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Yes, because the bot can last for too long, most of the time the drawdown is about 7 to 10 BTC, very rare it will reach 15 - 18 BTC (which will die soon after less than 20-30 losing rounds more because of max 20BTC win). Earning is about 1.5 BTC per 200-230 hours. So if you x100 to have 100 instances running at the same time => 150 BTC, but not all will success then you have to stop loss like at 7 BTC before losing too much but only few got threw away, the remaining 90+ instances will recover it fast given that big win per instance.
So does that mean you need to have 15–18 BTC on your account, or can this bot abuse the system while having only 100–1000 satoshis?
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December 21, 2025, 12:00:05 PM Last edit: December 21, 2025, 12:15:57 PM by docthusinh |
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Yes, because the bot can last for too long, most of the time the drawdown is about 7 to 10 BTC, very rare it will reach 15 - 18 BTC (which will die soon after less than 20-30 losing rounds more because of max 20BTC win). Earning is about 1.5 BTC per 200-230 hours. So if you x100 to have 100 instances running at the same time => 150 BTC, but not all will success then you have to stop loss like at 7 BTC before losing too much but only few got threw away, the remaining 90+ instances will recover it fast given that big win per instance.
So does that mean you need to have 15–18 BTC on your account, or can this bot abuse the system while having only 100–1000 satoshis? Can't win anything with that small amount, for said method/pattern, out of 1,000,000 bets, about 450,000 (45%) draw down is about 7500 satoshi, remaining 55% can be anywhere from 7500 satoshi to 20BTC (49% safe zone --- below 7 BTC, 1% will be in danger zone --- over 7 to 20 BTC). My account did 45,500,000 bets before getting that 1.8 BTC drawdown (safest adjustment of bet sizes -- smalled possible) and lost all won brought over from Bitdice and here back to them, that's all I had but for people with ability to throw away 20BTC...they can last much longer few hundred million bets is easy. BTW: Only bot to claim free roll every hour can be called abuse, for dice bot, it cost money trying to beat the system. The house won money from gamblers and called they are in bad luck, go cure gambling addict problem but once player can win the house, it's unfair to call it's abuse.
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Can't win anything with that small amount, for said method/pattern, out of 1,000,000 bets, about 450,000 (45%) draw down is about 7500 satoshi, remaining 55% can be anywhere from 7500 satoshi to 20BTC (49% safe zone --- below 7 BTC, 1% will be in danger zone --- over 7 to 20 BTC). My account did 45,500,000 bets before getting that 1.8 BTC drawdown (safest adjustment of bet sizes -- smalled possible) and lost all won brought over from Bitdice and here back to them, that's all I had but for people with ability to throw away 20BTC...they can last much longer few hundred million bets is easy.
Can you explain how it’s even possible to make 1 million bets starting with only 1,000 satoshis? That’s unrealistic given their house edge, at any multiplier
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Can't win anything with that small amount, for said method/pattern, out of 1,000,000 bets, about 450,000 (45%) draw down is about 7500 satoshi, remaining 55% can be anywhere from 7500 satoshi to 20BTC (49% safe zone --- below 7 BTC, 1% will be in danger zone --- over 7 to 20 BTC). My account did 45,500,000 bets before getting that 1.8 BTC drawdown (safest adjustment of bet sizes -- smalled possible) and lost all won brought over from Bitdice and here back to them, that's all I had but for people with ability to throw away 20BTC...they can last much longer few hundred million bets is easy.
