[PRE-SALE][ICO] Petro $PTR - Oil backed crypto currency launched by Venezuela

[coinve]

Tell me when the pre sale was officially concluded and when the public sale started ? Nobody knows dummy...

pre sale: from February 20 to March 22.
it was extended a few days more.

public sale: from March 23 to April 20.
15 weekdays excluding the holy week and holidays.
they don't work weekends, so don't expect any transaction until April 23.
public sale can be extended a few days more.

[taseenb]

Tell me when the pre sale was officially concluded and when the public sale started ? Nobody knows dummy...

Everybody knows when pre-sale and ICO started. Brain dead people without patience shouldn't participate in ICOs and crypto as they keep blaming everybody else for their stress and idiocy. Unbearable.

[cryptoviagra]

Lol you are stupid my friend but it's alright let me educate you on the Petro since I bought in earlier than you obviously, I sent my documents the 23 rd of February to be eligible for the pre sale, I never received a response until the public sale started the 23rd of March which indicate that no pre sale took place or maybe not available to regular people (politicians, and the government friends), today we are the 22 nd of April so for me it's been 28 days that I made the first payment , I repeat the government of Venezuela don't follow no damn whitepaper and yes it shows who we are dealing with, but that does not mean that I don't believe that we will receive our Petro, Taseenb I'm clever and well informed stop being mad idiot and keep begging on Twitter so we can receive our Petros asap...it's all love tho...I hope the Petro will RISE!!!

[aviven]

Why don't we talk about Venezuela's and Syria's "internal" problems; petroleum; President Maduro emitting the Petro and President Trump condemning it? Why do Venezuela and the Petro have so many detractors?  Is there a connection between these topics?

Just a little connection...

As far as I can see, there is a strong bond between El Petro and NEM, whereas it seems quite logical to assume that NEM is connected directly to Kremlin. Have you heard about the fact that NEM’s authorities went for sauna in Moscow accompanied by Russian officials? In this case resignation of NEM’s executives might be the consequence of them being tied up with Maduro and Putin’s regimes.

[aviven]

Dude you are always getting mad when I talk about your beloved government, you are the one who is pathetic you can never recognize when the Maduro government is wrong, they never respected the whitepaper so just stop it, I know you read me all the time and you see that I am most of the time well informed let me add I am even better informed than you are , I invested in Petro because I believed the government was serious about the Petro, I can confirm that they are not it's just a trial to them...Instead of insulting people come with facts and if you have valuable infos defending my accusations expose them, you are such a kiss ass when it comes to Venezuela government...

Tell me when the pre sale was officially concluded and when the public sale started ? Nobody knows dummy...


Basic conditions
Pre - Sell
Initial Offer
INITIAL OFFER OF THE CRYPTOASSET
Total emission: 100.000.000
Tokens available: 38.400.000
Reference Selling Price: USD 6026,27
Start date and time: February 20, 2018 at 08:30 a.m. (Venezuela time, -04:00 GMT).
Closure date and time: March 19, 2018 at 23:59:59 p.m. (Venezuela time, -04:00 GMT).
Total Petro available for sale: 44,000,000
Reference Selling Price: USD 60*
Start date and time: March 20, 2018 at 08:30 a.m. (Venezuela time, -04:00 GMT)
Closure date and time: Until the Petros of the first emission are exhausted

That opacity in government’s action might be due to the fact that real numbers differ dramatically from the official forecast, and when it comes out, it might have a bad influence on Venezuelan presidential Election in May.

[apelopus]

Why don't we talk about Venezuela's and Syria's "internal" problems; petroleum; President Maduro emitting the Petro and President Trump condemning it? Why do Venezuela and the Petro have so many detractors?  Is there a connection between these topics?

Just a little connection...

As far as I can see, there is a strong bond between El Petro and NEM, whereas it seems quite logical to assume that NEM is connected directly to Kremlin. Have you heard about the fact that NEM’s authorities went for sauna in Moscow accompanied by Russian officials? In this case resignation of NEM’s executives might be the consequence of them being tied up with Maduro and Putin’s regimes.

Maybe they went for sauna in Caracas, too. NEM's representative in Venezuela during the NEM global tour was a Russian guy Misha Granin. Check out his insta https://www.instagram.com/p/BegoeFugCZ_/
" Venezuela makes sure that you smile". Well, I hope Venezuelans smile at a pathetic attempt of their government to fraud them with all the El Petro bullshit

[aviven]

Why don't we talk about Venezuela's and Syria's "internal" problems; petroleum; President Maduro emitting the Petro and President Trump condemning it? Why do Venezuela and the Petro have so many detractors?  Is there a connection between these topics?

