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December 06, 2013, 08:45:27 PM
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its not true HW errors (bad nonce data), its just erraneous garbage the uC spits out while reading the buffer that contain the good nonces the ßfury found since last poll

buffer[0...15 or 16] is the good nonce data. i think it reads the whole buffer and sends it over usb

Thanks, so I'm basically looking good with my setup Smiley

Now I only wish I could find some more of these or similar devices for a reasonable price in Germany. It's literally insane what even small 330MH/s Block Erupters are selling for over here...

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December 06, 2013, 08:58:30 PM
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Then try the brand new TwinFury!
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December 07, 2013, 12:52:55 AM
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Then try the brand new TwinFury!

I certainly would if their shop accepted some sort of Cash Transfer :/

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December 07, 2013, 09:21:59 AM
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hi guys, i bought a usb hub for my 2 red fury miners and while running for a few mins they are declared sick then dead... but they are fine when i plug them back into regular usb slots and mine wout the hub. id rather use the hub as the miners block access to other ports. any hints anyone?
cant find similar posts on this here, sorry for repeat post if it was addressed already.
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What sort of hub did you try?  You need to have a powered hub with sufficient current capacity for your miners.  You'd do better if you avoid connecting fans or other gadgets to ports close to your Red Furies.  It should be a USB 2 hub, not USB 3.  There is a thread somewhere on this site with a list of 'good' and 'bad' hubs for Block Erupters, which should probably apply also to RF's.  Check that you see the devices in Device Manager if you use Windows.  Make sure that they are detected with the correct driver assigned if you played with cgminer and bfgminer.  My BF/RF's are using a very cheap 10 port USB2 hub with an alternative plug pack that delivers 4A instead of the original.  The coexist with a bunch of other USB miners, some using bfgminer and some cgminer.

Cheers

thanks for the replies, its a usb3 hub:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/131040267176?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
but i think others say usb3 is ok for them...
power on it says 5vdc which should be right for 2 sticks..?

do you recall which thread the list of good and bad hubs are listed, cant find it:/ think i need to make new purchase.
thanks!

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December 07, 2013, 09:31:48 AM
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hi guys, i bought a usb hub for my 2 red fury miners and while running for a few mins they are declared sick then dead... but they are fine when i plug them back into regular usb slots and mine wout the hub. id rather use the hub as the miners block access to other ports. any hints anyone?
cant find similar posts on this here, sorry for repeat post if it was addressed already.
cheers
What sort of hub did you try?  You need to have a powered hub with sufficient current capacity for your miners.  You'd do better if you avoid connecting fans or other gadgets to ports close to your Red Furies.  It should be a USB 2 hub, not USB 3.  There is a thread somewhere on this site with a list of 'good' and 'bad' hubs for Block Erupters, which should probably apply also to RF's.  Check that you see the devices in Device Manager if you use Windows.  Make sure that they are detected with the correct driver assigned if you played with cgminer and bfgminer.  My BF/RF's are using a very cheap 10 port USB2 hub with an alternative plug pack that delivers 4A instead of the original.  The coexist with a bunch of other USB miners, some using bfgminer and some cgminer.

Cheers

thanks for the replies, its a usb3 hub:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/131040267176?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
but i think others say usb3 is ok for them...
power on it says 5vdc which should be right for 2 sticks..?

do you recall which thread the list of good and bad hubs are listed, cant find it:/ think i need to make new purchase.
thanks!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253749.msg2700634#msg2700634

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December 07, 2013, 05:22:05 PM
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thanks for the replies, its a usb3 hub:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/131040267176?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
but i think others say usb3 is ok for them...
power on it says 5vdc which should be right for 2 sticks..?

do you recall which thread the list of good and bad hubs are listed, cant find it:/ think i need to make new purchase.
thanks!

That's confusing because USB 3 hubs are 12 volts I thought.

Would be the Amps that determine how many you can run.
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thanks for the replies, its a usb3 hub:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/131040267176?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
but i think others say usb3 is ok for them...
power on it says 5vdc which should be right for 2 sticks..?

do you recall which thread the list of good and bad hubs are listed, cant find it:/ think i need to make new purchase.
thanks!

That's confusing because USB 3 hubs are 12 volts I thought.