Can you explain how it’s even possible to make 1 million bets starting with only 1,000 satoshis? That’s unrealistic given their house edge, at any multiplier Start witth 1 satoshi bet size, not 1000 bankroll (up to 20 BTC bankroll) , "unrealistic" => both Bitdice and Freebitco under estimated the math -> bankrupt. Freebitco down play the problem which was addressed by Justme in 2019-2020 (as I've witnessed the whole community here sided with them and attacked Justme too, whoever did that and lost money on the site now then THEY DESERVED! Should stay the same side with the players not the rich house). As for Freebitco, they would just simply reduce max win from 20BTC to some lower like 5BTC or even 2BTC same as other site with 1% edge. They under-estimated that with 5% house edge, no one can beat the system, also because you don't know how, it doesn't mean no solution, not perfect, but doable in a predictable manner, also with small luck. Because the win is so small, average like 16 satoshis per bet, so a 24/7 running bot, use a VPS with short ping delay to the site and it will run extremely fast (Amazon EC2 --> 18 bets/second)
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My account did 45,500,000 bets before getting that 1.8 BTC drawdown
In which year did you incur a loss of 1.8 BTC? After that, did you deposit anything on freebitco.in? As of now, does freebitco.in owe you anything?
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I knew this will happen, abuse of Free hourly rolls was not the primary issue. The main issue is that there was a method to beat the dice game even at 5% edge.
In am sure there is no working strategy to beat the house in the long run. The house always guarantees that the casino makes profit. Whatever you do, you will lose all your balance at one point. What found interesting for myself personally and for many others, I think, too is that now there's a hope, again, that we'll get our money:
I also hope they will process withdrawals, but note that they have broken their promises many times. They haven't processed withdrawals for around 5 months.
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My account did 45,500,000 bets before getting that 1.8 BTC drawdown
In which year did you incur a loss of 1.8 BTC? After that, did you deposit anything on freebitco.in? As of now, does freebitco.in owe you anything? End of 2020, August or something. After that no, because I had not much capital as mentioned, start with 1 LTC with Bitdice. Left the dice things because of too much risk, later I wanted to go back with Bitdice but it was gone, looked around but no site met the requirement: 1 satoshi starting bet, highest max win...
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End of 2020, August or something. After that no, because I had not much capital as mentioned, start with 1 LTC with Bitdice. Left the dice things because of too much risk, later I wanted to go back with Bitdice but it was gone, looked around but no site met the requirement: 1 satoshi starting bet, highest max win...
When your bot was placing bets, did you check the server seed before the bet and after the bet? Was the system fair or not? Do you know how many times the number 10,000 came up out of 45,500,000 bets?
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I knew this will happen, abuse of Free hourly rolls was not the primary issue. The main issue is that there was a method to beat the dice game even at 5% edge.
In am sure there is no working strategy to beat the house in the long run. The house always guarantees that the casino makes profit. Whatever you do, you will lose all your balance at one point. What found interesting for myself personally and for many others, I think, too is that now there's a hope, again, that we'll get our money:
I also hope they will process withdrawals, but note that they have broken their promises many times. They haven't processed withdrawals for around 5 months. Multi accounts will work with method I mentioned, 100x of them. The trick is to drag it as long as possible, and cut loss like trading, lose all at one point but try to drag it instead of within 24h...make it 1 year. Also, muti account, 5% house edge so 100 accounts all with the same strat/algo, you would only lose 5 (=5% edge), there is 95 left to rekt and recover losses from that 5. "The house always guarantees that the casino makes profit" by using high house edge (5%) but it was not enough because of max win 20BTC...it can help to drag the game longer. End of 2020, August or something. After that no, because I had not much capital as mentioned, start with 1 LTC with Bitdice. Left the dice things because of too much risk, later I wanted to go back with Bitdice but it was gone, looked around but no site met the requirement: 1 satoshi starting bet, highest max win...
When your bot was placing bets, did you check the server seed before the bet and after the bet? Was the system fair or not? Do you know how many times the number 10,000 came up out of 45,500,000 bets? Fair as I can say, I even provided my own client seed with whatever char/digit I like. I don't check every bet placed, only randomly and stop it after knowing it was fair. I don't check 10,000 but did 8888, sometime it was less than 5000 rounds, other time more than 20000 rounds before seeing one, I didn't do it for all 45mil...to much data to save (to a txt file) that would slow down my bot.
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Fair as I can say, I even provided my own client seed with whatever char/digit I like. I don't check every bet placed, only randomly and stop it after knowing it was fair. I don't check 10,000 but did 8888, sometime it was less than 5000 rounds, other time more than 20000 rounds before seeing one, I didn't do it for all 45mil...to much data to save (to a txt file) that would slow down my bot.
