, Infocoin and NevaCoin earnings. But, of course, they're not credited to my Shield wallet.
We are working on enabling exchange, so then it will go in your wallet.
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March 01, 2018, 12:58:30 PM |
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But I only mined Shield recently, so why to I see rewards in these other coins?
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doktor83
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March 01, 2018, 01:01:25 PM |
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@Ambros, You are right. It's does not impact ETH performances at all. I use 6 x Nvidia 1070 and ETH hash is very stable with 32 Mh/s per card and -dcri is between 45 and 47 (about 3000 H/s b2s for all GPU). Power consumption is the same as it is for solo mining 800-810w/per hour measured from the wall. @doktor83, your pool steal shares as many others do. For 12h of mining on http://xvgminingclub.info I got more then double number of XVG than I got on your or antimine pool. Because their unannounced "maintenance" last night I have moved to new pool - https://premiumminer.com Hope this will be decent place otherwise I will quit dual mining because I don't want to be good sheep and give someone 30-50% of my earnings. I tought you got 100x more than on Oxo. Seriously man, you and all of you yelling that pools steal : you are not getting anything until a block is found on Yiimp pools. When will you finally learn that? If hashrate on the pool is low, (like 2.5THS on Oxo, that is pretty low compare to uniminings 150THS), then the pool will find less blocks. Depending on the number of shares you sent, you will get a portion of the found block. You take the number of coins per block - pool fee, and calculate your % you got for your shares and that is the reward you get. Yes i know you want more, you think you deserve the whole block reward, but hey, that's not how this stuff works. It's easier to just bark than to actually learn how this stuff works. So i won't be repeating myself anymore, there will always be new noobies just like you blaming everyone and everything for their low profit.
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doktor83
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March 01, 2018, 01:06:10 PM |
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But I only mined Shield recently, so why to I see rewards in these other coins?
its a bug in yiimp, dont worry it will dissapear from your last earnings tab
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Ambros
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March 01, 2018, 01:17:46 PM |
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@Ambros, You are right. It's does not impact ETH performances at all. I use 6 x Nvidia 1070 and ETH hash is very stable with 32 Mh/s per card and -dcri is between 45 and 47 (about 3000 H/s b2s for all GPU). Power consumption is the same as it is for solo mining 800-810w/per hour measured from the wall. @doktor83, your pool steal shares as many others do. For 12h of mining on http://xvgminingclub.info I got more then double number of XVG than I got on your or antimine pool. Because their unannounced "maintenance" last night I have moved to new pool - https://premiumminer.com Hope this will be decent place otherwise I will quit dual mining because I don't want to be good sheep and give someone 30-50% of my earnings. I tought you got 100x more than on Oxo. Seriously man, you and all of you yelling that pools steal : you are not getting anything until a block is found on Yiimp pools. When will you finally learn that? If hashrate on the pool is low, (like 2.5THS on Oxo, that is pretty low compare to uniminings 150THS), then the pool will find less blocks. Depending on the number of shares you sent, you will get a portion of the found block. You take the number of coins per block - pool fee, and calculate your % you got for your shares and that is the reward you get. Yes i know you want more, you think you deserve the whole block reward, but hey, that's not how this stuff works. It's easier to just bark than to actually learn how this stuff works. So i won't be repeating myself anymore, there will always be new noobies just like you blaming everyone and everything for their low profit. I am a pool owner too (not a XVG one) and I know how difficult is to deal with people that do not understand what you are doing. I do not know about your pool, but I've seen some very interesting post from you in this forum and I strongly believe that you are not stealing from people. Good luck
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March 01, 2018, 01:26:54 PM |
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You take the number of coins per block - pool fee, and calculate your % you got for your shares and that is the reward you get. Yes i know you want more, you think you deserve the whole block reward, but hey, that's not how this stuff works.
It's easier to just bark than to actually learn how this stuff works.
So i won't be repeating myself anymore, there will always be new noobies just like you blaming everyone and everything for their low profit.
