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March 24, 2018, 11:41:30 AM |
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Electonium will make a fork too and then x3 will remain idle
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ruplikminer
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March 24, 2018, 04:16:59 PM |
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So it seems like only the Baikal N is going to make some cash cause it's being delivered right these days and still no fork for now.
The "lucky" buyers of the X3 will enjoy it for a few days and then, the question is: how will they use their X3?
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March 24, 2018, 07:32:16 PM |
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So it seems like only the Baikal N is going to make some cash cause it's being delivered right these days and still no fork for now.
The "lucky" buyers of the X3 will enjoy it for a few days and then, the question is: how will they use their X3?
they can heat their house or flat with them  |
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March 25, 2018, 07:30:49 AM |
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So it seems like only the Baikal N is going to make some cash cause it's being delivered right these days and still no fork for now.
The "lucky" buyers of the X3 will enjoy it for a few days and then, the question is: how will they use their X3?
they can heat their house or flat with them ... or maybe there will be a firmware update |
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ruplikminer
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March 25, 2018, 08:02:17 AM |
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So it seems like only the Baikal N is going to make some cash cause it's being delivered right these days and still no fork for now.
The "lucky" buyers of the X3 will enjoy it for a few days and then, the question is: how will they use their X3?
they can heat their house or flat with them ... or maybe there will be a firmware update no firmware update fosho. We all asked Bitmain many times and they have been clear. No way to have a firmware update to fix the fork. If there could have been a firmware update do you think they would have lowered the price so much? |
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March 25, 2018, 09:02:10 AM
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Wtf were they thinking?
Don't they know Monero community hates ASICs? By making an ASIC for those who hate ASICs.. What do they expect in return? Monero will do a PoW change hopefully.
Bitcoin community was too slow to understand what a fucking poison Bitmain/ASICs were but Monero community exactly knows what they are.
Actually satoshi knew damn good and well. He asked for a gentlemen’s agreement at first when artfortz I believe it was created first gpu miner. It’s been a while I could be foggy on details. The asic manufacturers are taking this business model. Creating bullshit asic resistant coins only to come with an asic they have been mining with from beginning. I really am beginning to think this is all a game from hw manufacturers to sell us pc hw when we really didn’t need anymore shit. Yea some great things have come from this industry and more will come. But the mining side of things has a lot of issue to work out. Here’s one article from the past.  . https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63365.0;allHere is where it’s finally released. You see cycle is just repeated.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63365.msg775231#msg775231Br |
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March 25, 2018, 10:00:18 AM |
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So it seems like only the Baikal N is going to make some cash cause it's being delivered right these days and still no fork for now.
The "lucky" buyers of the X3 will enjoy it for a few days and then, the question is: how will they use their X3?
they can heat their house or flat with them ... or maybe there will be a firmware update no firmware update fosho. We all asked Bitmain many times and they have been clear. No way to have a firmware update to fix the fork. If there could have been a firmware update do you think they would have lowered the price so much? and another question is would they release? sure they will still be mining with it. will somebody fork monero and call it monero cash please? so i wont be wasting my paperweight shit asic? remember, monero cash will be the real monero. -roger /s |
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March 27, 2018, 03:59:02 AM |
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So it seems like only the Baikal N is going to make some cash cause it's being delivered right these days and still no fork for now.
The "lucky" buyers of the X3 will enjoy it for a few days and then, the question is: how will they use their X3?
the scam artists will start pumping out masternode crap coins like they are for X11, D3 owners to mine |
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March 27, 2018, 05:41:29 AM |
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Antpool has Monero now. I wonder what the heck is bitmain doing.
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March 27, 2018, 06:03:23 AM |
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I heard that Monero V7 algo will happen in the April instead of 28 this March? I think KnightOfPi also saying about that as well. So, are we fucked up by this ASIC bastard? Just building my GPU rigs to focus on CN algo and then this CN ASIC mining comes and fucked up everything!  Correct. Looks to be early April. https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/3424Wow, would you believe it that both batches of this ASIC miner, Antminer X3,Batch 1 $11999 and Antminer X3,Batch 2 $7599 were all Sold Out? It was printed... Or, it's just a trick or FUD? |
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March 27, 2018, 06:55:13 AM |
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Is there any way Bitmain can 'change the firmware' to get around a fork of some of the coins like moreno threating such?
curious if they have any options with ASIC's as an X3 miner...
just watching from the sidelines but curious...
