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[DrBeer]

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NOBDDY KNOWS THE OWNER or even the place of residence. Some fake names are useless, incl. fake emails. I´m going to file legal complaint to The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). - EVERYBODY WITH THE SAME PROBLEM SHOULD.

A useful addition to the basic information about fraud, refusal to withdraw funds, etc. would be to indicate the Binance service and its addresses, which are used to withdraw and essentially steal players' money. I think Binance can help and provide additional useful information. Binance does not need another scandal and another stain of “bad connections.”

[dwyane36]

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NOBDDY KNOWS THE OWNER or even the place of residence. Some fake names are useless, incl. fake emails. I´m going to file legal complaint to The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). - EVERYBODY WITH THE SAME PROBLEM SHOULD.

A useful addition to the basic information about fraud, refusal to withdraw funds, etc. would be to indicate the Binance service and its addresses, which are used to withdraw and essentially steal players' money. I think Binance can help and provide additional useful information. Binance does not need another scandal and another stain of “bad connections.”

Well, if the freebitcoin team initially concealed their identities using fake data, then they could have been using a Binance account with fake KYC information all along. In that case, Binance is unlikely to be of any help in providing information about them. Moreover, if Binance truly wanted to assist, it would have responded to the requests of the affected users long ago.

[arwin100]

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NOBDDY KNOWS THE OWNER or even the place of residence. Some fake names are useless, incl. fake emails. I´m going to file legal complaint to The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). - EVERYBODY WITH THE SAME PROBLEM SHOULD.

A useful addition to the basic information about fraud, refusal to withdraw funds, etc. would be to indicate the Binance service and its addresses, which are used to withdraw and essentially steal players' money. I think Binance can help and provide additional useful information. Binance does not need another scandal and another stain of “bad connections.”

Well, if the freebitcoin team initially concealed their identities using fake data, then they could have been using a Binance account with fake KYC information all along. In that case, Binance is unlikely to be of any help in providing information about them. Moreover, if Binance truly wanted to assist, it would have responded to the requests of the affected users long ago.

Hard to speculate something like that since Binance would be in trouble again if find out that they are been used by criminals to be their exit point with their money scammed from people.

I think if people would just sue them and authorities will do an investigation they might track everything out and maybe they can put those people behind this casino in jail.

If authorities will ask Binance to cooperate and give those necessary data's they ask there's good chance that they comply.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

From what I can see, there are already initiatives here to report them to the authorities. Even though they might have been very careful not to be found, it seems to me that the process to take down the site once and for all has begun (as it has already been blocked in some countries). At least the day will come when they will no longer be able to receive deposits without processing withdrawals.

[DrBeer]

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NOBDDY KNOWS THE OWNER or even the place of residence. Some fake names are useless, incl. fake emails. I´m going to file legal complaint to The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). - EVERYBODY WITH THE SAME PROBLEM SHOULD.

A useful addition to the basic information about fraud, refusal to withdraw funds, etc. would be to indicate the Binance service and its addresses, which are used to withdraw and essentially steal players' money. I think Binance can help and provide additional useful information. Binance does not need another scandal and another stain of “bad connections.”

Well, if the freebitcoin team initially concealed their identities using fake data, then they could have been using a Binance account with fake KYC information all along. In that case, Binance is unlikely to be of any help in providing information about them. Moreover, if Binance truly wanted to assist, it would have responded to the requests of the affected users long ago.

Considering that it is not difficult to pass KYC with a fake identity or by paying someone to do it, I am more than sure that Binance accounts will not have any documentary connection with the real owners of FreeBitco.in

But this is still not good for Binance, or for the very idea of KYC and its implementation. So, they'll find a homeless person who provided their documents and face for identification, and then what? They got their “bonus” and have long forgotten about this case.
The only useful option, if there are funds left in FreeBitco.in accounts on Binance, is to block them.

[PendingForever]

Anyone who has lost bitcoins or has their funds held by Freebitco.in with no payout — nothing will be solved just by talking on forums. I urge all victims to formally report the issue at https://www.ic3.gov/ - The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). No one on the internet is truly anonymous. The more of us who file a report, the better.

If someone has a binance account, they can also report fraud there. If we are lucky they might lock their funds... I doubt it but desperate times.

