[CRYPTOSTOCKS] Labcoin Official Thread - Self-Moderated

[Bitcycle]

"Sam" has stopped paying divs.  No explanation, he just stopped giving us our money.

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[JohnyBigs]

ruh roh, anybody going to give alberto a visit?

NineLives is working on it, we have to wait for his investigation. Maybe give him some dick too, so he prepares for jail.

[TheCoinBull]

As I hope Nine Lives is successful in his search, just want to let the fellow people who've been screwed know the following, I have lost big in this scam, but luckily have already made it all back again thanks to explosion in BTC value over the past week. With the recent uncover of information on the Identity of who started this scam, Ive employed a very well know International Private Investigations contractor, given them a few good leads on the location of the suspect Mr. Noi (will refer to him as such for personal legal reasons). They have been instructed to follow and remain unknown, when they locate Mr.Noi. I have also contacted a good friend of mine who is what you could say involved in some gray areas. He will be transporting Mr. Noi once found, to my old friends tribal reserve located in in asia, where upon my contacts request he will be put on trial in front of the village elders for theft of Money directly tied to the tribe, as this will be covered in my direct donation. It will then be up to the tribe to decide his fate. All this of course will be legal as in the territory I speak of they are granted personal right to deal with law breakers as they see fit. Fuck you, Sam Noi. Will see you sooner than you think

[RoadStress]

"Sam" has stopped paying divs.  No explanation, he just stopped giving us our money.

Just lol!

[dhenson]

"Sam" has stopped paying divs.  No explanation, he just stopped giving us our money.

To clarify in case Sam is reading and this was an honest mistake...

On 10/29 13.88218222 bitcoin was transferred to cryptostocks and NOT dispersed.
https://blockchain.info/tx/f8d1fadfc2093c7861b54969e6222c271c2ae90f281af2ed62b7ac1cedbee5a8

On 11/3 14.97667974 bitcoin was transferred to cryptostocks and NOT dispersed.
https://blockchain.info/tx/7e63c1cdf4a05e5b4d1e8a4ed4eb0d2052da6b6d4b65a34c8be1187d7ec9e6af

This leaves 28.85886196 left to be dispersed that is most likely sitting in your cryptostocks wallet.

[bitmoon]

when i come here, i always think what swede is doing, i checked his post and doing his own thing.

is he offering help with what you guys doing?

atleast old labcoin thread is not closed, looks like swede denied labcoin, still useless, but for me, now i know swede and sam dont have link any more.

but why still have labcoin logo avatar? and you only removed poker,casino references from your sig

[dtown]

Seriously - you keep most people quiet by simply paying divs like you said you would.

While it bothers me that there's no dialogue with labcoin at all, all you have to do is pay your dividends and I'm relatively happy. 

[gecko_x2]

As I hope Nine Lives is successful in his search, just want to let the fellow people who've been screwed know the following, I have lost big in this scam, but luckily have already made it all back again thanks to explosion in BTC value over the past week. With the recent uncover of information on the Identity of who started this scam, Ive employed a very well know International Private Investigations contractor, given them a few good leads on the location of the suspect Mr. Noi (will refer to him as such for personal legal reasons). They have been instructed to follow and remain unknown, when they locate Mr.Noi. I have also contacted a good friend of mine who is what you could say involved in some gray areas. He will be transporting Mr. Noi once found, to my old friends tribal reserve located in in asia, where upon my contacts request he will be put on trial in front of the village elders for theft of Money directly tied to the tribe, as this will be covered in my direct donation. It will then be up to the tribe to decide his fate. All this of course will be legal as in the territory I speak of they are granted personal right to deal with law breakers as they see fit. Fuck you, Sam Noi. Will see you sooner than you think

I'm not happy to post on this thread, but i feel obligated now

I would seriously, very seriously recommend you not to do this. Regardless of the fact that money has been lost, kidnapping and possible torture should be absolutely out of the question. That would only sink the perpetrator and anyone advocating for that to an ever lower level than the original perpetrator himself. This is a human being, all actions should and must be done according to the law. Taking the law into your own hands just makes you even more of a lowlife than Sam. Why would you want to sink yourself to the same or even a lower lever, moral highground must be kept at all times in this case.