All the data should have been saved and uploaded to Google Drive so that anyone interested could conduct their own research. Twenty bets take up a maximum of 6 KB, so for 45,500,000 bets a free Google Drive account would have been sufficient. The total size would be just over 13 GB (45,000,000 bets / 20 = 2,275,000 sheets * 6 KB = 13,650,000 KB / 1024 = 13,330 MB / 1024 = 13.017 GB)
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Multi accounts will work with method I mentioned, 100x of them. The trick is to drag it as long as possible, and cut loss like trading, lose all at one point but try to drag it instead of within 24h...make it 1 year. Also, muti account, 5% house edge so 100 accounts all with the same strat/algo, you would only lose 5 (=5% edge), there is 95 left to rekt and recover losses from that 5.
NO. Every wager you make is independent from others. So, it doesn't matter whether you make the wager with your first account or your 100th account. Forget about every strategy you have heard so far. As I said, it's guaranteed that the casino makes profit in the long run. A player may be lucky and win in the short run, but that doesn't mean the casino will not make profit.
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Freebitco is a scam it always has been. I hope WETSUIT gets raped in jail and dies of cancer
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So, as you rightly said, people shouldn't deposit any longer on the site.
It may be worth mentioning that freebitco no longer shows the deposit address to users and if you click deposit button, you will see a message regarding freebitco's closure, instead. Unless someone use the old addresses without clicking the "deposit" button, there is no way to send funds to freebitco. Wow! I didn't know about this. Thank you! I went to the site to check it and it's true, there's a message about their shutting down. What found interesting for myself personally and for many others, I think, too is that now there's a hope, again, that we'll get our money:  I think it's great news not only because of the money, but also because people many of us thought were bad now decide to shut down their site with dignity. (I'm changing my feedback to neutral right away). Lol, you might want to hold your horses cowboy, there is still an excellent chance nobody sees their money. The past 6 months have been nothing but lies, empty promises and deceit. I won't believe these mother fuckers will do the right thing until that Bitcoin hits my wallet.
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Lol, you might want to hold your horses cowboy, there is still an excellent chance nobody sees their money. The past 6 months have been nothing but lies, empty promises and deceit. I won't believe these mother fuckers will do the right thing until that Bitcoin hits my wallet.
Do you also have a large amount stuck on freebitco.in? Did you make a recording and take screenshots before they shut the site down? These bastards might come up with a new story after the New Year — that they "lost" the user database and balances
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Multi accounts will work with method I mentioned, 100x of them. The trick is to drag it as long as possible, and cut loss like trading, lose all at one point but try to drag it instead of within 24h...make it 1 year. Also, muti account, 5% house edge so 100 accounts all with the same strat/algo, you would only lose 5 (=5% edge), there is 95 left to rekt and recover losses from that 5.
NO. Every wager you make is independent from others. So, it doesn't matter whether you make the wager with your first account or your 100th account. Forget about every strategy you have heard so far. As I said, it's guaranteed that the casino makes profit in the long run. A player may be lucky and win in the short run, but that doesn't mean the casino will not make profit. Not only the wagering calculation is different for different accounts, but in most of the sites, making multiple accounts isn't allowed and if they got caught, chances are that all the accounts may be blocked and the money would be held by the casino. Multiple accounts usually comes under cheating in the casinos and they strictly prohibits them. Even then if someone is able to get away with multiple accounts, he / she still can't withdrawal at freebitco as they don't process withdrawals since long time.
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Lol, you might want to hold your horses cowboy, there is still an excellent chance nobody sees their money. The past 6 months have been nothing but lies, empty promises and deceit. I won't believe these mother fuckers will do the right thing until that Bitcoin hits my wallet.