Would be the Amps that determine how many you can run.
all usb hubs put out 5 volts  the usb port, but they have different input power bricks.. if the hub has a 5 volt brick there is no dc to dc converter in it. if a HUB has a 12 volt brick there is a 12 volt to 5 volt dc to dc converter in it.   general rules of thumb a 12 volt brick when converted to 5 volts keeps 80 percent of the power.  so 12 volt  x 5 amp = 60 watts x 80 percent or  48 watts.   safe 24/7/365 run is at 80 percent so 80 percent time 48 = 38.4 watts to 3.84 watts for 1 of 10 ports.

a 5 volt hub is 5 volts x ? amps .. I have a few that are 4 amps so 5 x 4 = 20 watts  at  24/7/365 x 80 percent = 16 watts   so if this is for a 7 port hub it is a no go  as 16 /7 = 2.2 watts a port which is not enough.

I am assuimng the bricks run to their ratings.  most don't

never never never stick a 12 volt hub brick into a 5 volt  hub ..  you will fry the hub and the sticks/  been there  done that.

here is a 7 port hub with a 5 volt 4 amp brick  it runs 3 or 4 sticks:

http://www.amazon.com/GearMo%C2%AE-3DH-USB-3-0-7-Port/dp/B00BZABE72/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1386466199&sr=8-3&keywords=gearmo+7+port


here is a 10 port hub with a 12 volt 4 amp hub


 http://www.gearmo.com/shop/10-port-usb-3-hub-gm-3dh10/ 

 this runs around 6 sticks.   if you take this hubs brick and stick it in the 7 port hub from the same company you will burn up the 7 port hub.

I had hundreds of am sticks and around 20 -25 hubs   I learned one lesson don't mix hubs   make sure every one is a 5 volt power brick or a 12 volt power brick.. this way you can't burn the gear up

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December 08, 2013, 10:15:14 AM
Last edit: December 08, 2013, 10:28:12 AM by FalconFly
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Because I'm no electrician, I have to ask at that point :

Is it of any advantage (does it work in the 1st place) to replace i.e. a 5V Power Supply with i.e. a generic (switchable) one and give it 6V ?
Provided it has the Amps, that's basically overvolting the Hub a little bit. I do own some of those old "universal DC adapters" that let me go 1.5V/3V/6V/12V with a switch.
(the only reason I haven't tested it yet on 6V is that polarity is also a manual selection and the Symbology standard printed on the default USB Power Supply apparently changed sometime, didn't get smart out of it so far and need to carefully verify that; certainly don't want to mess that one up :p )

My idea is, that the USB ASICs then could have a bit more power available which (from my understanding) doesn't hurt them and should increase their hashrate towards their rated specs (mine run the typical ~2.1 Gh/s vs. the advertised "upto" 2.6 Gh/s, which I credit to the USB 2.0 Hub keeping its power output strictly to USB specs)

Workable idea or a good way to kill the Hub/ASICs ? I wouldn't mind "sacrificing" a Hub in the name of science *g* but don't want to bury a miner of course.

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December 08, 2013, 12:40:46 PM
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do you recall which thread the list of good and bad hubs are listed, cant find it:/ think i need to make new purchase.
thanks!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253749.msg2700634#msg2700634
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thanks! will grab one of them Grin

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December 08, 2013, 12:42:30 PM
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thanks for the replies, its a usb3 hub:
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/131040267176?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
but i think others say usb3 is ok for them...
power on it says 5vdc which should be right for 2 sticks..?

do you recall which thread the list of good and bad hubs are listed, cant find it:/ think i need to make new purchase.
thanks!

That's confusing because USB 3 hubs are 12 volts I thought.

Would be the Amps that determine how many you can run.
all usb hubs put out 5 volts  the usb port, but they have different input power bricks.. if the hub has a 5 volt brick there is no dc to dc converter in it. if a HUB has a 12 volt brick there is a 12 volt to 5 volt dc to dc converter in it.   general rules of thumb a 12 volt brick when converted to 5 volts keeps 80 percent of the power.  so 12 volt  x 5 amp = 60 watts x 80 percent or  48 watts.   safe 24/7/365 run is at 80 percent so 80 percent time 48 = 38.4 watts to 3.84 watts for 1 of 10 ports.

a 5 volt hub is 5 volts x ? amps .. I have a few that are 4 amps so 5 x 4 = 20 watts  at  24/7/365 x 80 percent = 16 watts   so if this is for a 7 port hub it is a no go  as 16 /7 = 2.2 watts a port which is not enough.

