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February 28, 2018, 01:30:31 AM
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And you tested 10000$ worth script using...faucet...and recommend it. Roll Eyes
I profited in the 10 minutes I had it running. What else would you prefer that I say?

How about the fact that it was only tested for 10 minutes, you only gave it one try. You also seem familar with the gambler's fallacy, something you'd know would disprove her/his theory.

Your chance of winning does not increase at all when you hit a red streak of something. Instead it stays the same.

So based on that your method is already not working.

This is the famous gambler's fallacy. Gamblers tend to think that they are able to beat the house because after each loss their chance of winning rises. But that is mathematically not true because each event is independent of what happened before that.



I have made it abundantly clear that the odds are ALWAYS in favour of the casino. Check my thread.

No. You claim that you are consistently able to with 10% ROI, or more. You do not mention any loss, but you do mention that "you cannot go wrong with it". The only "golden" scripts imo are the positive EV ones that worked on bustabit v1, and whatever clones of the site exist now. Even +EV scripts can and will lose, such as EDGE_NXTAE, which was a +EV script. It at one point was down 2 BTC, despite playing +EV and had no promises of guaranteed 10% ROI.

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February 28, 2018, 01:32:32 AM
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I have been lurking quietly whilst waiting to see if Alia would send me a PM.  I expressed my such intents to several people, including theymos.

This has not occurred; and I can no longer sit this out when issues are being deliberately confused by certain persons.  OP is a liar, and I have first-hand knowledge that #1887512 “scam_detector” is maliciously stating false and incorrect information:

From here I would like to warn against aTriz and nullius.

nullius write as much as you like, but I can remember a post in which he wrote that he met alia in person (I'll look for this post, but maybe someone could help me.). Suddenly he writes that he has never had contact with her except in the forum. Therefore, please be warned and question his actions especially!

It was clear to me from the first that this thread was a troll attack on me and on certain persons associated with me.  I gave it zero credibility until RGBKey, Joel_Jantsen, and ibminer put me on alert.  Whether a troll got lucky, or something else is going on here, I do not know.

I have more to say about new developments since my last post.  Will do.  Immediately, I must make a few things clear for the record:

  • I am a pseudonymous user.  I connect to this forum through Tor; and I am quite careful about my identity.  Nobody on this forum (except me) has any idea whatsoever of my age, the continent on which I am physically situate, etc.  To suggest that I publicly discussed meeting another user IRL is preposterous.  If you wish to call me a liar:  Put up or shut up.  Cough up a link to the post.
  • The attacks on aTriz’s signature campaign contract are clearly spurious.  aTriz saw a rising-star user account, made a business decision, and locked in a contract.  I don’t see what’s so difficult to understand about that.  I also don’t see any evidence that it occurred otherwise.
  • I see that Alia immediately latched onto (at least) three points which I stated in my prior posts:  Care in determining innocence versus guilt, avoidance of a lynch mob (as to which I had linked a djb essay), and my off-the-cuff “little brother” hypothesis.  This would occur either in case of total innocence (and some astonishing coincidences), or total guilt.  theymos has suggested what I believe to be adequate means for the person controlling account #1764044 to adequately demonstrate that an Alia exists, is a 19-year-old girl, and has a 15-year-old brother.  In the absence of that demonstration being made, I will book bets0 on 1000000:1 odds that the IP evidence is conclusive.  Stranger things have happened, but—oh so very rarely.  Curiously enough, an innocent person would also understand how bad this looks.

For one thing I take responsibility:  I quite deliberately did what I could to bring another account instant fame and a rather high-level circle of admirers.  My first, last, and only concern is the truth here.  It is clear to me that somebody is opportunistically mud-slinging with lies and distorted half-truths amidst a very serious investigation.  That is distracting from the focus on aforestated first, last, and only concern.

Note:  I do not here reach the issues about the gambling script because frankly, I do not understand enough gambling.  Having interacted with RGBKey in Dev & Tech, I trust his technical correctness, and will defer to that.

(I will make a follow-up post with some interesting questions...)



P.S., quick question:  Alia, you have repeatedly said “scam_detector” = “mdayonliner”.  Why?  On what evidence?


0. For the record, this is a rhetorical flourish amidst all the gambling discussion.  I am not actually booking bets on this.

OP is a liar. I am at college and can respond only tersely, but during a break I'll add some more.

