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[Agbe]

A good business that wants to shut down and doesn't want to scam their users doesn't start by actually scamming them, they start by announcing that they will be shutting down at so so time, and all users are expected to have withdrawn all their money on their site by that time.
This is to the best of my knowledge.

Thay is how things are done and not the other way round. Taking a proactive to inform the participants of the website would have ne the best way to go about it but they were just be silent from all the communication channels. No respond from here and their live chat and the email. And once things happened like that users would be suspicting them of scamming them.  In any product and services people render to others in the society, be a online or offline, communication ply the vital role but the moment you just mute your costumers, things would not go well with you again.

Before you know FBI or police will appear in your door step and when you asked, " what you gave me was a fake one and you switched off your device so nobody can reach you.

If there was no scam attempt in the mind of freebitco, they would have been communicating with the users and given them information on the latest news until all the issue would have been settled. It is so bad.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

tbh i doubt anyone is getting their btc back if they are already making these kinds of excuses about abusers, once a site starts throwing smoke grenades like this it usually means the coffers are empty or they are just stalling for time while they move the coins to mixers, i would be curious to see if any high rank users actually get paid because if they stiff the legendary and hero members then you know the project is totally dead

When it comes to any platform scamming, they do not know who are the legendary and who are the hero members, because we are just all the same as the newbies, no casino will selectively scam newbies and don't scam the high ranking members of this forum as well, what for? They will still end up getting alot of negative tags from the high ranking members because here, we supports ourselves.

Like I've said multiple times on this thread, it's best for everyone who has a balance on freebitco to start learning how to forget about it and move on because from all indications, I'm also not expecting the management of this site to keep to their word of allowing users withdraw their money back, it will be absolutely unlikely.

[dabbur]

My only hope is that, if this is legitimate, that mine comes up as a non-abuser (There has been 0 abuse, but I'm sure they'll "find" something), and that they allow tickets for 2FA issues...

From what it sounds like, if we get moved to a separate server and need to log into it, I'm screwed because I can't log in outside of my already logged-in computer. In a perfect world, they'd allow tickets for non-abusers, but this ain't a perfect world and the likelihood of this actually happening is infinitesimally small.

You dont have to have 2FA issues, if I want to login they are sending me a conformation email that never arrives. That would be the esiest way for FBC to save their pennies - no one can login to withdraw.

[Ojima-ojo]

My only hope is that, if this is legitimate, that mine comes up as a non-abuser (There has been 0 abuse, but I'm sure they'll "find" something), and that they allow tickets for 2FA issues...

From what it sounds like, if we get moved to a separate server and need to log into it, I'm screwed because I can't log in outside of my already logged-in computer. In a perfect world, they'd allow tickets for non-abusers, but this ain't a perfect world and the likelihood of this actually happening is infinitesimally small.

You dont have to have 2FA issues, if I want to login they are sending me a conformation email that never arrives. That would be the esiest way for FBC to save their pennies - no one can login to withdraw.

I used to own an account on this platform but i lost it due to losing the bitcoin address which served as my only login credentials, I also did not remember the email address i submitted as a alternative and neither did I even remember my password. But the actually saved me because if I still had access, maybe now I will be among the potential victims this potential rugpull.


For test purposes, a friend just tried signing up but said he did not get the verification email, I personally believe this will come later since he's signing up (potential victim) 😁, but for account recovery, especially an account with balance, I am not sure they will send any recovery email just to make sure they keep the money.

[Petteko]

There is a good chance they would be only trying to win some time with these promises of refunding all gambler their money, but in the end that is something we will know when January 2026 is here. If their intention is keeping as much Bitcoin as possible from their former clients and gamblers, then they will claim the majority of them were abusers of their system and they are not entitled to receive any refund from them. All we can do is observe and continue our research on who is behind all this mess, getting their names and addresses, in the case they are just throwing smoke granates at us so they can get further away from justice.

Would you care to share how much money they owe you? I assume it is more than a couple of hundreds of dollars in Bitcoin, is it?

I think that many already suspect that the freebitcoin team may accuse many users of being abusers under false pretexts to avoid paying out funds. For them, this is the easiest way to wash their hands of the matter. Whether this is true or not will become clear from user posts in this thread at the beginning of next year.

There is no fraud detection and no manual review possible for tens of millions of accounts. So their "filter" will not be a review. It will be an arbitrary, automated cut.