I am assuimng the bricks run to their ratings.  most don't

never never never stick a 12 volt hub brick into a 5 volt  hub ..  you will fry the hub and the sticks/  been there  done that.

here is a 7 port hub with a 5 volt 4 amp brick  it runs 3 or 4 sticks:

http://www.amazon.com/GearMo%C2%AE-3DH-USB-3-0-7-Port/dp/B00BZABE72/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1386466199&sr=8-3&keywords=gearmo+7+port
before

here is a 10 port hub with a 12 volt 4 amp hub


 http://www.gearmo.com/shop/10-port-usb-3-hub-gm-3dh10/ 

 this runs around 6 sticks.   if you take this hubs brick and stick it in the 7 port hub from the same company you will burn up the 7 port hub.

I had hundreds of am sticks and around 20 -25 hubs   I learned one lesson don't mix hubs   make sure every one is a 5 volt power brick or a 12 volt power brick.. this way you can't burn the gear up
thanks a mil for the detailed reply! ill be sure to check this before buying a replacement Grin

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December 09, 2013, 01:40:03 AM
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Ok I have 3 blue fury's..

They where working fine but all of a sudden 2 have stopped working

Both of them have orange lights and are not recognised by windows.

I have tried rebooting and tried them in different ports but nothing.

I even removed the. Driver but nothing.

Any ideas?

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December 09, 2013, 11:33:12 AM
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Hey Beastlymac,

Is it okay if I offer people repairs to their USB miners that have faulty LED lights and bad resistors?

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Hey Beastlymac,

Is it okay if I offer people repairs to their USB miners that have faulty LED lights and bad resistors?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=364290.0

Sure. Although i would recommend if someone has a faulty unit that is unmodified for them to contact us about getting a replacement. Once units have been modded we can't offer replacements.

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December 09, 2013, 11:46:25 AM
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Ok I have 3 blue fury's..

They where working fine but all of a sudden 2 have stopped working

Both of them have orange lights and are not recognised by windows.

I have tried rebooting and tried them in different ports but nothing.

I even removed the. Driver but nothing.

Any ideas?

Have you tried the reset button?

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December 10, 2013, 01:23:41 AM
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got problems installing drivers to get blue furys working again

getting to this step red box comes up to install driver etc i lick on install anyway and says error has happened and does not install

8 ) Select Install and it will give you a warning that the driver is NOT SIGNED. Press okay. i do this and says unable to install. DO i need to disable driver signature enforcement ?


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December 10, 2013, 01:35:11 AM
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got problems installing drivers to get blue furys working again

getting to this step red box comes up to install driver etc i lick on install anyway and says error has happened and does not install

8 ) Select Install and it will give you a warning that the driver is NOT SIGNED. Press okay. i do this and says unable to install. DO i need to disable driver signature enforcement ?


If you are on windows 8. Yes.

Message me if you have any problems
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December 10, 2013, 01:48:31 AM
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got problems installing drivers to get blue furys working again

getting to this step red box comes up to install driver etc i lick on install anyway and says error has happened and does not install

8 ) Select Install and it will give you a warning that the driver is NOT SIGNED. Press okay. i do this and says unable to install. DO i need to disable driver signature enforcement ?


If you are on windows 8. Yes.

Windows 7 x64 and getting this problem any ideas how to solve this.

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December 10, 2013, 04:29:42 AM
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Sure. Although i would recommend if someone has a faulty unit that is unmodified for them to contact us about getting a replacement. Once units have been modded we can't offer replacements.

Hi BeastlyMac

I sent a faulty unit to Julz which he received on 22/Nov and I haven't heard anything back, were these being replaced or credited? This was not modified at all (not even Pencil Mod). Thanks.
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December 10, 2013, 09:18:44 PM
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Could somebody post the Blue Fury's width and thickness?  Would be helpful to check hub compatibility before they arrive.

Not sure if this is still relevant.  I skimmed through and couldn't see an answer.

These are my measurements.  (not including usb jack)

ie: i left it plugged in while I measured it,  (too tight to stop mining for a couple of minutes  Tongue)


65mm x 30mm x 11mm

Im in UK so I use metric



for Inches (using converter)

2.56 x 1.18 x 0.43

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December 11, 2013, 09:05:49 AM
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The heatsink on the BlueFury is a bit feeble.  I replaced mine with the heatsink off an old dead Matrox G450, stuck on with 3M double sided thermal tape.  Now runs without fan cooling @ 2.7GH.
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