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February 28, 2018, 01:38:15 AM
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Whether a troll got lucky, or something else is going on here, I do not know.

I do not care what you think about me, if I was just lucky or anything else is going on Roll Eyes. I do not trust you for the same reasons why I do not trust aTriz!

P.S., quick question:  Alia, you have repeatedly said “scam_detector” = “mdayonliner”.  Why?  On what evidence?

As I have already said. It is nobody who has ever contacted you all in any wise! Instead of making me a culprit, you should rather worry about other things. But it was clear that will be distracted from the actual topic again.

It was clear to me from the first that this thread was a troll attack on me and on certain persons associated with me.  I gave it zero credibility until RGBKey, Joel_Jantsen, and ibminer put me on alert.  Whether a troll got lucky, or something else is going on here, I do not know.

Yes of course. It's always about you all. My God, what do you all really think you are?  Roll Eyes
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February 28, 2018, 01:44:41 AM
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OP is a liar. I am at college and can respond only tersely, but during a break I'll add some more.

I know that OP is a liar.  I know that, because I have first-hand knowledge that I have never met you and never claimed to.

My questions are about you.

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February 28, 2018, 01:47:05 AM
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P.S., quick question:  Alia, you have repeatedly said “scam_detector” = “mdayonliner”.  Why?  On what evidence?

As I have already said. It is nobody who has ever contacted you all in any wise! Instead of making me a culprit, you should rather worry about other things. But it was clear that will be distracted from the actual topic again.

It is you who is distracting from the actual topic.  You are dispoiling a scam investigation, not performing one.

Put up or shut up:

From here I would like to warn against aTriz and nullius.

nullius write as much as you like, but I can remember a post in which he wrote that he met alia in person (I'll look for this post, but maybe someone could help me.). Suddenly he writes that he has never had contact with her except in the forum. Therefore, please be warned and question his actions especially!


It was clear to me from the first that this thread was a troll attack on me and on certain persons associated with me.  I gave it zero credibility until RGBKey, Joel_Jantsen, and ibminer put me on alert.  Whether a troll got lucky, or something else is going on here, I do not know.

Yes of course. It's always about you all. My God, what do you all really think you are?  Roll Eyes

Yes, it’s (in large part) about me.  My original instinct in that regard is borne out by the evidence of you telling bald-faced lies about me.

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February 28, 2018, 01:51:55 AM
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OP is a liar. I am at college and can respond only tersely, but during a break I'll add some more.

I know that OP is a liar.  I know that, because I have first-hand knowledge that I have never met you.

My questions are about you.

I'm looking for the post. If you did not delete it, I will find it. And no, this thread was not targeted at you, nor at Lauda or anyone else. But alone on alia and aTriz (He is responsible for his actions (mainly through the gambling thread) himself!). The reasons you can find in this thread.

Edit: I ask you therefore not to edit any old post of you.
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February 28, 2018, 02:00:23 AM
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OP is a liar. I am at college and can respond only tersely, but during a break I'll add some more.

I know that OP is a liar.  I know that, because I have first-hand knowledge that I have never met you.

My questions are about you.

I'm looking for the post. If you did not delete it, I will find it. And no, this thread was not targeted at you, nor at Lauda or anyone else. But alone on alia and aTriz (He is responsible for his actions (mainly through the gambling thread) himself!). The reasons you can find in this thread.

Edit: I ask you therefore not to edit an old post of you.

I see where this is going:  After you “look” for awhile, you will accuse me of editing or deleting this mysterious post.  Am I right?

(Funny, it is, how a purported “scam_detector” who evidently upthread knows how to use archive services purports to have found such a damning post, yet did not take an immediate snapshot and keep it handy...)



Edit:  I myself have been uncharacteristically slack with archives here.  Snapshot right after posting the above:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180228020133/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3032057.0;all

I will start doing these semi-regularly.  Everybody, please do not make unmarked substantive edits to your posts here.  Thanks.

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This is just further proof that you're a crazed kid who can call anyone a scammer. nullius did only have first contact with me through the forum. aTriz is a reputable and upstanding member of the forum. Just go home, the adults are talking.

I'd rather be a kid than a scammer! I will use this account to expose more scammers, like I (a kid  Roll Eyes) did it with you!