Also be aware that if you travel to another country even just to try to find this person without involving, and completely handing over the case to local authorities, you are very likely to face charges of international espionage and even terrorism, in which case your lost btc will be the LEAST of your problems.

Again, i would SERIOUSLY recommend you DO NOT DO THIS.

Just let the water flow under the bridge for some time, one never knows what fate has in store for any of us, or Sam/Fabrizio/Whatever

[BitThink]

This is his second post, and the last one (also his first post) was on August. Interesting. Nonetheless, I agree with him in principle. The best solution is to respect the law. But back to the reality, we know some members here are in the 'grey' world and it's really a bad idea for 'Sam' to piss off them.

[Sou]

As I hope Nine Lives is successful in his search, just want to let the fellow people who've been screwed know the following, I have lost big in this scam, but luckily have already made it all back again thanks to explosion in BTC value over the past week. With the recent uncover of information on the Identity of who started this scam, Ive employed a very well know International Private Investigations contractor, given them a few good leads on the location of the suspect Mr. Noi (will refer to him as such for personal legal reasons). They have been instructed to follow and remain unknown, when they locate Mr.Noi. I have also contacted a good friend of mine who is what you could say involved in some gray areas. He will be transporting Mr. Noi once found, to my old friends tribal reserve located in in asia, where upon my contacts request he will be put on trial in front of the village elders for theft of Money directly tied to the tribe, as this will be covered in my direct donation. It will then be up to the tribe to decide his fate. All this of course will be legal as in the territory I speak of they are granted personal right to deal with law breakers as they see fit. Fuck you, Sam Noi. Will see you sooner than you think

I'm not happy to post on this thread, but i feel obligated now

I would seriously, very seriously recommend you not to do this. Regardless of the fact that money has been lost, kidnapping and possible torture should be absolutely out of the question. That would only sink the perpetrator and anyone advocating for that to an ever lower level than the original perpetrator himself. This is a human being, all actions should and must be done according to the law. Taking the law into your own hands just makes you even more of a lowlife than Sam. Why would you want to sink yourself to the same or even a lower lever, moral highground must be kept at all times in this case.

Also be aware that if you travel to another country even just to try to find this person without involving, and completely handing over the case to local authorities, you are very likely to face charges of international espionage and even terrorism, in which case your lost btc will be the LEAST of your problems.

Again, i would SERIOUSLY recommend you DO NOT DO THIS.

Just let the water flow under the bridge for some time, one never knows what fate has in store for any of us, or Sam/Fabrizio/Whatever

I don't even know what to believe anymore.

[gecko_x2]

This is his second post, and the last one (also his first post) was on August. Interesting. Nonetheless, I agree with him in principle. The best solution is to respect the law. But back to the reality, we know some members here are in the 'grey' world and it's really a bad idea for 'Sam' to piss off them.

I have been on irc for over 20 years using this nick. I am posting this from the same ip which is traceable down to my front door. I'm a small blond finnish dude, and i have nothing to fear, many ppl will vouch that i am certainly no sam.

I am also aware that the NSA's Tailored Access Group is walking around inside this desktop at this very moment, as they are inside all of your computers as well, linux, bsd, windows it makes no difference, if they want in, they are in.

[BitThink]

This is his second post, and the last one (also his first post) was on August. Interesting. Nonetheless, I agree with him in principle. The best solution is to respect the law. But back to the reality, we know some members here are in the 'grey' world and it's really a bad idea for 'Sam' to piss off them.