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ruplikminer
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March 27, 2018, 12:45:18 PM |
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Is there any way Bitmain can 'change the firmware' to get around a fork of some of the coins like moreno threating such?
curious if they have any options with ASIC's as an X3 miner...
just watching from the sidelines but curious...
Forget it. No way. This wont happen. 100% |
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March 27, 2018, 12:56:35 PM |
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Is there any way Bitmain can 'change the firmware' to get around a fork of some of the coins like moreno threating such?
curious if they have any options with ASIC's as an X3 miner...
just watching from the sidelines but curious...
Forget it. No way. This wont happen. 100% At least not for "public"? |
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March 27, 2018, 04:41:04 PM |
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if there would be a way to firmware upgrade you wouldnt even know shitmain x3 & shitkal miner N exist
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March 27, 2018, 04:48:52 PM |
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So it seems like only the Baikal N is going to make some cash cause it's being delivered right these days and still no fork for now.
The "lucky" buyers of the X3 will enjoy it for a few days and then, the question is: how will they use their X3?
they can heat their house or flat with them ... or maybe there will be a firmware update no firmware update fosho. We all asked Bitmain many times and they have been clear. No way to have a firmware update to fix the fork. If there could have been a firmware update do you think they would have lowered the price so much? Why would bitmain provide a firmware update when they can just create a new machine for that algo and sell those in droves as well. They have a clear path as a business and thats to sell as many machines as possible, not "help" the miners who bought one of their machines, they've already got your money. |
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March 27, 2018, 05:26:52 PM |
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Is there any way Bitmain can 'change the firmware' to get around a fork of some of the coins like moreno threating such?
curious if they have any options with ASIC's as an X3 miner...
just watching from the sidelines but curious...
Forget it. No way. This wont happen. 100% At least not for "public"? Thats not how ASICs work...the "firmware" is etched into the silicon. Once the ASIC is made for a particular algorithm thats ALL it can do and there is no way to change it. The only exception to this is if bitmain started building their own FPGAs, which would be way slower than ASICs, but much more energy efficient than GPUs, and almost as flexible as GPUs in changing the algorithm. Of course like others have stated, there is no reason for them to offer a flexible FPGA style miner, when they can just pump out new ASICs for every new algorithm. They have become so good at it they can bring a new algorithm to silicon in a few months it seems. |
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March 30, 2018, 01:25:32 AM |
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no firmware update fosho. We all asked Bitmain many times and they have been clear. No way to have a firmware update to fix the fork. If there could have been a firmware update do you think they would have lowered the price so much?
Why would bitmain provide a firmware update when they can just create a new machine for that algo and sell those in droves as well. They have a clear path as a business and thats to sell as many machines as possible, not "help" the miners who bought one of their machines, they've already got your money. They won't do this. Monero will just fork again and they know it. Once people receive their X3s, unless there is a way to profit on them, they won't be buying a newer monero-focused asic after. Bitmain are many things, but they aren't stupid. |
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March 31, 2018, 05:33:23 AM |
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So folks with more 'tech cred' on this kinda thing then I have...if you could explain to me (the technically lame on this topic)
does this mean that MOSTLY these x3 machines are gonna be 'dead out of the box' doorstops when they arrive?
or are these forks gonna play out..over say a bit of time MONTHS....so that it has SOME life?
curious (did not get one..not interested)
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March 31, 2018, 07:27:21 AM |
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So folks with more 'tech cred' on this kinda thing then I have...if you could explain to me (the technically lame on this topic)
does this mean that MOSTLY these x3 machines are gonna be 'dead out of the box' doorstops when they arrive?
or are these forks gonna play out..over say a bit of time MONTHS....so that it has SOME life?
curious (did not get one..not interested)
brad
they will be dead even before shipping |
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March 31, 2018, 01:47:36 PM |
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So folks with more 'tech cred' on this kinda thing then I have...if you could explain to me (the technically lame on this topic)
does this mean that MOSTLY these x3 machines are gonna be 'dead out of the box' doorstops when they arrive?
or are these forks gonna play out..over say a bit of time MONTHS....so that it has SOME life?
curious (did not get one..not interested)
brad
NO! Let's be honest. Monero will for and maybe also other cryptonight coins but not ALL will fork. And if you check right now the MOST profitable crypotnight coin to mine is not monero nor electroneum nor any of the coins supposed to fork. So there will always be some chances to make some profit out of the X3. not big profit but some yes. |
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