Possibly valid case in OP? Check.
Lie in your posts? Check.
Use it to dishonestly attack Lauda and aTriz? Check.

* Lauda yawns at OP.

I'm 100% down for that. I would prefer nullius, condoras, aTriz, RHavar, theymos, Lauda - any of them. Let's put an end to the speculation, let me prove it to you.
Thanks, but no. I do not do video calls for several reasons. I'm really not sure who is *trustworthy* enough and is willing to do this. I've crossed out the people who should not do this or do not want to (me).

This arrogant way just shows me that I can not trust you. Before you praised alia in the sky and now you pretend that you do not know her. Just admit that you fell for her. But no, you always want to be right and this very property makes you unpredictable. Unpredictable and always want to be right, should not be properties that a DT member should have!

In my following of this saga, it seems that Ibminer, or maybe someone who Ibminer nominates would be good for the interviewing job...

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February 28, 2018, 02:12:20 AM
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nullius is lauda. That is very clear. Anyone who does not see this is simply closing their eyes.
Given the advanced cryptography knowledge (among other things) shown by nullius, I take this as a compliment. I assume that you have proof for this accusation?  Smiley

Did you have a cat named Alia and did you grow up on Armelle street? I'm sure this is the missing link.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2837197.msg29420977#msg29420977  Cheesy

Well, proves my point even worse than I expected:  Mr. Nasty will go pick on a woman, because he’s too much of a snivelling poltroon to take a shot at me.  Disgusting.

This is the level of impotent prick who gets the tar beaten out of him by a strip club bouncer after trying to stiff one of the ladies—for either plausible definition of the word “stiff”.

Given that sort of character, it’s no wonder that women must dislike him so much that he feels an urgent need to go around posturing with the stink of desperation to pretend he’s a Real Man.  Protip:  Real Men never do that—except when they’re mocking and quasi-satirizing a wannabe such as Mr. Nasty.

For those who don’t know who Alia is, she’s a 19-year-old camgirl (/u/GirlsGoneBitcoin verified by theymos) who so happens to like me.  (Or per my trust page...)  My first-ever contact with her occured just yesterday, in public.  She has no direct involvement in this matter.  For Mr. Nasty to take a shot at her in lieu of me is the single most contemptible thing I’ve seen today in a thread which is a creepy horror-show of contemptible things.  Though I’d still call him Quickseller’s soul-brother, I’m no longer sure which of them is worse.

Maybe I misunderstood it, but honestly I did not feel like reading the linked thread and I assumed that you really met her. Since I have no time and no desire to read through the linked thread, I now assume that you did not mean it. If that is the case, I apologize!

As I have said many times. I am only concerned with the two persons mentioned in the OP!

(Funny, it is, how a purported “scam_detector” who evidently upthread knows how to use archive services purports to have found such a damning post, yet did not take an immediate snapshot and keep it handy...)

I have not read your post about your contact with her today, so I wanted to search this post later and archive it.
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February 28, 2018, 02:16:22 AM
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OP has accused nullius of being untrustworthy. OP does not trust Lauda and aTriz.

You are a very shitty scam detector, scam_detector. Anyway, my offer is still open - show me where I "scammed" anyone and I'll give you a bitcoin.

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February 28, 2018, 02:26:12 AM
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As for my legitimacy, I invite anyone to Skype me when I return from college today, and I will prove that I am who I say I am.
I usually see ibminer as a good candidate for reviewing evidence, but I'm pretty sure he won't be willing to go for this one. @ib Tongue
I'm curious if the proof will be in the form of a fake ID?  is the "FWB" she has spoken of her little brother?  oh I'm so confused... a Skype session... maybe there will be boobs... I do like boobs ... bah, give me a break. I wouldn't want to touch that with a 10 foot pole hop VPN.


An interesting post asking for an ID using the name "Alia Armelle" not too long before this "alia_armelle" account was created (account name has recently changed to "alia"?)

screenshot of cached page: https://i.imgur.com/qa0i37u.png
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:teDI4x4GuO4J:https://www.reddit.com/r/forhire/comments/7rfy66/hiring_need_somebody_to_photoshop_an_id_for_me/
(had to use cache, original is deleted)

And the same account on reddit that asked for this ID (revcback) is apparently only 15:


And oddly enough, this same account (revcback) uses "Daily Discussion" frequently on reddit as seen here in the last posts.
"Daily Discussion" is displayed on the first tab of the screenshot provided by the "alia" account in the OP of this thread):
https://imgur.com/a/CMdja

If it were me, I'd stay far away from this account for numerous reasons.