I have been on irc for over 20 years using this nick. I am posting this from the same ip which is traceable down to my front door. I'm a small blond finnish dude, and i have nothing to fear, many ppl will vouch that i am certainly no sam.

I am also aware that the NSA's Tailored Access Group is walking around inside this desktop at this very moment, as they are inside all of your computers as well, linux, bsd, windows it makes no difference, if they want in, they are in.

Yes, if Sam actually works for NSA or has some big value to NSA. Otherwise, they are crazy to monitor every computer to protect a john doe.

I did not necessarily mean you are Sam. Actually it is more likely you don't know the whole story why people hate this 'Sam'. I certainly agree with you on that all things should follow the law, but sometimes some pressure from the 'grey' world may do more help for this 'Sam' to behave better. That said, actually we can do nothing to help this 'Sam' if some tough guys are really angry about him. Only 'Sam' can help himself now.

[virtualspade]

Ok guys lets put the pitch forks down for a second and get back to reality, first that chinese address is 3 years old and Alberto is atm in Italy and has probably been there for some time now so lets start there. Second Fabrizio Tatti is Italian and the owner of I-tec.pro aka Labcoin so we have to start with him.

So first we need to gather a list of people who has lost plenty of money ( together over 200 000$ ) with this SCAM, then we take that list and make a criminal complaint and submit it to Italian "Polizia Postale" the Italian cyber-crime unit.

And with the complaint we will submit Albertos involvement in Labcoin and his fraud history and a estimate of how much money he has stolen from people in the past. Im sure the will want to put him away and not let him get away with that, as this is their job to put guys like him away. And since Fabrizio is the owner working with known criminal I am sure he also will get convicted for his crime.

We have there IP addresses that they have been using on IRC and Im sure the Polizia Postale will find out who Sam is and take him in for questioning and he will also get convicted if he exists. We can also mention that they have been logging in to Btc talk and Btc-t Im sure Btc talk will give information to the police regarding the accounts these SCAMMERS have been using ( IP addresses of logins to Labcoin and delaria accounts ) Burnside will release the IPO BTC address and possibly IP addresses via order from the US gov or Belize gov if the Polizia Postale will ask for them.

So the right way of moving forward is getting people who lost money to get together and submit the complaint to the right authorities and they will hunt these guys down and bring them to justice.

So if you guys are ready to submit your real names and how much you lost to the complaint Im sure we can get get this case rolling. I personally have not lost so much so I can not do anything alone and I need some big investors to join this endeavour if we are going to succeed in bringing these SCAMMERS to justice. Personally I dont see how we are going to get all our money back but Im sure these guys will not SCAM again if we can put them away for a long time.   

[Fishbones]

This Sam, aka, "whatever name he thinks he is hiding behind" ... got himself into this shit. One does NOT just collect (rob) 7000BTC from 100's or 1000's of people (investors) and expect them to sit around letting water run under the bridge while he does not comunicate, pay dividends according to promised hashrate, show proof of the invested and/or leftover BTC etc.. No more water to flow dude. There are many many VERY PISSED OFF people who will seek legal, and not so legal action.
He should not be worried about the guys that come here and say that they are going to do this or that etc. Worry about  

To whomever it may concern in charge and responsible for Labcoin ... I'd start showing some positive results and start explaining whats going on right about now.

[Fishbones]

Ok guys lets put the pitch forks down for a second and get back to reality, first that chinese address is 3 years old and Alberto is atm in Italy and has probably been there for some time now so lets start there. Second Fabrizio Tatti is Italian and the owner of I-tec.pro aka Labcoin so we have to start with him.

So first we need to gather a list of people who has lost plenty of money ( together over 200 000$ ) with this SCAM, then we take that list and make a criminal complaint and submit it to Italian "Polizia Postale" the Italian cyber-crime unit.

And with the complaint we will submit Albertos involvement in Labcoin and his fraud history and a estimate of how much money he has stolen from people in the past. Im sure the will want to put him away and not let him get away with that, as this is their job to put guys like him away. And since Fabrizio is the owner working with known criminal I am sure he also will get convicted for his crime.

