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just curious if anybody here developed a calculator to know the odds after X BTC is placed on a certain selection as I remember someone in the past made something similar for onehash so would be great if there is a calculator for freebitcoin as well
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July 05, 2019, 12:46:34 AM |
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And thanks TheQuin, I finally understand the system now. I knew this is very different from fixed odds sportsbet, but this is very, very different! Imagine if only 1 guy bet on the team B and 100 guys bet on team A! What's the commission on these? (again sorry if already explained)
It doesn't matter how many people bet on an outcome as only the amount they bet affects the amount in the prize pool. The prize pool is the sum of the amount bet on all the losing outcomes minus our 5% commission. In the event that more than 95% was bet on the winning outcome then we just reduce the house edge. We have only had 2 events where more than 95% was bet on one outcome so far and in both cases the longshot bet ended up being the winner. (Lesson: always bet on an England batting collapse when they are heavy favourites to win. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) )
just curious if anybody here developed a calculator to know the odds after X BTC is placed on a certain selection as I remember someone in the past made something similar for onehash so would be great if there is a calculator for freebitcoin as well
I'm not sure what exactly you are trying to calculate. Can you give a bit more detail?
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July 05, 2019, 06:53:57 AM |
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It doesn't matter how many people bet on an outcome as only the amount they bet affects the amount in the prize pool. The prize pool is the sum of the amount bet on all the losing outcomes minus our 5% commission. In the event that more than 95% was bet on the winning outcome then we just reduce the house edge. We have only had 2 events where more than 95% was bet on one outcome so far and in both cases the longshot bet ended up being the winner. (Lesson: always bet on an England batting collapse when they are heavy favourites to win. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ) Thanks for that response. I think for me, when over 80% bet on a one team then for sure you know the value is nothing worth putting big money on. And if it's small money, it's only a tiny return for the small odds, so in the end it's pointless. Whoever won those two longshot bets must feel very happy they did. They probably won a lot more than if they bet somewhere else, huh!
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July 05, 2019, 08:12:04 AM |
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They probably won a lot more than if they bet somewhere else, huh!
That's the thing I have found interesting since we started doing this. There is often a big disparity in the fixed odds bookers pricing and what our customers bet on. We often have some very good value bets available.
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July 05, 2019, 03:11:05 PM |
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Well, that is the good part about the betting here, the long shots have a higher odd chance here than anywhere else. I know in normal cases the winner is getting less than anticipated and odds may not be great for the winner in many cases but that comes with a reward too with the low chance winning option, so you give up from the favorites odds but you gain from the not favorite teams side.
There are of course still some cases where its indecisive who will win and those are my favorites, like two teams (or two any option since freebitcoin doesn't only offer sports) who are so close to each other that you don't know which one will win, those are the greatest payers most commonly, since winners usually win and long shots are literally long shots but when two sides are too close to each other it makes it so much more rewarding when you pick the right one.
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July 05, 2019, 05:01:59 PM |
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I m not sure what exactly you are trying to calculate. Can you give a bit more detail?
lets take India vs Sri lanka as an example currently there are 0.1375 BTC in the pool odds are : India 1.07 Sri Lanka 6.55 Tie : 34.31 let's say I want to bet 0.02 BTC on Tie , such calculator can do the math and tell me how my bet will affect the odds so it will tell me if I place the bet how it will change the odds for all of the selections and since onehash had one I guess freebitcoin can have one as well
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July 05, 2019, 05:12:47 PM |
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I m not sure what exactly you are trying to calculate. Can you give a bit more detail?
lets take India vs Sri lanka as an example currently there are 0.1375 BTC in the pool odds are : India 1.07 Sri Lanka 6.55 Tie : 34.31 let's say I want to bet 0.02 BTC on Tie , such calculator can do the math and tell me how my bet will affect the odds so it will tell me if I place the bet how it will change the odds for all of the selections and since onehash had one I guess freebitcoin can have one as well What are you talking about? You're talking about the lottery or the dice game? Personally I'm looking for the maths for the dice game.