Just a little connection...

As far as I can see, there is a strong bond between El Petro and NEM, whereas it seems quite logical to assume that NEM is connected directly to Kremlin. Have you heard about the fact that NEM’s authorities went for sauna in Moscow accompanied by Russian officials? In this case resignation of NEM’s executives might be the consequence of them being tied up with Maduro and Putin’s regimes.

Maybe they went for sauna in Caracas, too. NEM's representative in Venezuela during the NEM global tour was a Russian guy Misha Granin. Check out his insta https://www.instagram.com/p/BegoeFugCZ_/
" Venezuela makes sure that you smile". Well, I hope Venezuelans smile at a pathetic attempt of their government to fraud them with all the El Petro bullshit

Well, actually, they don’t. Venezuelans either condemn that crypto or support it, just like their current president. Too bad some people don’t connect the dots

[apelopus]

I didn't mean to offend those who've already invested in El Petro, but come on. One might assume that a Cryptocurrency backed by resources such as oil will have a more stable price and lesses volatility, HOWEVER, there're many implications. With such a heavily indebted oil industry, which is, frankly speaking, on the verge of collapse, what oil products can petros be exchanged for? What kind of real backing they have?
The concept of El Petro is not bad, but it's by no means a solution, it's a mere splurge

[apelopus]

Why don't we talk about Venezuela's and Syria's "internal" problems; petroleum; President Maduro emitting the Petro and President Trump condemning it? Why do Venezuela and the Petro have so many detractors?  Is there a connection between these topics?

Just a little connection...

As far as I can see, there is a strong bond between El Petro and NEM, whereas it seems quite logical to assume that NEM is connected directly to Kremlin. Have you heard about the fact that NEM’s authorities went for sauna in Moscow accompanied by Russian officials? In this case resignation of NEM’s executives might be the consequence of them being tied up with Maduro and Putin’s regimes.

Maybe they went for sauna in Caracas, too. NEM's representative in Venezuela during the NEM global tour was a Russian guy Misha Granin. Check out his insta https://www.instagram.com/p/BegoeFugCZ_/
" Venezuela makes sure that you smile". Well, I hope Venezuelans smile at a pathetic attempt of their government to fraud them with all the El Petro bullshit

Well, actually, they don’t. Venezuelans either condemn that crypto or support it, just like their current president. Too bad some people don’t connect the dots

Luckily, Maduro's regime resulted in that most people can't even afford being frauded))))

[aviven]

Why don't we talk about Venezuela's and Syria's "internal" problems; petroleum; President Maduro emitting the Petro and President Trump condemning it? Why do Venezuela and the Petro have so many detractors?  Is there a connection between these topics?

Just a little connection...

As far as I can see, there is a strong bond between El Petro and NEM, whereas it seems quite logical to assume that NEM is connected directly to Kremlin. Have you heard about the fact that NEM’s authorities went for sauna in Moscow accompanied by Russian officials? In this case resignation of NEM’s executives might be the consequence of them being tied up with Maduro and Putin’s regimes.

Maybe they went for sauna in Caracas, too. NEM's representative in Venezuela during the NEM global tour was a Russian guy Misha Granin. Check out his insta https://www.instagram.com/p/BegoeFugCZ_/
" Venezuela makes sure that you smile". Well, I hope Venezuelans smile at a pathetic attempt of their government to fraud them with all the El Petro bullshit

Well, actually, they don’t. Venezuelans either condemn that crypto or support it, just like their current president. Too bad some people don’t connect the dots

Luckily, Maduro's regime resulted in that most people can't even afford being frauded))))

And it’s all thanks to the supporters of El Petro, they are so dumb that just cannot stop funding his rogue and corrupted government. Really, it’s hilarious how Maduro says that El Petro got 5 billion dollars in first week, without even telling a word about investors. And this crypto is also based on NEM blockchain that’s been hacked and absolute shit

[apelopus]

Spotted this article calling out some basic mistake on amount raised.   Anyone else seen the $5bn claim stated ?

According to the whitepaper on the official site of the initiative,  exactly 38,400,000 tokens were on offer worth $ 60 each token (not counting the discount of 60% announced by the government during this phase). Crunching the numbers,  the maximum the government could raise would be $ 2.304 billion, not counting the discount. If Maduro tells the truth in his announcement, he does not tell the truth in the official document of the project and in all previous announcements made by the president himself. After all, according to a new statement released,  all tokens were sold at 46% off the officially amount announced (not counting the discounts).

https://www.ccn.com/venezuelas-president-false-information-petro/


Also interesting is the alleged link between Russia and Venezuela which this Petro to be used as a trade between the two.  In a way thats bullish because it gives a large backer and future user, though Russia has plenty oil of its own where as China does not.