[Kavelj22]

From what I can see, there are already initiatives here to report them to the authorities. Even though they might have been very careful not to be found, it seems to me that the process to take down the site once and for all has begun (as it has already been blocked in some countries). At least the day will come when they will no longer be able to receive deposits without processing withdrawals.

This should help lost users to recover their funds in another long process, but at least to stop the scam flow and alert other legal bodies to take actions anywhere in the world. The countries who banned freebitco had surely received reports from many citizens or most probably from legal institutions.

It also becomes a major problem that new users can find the website through various search channel because i don't see promotional campaigns anywhere in the internet, but negative reviews everywhere. Who are those new victims and how they found the website? I think it's a major question to report the answer to authorities that should also take action against the platforms that help promote the website.

[DrBeer]

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Hard to speculate something like that since Binance would be in trouble again if find out that they are been used by criminals to be their exit point with their money scammed from people.

I think if people would just sue them and authorities will do an investigation they might track everything out and maybe they can put those people behind this casino in jail.

If authorities will ask Binance to cooperate and give those necessary data's they ask there's good chance that they comply.

If you look at how money is withdrawn from FreeBitco.in, you can see that mixers are involved, which “break the link” between users' funds and the final recipient. And in this situation, Binance will calmly say that it has no evidence of a connection between the scammers' accounts and the accounts on the Binance exchange.

[Slow death]

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NOBDDY KNOWS THE OWNER or even the place of residence. Some fake names are useless, incl. fake emails. I´m going to file legal complaint to The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3). - EVERYBODY WITH THE SAME PROBLEM SHOULD.

A useful addition to the basic information about fraud, refusal to withdraw funds, etc. would be to indicate the Binance service and its addresses, which are used to withdraw and essentially steal players' money. I think Binance can help and provide additional useful information. Binance does not need another scandal and another stain of “bad connections.”

Well, if the freebitcoin team initially concealed their identities using fake data, then they could have been using a Binance account with fake KYC information all along. In that case, Binance is unlikely to be of any help in providing information about them. Moreover, if Binance truly wanted to assist, it would have responded to the requests of the affected users long ago.

Considering that it is not difficult to pass KYC with a fake identity or by paying someone to do it, I am more than sure that Binance accounts will not have any documentary connection with the real owners of FreeBitco.in

But this is still not good for Binance, or for the very idea of KYC and its implementation. So, they'll find a homeless person who provided their documents and face for identification, and then what? They got their “bonus” and have long forgotten about this case.
The only useful option, if there are funds left in FreeBitco.in accounts on Binance, is to block them.

Binance's KYC (Know Your Customer) requires people to provide their ID and simultaneously go through a facial scanner that compares their face to the photo on their ID. I believe the data provided by the owners of FreeBitco.in to Binance is accurate, and if people living in the US report the case to court and hire a good lawyer, it would be possible for the court to order Binance to provide real data on the owners of FreeBitco.in, and the police could arrest them. Unfortunately, people are only complaining online because the money they were robbed, compared to the money they would spend on a lawyer, is not worth it.

[Hispo]

From what I can see, there are already initiatives here to report them to the authorities. Even though they might have been very careful not to be found, it seems to me that the process to take down the site once and for all has begun (as it has already been blocked in some countries). At least the day will come when they will no longer be able to receive deposits without processing withdrawals.

Could you still access to this website from your country? Because there were some people in this thread a while ago who thought the site was taken down, but it was temporary.

When I have some time I will try to see if I can access from here (Venezuela).

Also, even if Freebitcoin was take down, it would only prevent more people from getting scammed, but there have thousands who have already been defrauded, and there is little chance for authorities to get these people and recover all those stolen Bitcoins.

[rixeke5865]

ACMA knows who the people behind Freebitco are, as this information is already in their public documents. They just can’t reveal the names for privacy reasons. Anyone claiming that no one knows, or that there’s no way to find out who is behind Freebitco, might be trying to discourage users from filing complaints or to make them simply accept that they were scammed.

https://www.acma.gov.au/publications/2024-12/instruction/formal-warning-fbc-bv-freebitcoin

[GinnyBanzz]

ACMA knows who the people behind Freebitco are, as this information is already in their public documents. They just can’t reveal the names for privacy reasons. Anyone claiming that no one knows, or that there’s no way to find out who is behind Freebitco, might be trying to discourage users from filing complaints or to make them simply accept that they were scammed.

https://www.acma.gov.au/publications/2024-12/instruction/formal-warning-fbc-bv-freebitcoin

I'm not sure about that.