Daily Discussion is a BitcoinMarkets thread which thousands of people post on every day. And thank you for showing me the ID thing, I need to have a chat with him about that. I suspect he was trying to get into one of my exchange accounts for something that I did to him, personal stuff, but mainly petty brother-sister feuds.

I've never seen a brother-sister feud lead to identity theft in order to access an exchange account. A whole family of shady people  Huh  I can only imagine what you could do to him in retaliation for this (and I so hope it doesn't involve Skype)... oh, those brother-sister feuds.  Huh

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February 28, 2018, 02:27:57 AM
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As for my legitimacy, I invite anyone to Skype me when I return from college today, and I will prove that I am who I say I am.
I usually see ibminer as a good candidate for reviewing evidence, but I'm pretty sure he won't be willing to go for this one. @ib Tongue
I'm curious if the proof will be in the form of a fake ID?  is the "FWB" she has spoken of her little brother?  oh I'm so confused... a Skype session... maybe there will be boobs... I do like boobs ... bah, give me a break. I wouldn't want to touch that with a 10 foot pole hop VPN.


An interesting post asking for an ID using the name "Alia Armelle" not too long before this "alia_armelle" account was created (account name has recently changed to "alia"?)

screenshot of cached page: https://i.imgur.com/qa0i37u.png
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:teDI4x4GuO4J:https://www.reddit.com/r/forhire/comments/7rfy66/hiring_need_somebody_to_photoshop_an_id_for_me/
(had to use cache, original is deleted)

And the same account on reddit that asked for this ID (revcback) is apparently only 15:


And oddly enough, this same account (revcback) uses "Daily Discussion" frequently on reddit as seen here in the last posts.
"Daily Discussion" is displayed on the first tab of the screenshot provided by the "alia" account in the OP of this thread):
https://imgur.com/a/CMdja

If it were me, I'd stay far away from this account for numerous reasons.

Daily Discussion is a BitcoinMarkets thread which thousands of people post on every day. And thank you for showing me the ID thing, I need to have a chat with him about that. I suspect he was trying to get into one of my exchange accounts for something that I did to him, personal stuff, but mainly petty brother-sister feuds.

I've never seen a brother-sister feud lead to identity theft in order to access an exchange account. A whole family of shady people  Huh  I can only imagine what you could do to him in retaliation for this (and I so hope it doesn't involve Skype)... oh, those brother-sister feuds.  Huh

Anyone can add me on Skype and verify that I am who I say I am.

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February 28, 2018, 02:37:08 AM
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nullius is lauda. That is very clear. Anyone who does not see this is simply closing their eyes.
Given the advanced cryptography knowledge (among other things) shown by nullius, I take this as a compliment. I assume that you have proof for this accusation?  :)

Did you have a cat named Alia and did you grow up on Armelle street? I'm sure this is the missing link.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2837197.msg29420977#msg29420977  :D

Well, proves my point even worse than I expected:  Mr. Nasty will go pick on a woman, because he’s too much of a snivelling poltroon to take a shot at me.  Disgusting.

This is the level of impotent prick who gets the tar beaten out of him by a strip club bouncer after trying to stiff one of the ladies—for either plausible definition of the word “stiff”.

Given that sort of character, it’s no wonder that women must dislike him so much that he feels an urgent need to go around posturing with the stink of desperation to pretend he’s a Real Man.  Protip:  Real Men never do that—except when they’re mocking and quasi-satirizing a wannabe such as Mr. Nasty.

For those who don’t know who Alia is, she’s a 19-year-old camgirl (/u/GirlsGoneBitcoin verified by theymos) who so happens to like me.  (Or per my trust page...)  My first-ever contact with her occured just yesterday, in public.  She has no direct involvement in this matter.  For Mr. Nasty to take a shot at her in lieu of me is the single most contemptible thing I’ve seen today in a thread which is a creepy horror-show of contemptible things.  Though I’d still call him Quickseller’s soul-brother, I’m no longer sure which of them is worse.

Maybe I misunderstood it, but honestly I did not feel like reading the linked thread and I assumed that you really met her. Since I have no time and no desire to read through the linked thread, I now assume that you did not mean it. If that is the case, I apologize!