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July 05, 2019, 05:22:50 PM |
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What are you talking about? You're talking about the lottery or the dice game? Personally I'm looking for the maths for the dice game.
didn't I make it clear enough ? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) it's not about the lottery or dice , it's about the betting section that freebitcoin has so IDK if you don't know that you can bet on some sport events now with freebitcoin basically when you bet on a certain selection the odds for the selection will decrease and the odds for the other selections will increase so trying to find a way to know exactly how much the odds will be changed
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July 05, 2019, 06:35:07 PM |
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What are you talking about? You're talking about the lottery or the dice game? Personally I'm looking for the maths for the dice game.
didn't I make it clear enough ? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) it's not about the lottery or dice , it's about the betting section that freebitcoin has so IDK if you don't know that you can bet on some sport events now with freebitcoin basically when you bet on a certain selection the odds for the selection will decrease and the odds for the other selections will increase so trying to find a way to know exactly how much the odds will be changed Ok thank you ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I didn't realize there was a betting section on freebitcoin until now ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I never noticed it before
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~ I didn't realize there was a betting section on freebitcoin until now ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I never noticed it before Yes, there is a betting section on freebitco.in, and some times you can get a pretty attractive odds there, like today on ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP - AUSTRALIA VS SOUTH AFRICA. I bet on South Africa because I will get 5.17x multiplier in case of winning, while on other sites it's between 3x and 3.5x. It's ending in less than 3 hours, so you better hurry up if you want to use this chance. I'm not saying South Africa will win, it is no accident most people bet on Australia, but it's not that South Africa has no chances at all, so I think it's worth trying.
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July 06, 2019, 11:44:36 AM |
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~ I didn't realize there was a betting section on freebitcoin until now ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I never noticed it before Yes, there is a betting section on freebitco.in, and some times you can get a pretty attractive odds there, like today on ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP - AUSTRALIA VS SOUTH AFRICA. I bet on South Africa because I will get 5.17x multiplier in case of winning, while on other sites it's between 3x and 3.5x. It's ending in less than 3 hours, so you better hurry up if you want to use this chance. I'm not saying South Africa will win, it is no accident most people bet on Australia, but it's not that South Africa has no chances at all, so I think it's worth trying. thanks for this tip i just beted small amount on southAfrica ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Currently 46minutes left at 4.95 ODD. regards
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July 06, 2019, 01:56:00 PM |
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~ I didn't realize there was a betting section on freebitcoin until now ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I never noticed it before Yes, there is a betting section on freebitco.in, and some times you can get a pretty attractive odds there, like today on ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP - AUSTRALIA VS SOUTH AFRICA. I bet on South Africa because I will get 5.17x multiplier in case of winning, while on other sites it's between 3x and 3.5x. It's ending in less than 3 hours, so you better hurry up if you want to use this chance. I'm not saying South Africa will win, it is no accident most people bet on Australia, but it's not that South Africa has no chances at all, so I think it's worth trying. An easy one is FIFA WOMENS WORLD CUP - USA VS NETHERLANDS. The match is tomorrow. It's only 1.10 for United States, but it's easy money IMO. I put some bags of satoshis on US of course. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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July 06, 2019, 04:11:28 PM |
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~ I didn't realize there was a betting section on freebitcoin until now ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I never noticed it before Yes, there is a betting section on freebitco.in, and some times you can get a pretty attractive odds there, like today on ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP - AUSTRALIA VS SOUTH AFRICA. I bet on South Africa because I will get 5.17x multiplier in case of winning, while on other sites it's between 3x and 3.5x. It's ending in less than 3 hours, so you better hurry up if you want to use this chance. I'm not saying South Africa will win, it is no accident most people bet on Australia, but it's not that South Africa has no chances at all, so I think it's worth trying. You most certainly missed all the South African games played in the World cup so far, because they only won one or two games and they are second or third from the bottom in the rankings. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) You got to be crazy to place a bet on them, because they really suck. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Oh, well.... I take some outside chances on some of these bets too, just on the off chance that these teams or individuals might have a great day and end up winning something. I even bet on some of the stuff, I have no clue... so I just follow the majority. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Where are the eSPORTS? <StarCraft tournaments?>
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You most certainly missed all the South African games played in the World cup so far, because they only won one or two games and they are second or third from the bottom in the rankings. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) You got to be crazy to place a bet on them, because they really suck. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You missed the current live score. Sportsbooks are giving South Africa a ~86.5% probability of winning live in play at the moment. Maybe not so crazy now ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Yeah, having a calculator like that would make a huge difference. I mean we only get to find out how much we change the odds after we make the bets, however thanks to something like that we can get to see it before we make the bet and can calculate if it worth it or not, sometimes it makes it like not worth it at all and you are risking money for something you think not worth the risk for, so if we can get that back then we could totally use it.