If you go to the Curacao companies house website, you can see that FBC BV (company who own the website) have their directors listed as a shadow company, this shadow company then has their directors listed as two dutch guys including him:

https://www.triplea.law/attorneys-bokkes/

I expect the ACMA letter is addresses to both him and the other guy from the shadow company. They are paid to keep the actual owners identities secret.

[Synchronice]

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I'm very confident that Freebitco didn't get sold but there are problems inside the management. Recently, it also became clear that they had problem with authorities. I'm sure that their are in some kind of trouble and that's why we don't hear from them and there are so much delays and problems in processing of withdrawals.

Do you even know that this was (publicly acknowledged) an operation run by two men? Do you think the two of them had a fight 1+ year ago and everything went downhill from then on?

I wrote a long time ago that I believe the business has been sold, because there is no other way to explain why someone who used to solve problems in a few days can't solve them in more than a year. But if someone wants to believe in fairy tales, let them - maybe they'll come back tomorrow and give every player a really nice bonus

Yes, I know. I have never said that two of them had a fight a year ago but why don't you think that they were probably arrested? At least one of them? As it recently became known, Freebitco had problems with Netherlands authorities and they also recently got blocked in Germany at request of the German government authorities.

If the business got sold, why wouldn't they announce it? Why wouldn't any of them come to this forum? TheQuin was more or less active on this forum but since he posted a few weeks earlier in a signature campaign, before it got paused, he hasn't visited this forum till this day. It would also be in a new owner's interest to gain access to Freebitco's Bitcointalk account.
To my mind, Freebitco can't solve problems because TheQuin or wetsuit or both are in trouble (might be arrest, might be injury or might be something else).

[dwyane36]

From what I can see, there are already initiatives here to report them to the authorities. Even though they might have been very careful not to be found, it seems to me that the process to take down the site once and for all has begun (as it has already been blocked in some countries). At least the day will come when they will no longer be able to receive deposits without processing withdrawals.

Could you still access to this website from your country? Because there were some people in this thread a while ago who thought the site was taken down, but it was temporary.

When I have some time I will try to see if I can access from here (Venezuela).

Also, even if Freebitcoin was take down, it would only prevent more people from getting scammed, but there have thousands who have already been defrauded, and there is little chance for authorities to get these people and recover all those stolen Bitcoins.

I think that access to the freebitcoin site is still available in many countries. As far as I know, only regulators in Germany and the Netherlands restrict access, but probably only because freebitcoin didn't have the appropriate licenses, not because they turned out to be scammers.

[pawanjain]

Could you still access to this website from your country? Because there were some people in this thread a while ago who thought the site was taken down, but it was temporary.

When I have some time I will try to see if I can access from here (Venezuela).

Also, even if Freebitcoin was take down, it would only prevent more people from getting scammed, but there have thousands who have already been defrauded, and there is little chance for authorities to get these people and recover all those stolen Bitcoins.

I think that access to the freebitcoin site is still available in many countries. As far as I know, only regulators in Germany and the Netherlands restrict access, but probably only because freebitcoin didn't have the appropriate licenses, not because they turned out to be scammers.

The site was only temporarily down few months back for some countries when the domain was about to expire.
But later the site was up again and the domain was also renewed which shows they are still luring some people into depositing money into their site.
I guess many people who had large sum amount on the site already withdrawn their funds from the site.
I just hope nobody has any major chunk of their funds on the site for freebitco.in to prey on.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Could you still access to this website from your country? Because there were some people in this thread a while ago who thought the site was taken down, but it was temporary.

When I have some time I will try to see if I can access from here (Venezuela).

Also, even if Freebitcoin was take down, it would only prevent more people from getting scammed, but there have thousands who have already been defrauded, and there is little chance for authorities to get these people and recover all those stolen Bitcoins.

I think that access to the freebitcoin site is still available in many countries. As far as I know, only regulators in Germany and the Netherlands restrict access, but probably only because freebitcoin didn't have the appropriate licenses, not because they turned out to be scammers.

I haven't had anything there for a long time, and recently, when I saw this thread, I tried to access it a few times using Tor. Some times I could, and a couple of times I couldn't. I remember that the last time there was a message in German, so I guess Tor was connecting me to a German IP address and that's why I couldn't access it. But as things stand, it is only a matter of time before more countries join the blockade or the site disappears altogether.