The most likely criterion will be something simple and unfair, like flagging any account that ever won a significant amount on the multiplier. It doesn't matter if you played by the rules. Like a casino that bans a winner just for winning, they will label you an "abuser" because your success is statistically inconvenient.

That is why this will not be personal. It should be a statistical purge. They cannot differentiate, so they will discard en masse. The promise of separating users is a lie to justify not paying almost anyone. The only plausible "best case" is that they make a token payment to a group, maybe low profile VIPs who never hit big on the multiplier, to create the illusion of fairness. The rest will be mass discarded.

If they pay.

tbh i doubt anyone is getting their btc back if they are already making these kinds of excuses about abusers, once a site starts throwing smoke grenades like this it usually means the coffers are empty or they are just stalling for time while they move the coins to mixers, i would be curious to see if any high rank users actually get paid because if they stiff the legendary and hero members then you know the project is totally dead

When it comes to any platform scamming, they do not know who are the legendary and who are the hero members, because we are just all the same as the newbies, no casino will selectively scam newbies and don't scam the high ranking members of this forum as well, what for? They will still end up getting alot of negative tags from the high ranking members because here, we supports ourselves.

Like I've said multiple times on this thread, it's best for everyone who has a balance on freebitco to start learning how to forget about it and move on because from all indications, I'm also not expecting the management of this site to keep to their word of allowing users withdraw their money back, it will be absolutely unlikely.

I mostly agree, especially with the intention behind it. Moving on does not have to mean silence or radical acceptance. It could be a form of collective grieving. We should document everything. And while we do not condone anyone seeking revenge, we can leave everything on the table.

My only hope is that, if this is legitimate, that mine comes up as a non-abuser (There has been 0 abuse, but I'm sure they'll "find" something), and that they allow tickets for 2FA issues...

From what it sounds like, if we get moved to a separate server and need to log into it, I'm screwed because I can't log in outside of my already logged-in computer. In a perfect world, they'd allow tickets for non-abusers, but this ain't a perfect world and the likelihood of this actually happening is infinitesimally small.

You dont have to have 2FA issues, if I want to login they are sending me a conformation email that never arrives. That would be the esiest way for FBC to save their pennies - no one can login to withdraw.

I used to own an account on this platform but i lost it due to losing the bitcoin address which served as my only login credentials, I also did not remember the email address i submitted as a alternative and neither did I even remember my password. But the actually saved me because if I still had access, maybe now I will be among the potential victims this potential rugpull.


For test purposes, a friend just tried signing up but said he did not get the verification email, I personally believe this will come later since he's signing up (potential victim) 😁, but for account recovery, especially an account with balance, I am not sure they will send any recovery email just to make sure they keep the money.

It does not matter if you have 2FA, a recovery email, or are currently logged in. The site is a ghost and will vanish at any moment. Everyone is now completely dependent on the administrators to manually provide a withdrawal method.
Without KYC, the only filter they might use is to prioritize VIPs, but that is just speculation.

[Petteko]

tbh i doubt anyone is getting their btc back if they are already making these kinds of excuses about abusers, once a site starts throwing smoke grenades like this it usually means the coffers are empty or they are just stalling for time while they move the coins to mixers, i would be curious to see if any high rank users actually get paid because if they stiff the legendary and hero members then you know the project is totally dead

Who is on the naughty list. 

Who is a legit user. 



On a more serious tone:

Could we at least make a census of what is the average loss?

How much BTC is being held hostage from the average user?

[id5000]

In fact,  for about 4 years I had a 24x7 stream that showed how I was using it to the ever living hell out of them and I made a pile off it   Then I opensourced it once it became clear that TheQuack just wasnt going to straighten out his utterly disgusting behavior here in these forums towards not only myself,  but literally anyone he interacted with.  Constantly saying people "lie" about whatever the subject was or some bullshit like that LMFAO.  Before I released the code,  I withdrew everything since I had already made enough anyway and knew that the site wouldnt last long after that and withdrawals would become either non-existant or no longer automated.  8 months after release,  all automated withdrawals ceased.

Can you explain what the vulnerability of freebitco.in actually was? How exactly were you able to make so much money when their system is designed to drain money from users? Please explain the mechanism of the vulnerability and how your bot managed to bypass their system - something that 50 million users were unable to do - since there is no longer any way to review your streams because your DLive channel has been removed - https://dlive.tv/btctrading

I'm calling bullshit on this dude, he talks like a low IQ moron, and the description of his "bot" is mostly nonsense.

