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August 05, 2014, 06:40:22 PM
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You are supposed to use testnet coins and help test the software at this stage.

Thing is, testnet server seems to be more down than up.

Here some other ones to try...

https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/Obelisk/Servers

None of those seem to work for me. Can someone confirm at least one of those works?

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August 06, 2014, 04:53:42 AM
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Since there seems to be a need, I may set up an obelisk testnet server. Not sure on time-frame though.


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September 21, 2014, 03:00:19 PM
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New Interview with dark Wallet Developers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_9o63E_wjk

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December 06, 2014, 02:12:17 PM
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Is there anyone out there who could give an overview of the architecture of Dark Wallet?  This thread seems to give the impression that it is a collection of different software and technologies.  How do these work together, exactly?  What does the browser plug-in do?  What does Obelisk do?  What other components are necessary?  How do these pieces interact with the Bitcoin network?  Thanks...

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December 06, 2014, 02:55:57 PM
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And Gavin Anderson will be the Dark Knight. Tongue Tongue

Hope this brings some positives to the Bitcoin future.

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December 06, 2014, 04:30:06 PM
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Is there anyone out there who could give an overview of the architecture of Dark Wallet?  This thread seems to give the impression that it is a collection of different software and technologies.  How do these work together, exactly?  What does the browser plug-in do?  What does Obelisk do?  What other components are necessary?  How do these pieces interact with the Bitcoin network?  Thanks...

These 3 pages should answer your questions:
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/6234/what-libbitcoin-and-sx-are-and-why-they-matter/

https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/Main_Page

https://www.darkwallet.is/


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December 07, 2014, 01:33:26 PM
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Is there anyone out there who could give an overview of the architecture of Dark Wallet?  This thread seems to give the impression that it is a collection of different software and technologies.  How do these work together, exactly?  What does the browser plug-in do?  What does Obelisk do?  What other components are necessary?  How do these pieces interact with the Bitcoin network?  Thanks...

These 3 pages should answer your questions:
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/6234/what-libbitcoin-and-sx-are-and-why-they-matter/

https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/Main_Page

https://www.darkwallet.is/

Thanks for trying, but I see nothing on any of those pages that answers my question.  The first one doesn't seem to have anything to do with Dark Wallet.

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December 07, 2014, 01:52:13 PM
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How in hell Dark wallet can be more secure than using monero?
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December 07, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
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Looking forward to the official release, fingers crossed the Firefox verion will be done soon.
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December 07, 2014, 04:53:12 PM
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Thanks for trying, but I see nothing on any of those pages that answers my question.  The first one doesn't seem to have anything to do with Dark Wallet.

Darkwallet uses and is dependent upon an independent implementation(not Bitcoin Core) which interacts with the Bitcoin blockchain :
https://github.com/libbitcoin/libbitcoin-explorer (formerly sx)
https://github.com/libbitcoin/libbitcoin-server (formerly Obelisk)

That is why the first link is relevant.

How do these work together, exactly?   How do these pieces interact with the Bitcoin network?

Need to read the content I linked to, to answer this.

What does the browser plug-in do?  

The browser extension is a full wallet that focuses on privacy incorporating tools like coinjoin and stealth addresses

What does Obelisk do?  

Now called libbitcoin-server acts as the Full node which communicates with the blockchain and other nodes because darkwallet is a thin client.

What other components are necessary?

Download and install the darkwallet extension in chrome or chromium:

https://www.darkwallet.is/

Download ZIP.

Unpack the ZIP file.

Navigate to "chrome://extensions" in your browser.

Enable Developer Mode.

Click "Load unpacked extension" and select the unzipped folder.

DarkWallet is installed!

Than select a server:
https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/Obelisk/Servers



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December 07, 2014, 05:15:02 PM
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How in hell Dark wallet can be more secure than using monero?

How is monero superior to using the dark wallet?

Monero doesn't have the hashing security of Bitcoin, doesn't have the transaction volume bitcoin to hide the transactions, and since it is focused on security it is exposed to higher degree of suspect vs bitcoin which has a wide range of different types of transactions.

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December 07, 2014, 10:06:27 PM
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How in hell Dark wallet can be more secure than using monero?

How in hell is a pumpkin more heavy than a frying pan?

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December 07, 2014, 10:39:51 PM
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50k won't go far if we pay salaries. we have to be smart with the money and invest in common permanent infrastructure. we should find better ways to pay for ongoing costs by creating sustainable businesses.

Exactly right, in my humble opinion.