Do you also have a large amount stuck on freebitco.in? Did you make a recording and take screenshots before they shut the site down? These bastards might come up with a new story after the New Year — that they "lost" the user database and balances I withdrew most of mine last year, but I still have some pending withdrawal (around $500 worth). I've not screenshotted yet (site is still up and withdrawal still showing as pending + my balance showing as correct), but maybe I will, I don't believe we will see our Bitcoin, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
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I withdrew most of mine last year, but I still have some pending withdrawal (around $500 worth). I've not screenshotted yet (site is still up and withdrawal still showing as pending + my balance showing as correct), but maybe I will, I don't believe we will see our Bitcoin, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
After what they have done over the months and completely lost trust of their most loyal users, I perfectly understand why you believe that you may never see the BTC again. In fact I am one of the folks who believes that the good years of FreeBitco.in are way past us. If they were committed in returning the funds to the users, they should have made updates on what is going on and what they do plan to do several months back in order to calm down the users by the never did. This means that they don't even care about what happens next. Typical move by exit scammers.
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Lol, you might want to hold your horses cowboy, there is still an excellent chance nobody sees their money. The past 6 months have been nothing but lies, empty promises and deceit. I won't believe these mother fuckers will do the right thing until that Bitcoin hits my wallet.
There is a good chance they would be only trying to win some time with these promises of refunding all gambler their money, but in the end that is something we will know when January 2026 is here. If their intention is keeping as much Bitcoin as possible from their former clients and gamblers, then they will claim the majority of them were abusers of their system and they are not entitled to receive any refund from them. All we can do is observe and continue our research on who is behind all this mess, getting their names and addresses, in the case they are just throwing smoke granates at us so they can get further away from justice. Would you care to share how much money they owe you? I assume it is more than a couple of hundreds of dollars in Bitcoin, is it?
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Lol, you might want to hold your horses cowboy, there is still an excellent chance nobody sees their money. The past 6 months have been nothing but lies, empty promises and deceit. I won't believe these mother fuckers will do the right thing until that Bitcoin hits my wallet.
There is a good chance they would be only trying to win some time with these promises of refunding all gambler their money, but in the end that is something we will know when January 2026 is here. If their intention is keeping as much Bitcoin as possible from their former clients and gamblers, then they will claim the majority of them were abusers of their system and they are not entitled to receive any refund from them. All we can do is observe and continue our research on who is behind all this mess, getting their names and addresses, in the case they are just throwing smoke granates at us so they can get further away from justice. Would you care to share how much money they owe you? I assume it is more than a couple of hundreds of dollars in Bitcoin, is it? I have around $500 pending. Last year I had 5 figures, but I got into a debate/argument with Quinn about their contingency plan should anything happen to him and wetsuit. He was very cagey and arrogant about it, and at that point I lost all confidence and withdraw the vast amount from there immediately. I've been a member with these guys for over a decade and have over 8,000 referrals, so this used to be a big earner for me, it's a real shame it's come to this.
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Lol, you might want to hold your horses cowboy, there is still an excellent chance nobody sees their money. The past 6 months have been nothing but lies, empty promises and deceit. I won't believe these mother fuckers will do the right thing until that Bitcoin hits my wallet.
There is a good chance they would be only trying to win some time with these promises of refunding all gambler their money, but in the end that is something we will know when January 2026 is here. If their intention is keeping as much Bitcoin as possible from their former clients and gamblers, then they will claim the majority of them were abusers of their system and they are not entitled to receive any refund from them. All we can do is observe and continue our research on who is behind all this mess, getting their names and addresses, in the case they are just throwing smoke granates at us so they can get further away from justice. At this point, anyone that has a balance on their freebitco account is completely at the mercy of the management of the platform, they can say one thing now and end up doing another, afterall, they won't be the first and neither are they likely going to be the last. Betnomo (if I still remember the name well) did exactly this same thing, disappearing with funds running into tens of millions of dollars (if not hundreds actually) belonging to their clients, and months later, they came on this forum and started a refund thread claiming they have come back to refund all those they stole from, after some months of running from pillar to post, they updated the thread saying every one that lost money by the reason of their action have been refunded, meanwhile in reality, no body was refunded a penny, they only came to play with their users emotion and then left never to return again till this day.
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