FBC has already admitted ON ITS OWN that this was exactly what happened.  LMFAO.  Believe what you want.  There is no convincing those to stupid to understand in the first place.  And yes,  it's been removed for many years now.  I exited LONG LONG ago right after I opensourced it all as I had made enough.  Those that watched it can attest on their own that it's balance was constantly at or near 20BTC all the time for a reason.  You can even see it for yourself,  you can see the historical monthly betting amounts where people were betting 200, 300, even 800BTC at some points in the past to win their stupid betting contents (which was never the goal,  that thing was stupid and got in the way more than it helped anything really,  but my account often times showed up there a LOT as did others after the release).
It was absolutely no coincidence that 8 months after I released it,  withdrawals slowly become partially manual, mostly manual, completely manual,  and then stopped all together.  I got off the train before it went off the cliff.  Sounds like some of you didnt.  Thats to bad,  but life isnt fair.  Life is brutal.  It'll beat you to the ground and keep you there permanently if you let it (such as sticking your head in the sand and not believing the answer right in front of your face lol).  FBC likes to call it "fraud" but there was nothing "fraudulent" about any of it.  Everything was done within their own rules.  They simply got outsmarted and they call that "fraud".  It's absolutely no different than getting banned from a brick and mortar for counting cards in blackjack.  Nothing fraudulent happened since all the rules were followed by the player,  the player simply outsmarted the casino and yet the casino labels them as a "fraudster" for simply being smarter than them.  Classic casino behavior.

- My conclusion:

[pawanjain]

When it comes to any platform scamming, they do not know who are the legendary and who are the hero members, because we are just all the same as the newbies, no casino will selectively scam newbies and don't scam the high ranking members of this forum as well, what for? They will still end up getting alot of negative tags from the high ranking members because here, we supports ourselves.

Like I've said multiple times on this thread, it's best for everyone who has a balance on freebitco to start learning how to forget about it and move on because from all indications, I'm also not expecting the management of this site to keep to their word of allowing users withdraw their money back, it will be absolutely unlikely.

It has become very obvious now that freebitco.in has scammed their users and won't be returning their money back to them.
Just wondering though if anyone on this forum is actually have any balance on freebitco.in
It would be quite shocking, if after all this time one of the forum users, especially the old timers, still get their balance stuck on the site.

[Petteko]

When it comes to any platform scamming, they do not know who are the legendary and who are the hero members, because we are just all the same as the newbies, no casino will selectively scam newbies and don't scam the high ranking members of this forum as well, what for? They will still end up getting alot of negative tags from the high ranking members because here, we supports ourselves.

Like I've said multiple times on this thread, it's best for everyone who has a balance on freebitco to start learning how to forget about it and move on because from all indications, I'm also not expecting the management of this site to keep to their word of allowing users withdraw their money back, it will be absolutely unlikely.

It has become very obvious now that freebitco.in has scammed their users and won't be returning their money back to them.
Just wondering though if anyone on this forum is actually have any balance on freebitco.in
It would be quite shocking, if after all this time one of the forum users, especially the old timers, still get their balance stuck on the site.

I am a old timer on the site, but I'd not been active in this forum.

I admit that I was dumb and did not catch up with all the signs and the situation from 2024.

When I realized this, I started making a series of withdrawals. Saved some.
When I finally tried to make larger withdrawals, the balance got on pending. I was exactly one week late this year, when all withdrawals got on pending. I believe there should be many people like me that simply didn't care, wasn't on the forum or got distracted.

Overall, my loss amounts to a few thousand dollars.

[nexus72]

I still have the balance 0.5 BTC

[pawanjain]

I am a old timer on the site, but I'd not been active in this forum.

I admit that I was dumb and did not catch up with all the signs and the situation from 2024.

When I realized this, I started making a series of withdrawals. Saved some.
When I finally tried to make larger withdrawals, the balance got on pending. I was exactly one week late this year, when all withdrawals got on pending. I believe there should be many people like me that simply didn't care, wasn't on the forum or got distracted.

Overall, my loss amounts to a few thousand dollars.

But why did you put a series of withdrawals and not opt to withdraw all of it together ?
If you would have been lucky then you would have got your entire balance withdrawn.
Freebitco.in has been having these issues for almost 1.5 years, so there was a good amount of time to get it noticed.