However, do not miss out on the fact that even if we get something like that, someone can bet after you and change the whole thing once again, so you would be changing the bet and know it before you bet but then an hour later someone can come in and make a bet that changes your odds all the same so you are back to where you are started not knowing what odd you are betting on.
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July 06, 2019, 07:10:11 PM |
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You missed the current live score. Sportsbooks are giving South Africa a ~86.5% probability of winning live in play at the moment. Maybe not so crazy now ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I've not done it any time recently but I used to do esports live betting like that and would sell the bet at that point when the odds swing to its favour mid match. Even if you lose then, you already made a profit and its nice when you cant watch the entire match to hedge like that. Sadly that site disappeared and did not return customer funds, just as well I was not active at that point ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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~ I didn't realize there was a betting section on freebitcoin until now ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I never noticed it before Yes, there is a betting section on freebitco.in, and some times you can get a pretty attractive odds there, like today on ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP - AUSTRALIA VS SOUTH AFRICA. I bet on South Africa because I will get 5.17x multiplier in case of winning, while on other sites it's between 3x and 3.5x. It's ending in less than 3 hours, so you better hurry up if you want to use this chance. I'm not saying South Africa will win, it is no accident most people bet on Australia, but it's not that South Africa has no chances at all, so I think it's worth trying. An easy one is FIFA WOMENS WORLD CUP - USA VS NETHERLANDS. The match is tomorrow. It's only 1.10 for United States, but it's easy money IMO. I put some bags of satoshis on US of course. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) There is another easy one tomorrow : COPA AMERICA - BRAZIL VS PERU 1.06 for Brazil LOL ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's a small odd... 6%. Do you think the Risk/Reward ratio worths it?
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However, do not miss out on the fact that even if we get something like that, someone can bet after you and change the whole thing once again, so you would be changing the bet and know it before you bet but then an hour later someone can come in and make a bet that changes your odds all the same so you are back to where you are started not knowing what odd you are betting on.
well yeah that's true , at the end this is parimutuel betting but still having this calculator is nice , it doesn't only give you the odds after you betting but you can get a bigger idea as well like you can assume that for examole 0.5 BTC will be wagered on a certain selection and you can see if people did actually wager that much what the odds will be as well
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July 07, 2019, 02:53:07 AM |
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Where are the eSPORTS? <StarCraft tournaments?>
The only problem with doing eSPORTS is that I don't know the first thing about it. If you want to see them you are going to have to point me in the right direction.
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~ I didn't realize there was a betting section on freebitcoin until now ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I never noticed it before Yes, there is a betting section on freebitco.in, and some times you can get a pretty attractive odds there, like today on ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP - AUSTRALIA VS SOUTH AFRICA. I bet on South Africa because I will get 5.17x multiplier in case of winning, while on other sites it's between 3x and 3.5x. It's ending in less than 3 hours, so you better hurry up if you want to use this chance. I'm not saying South Africa will win, it is no accident most people bet on Australia, but it's not that South Africa has no chances at all, so I think it's worth trying. thanks for this tip i just beted small amount on southAfrica ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Currently 46minutes left at 4.95 ODD. WOW Betwrong you bet right this time! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) and felicita too... 4.95 it was a very big odd and risky bet! Well done! Don't hesitate to share your next bets here betwrong ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) LOL
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