As I have said many times. I am only concerned with the two persons mentioned in the OP!

Ah.  Correct hermeneutical reading of this text should be settled by the fact that the words “just yesterday, in public” were hyperlinked to the post whereby I made first contact in full public view of the whole forum.  That post was an open letter to Alia.  The next post in the thread was Alia’s reply to it.  To set this now in virtual stone:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180228021905/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2846629.msg30424698#msg30424698

First rule of scam detecting:  Get the evidence.  Seriously, “did not feel like” clicking on a hyperlink?

Now, I see roughly four remaining divergent issues in this thread:

  • The control of accounts #1764044 “alia” and #974658 “favours”.  IP evidence is damning, but has been challenged.  Outweighing IP evidence would be a hefty task, and quite a surprise to most people here.  theymos’ suggestion would fully settle the matter, if it were to actually occur.
  • The propriety of offering for sale of gambling scripts and of claims made about them.  As I’ve said, I lack sufficient knowledge to make a judgment there—but I do trust RGBKey’s technical judgment.
  • Involvement by aTriz with the preceding item.  This looks to me like a case of technical ignorance.  It seems more an accusation that aTriz got scammed than that he scammed anybody.  Obviously, this point hinges entirely on the preceding.
  • Some vague claim that aTriz did wrong with that 3-year contract.  I have not seen a precise accusation specified, let alone supported by evidence.

I hope that helps avoid conflation of issues and sort out remaining factual questions.  I repeat again to all parties:  My sole concern is the truth.  I am zealous about that.

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February 28, 2018, 02:39:36 AM
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I've never seen a brother-sister feud lead to identity theft in order to access an exchange account.

Welcome to $YEAR.  Don’t get me started.

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Let me explain the thing about the script.

The whole problem hinges on gambler's fallacy, which is a small part of an indicator within the script.

The odds of you getting hit by lightning on any given day is X. The odds of you getting hit by lightning two days in a row is astronomically smaller than X. If day 1 and day 2 are considered separate, then the odds of you getting hit (even on day 2) should still be X. But, if you consider day 1 and day 2 in succession, it is highly improbable that on both days the same person would get hit by lightning. This is the principle I use, and it may be technically unsound, but it works.

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My sole concern is the truth.  I am zealous about that.

How about start using your legendary account? We all know you have been bitcoining from the early days. You just can't resist bragging about your crypto knowledge.
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My sole concern is the truth.  I am zealous about that.

How about start using your legendary account? We all know you have been bitcoining from the early days. You just can't resist bragging about your crypto knowledge.

As interesting as that would be, this isn't the place for ad hominems and off-topic queries.

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  • Some vague claim that aTriz did wrong with that 3-year contract.  I have not seen a precise accusation specified, let alone supported by evidence.

Honestly. Would you just enter into a three-year contract with a newbie? I did not say that I have evidence that this contract did not materialize or anything else. I only said that it is very unusual to enter into a THREE year internet contract with a newbie. Either some underestimate a three-year contract and the consequences or they intentionally ignore these consequences. That's one of the reasons why I no longer consider aTriz trustworthy.
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February 28, 2018, 02:52:42 AM
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My sole concern is the truth.  I am zealous about that.

How about start using your legendary account? We all know you have been bitcoining from the early days. You just can't resist bragging about your crypto knowledge.

As interesting as that would be, this isn't the place for ad hominems and off-topic queries.

A con artist like you should be the sole focus of the inquisition in cleaning up this forum and not the pahjeets.
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February 28, 2018, 02:53:14 AM
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  • Some vague claim that aTriz did wrong with that 3-year contract.  I have not seen a precise accusation specified, let alone supported by evidence.

Honestly. Would you just enter into a three-year contract with a newbie? I did not say that I have evidence that this contract did not materialize or anything else. I only said that it is very unusual to enter into a THREE year internet contract with a newbie. Either some underestimate a three-year contract and the consequences or they intentionally ignore these consequences. That's one of the reasons why I no longer consider aTriz trustworthy.

It was an offer that I made, and he graciously accepted it. I am a quality poster, he recognized that, and got in with me early and cheap. Don't be jealous just because 99% of your posts are shitposts and nobody will ever contract you for a month, let alone 3 years.

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