I won't repeat myself too but math is math and everyone can do his homework. Block reward for XVG is 1560. On your pool I usually had 2.75 shares per minute. On xvgminingclub I had 3.74 per minute and on premiumminer.com I have 7.75 per minute in last 4 hour. Here is the proof https://s13.postimg.org/zf6vlw5nr/premiummining_XVG.png
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doktor83
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March 01, 2018, 01:31:08 PM |
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@ambros Thanks Ambros We are doing our best, and that's what we get. Also the pool fee is 0.4%, that is maybe enough to pay transaction fee's when sending funds to miners. @emthemg ever heard of difficulty ? Let me answer that. No you did not.
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March 01, 2018, 01:34:02 PM |
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+1 on the share difficulty
The ONLY test that matters, is running three pools on three identical rigs AT THE SAME TIME for a long period (a few days to a week).
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March 01, 2018, 02:05:11 PM |
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+1 on the share difficulty
The ONLY test that matters, is running three pools on three identical rigs AT THE SAME TIME for a long period (a few days to a week).
Hats down sir! Run a 48h test, and let that decide which pool you choose.
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March 01, 2018, 02:24:16 PM |
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Off course, but didn't you mentioned hashrate power? - "If hashrate on the pool is low, then the pool will find less blocks." - but difficulty will be lower. Those are both sides of the same medal.
I will not argue with you any more. Everyone is free to choose pool for mining. With fair competition you will be forced to decrease your 'invisible' profit and I am sure you will done this quietly.
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March 01, 2018, 02:58:17 PM |
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Off course, but didn't you mentioned hashrate power? - "If hashrate on the pool is low, then the pool will find less blocks." - but difficulty will be lower. Those are both sides of the same medal.
I will not argue with you any more. Everyone is free to choose pool for mining. With fair competition you will be forced to decrease your 'invisible' profit and I am sure you will done this quietly.
I understand that not everyone can know everything, but better stop discussing about something that you have no knowledge of. Yes you think you got it all, but believe me you don't. We could argue here 2 more days, but that wouldn't take us nowhere So it's ok with me, you think every pools is stealing your hard earned coins. You have the right to choose your pool. You are right about everything. Is it ok now? Also i bet you never mined on Oxo, as you are just promoting that premiummining pool
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March 01, 2018, 03:57:05 PM |
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I just started doing b2s dual mining with every type of cards and I have to admit that is works like a charm. Does not impact ETH performances at all and also the power consumptions does not seem to be changed in a measurable way.
I am using -dcri 30. Does someone have different performances or has any advice?
use the "+" button to increase the intensity till you start seeing it affect Eth... then use the "-" to go back your -dcri should be about 35 - this is where you max out on blake 2s hash without affecting Eth Hash.. 30 is the default Good Luck and happy mining
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March 01, 2018, 04:00:34 PM |
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I don't agree. I see a slight decrease in ETH and a big increase in Blake2S when I keep increasing the -dcri to about 55.
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March 01, 2018, 04:11:24 PM |
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Also power usage is ~+25w per card.
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March 01, 2018, 04:27:29 PM |
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I don't agree. I see a slight decrease in ETH and a big increase in Blake2S when I keep increasing the -dcri to about 55.
Let me re-phrase - Running Claymore 11 dual mining Eth + Blake 2s with RX modded cards -dcri = 35 max - any higher and you WILL see Eth start to decrease... Ill run a side by side on my test box with a 560 4g vs 1050ti .. I know with -dcri 35 the TI blake2s output is very low while the rx560 is maxed out.. Just haven't really had time to play with it
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March 01, 2018, 08:40:44 PM |
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I'm not debating the facts, only your conclusion.
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March 01, 2018, 08:59:01 PM |
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ok
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March 01, 2018, 11:02:40 PM |
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NLPool is proving to be very stable and viable. Well done guys. Can’t wait for the exchange capability you discussed.
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March 02, 2018, 02:03:01 PM |
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Hello, I did not follow the topic a bit, where did you last good mining XVG pool now ??