[dwyane36]

I am a old timer on the site, but I'd not been active in this forum.

I admit that I was dumb and did not catch up with all the signs and the situation from 2024.

When I realized this, I started making a series of withdrawals. Saved some.
When I finally tried to make larger withdrawals, the balance got on pending. I was exactly one week late this year, when all withdrawals got on pending. I believe there should be many people like me that simply didn't care, wasn't on the forum or got distracted.

Overall, my loss amounts to a few thousand dollars.

Even if you haven't been active on the forum and haven't visited this thread since the problems on the freebitcoin site began, haven't you noticed anything strange on the site itself during this long period? It seems to me that any active user could have suspected something was wrong back when the freebitcoin team stopped holding the Lambo lottery draws.

[hosemary]

It seems to me that any active user could have suspected something was wrong back when the freebitcoin team stopped holding the Lambo lottery draws.

Many people probably haven't noticed freebitco have stopped holding lambo lotteries.
Since most people have zero chance or a very small chance of winning the lambo lottery, they just think that they haven't won the lottery.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

It seems to me that any active user could have suspected something was wrong back when the freebitcoin team stopped holding the Lambo lottery draws.

Many people probably haven't noticed freebitco have stopped holding lambo lotteries.
Since most people have zero chance or a very small chance of winning the lambo lottery, they just think that they haven't won the lottery.

Well for me, I have always had my doubts about the lambo lottery being legit cus never have any one ever announced him or her self any where online as a winner of the lambo lottery, I feel that there were never real winners of this contest and that what they do is at the end of the contest, they create a new wallet, move the bitcoin equivalent of the dollar value of the lambo to the wallet, then share the transaction hash with the community claiming they have paid the winner of the lambo lottery contest, meanwhile they simply paid their own self.

I may be wrong though, but this is what I've always thought and I think it has a very big chance of being what has been going on this while.

[hosemary]

I may be wrong though, but this is what I've always thought and I think it has a very big chance of being what has been going on this while.

Their lambo lottery was provably fair and they also published the tickets list before the lottery.
Of course, they could add fake tickets to the pool and decrease the chance of a real person winning the lambo.

[Synchronice]

When you login to Freebitco and then hover your mouse over More button, why does it still list Dplay and Club Riches? I can't visit these websites, they are shut down. It takes only a few minutes to edit that thing on website. Why wouldn't someone edit that? Such an inattentiveness doesn't make sense to me.
Does anybody know how many people had Bitcoin deposit on Freebitco? They had up to 4% APY on Bitcoin deposits, which was a great offer, especially from a website that had such a huge trust in the community. I would love to know (if possible of course) how many Bitcoins were deposited on Freebitco just to get 4% APY and how many of them are withdrawn? I hope that they didn't also scam those who were getting APY from Freebitco.

[dwyane36]

I may be wrong though, but this is what I've always thought and I think it has a very big chance of being what has been going on this while.

Their lambo lottery was provably fair and they also published the tickets list before the lottery.
Of course, they could add fake tickets to the pool and decrease the chance of a real person winning the lambo.

To be honest, I didn’t pay much attention to the ticket counter in the Lambo lottery rounds in previous years, especially since a few users in this thread confirmed that they had won the Lambo lottery. This made it seem that the lottery was conducted fairly.
However, in the last few rounds, I noticed that the number of tickets can change unnaturally fast in a very short period of time before the end of the round, which, to put it mildly, raised my suspicions.

[Hispo]

I still have the balance 0.5 BTC

Very sorry for you man.
I would not even know what to do if I was you, all you can do is pray for these people not to consider you to be an abuser of their system. Would you care to share how you manage to accumulate such big amount of money on your account and why you decided to keep all of it on there instead of withdrawing it to your personal wallet?

It must be very painful to see half Bitcoin getting stripped from you because you decided to trust the wrong people with your money...
Have you tried to withdraw it all already or you are just waiting to see whether they run with your money or give some of it back to you?

[Haunebu]

It's really odd seeing some naive people in this thread still thinking that FBC may suddenly change their minds and reimburse all the victims properly. It would take a proper miracle for something like that to happen especially in this economy.

Sad to see them turn into a scam site and it definitely looks like they will run for the hills at any moment now. Smh!

[winspiral]

I just notice one thing...if FBC is closed ...Bitcoin Forum will be out of messages lol ...