We have there IP addresses that they have been using on IRC and Im sure the Polizia Postale will find out who Sam is and take him in for questioning and he will also get convicted if he exists. We can also mention that they have been logging in to Btc talk and Btc-t Im sure Btc talk will give information to the police regarding the accounts these SCAMMERS have been using ( IP addresses of logins to Labcoin and delaria accounts ) Burnside will release the IPO BTC address and possibly IP addresses via order from the US gov or Belize gov if the Polizia Postale will ask for them.

So the right way of moving forward is getting people who lost money to get together and submit the complaint to the right authorities and they will hunt these guys down and bring them to justice.

So if you guys are ready to submit your real names and how much you lost to the complaint Im sure we can get get this case rolling. I personally have not lost so much so I can not do anything alone and I need some big investors to join this endeavour if we are going to succeed in bringing these SCAMMERS to justice. Personally I dont see how we are going to get all our money back but Im sure these guys will not SCAM again if we can put them away for a long time.  

Looks like a good strategy. Question is, who is going to lead this case? Should the complaint be made in Italy, Hong Kong or both? Do we need somebody on the ground to present these complaints?

[Bitcycle]

"Sam", it's time to pay out the owed dividends.

If you have any progress to share, this is the time.  If you have more hashing but it's not stable, say it.  State the problem.  Be detailed.

The strategy of silence and "letting the hashing do the talking" doesn't work if the hashing doesn't increase and you don't pay the dividends.  In that case, you have to explain yourself.

The road you're on is leading to legal troubles for you.  You can still avoid that, *if* you're legit and can explain yourself.

But you do have to communicate.  

[virtualspade]

Looks like a good strategy. Question is, who is going lead this case? Should the complaint be made in Italy, Hong Kong or both? Do we need somebody on the ground to present these complaints?

Im no expert in this area but i think we should start with the Italian authorities since these guys are from Italy and there is an Italian lawyer who can set us up with a Italian criminal lawyer who can prepare the compliant and submit it the authorities.

As for the payment of this I suggest the that lawyer sets up a BTC donation address and a estimate of the cost and when there is sufficient funds to proceed he will make the paper work and submit the compliant to the authorities. And for the personal information that is needed I suggest emailing the information directly to the criminal lawyer who is handling the case.

And for taking the lead of this I suggest someone from lcsh group who has some more credibility with the community as Im just a newbie. This is just my suggestion and we can ask the lawyer what he thinks of this approach.

[Puppet]

As for the payment of this I suggest the that lawyer sets up a BTC donation address and a estimate of the cost and when there is sufficient funds to proceed he will make the paper work and submit the compliant to the authorities. And for the personal information that is needed I suggest emailing the in

And for taking the lead of this I suggest someone from lcsh group who has some more credibility with the community as Im just a newbie. This is just my suggestion and we can ask the lawyer what he thinks of this approach.

are you italian?

anyway, before paying for a lawyer, you should contact the authorities. cyber crime and/or financial regulator. I would do this both in Hong Kong and Italy. fabrizio is presumably still in hk and his name. is linked to this without a shadow of a doubt. It may be less clear to authorities that Alberto is involved. putting some heat on fabrizio will make prove that rather quickly i suspect

[TheCoinBull]

Any one who would like to aid me in bringing Mr. Noi to justice ( I wont quite until I find him) can send donations to:1NsAXEQg9jpdCe6Z9STCpm5AW74K8FYJ, also upon request I can send you pics of Mr. Noi once located. Please PM me any information that can speed things up.

[hammurabi]

We should move the discussion to other thread. This one is moderated so important things may be gone unnoticed.
It is probably reason labcoin started this thread to have some ability to hide important evidence.

Maybe separate thread called 'labcoin lawsuit' or something like that will do best.