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March 02, 2018, 02:39:57 PM |
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I don't agree. I see a slight decrease in ETH and a big increase in Blake2S when I keep increasing the -dcri to about 55.
Let me re-phrase - Running Claymore 11 dual mining Eth + Blake 2s with RX modded cards -dcri = 35 max - any higher and you WILL see Eth start to decrease... Ill run a side by side on my test box with a 560 4g vs 1050ti .. I know with -dcri 35 the TI blake2s output is very low while the rx560 is maxed out.. Just haven't really had time to play with it The dcri setting really depends on the card, even if they are the same model. I suggest you enable one card at a time and find the best dcri setting for each and set each one for optimum performance. For example, -dcri 45,45,35,55,38,25
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Looks like antminepool is down completely. Well, it is back again.
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March 03, 2018, 03:02:39 AM |
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I have a XVG Blake2s pool that I made specifically because I couldn't find a reliable pool dual mining pool for XVG. I will add as many servers as necessary to keep it stable - I'm completely serious. Give our pool a try - http://www.smashpool.com (stay for awhile so we can build up some miners) I have some hashpower I can point at it also.
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You take the number of coins per block - pool fee, and calculate your % you got for your shares and that is the reward you get. Yes i know you want more, you think you deserve the whole block reward, but hey, that's not how this stuff works.
It's easier to just bark than to actually learn how this stuff works.
So i won't be repeating myself anymore, there will always be new noobies just like you blaming everyone and everything for their low profit.
I won't repeat myself too but math is math and everyone can do his homework. Block reward for XVG is 1560. On your pool I usually had 2.75 shares per minute. On xvgminingclub I had 3.74 per minute and on premiumminer.com I have 7.75 per minute in last 4 hour. Here is the proof https://s13.postimg.org/zf6vlw5nr/premiummining_XVG.pngHi, Very interesting info, good job, I think this can help miners to understand diference between honest pools and pools that steal your coins. If you feel comfortable sharing this information, I really apreciate if you can post this info in another pages. It would be good for us if people know about this study you have done. Thread for Premium Miner Pool https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3048992.20Thanks for your support.
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March 03, 2018, 12:12:42 PM |
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You take the number of coins per block - pool fee, and calculate your % you got for your shares and that is the reward you get. Yes i know you want more, you think you deserve the whole block reward, but hey, that's not how this stuff works.
It's easier to just bark than to actually learn how this stuff works.
So i won't be repeating myself anymore, there will always be new noobies just like you blaming everyone and everything for their low profit.
I won't repeat myself too but math is math and everyone can do his homework. Block reward for XVG is 1560. On your pool I usually had 2.75 shares per minute. On xvgminingclub I had 3.74 per minute and on premiumminer.com I have 7.75 per minute in last 4 hour. Here is the proof Hi, Very interesting info, good job, I think this can help miners to understand diference between honest pools and pools that steal your coins. If you feel comfortable sharing this information, I really apreciate if you can post this info in another pages. It would be good for us if people know about this study you have done. Thread for Premium Miner Pool https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3048992.20Thanks for your support. lol, no man , what he wrote is totally wrong, it's not how this stuff works. I can set my pool diff 0.01 and you will get 300 shares/min, but that won't give you more earnings. Don' be stupid, and don't copy stupid peoples posts. Also you are probably the same person, again only advertising your pool So people reading this, i hope you can learn something new from this, except that premiumminer is the best pool
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March 03, 2018, 12:57:19 PM |
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You take the number of coins per block - pool fee, and calculate your % you got for your shares and that is the reward you get. Yes i know you want more, you think you deserve the whole block reward, but hey, that's not how this stuff works.
It's easier to just bark than to actually learn how this stuff works.
So i won't be repeating myself anymore, there will always be new noobies just like you blaming everyone and everything for their low profit.