[uneng]

If the business got sold, why wouldn't they announce it? Why wouldn't any of them come to this forum? TheQuin was more or less active on this forum but since he posted a few weeks earlier in a signature campaign, before it got paused, he hasn't visited this forum till this day. It would also be in a new owner's interest to gain access to Freebitco's Bitcointalk account.
To my mind, Freebitco can't solve problems because TheQuin or wetsuit or both are in trouble (might be arrest, might be injury or might be something else).

The fact they didn't disappear at once, suddenly, but went shady slowly, with less and less public appearances along the time, is a good indicator there wasn't an accident or misfortune. Everyone knew there was something wrong going on with the website, and even during those times, the manager was accessing the forum, so he could share what was the real situation with the users here, but he didn't.

They could have even announced the site would close the doors, so users could have a timeframe to cashout their funds without any turmoil, just like previous crypto casinos used to do, but they also didn't do that.

Coincidentally or not, things went downhill once Bitcoin entered the last bull season, so there might be a link there.

[noormcs5]

The fact they didn't disappear at once, suddenly, but went shady slowly, with less and less public appearances along the time, is a good indicator there wasn't an accident or misfortune. Everyone knew there was something wrong going on with the website, and even during those times, the manager was accessing the forum, so he could share what was the real situation with the users here, but he didn't.

They could have even announced the site would close the doors, so users could have a timeframe to cashout their funds without any turmoil, just like previous crypto casinos used to do, but they also didn't do that.

Coincidentally or not, things went downhill once Bitcoin entered the last bull season, so there might be a link there.

If the freebitco is involved in selective scam that includes denying big withdrawals and maybe allowing small withdrawals to keep their scam running, so how can we say that it is a good approach by the casino? Yeah maybe for them but for the gamblers it is a nightmare that you will never know that freebitco is a scam until you face the issues yourself.

That was the best thing to announce the closure of the site and let the people withdraw the funds, but it seems like the intention was never so clean, and even now they are operating suspiciously and scamming people.

[DrBeer]

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Binance's KYC (Know Your Customer) requires people to provide their ID and simultaneously go through a facial scanner that compares their face to the photo on their ID. I believe the data provided by the owners of FreeBitco.in to Binance is accurate, and if people living in the US report the case to court and hire a good lawyer, it would be possible for the court to order Binance to provide real data on the owners of FreeBitco.in, and the police could arrest them. Unfortunately, people are only complaining online because the money they were robbed, compared to the money they would spend on a lawyer, is not worth it.

1. I am confident that Binance, as a responsible and law-abiding exchange (after certain events), will certainly provide all KUS data as part of the investigation.
2. The question is, whose data will it be? I am more than sure that when planning the fraud, the owners of FreeBitco.in certainly took this scenario into account and used a front man, whom they simply paid money to work for 15 minutes.
 

[Hispo]

Could you still access to this website from your country? Because there were some people in this thread a while ago who thought the site was taken down, but it was temporary.

When I have some time I will try to see if I can access from here (Venezuela).

Also, even if Freebitcoin was take down, it would only prevent more people from getting scammed, but there have thousands who have already been defrauded, and there is little chance for authorities to get these people and recover all those stolen Bitcoins.

I think that access to the freebitcoin site is still available in many countries. As far as I know, only regulators in Germany and the Netherlands restrict access, but probably only because freebitcoin didn't have the appropriate licenses, not because they turned out to be scammers.

I haven't had anything there for a long time, and recently, when I saw this thread, I tried to access it a few times using Tor. Some times I could, and a couple of times I couldn't. I remember that the last time there was a message in German, so I guess Tor was connecting me to a German IP address and that's why I couldn't access it. But as things stand, it is only a matter of time before more countries join the blockade or the site disappears altogether.

It could be the government from Germany is already taking some measures in order to avoid their citizens getting scammed by this casino, it would make complete sense, considering how efficient Germany seems to be when comes to blocking access and seizing urls which go against European laws. It was pretty much what happened to chip mixer back in the day when they tracked down the owner of the mixer.

Anyways, only time will tell what is going to happen to this site and the hundreds of thousands of dollars which are withheld on the hands of these scammers... My bet is on their url getting seized in less than a year, if enough people complain to authorities.