Yup, but China is now withdrawing its cash from Venezuela and have already curtailed credit to Venezuela due to recurrent payment delays, while Russia is just seeking friendship with yet another dictator. Russia is expanding operations with Venezuela and cretid lines. In fact, Russia eagerly supports El Petro as it is a means of testing new financial instruments for money laundering schemes. Crimean Cryptocurrency or whatever Russian rakib is working on is gonna be El Petro's little brother lol

[jgaltt]

Spotted this article calling out some basic mistake on amount raised.   Anyone else seen the $5bn claim stated ?

According to the whitepaper on the official site of the initiative,  exactly 38,400,000 tokens were on offer worth $ 60 each token (not counting the discount of 60% announced by the government during this phase). Crunching the numbers,  the maximum the government could raise would be $ 2.304 billion, not counting the discount. If Maduro tells the truth in his announcement, he does not tell the truth in the official document of the project and in all previous announcements made by the president himself. After all, according to a new statement released,  all tokens were sold at 46% off the officially amount announced (not counting the discounts).

https://www.ccn.com/venezuelas-president-false-information-petro/


Also interesting is the alleged link between Russia and Venezuela which this Petro to be used as a trade between the two.  In a way thats bullish because it gives a large backer and future user, though Russia has plenty oil of its own where as China does not.

Yup, but China is now withdrawing its cash from Venezuela and have already curtailed credit to Venezuela due to recurrent payment delays, while Russia is just seeking friendship with yet another dictator. Russia is expanding operations with Venezuela and cretid lines. In fact, Russia eagerly supports El Petro as it is a means of testing new financial instruments for money laundering schemes. Crimean Cryptocurrency or whatever Russian rakib is working on is gonna be El Petro's little brother lol

Well, there are some shadowy figures around El Petro, and of course Russian businessmen who are most likely to be unofficial representatives of Russian government, like Michael Granin from Cheboksari or whatever city it is

[kriptokraker]

Why don't we talk about Venezuela's and Syria's "internal" problems; petroleum; President Maduro emitting the Petro and President Trump condemning it? Why do Venezuela and the Petro have so many detractors?  Is there a connection between these topics?

Just a little connection...

As far as I can see, there is a strong bond between El Petro and NEM, whereas it seems quite logical to assume that NEM is connected directly to Kremlin. Have you heard about the fact that NEM’s authorities went for sauna in Moscow accompanied by Russian officials? In this case resignation of NEM’s executives might be the consequence of them being tied up with Maduro and Putin’s regimes.

Maybe they went for sauna in Caracas, too. NEM's representative in Venezuela during the NEM global tour was a Russian guy Misha Granin. Check out his insta https://www.instagram.com/p/BegoeFugCZ_/
" Venezuela makes sure that you smile". Well, I hope Venezuelans smile at a pathetic attempt of their government to fraud them with all the El Petro bullshit

Well, actually, they don’t. Venezuelans either condemn that crypto or support it, just like their current president. Too bad some people don’t connect the dots

Luckily, Maduro's regime resulted in that most people can't even afford being frauded))))

And it’s all thanks to the supporters of El Petro, they are so dumb that just cannot stop funding his rogue and corrupted government. Really, it’s hilarious how Maduro says that El Petro got 5 billion dollars in first week, without even telling a word about investors. And this crypto is also based on NEM blockchain that’s been hacked and absolute shit

Based on Nem? U serious? No person or no government even as desperate and ignorant as Maduro's would base it's crypto on Nem shitchain. Nem is pure market failure. They say that Cryptocurrency is safe and all transactions is transparent but not Nem. I mean, what other block chain stores it's funds in "hot wallets"? No business wants to collaborate with them or be associated in any way possible.

[jgaltt]

Why don't we talk about Venezuela's and Syria's "internal" problems; petroleum; President Maduro emitting the Petro and President Trump condemning it? Why do Venezuela and the Petro have so many detractors?  Is there a connection between these topics?

Just a little connection...

As far as I can see, there is a strong bond between El Petro and NEM, whereas it seems quite logical to assume that NEM is connected directly to Kremlin. Have you heard about the fact that NEM’s authorities went for sauna in Moscow accompanied by Russian officials? In this case resignation of NEM’s executives might be the consequence of them being tied up with Maduro and Putin’s regimes.