I won't repeat myself too but math is math and everyone can do his homework. Block reward for XVG is 1560. On your pool I usually had 2.75 shares per minute. On xvgminingclub I had 3.74 per minute and on premiumminer.com I have 7.75 per minute in last 4 hour. Here is the proof https://s13.postimg.org/zf6vlw5nr/premiummining_XVG.pngHi, Very interesting info, good job, I think this can help miners to understand diference between honest pools and pools that steal your coins. If you feel comfortable sharing this information, I really apreciate if you can post this info in another pages. It would be good for us if people know about this study you have done. Thread for Premium Miner Pool https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3048992.20Thanks for your support. lol, no man , what he wrote is totally wrong, it's not how this stuff works. I can set my pool diff 0.01 and you will get 300 shares/min, but that won't give you more earnings. Don' be stupid, and don't copy stupid peoples posts. Also you are probably the same person, again only advertising your pool So people reading this, i hope you can learn something new from this, except that premiumminer is the best pool I'm sorry if it bothered you, it was not my intention, I just limited to posting information of the user who made the comparison, it is true that difficulty is something that has to be told, I have no problem in recognizing it. It's my fault. I don't think you should insult people, never, much less when you have set up a business in which you depend on them. Surely you just lost a miner forever. Maybe we can both learn something today.
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doktor83
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March 03, 2018, 02:08:17 PM |
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im not trying to run a business. The pool isn't making me money, i made a pool just for fun and practice and to help in decentralising some coins. You won't surely get rich with your 0% fee too. Nobody was insulted here, i just said, don't be stupid and listen & copy what stupid people say, like that guy showing off stupidity in every post. Good luck to you, and i hope you learn a lot of new things with your pool project.
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March 03, 2018, 09:16:40 PM |
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For those interested :
@NLpool we run multiple Blake2S coins now. The pool is very stable and running nice.
You can dual mine this coins with us:
- XVG Verge - Shield - Tajcoin - Nevacoin - Infocoin
For Keccak you can mine:
- Maxoin ( First blocks found ) - Creativecoin - Smartcash
And if you want optimal use of your RIG, then add a CPUminer and mine YenTen for extra coins! Yenten has also been added to our pool today.
If any questions join our Telegram channel @ t.me/nlpool or check our website nlpool.nl
Happy mining!
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March 03, 2018, 10:13:11 PM |
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It's pool overhead. The percentage is really small ( 0,007% ) so you don't have to worry about it. Later on we enable exchange, then the coins will exchange to the wallet you mine on..... Perhaps you get 1 extra XVG
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March 04, 2018, 12:17:13 AM |
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64.217% of the last found block, to be precise. 62.366% now, still feels a bit lonely
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March 04, 2018, 08:42:05 PM |
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For those interested :
@NLpool we run multiple Blake2S coins now. The pool is very stable and running nice.
You can dual mine this coins with us:
- XVG Verge - Shield - Tajcoin - Nevacoin - Infocoin
For Keccak you can mine:
- Maxoin ( First blocks found ) - Creativecoin - Smartcash
And if you want optimal use of your RIG, then add a CPUminer and mine YenTen for extra coins! Yenten has also been added to our pool today.
If any questions join our Telegram channel @ t.me/nlpool or check our website nlpool.nl
Happy mining!
im mining Verge and im getting everything but no XVG..... Samething wrong??
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March 04, 2018, 09:08:35 PM |
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For those interested :
@NLpool we run multiple Blake2S coins now. The pool is very stable and running nice.
You can dual mine this coins with us:
- XVG Verge - Shield - Tajcoin - Nevacoin - Infocoin
For Keccak you can mine:
- Maxoin ( First blocks found ) - Creativecoin - Smartcash
And if you want optimal use of your RIG, then add a CPUminer and mine YenTen for extra coins! Yenten has also been added to our pool today.
If any questions join our Telegram channel @ t.me/nlpool or check our website nlpool.nl
Happy mining!
im mining Verge and im getting everything but no XVG..... Samething wrong?? Please Join our Telegram channel ( t.me/nlpool ) and give your wallet address there, so we can check for you.
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March 04, 2018, 10:19:40 PM |
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Guys, where would I find the global hashing power of say verge vs shield?