I suspect you're going to have a hard time figuring out how to arrange yourselves without becoming a Corporation of some State and still have a business model that sustains sufficient quality assurance and customer support to make Dark Wallet a success.

PS: I'm really happy to see other implementations happening!  Diversity is great!

PPS: y'all should give the Foundation at least a LITTLE bit of credit for funding CoinPunk...


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December 08, 2014, 01:45:17 AM
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you could also just use a traditional laundering site such as bitmixer.io, bitlaunder.com (my site), or bitcoin fog .. why bother with anything else?

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December 08, 2014, 02:07:52 AM
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you could also just use a traditional laundering site such as bitmixer.io, bitlaunder.com (my site), or bitcoin fog .. why bother with anything else?

Dark Wallet doesn't just mix funds(other features like stealth addresses) and using money laundering sites is dangerous because:

1) users expose themselves to counterparty risk because money laundering services sometimes steal clients funds
2) the act of using a money laundering services may expose the users coins to other tainted coins and implicate them in crimes they aren't part of and at least makes such action highly suspicious

It would be much safer to use darkwallet in the future where many users were using the wallet for legal and illegal activities.

In the meantime it is probably safer to simply exchange ones coins back and forth between different alts on a trusted exchange to mix them if needed.

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December 08, 2014, 03:11:37 AM
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you could also just use a traditional laundering site such as bitmixer.io, bitlaunder.com (my site), or bitcoin fog .. why bother with anything else?


In the meantime it is probably safer to simply exchange ones coins back and forth between different alts on a trusted exchange to mix them if needed.

funny that people keep mentioning this.
You don't have to exchange your coins to alts to use the mixing "feature" of exchanges.
All you have to do is to deposit .... and then withdraw. This is all.
This is also why you don't need any of those specialised mixing services; besides, those have smaller
volume and, on average, are more likely  to be scams.
(Of course the latter remark does not apply to Darkwallet or any multisig mixers; only to "collective wallet" mixers
that rely on trust.)

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December 08, 2014, 03:21:08 AM
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you could also just use a traditional laundering site such as bitmixer.io, bitlaunder.com (my site), or bitcoin fog .. why bother with anything else?


In the meantime it is probably safer to simply exchange ones coins back and forth between different alts on a trusted exchange to mix them if needed.

funny that people keep mentioning this.
You don't have to exchange your coins to alts to use the mixing "feature" of exchanges.
All you have to do is to deposit .... and then withdraw
. This is all.
This is also why you don't need any of those specialised mixing services; besides, those have smaller
volume and, on average, are more likely  to be scams.
(Of course the latter remark does not apply to Darkwallet or any multisig mixers; only to "collective wallet" mixers
that rely on trust.)

But not an exchange on which you are verified, I imagine. Or do you think it matters?

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December 08, 2014, 04:15:58 AM
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funny that people keep mentioning this.
You don't have to exchange your coins to alts to use the mixing "feature" of exchanges.
All you have to do is to deposit .... and then withdraw. This is all.
This is also why you don't need any of those specialised mixing services; besides, those have smaller
volume and, on average, are more likely  to be scams.
(Of course the latter remark does not apply to Darkwallet or any multisig mixers; only to "collective wallet" mixers
that rely on trust.)

This is really poor advice as some of the exchanges may give you back some of your same Bitcoins and can give over info of your IP or profile/account info if they are issued a subpoena.

Better deposit it in an exchange - convert it to an alt - withdraw it as an alt - deposit alt in a different exchange - convert to BTC - withdraw

Repeat if you are even more paranoid.

A service like this can be used as one of the steps - https://shapeshift.io

Coinjoin/coinshuffle with a sufficient userbase of legal and illegal transactions with darkwallet in the future will fine for most people though.

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January 25, 2015, 08:52:16 PM
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The revolution continues - Darkwallet Alpha 8 (version 0.8.0) Released
https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Alpha8
https://www.darkwallet.is/

New features

ATM Tool / Fast cash withdraw module
On this release Darkwallet incorporates a ChipChap fast cash withdraw (FCW) module, and soon also cash in methods with more than 400 thousand commerces around the planet.


and many other improvements and bugfixes included in release....

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January 25, 2015, 09:07:03 PM
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i feel like seeing 3 new developments:

1.) anon/privacy-centric coins getting stronger
2.) anti-privacy-movement in bitcoin is getting stronger        
3.) sidechains are proposed -> question/big likelihood: of an anon/privacy-sidechain

Which leads me to the question:
where do you guys see darkwallet in future?                            


Bonus question:
Do you guys see Darkwallet in future as sidechain or mainchain technology/sub-subsystem?
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