Maybe they went for sauna in Caracas, too. NEM's representative in Venezuela during the NEM global tour was a Russian guy Misha Granin. Check out his insta https://www.instagram.com/p/BegoeFugCZ_/
" Venezuela makes sure that you smile". Well, I hope Venezuelans smile at a pathetic attempt of their government to fraud them with all the El Petro bullshit

Well, actually, they don’t. Venezuelans either condemn that crypto or support it, just like their current president. Too bad some people don’t connect the dots

Luckily, Maduro's regime resulted in that most people can't even afford being frauded))))

And it’s all thanks to the supporters of El Petro, they are so dumb that just cannot stop funding his rogue and corrupted government. Really, it’s hilarious how Maduro says that El Petro got 5 billion dollars in first week, without even telling a word about investors. And this crypto is also based on NEM blockchain that’s been hacked and absolute shit

Based on Nem? U serious? No person or no government even as desperate and ignorant as Maduro's would base it's crypto on Nem shitchain. Nem is pure market failure. They say that Cryptocurrency is safe and all transactions is transparent but not Nem. I mean, what other block chain stores it's funds in "hot wallets"? No business wants to collaborate with them or be associated in any way possible.

Here’s what I’ve found on CoinDesk: “Aero Trading won a contract from the Venezuelan government to build the petro on the NEM blockchain and market the token internationally. Aero Trading is based in Uruguay and run by a Russian businessman who, according to his biography website, represents companies from Russia and other former Soviet Union countries doing business in Latin America.Aero's website has nothing more than a facing page and its Twitter account as of March 23 had only three tweets which it posted right after the petro pre-sale began. At the start of the pre-sale”

[kriptokraker]

Spotted this article calling out some basic mistake on amount raised.   Anyone else seen the $5bn claim stated ?

According to the whitepaper on the official site of the initiative,  exactly 38,400,000 tokens were on offer worth $ 60 each token (not counting the discount of 60% announced by the government during this phase). Crunching the numbers,  the maximum the government could raise would be $ 2.304 billion, not counting the discount. If Maduro tells the truth in his announcement, he does not tell the truth in the official document of the project and in all previous announcements made by the president himself. After all, according to a new statement released,  all tokens were sold at 46% off the officially amount announced (not counting the discounts).

https://www.ccn.com/venezuelas-president-false-information-petro/


Also interesting is the alleged link between Russia and Venezuela which this Petro to be used as a trade between the two.  In a way thats bullish because it gives a large backer and future user, though Russia has plenty oil of its own where as China does not.

Yup, but China is now withdrawing its cash from Venezuela and have already curtailed credit to Venezuela due to recurrent payment delays, while Russia is just seeking friendship with yet another dictator. Russia is expanding operations with Venezuela and cretid lines. In fact, Russia eagerly supports El Petro as it is a means of testing new financial instruments for money laundering schemes. Crimean Cryptocurrency or whatever Russian rakib is working on is gonna be El Petro's little brother lol

Well, there are some shadowy figures around El Petro, and of course Russian businessmen who are most likely to be unofficial representatives of Russian government, like Michael Granin from Cheboksari or whatever city it is

Cheboksari... Sounds like Japanese bad words jokes apart, I heard that this guy was Nem representative, so is than NEM some kinda Kremlin affiliated organization or what?

[kriptokraker]

Why don't we talk about Venezuela's and Syria's "internal" problems; petroleum; President Maduro emitting the Petro and President Trump condemning it? Why do Venezuela and the Petro have so many detractors?  Is there a connection between these topics?

Just a little connection...

As far as I can see, there is a strong bond between El Petro and NEM, whereas it seems quite logical to assume that NEM is connected directly to Kremlin. Have you heard about the fact that NEM’s authorities went for sauna in Moscow accompanied by Russian officials? In this case resignation of NEM’s executives might be the consequence of them being tied up with Maduro and Putin’s regimes.

Maybe they went for sauna in Caracas, too. NEM's representative in Venezuela during the NEM global tour was a Russian guy Misha Granin. Check out his insta https://www.instagram.com/p/BegoeFugCZ_/
" Venezuela makes sure that you smile". Well, I hope Venezuelans smile at a pathetic attempt of their government to fraud them with all the El Petro bullshit

Well, actually, they don’t. Venezuelans either condemn that crypto or support it, just like their current president. Too bad some people don’t connect the dots

Luckily, Maduro's regime resulted in that most people can't even afford being frauded))))

And it’s all thanks to the supporters of El Petro, they are so dumb that just cannot stop funding his rogue and corrupted government. Really, it’s hilarious how Maduro says that El Petro got 5 billion dollars in first week, without even telling a word about investors. And this crypto is also based on NEM blockchain that’s been hacked and absolute shit

Based on Nem? U serious? No person or no government even as desperate and ignorant as Maduro's would base it's crypto on Nem shitchain. Nem is pure market failure. They say that Cryptocurrency is safe and all transactions is transparent but not Nem. I mean, what other block chain stores it's funds in "hot wallets"? No business wants to collaborate with them or be associated in any way possible.