My logic may be flawed but I see two coins at a very similar value, but the one pays a handful per block and the other 1.5k - hence I can only see the benefit of mining shield if there is no one mining it right? Or do I not understand something?
I mined shield for a few days on NLPool and got my 17 shield or whatever it was but I get a lot more verge so only assume that there is hashing power out there taking the shield but verge has enough to go around. Will double check there block times but they were similar the last time I checked.
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March 05, 2018, 09:57:42 AM |
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For those interested :
@NLpool we run multiple Blake2S coins now. The pool is very stable and running nice.
You can dual mine this coins with us:
- XVG Verge - Shield - Tajcoin - Nevacoin - Infocoin
For Keccak you can mine:
- Maxoin ( First blocks found ) - Creativecoin - Smartcash
And if you want optimal use of your RIG, then add a CPUminer and mine YenTen for extra coins! Yenten has also been added to our pool today.
If any questions join our Telegram channel @ t.me/nlpool or check our website nlpool.nl
Happy mining!
Hello, The fact is that your pool gives you the most. Admiration for which! Why are you hiding from Orphan blocks?
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March 05, 2018, 10:50:09 AM |
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For those interested :
@NLpool we run multiple Blake2S coins now. The pool is very stable and running nice.
You can dual mine this coins with us:
- XVG Verge - Shield - Tajcoin - Nevacoin - Infocoin
For Keccak you can mine:
- Maxoin ( First blocks found ) - Creativecoin - Smartcash
And if you want optimal use of your RIG, then add a CPUminer and mine YenTen for extra coins! Yenten has also been added to our pool today.
If any questions join our Telegram channel @ t.me/nlpool or check our website nlpool.nl
Happy mining!
Hello, The fact is that your pool gives you the most. Admiration for which! Why are you hiding from Orphan blocks? We are not. We got a load balanced setup, and the wallet daemons of Verge are giving us hell on earth last 24 hours because they constantly get out of sync. Normally wallets have options where you can predifine your peers you want to connect with, but this options looks broken or disabled with the Verge wallet. Reverting to an old version is not possible, since they hard-forked. It seems the Verge developpers are also not eager to get this problem fixed on short notice, so we are trying to figure this out on how we can improve latency on the Verge network. In the meantime i need to clean up the database from time to time, because now Orphans get double reported, or not reported .... etc. etc.
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March 05, 2018, 10:53:34 AM |
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People, if you are unhappy with Verge, mine something else. Don't blame the pool for all the problems encountered.
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March 07, 2018, 08:50:50 AM |
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For those interested :
@NLpool we run multiple Blake2S coins now. The pool is very stable and running nice.
You can dual mine this coins with us:
- XVG Verge - Shield - Tajcoin - Nevacoin - Infocoin
For Keccak you can mine:
- Maxoin ( First blocks found ) - Creativecoin - Smartcash
And if you want optimal use of your RIG, then add a CPUminer and mine YenTen for extra coins! Yenten has also been added to our pool today.
If any questions join our Telegram channel @ t.me/nlpool or check our website nlpool.nl
Happy mining!
mine_phun, your nlpool says that you are "short on this coin" in reference to Shield, Taj, and Neva. Does this mean that mining it a waste of time, or payouts will be less, or something else? Also I see some verge has been sent to exchange, does this mean stray coins will be paid once exchanged?
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March 07, 2018, 09:21:28 AM |
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For those interested :
@NLpool we run multiple Blake2S coins now. The pool is very stable and running nice.
You can dual mine this coins with us:
- XVG Verge - Shield - Tajcoin - Nevacoin - Infocoin
For Keccak you can mine:
- Maxoin ( First blocks found ) - Creativecoin - Smartcash
And if you want optimal use of your RIG, then add a CPUminer and mine YenTen for extra coins! Yenten has also been added to our pool today.
