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September 29, 2017, 04:57:40 AM
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I am one of the Top 20 research magnitude producers in Gridcoin (top 16 if you exclude the 3 GRCPOOL entries that aren't single producers, and sometimes in recent times Top 15 COUNTING them).
 In order to stake at least MONTHLY on a semi-reliable basis, I have to keep about a month worth of coin in the wallet - and I HATE that they're just sitting there USELESSLY instead of my being able to use them to add more hardware.
 (don't even MENTION "staking income", I get better return on that out of a SAVINGS ACCOUNT out of my credit union - BEFORE I have to factor in the GRC price drop of the last couple-three months).

 For folks with small research numbers, they'd have to keep YEARS of coin on hand to get payouts at all (don't forget the 6 months "lose it if you don't stake by then" limit).

 I probably should move my wallet to a LINUX machine - though the Win7 machine it's on now is fairly reliable, generally only needs a reboot every couple months or so since I don't DO a lot on it.
 However, I went with NO wallet crash/reboots for MONTHS prior to the recent wallet changes, the last two-three weeks I have been seeing a wallet crash/reboot on average every other DAY.

The last weeks issues were due to old, failing fallback mechanisms. If you upgrade to 3.6.2.0 it should run much more stable.
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September 29, 2017, 05:16:35 AM
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It's a serious product. Need to wait some time to make profi
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September 29, 2017, 08:31:29 AM
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in this post (in the comments) you can see what the new portfolio will look like in the next update: https://github.com/gridcoin/Gridcoin-Research/pull/517   


 Still wasting a ton of screen space.
 The third most irritating thing with the current wallet is the HUGE amount of wasted "white space" in it that makes it a PAIN to be able to see what's going on without completely overloading the entire screen.
 #1 isn't actually the wallet itself - it's the "have to keep tons of coin around to stake in a reasonable timeframe" issue.
 #2 is the frequent wallet CRASHES that have returned with the current version.
 #4 is the "I want to pop up FULL SCREEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN" when started, instead of following STANDARD WINDOWS PRACTICE of start up in the location and size the window was when it was LAST CLOSED.

 I get TIRED of having to REPOSITION AND RESIZE the bloody wallet every day or two due to the combination of the last 2 issues, AND having to re-UNLOCK FOR STAKING every time.

 Why doesn't the wallet AUTOMATICALLY stake instead of having to do that stupid "unlock for staking" every bloody time the wallet is started up?
 It gets OLD having to "unlock for staking" every bloody time the wallet is started up.



1. how much are "tons" of coins ?
2. my linux wallet run already maybe 2 weeks without problems
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 I am one of the Top 20 research magnitude producers in Gridcoin (top 16 if you exclude the 3 GRCPOOL entries that aren't single producers, and sometimes in recent times Top 15 COUNTING them).
 In order to stake at least MONTHLY on a semi-reliable basis, I have to keep about a month worth of coin in the wallet - and I HATE that they're just sitting there USELESSLY instead of my being able to use them to add more hardware.
 (don't even MENTION "staking income", I get better return on that out of a SAVINGS ACCOUNT out of my credit union - BEFORE I have to factor in the GRC price drop of the last couple-three months).

 For folks with small research numbers, they'd have to keep YEARS of coin on hand to get payouts at all (don't forget the 6 months "lose it if you don't stake by then" limit).

 I probably should move my wallet to a LINUX machine - though the Win7 machine it's on now is fairly reliable, generally only needs a reboot every couple months or so since I don't DO a lot on it.
 However, I went with NO wallet crash/reboots for MONTHS prior to the recent wallet changes, the last two-three weeks I have been seeing a wallet crash/reboot on average every other DAY.


With around 250$ worth of GRC in my wallet, I need around 1-2 days to stake, so nothing compared to some other projects out there Smiley

In the future, there will also be fixed staking rewards, which should make it even easier to stake!
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September 29, 2017, 04:20:35 PM
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Do you earn more coins the longer you stake?