Here’s what I’ve found on CoinDesk: “Aero Trading won a contract from the Venezuelan government to build the petro on the NEM blockchain and market the token internationally. Aero Trading is based in Uruguay and run by a Russian businessman who, according to his biography website, represents companies from Russia and other former Soviet Union countries doing business in Latin America.Aero's website has nothing more than a facing page and its Twitter account as of March 23 had only three tweets which it posted right after the petro pre-sale began. At the start of the pre-sale”

I read that it was based on ethereum but it doesn't change fact that it is fake crypto

[jgaltt]

Spotted this article calling out some basic mistake on amount raised.   Anyone else seen the $5bn claim stated ?

According to the whitepaper on the official site of the initiative,  exactly 38,400,000 tokens were on offer worth $ 60 each token (not counting the discount of 60% announced by the government during this phase). Crunching the numbers,  the maximum the government could raise would be $ 2.304 billion, not counting the discount. If Maduro tells the truth in his announcement, he does not tell the truth in the official document of the project and in all previous announcements made by the president himself. After all, according to a new statement released,  all tokens were sold at 46% off the officially amount announced (not counting the discounts).

https://www.ccn.com/venezuelas-president-false-information-petro/


Also interesting is the alleged link between Russia and Venezuela which this Petro to be used as a trade between the two.  In a way thats bullish because it gives a large backer and future user, though Russia has plenty oil of its own where as China does not.

Yup, but China is now withdrawing its cash from Venezuela and have already curtailed credit to Venezuela due to recurrent payment delays, while Russia is just seeking friendship with yet another dictator. Russia is expanding operations with Venezuela and cretid lines. In fact, Russia eagerly supports El Petro as it is a means of testing new financial instruments for money laundering schemes. Crimean Cryptocurrency or whatever Russian rakib is working on is gonna be El Petro's little brother lol

Well, there are some shadowy figures around El Petro, and of course Russian businessmen who are most likely to be unofficial representatives of Russian government, like Michael Granin from Cheboksari or whatever city it is

Cheboksari... Sounds like Japanese bad words jokes apart, I heard that this guy was Nem representative, so is than NEM some kinda Kremlin affiliated organization or what?

I guess so, just like Crimean RACIB. Heard that Putin’s assistant is some kind of chief executive of this organization.

[cryptoviagra]

Dude you are always getting mad when I talk about your beloved government, you are the one who is pathetic you can never recognize when the Maduro government is wrong, they never respected the whitepaper so just stop it, I know you read me all the time and you see that I am most of the time well informed let me add I am even better informed than you are , I invested in Petro because I believed the government was serious about the Petro, I can confirm that they are not it's just a trial to them...Instead of insulting people come with facts and if you have valuable infos defending my accusations expose them, you are such a kiss ass when it comes to Venezuela government...

Tell me when the pre sale was officially concluded and when the public sale started ? Nobody knows dummy...


Basic conditions
Pre - Sell
Initial Offer
INITIAL OFFER OF THE CRYPTOASSET
Total emission: 100.000.000
Tokens available: 38.400.000
Reference Selling Price: USD 6026,27
Start date and time: February 20, 2018 at 08:30 a.m. (Venezuela time, -04:00 GMT).
Closure date and time: March 19, 2018 at 23:59:59 p.m. (Venezuela time, -04:00 GMT).
Total Petro available for sale: 44,000,000
Reference Selling Price: USD 60*
Start date and time: March 20, 2018 at 08:30 a.m. (Venezuela time, -04:00 GMT)
Closure date and time: Until the Petros of the first emission are exhausted

That opacity in government’s action might be due to the fact that real numbers differ dramatically from the official forecast, and when it comes out, it might have a bad influence on Venezuelan presidential Election in May.

I believe it's exactly that....

[coinve]

flooding the thread with nonsense and russophobia.
thanks mister multiple accounts.

[cryptoviagra]

What is nonsence is the whitepaper mate, tell the super government of Venezuela to stop lying and deliver the Petros that we paid for...