If any questions join our Telegram channel @ t.me/nlpool or check our website nlpool.nl
Happy mining!
mine_phun, your nlpool says that you are "short on this coin" in reference to Shield, Taj, and Neva. Does this mean that mining it a waste of time, or payouts will be less, or something else? Also I see some verge has been sent to exchange, does this mean stray coins will be paid once exchanged? Hi, indeed i noticed this also. Checking it seems that the exchange blocks withdraws until 9 march 11.57 AM , because i made API keys? @@@##### I will make a temp solution and put coins in the exchange wallet via another way soon, so the problems will be solved. XVG will not be exchanged, unless you mine with your bitcoin address., seems people are already using this opportunity.
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March 07, 2018, 09:32:24 AM |
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mine_phun, your nlpool says that you are "short on this coin" in reference to Shield, Taj, and Neva. Does this mean that mining it a waste of time, or payouts will be less, or something else?
Also I see some verge has been sent to exchange, does this mean stray coins will be paid once exchanged?
Hi, indeed i noticed this also. Checking it seems that the exchange blocks withdraws until 9 march 11.57 AM , because i made API keys? @@@##### I will make a temp solution and put coins in the exchange wallet via another way soon, so the problems will be solved. XVG will not be exchanged, unless you mine with your bitcoin address., seems people are already using this opportunity. If I mine xvg can I exchange for xsh or vice versa? What are the exchange options?
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March 07, 2018, 11:41:45 AM |
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Is NLpool becoming an auto-exchange pool? I'm supposed to mine XSH, but I see XVG shares, paid in XSH.
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March 07, 2018, 12:10:00 PM |
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Is NLpool becoming an auto-exchange pool? I'm supposed to mine XSH, but I see XVG shares, paid in XSH.
We have a small problem with some wallets. It will be fixed soon. When shied wallet goes offline we serve you xvg and convert it to xsh. So yes, the system works
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heavyarms1912
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March 07, 2018, 03:08:05 PM |
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anybody tried coinfoundry.org pool?
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March 07, 2018, 05:54:24 PM |
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Is NLpool becoming an auto-exchange pool? I'm supposed to mine XSH, but I see XVG shares, paid in XSH.
We have a small problem with some wallets. It will be fixed soon. When shied wallet goes offline we serve you xvg and convert it to xsh. So yes, the system works Still w8ing to see... yesterday and today i dont recive nothing like before.
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March 07, 2018, 08:57:06 PM |
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Is NLpool becoming an auto-exchange pool? I'm supposed to mine XSH, but I see XVG shares, paid in XSH.
We have a small problem with some wallets. It will be fixed soon. When shied wallet goes offline we serve you xvg and convert it to xsh. So yes, the system works Still w8ing to see... yesterday and today i dont recive nothing like before. Things should be fixed already. Can you join our Telegram please? ... We can help you there and check. > t.me/nlpool
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March 08, 2018, 09:12:41 AM |
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mine_phun, I am assuming there are still XSH issues at NLPOOL, I have 20 plus waiting to be paid and it has been growing all day.
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March 08, 2018, 09:32:33 AM |
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Is NLpool becoming an auto-exchange pool? I'm supposed to mine XSH, but I see XVG shares, paid in XSH.
We have a small problem with some wallets. It will be fixed soon. When shied wallet goes offline we serve you xvg and convert it to xsh. So yes, the system works Still w8ing to see... yesterday and today i dont recive nothing like before. Things should be fixed already. Can you join our Telegram please? ... We can help you there and check. > t.me/nlpool alredy done that and it dont solve nothing -.- u say it is converting the coins that we mine because... ... but i never see that converted. i just mine another coin and wait to have better news here from your pool. keep the good work and u will have a very nice pool.
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March 08, 2018, 09:32:57 AM |
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mine_phun, I am assuming there are still XSH issues at NLPOOL, I have 20 plus waiting to be paid and it has been growing all day.
I posted above. We don't have issues with the pool, we have issues with the exchange Yobit and Tradesatoshi itself. I made some API keys to get everything automated and have exchanging going. So far so good. However, the exchange blocked withdraw until tommorow 12.00 for security because i made those API keys... So Shield now is short of coins on the pool, because the exchange is still waiting. It should be solved tommorow afternoon, Amsterdam time. In the meantime i will try to solve to get some Shield exchanged and put it on the pool wallet. Sorry for the inconvience.