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September 30, 2017, 03:49:47 AM
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With around 250$ worth of GRC in my wallet, I need around 1-2 days to stake, so nothing compared to some other projects out there Smiley


 $250 represents quite a bit more than one month of GRC income for me at current pricing.

 2000 GRC (somewhat less than 2 WEEKS of my current income) gets me a state right now in slightly less than 2 weeks based on recent staking intervals.
 For someone with 80 magnitude of production (which would put them very close to or IN the Top 200 Gridcoin producers), they would have to keep over 3 MONTHS of income around to stake every other week.

 For smaller folks, this a totally INSANE requirement and makes Gridcoin pretty much WORTHLESS to them.

 I don't know of ANY other "project out there" that ties up so much of your earnings just to get paid your non-staking earnings - in fact, I'm not away of ANY other project that does so except for STAKING SPECIFIC type coins that don't have anything resembling a "proof of work" requirement.


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September 30, 2017, 06:05:53 AM
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With around 250$ worth of GRC in my wallet, I need around 1-2 days to stake, so nothing compared to some other projects out there Smiley


 $250 represents quite a bit more than one month of GRC income for me at current pricing.

 2000 GRC (somewhat less than 2 WEEKS of my current income) gets me a state right now in slightly less than 2 weeks based on recent staking intervals.
 For someone with 80 magnitude of production (which would put them very close to or IN the Top 200 Gridcoin producers), they would have to keep over 3 MONTHS of income around to stake every other week.

 For smaller folks, this a totally INSANE requirement and makes Gridcoin pretty much WORTHLESS to them.

 I don't know of ANY other "project out there" that ties up so much of your earnings just to get paid your non-staking earnings - in fact, I'm not away of ANY other project that does so except for STAKING SPECIFIC type coins that don't have anything resembling a "proof of work" requirement.



Sorry, I didn't quite get your jist but in that regard you are correct. This is a known problem and will be addressed in the future. The reason for that move was a security flaw that had to be addressed and as far as I understood it, there won't be a similar requirement in the future.
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September 30, 2017, 08:18:11 AM
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tomorrow ends poll:

* Should Gridcoin implement fixed POS block rewards?

current status: Yes 92.7%

https://steemit.com/gridcoin/@erkan/technical-poll-should-gridcoin-implement-fixed-pos-block-rewards-vote-until-oct-1
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September 30, 2017, 11:10:47 AM
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The gridcoin.io Thunderclap campaign has been extended by 2 weeks. Please keep supporting the campaign or add your support, if not already done so.

Nevertheless, the 10,000 GRC giveway will be paid on October 1st, so join the challenge, support the Thunderclap and spread word about Gridcoin in social media to improve your chances.

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Dear supporters of science,

there is only one day to go and we are stuck at 90% of what we need. Also, we hear your requests to adopt the new Gridcoin-Logo in our video before the party starts. And yes, it would be good to have it. Therefore, we extended the thunderclap timeframe to include an updated video and to get even more support.

Many people from the Gridcoin community asked for this change and we are going to make it happen. Our new release date will be right before Gridcoin's anniversary day! This way, a lot of new people are going to get a chance to join the celebration.

Thank you for being with us!

Kind Regards, Quez
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September 30, 2017, 12:59:08 PM
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Why doesn't the wallet AUTOMATICALLY stake instead of having to do that stupid "unlock for staking" every bloody time the wallet is started up?
 It gets OLD having to "unlock for staking" every bloody time the wallet is started up.

You can if you want to. http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Wallet_Auto-unlock_for_staking
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September 30, 2017, 01:53:59 PM
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planning ongoing:

* do you have wishes for the BOINC team challenges in: October 2017 ?

https://steemit.com/gridcoin/@erkan/boinc-team-challenges-in-october-2017
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September 30, 2017, 05:44:21 PM
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Gridcoin news & stuff:
- The first prototype of the 3D gridcoin: https://steemit.com/gridcoin/@jefpatat/the-first-prototype-of-the-3d-gridcoin
- We should think back to where we came from: https://steemit.com/gridcoin/@grider123/we-should-think-back-to-where-we-came-from

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September 30, 2017, 08:18:48 PM
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Why doesn't the wallet AUTOMATICALLY stake instead of having to do that stupid "unlock for staking" every bloody time the wallet is started up?
 It gets OLD having to "unlock for staking" every bloody time the wallet is started up.