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March 08, 2018, 09:41:23 AM |
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mine_phun, I am assuming there are still XSH issues at NLPOOL, I have 20 plus waiting to be paid and it has been growing all day.
I posted above. We don't have issues with the pool, we have issues with the exchange Yobit and Tradesatoshi itself. I made some API keys to get everything automated and have exchanging going. So far so good. However, the exchange blocked withdraw until tommorow 12.00 for security because i made those API keys... So Shield now is short of coins on the pool, because the exchange is still waiting. It should be solved tommorow afternoon, Amsterdam time. In the meantime i will try to solve to get some Shield exchanged and put it on the pool wallet. Sorry for the inconvience. Thanks for the update.
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mine_phun, I am assuming there are still XSH issues at NLPOOL, I have 20 plus waiting to be paid and it has been growing all day.
I posted above. We don't have issues with the pool, we have issues with the exchange Yobit and Tradesatoshi itself. I made some API keys to get everything automated and have exchanging going. So far so good. However, the exchange blocked withdraw until tommorow 12.00 for security because i made those API keys... So Shield now is short of coins on the pool, because the exchange is still waiting. It should be solved tommorow afternoon, Amsterdam time. In the meantime i will try to solve to get some Shield exchanged and put it on the pool wallet. Sorry for the inconvience. Thanks for the update. All has been resolved and running fine since yesterday.
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March 10, 2018, 07:09:21 PM |
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mine_phun, I am assuming there are still XSH issues at NLPOOL, I have 20 plus waiting to be paid and it has been growing all day.
I posted above. We don't have issues with the pool, we have issues with the exchange Yobit and Tradesatoshi itself. I made some API keys to get everything automated and have exchanging going. So far so good. However, the exchange blocked withdraw until tommorow 12.00 for security because i made those API keys... So Shield now is short of coins on the pool, because the exchange is still waiting. It should be solved tommorow afternoon, Amsterdam time. In the meantime i will try to solve to get some Shield exchanged and put it on the pool wallet. Sorry for the inconvience. Thanks for the update. All has been resolved and running fine since yesterday. Looks stable now with the exchange function enabled, nice job!
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March 15, 2018, 01:49:39 PM Last edit: March 15, 2018, 02:45:36 PM by mine_phun |
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IMPORTANT UPDATE 15-3-2018: As from today we enabled mining with your Litecoin wallet for the Blake2S / Keccak and YescryptR16 coins. Just put in your Litecoin wallet address and use password x and select your algo to mine. The pool will pay you straight into your Litecoin (Coinbase/GDAX) wallet so you can convert straight to Eur/USD! ... this will save you a lot of time / effort and conversioncost!! Example: -o stratum+tcp://mine.nlpool.nl:5766 -dwal <LTC_WALLET_ADDRESS> -dpsw c=xvg -dcoin blake2s | To mine XVG only and get payed in LTC
NLPool is a Dutch miningpool running in Amsterdam the Netherlands. The pool has been setup to provide a good and stable pool for people who are located in the Netherlands or Benelux. Our pool is dedicated to have less latency meaning lower risks for stale shares. This means you will get higher profits. Our philosophy: - Performance - Profit by lowering latency and stale shares - Security - Minimum fees Our mining fee will be of 0% for all Blake2S algo coins until April 1st. After the launch period, it will be fixed between 0.5% and 1% How to contact us ? E-mail: nlpool.nl@outlook.comTelegram: : t.me/nlpool Key features: - Amsterdam dedicated server with DDos Protection - Small mining fee : 0% during the 2 months launch period. After, between 0,5% and 1% - Anonymous and no registration ! - Hourly payments - yiimp multi-algo with several coins - Everything is tested on a second non-productive server before launching to minimize your risks on the actual mining pool. (new stratum, webpages changes, payments and other code updates)
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