You can if you want to. http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Wallet_Auto-unlock_for_staking

 Thanks for posting the work-around.

 Still doesn't explain why a work-around is needed though.


 I'm also getting tired of the "every day or two" wallet reboots in the current version - though that was supposedly fixed MONTHS ago, more than a bit irritating that bug is BACK AGAIN.


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October 01, 2017, 04:43:07 AM
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Why doesn't the wallet AUTOMATICALLY stake instead of having to do that stupid "unlock for staking" every bloody time the wallet is started up?
 It gets OLD having to "unlock for staking" every bloody time the wallet is started up.

You can if you want to. http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Wallet_Auto-unlock_for_staking

 Thanks for posting the work-around.

 Still doesn't explain why a work-around is needed though.

Because you encypted the wallet with a password. In order to do modifications to it (spend a UTXO to stake) you have to decrypt it with the same password. If you prefer not using the auto unlock option you can always use the wallet unencrypted.

I'm also getting tired of the "every day or two" wallet reboots in the current version - though that was supposedly fixed MONTHS ago, more than a bit irritating that bug is BACK AGAIN.

Are you still having problems with 3.6.2.0? That one was just released a few days, not months, ago.
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October 01, 2017, 09:06:22 AM
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October... important month for Gridcoin. Why?

* 2013: launch
* 2014: conversion from Gridcoin-Classic
 

soon... 4 years of Gridcoin!

https://steemit.com/gridcoin/@erkan/soon-4-years-of-gridcoin

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October 01, 2017, 11:29:03 AM
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Waiting for new wallet to be released. The one I'm using right now(3.6.2.0) crashes every 1,2 days, and does not stake anymore Sad

EDIT:I'm sorry it was 3.6.1.0 that I was using, and I just updated to 3.6.2.0
       I expect it won't crash with 3.6.2.0. Sorry to post wrong information.
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October 01, 2017, 12:29:28 PM
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Waiting for new wallet to be released. The one I'm using right now(3.6.2.0) crashes every 1,2 days, and does not stake anymore Sad

EDIT:I'm sorry it was 3.6.1.0 that I was using, and I just updated to 3.6.2.0
       I expect it won't crash with 3.6.2.0. Sorry to post wrong information.

phew, you had me worried there Cheesy Thanks for the update.
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October 01, 2017, 11:22:34 PM
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I'm also getting tired of the "every day or two" wallet reboots in the current version - though that was supposedly fixed MONTHS ago, more than a bit irritating that bug is BACK AGAIN.

Are you still having problems with 3.6.2.0? That one was just released a few days, not months, ago.

 2 reboots yesterday alone, though it's usually been one every other day or so for the past 2-3 weeks.

 Did NOT have this issue for a long time (the "months ago" comment), but now it has returned.


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October 02, 2017, 06:06:29 AM
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I'm also getting tired of the "every day or two" wallet reboots in the current version - though that was supposedly fixed MONTHS ago, more than a bit irritating that bug is BACK AGAIN.

Are you still having problems with 3.6.2.0? That one was just released a few days, not months, ago.

 2 reboots yesterday alone, though it's usually been one every other day or so for the past 2-3 weeks.

 Did NOT have this issue for a long time (the "months ago" comment), but now it has returned.

That does not make any sense. Can you double check that you are on 3.6.2.0? Besides a now removed low disk space check I cannot find any place where the wallet would shut down on its own.

Edit: If it is 3.6.2.0 then please post debug.log and debug2.log the next time it happens.
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October 02, 2017, 09:12:31 PM
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my portfolio has been working for 4 days consecutively without ever crashare or changing chain, and continues to do so. I have to note that the new update is the best version ever. Congratulations to developers
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October 03, 2017, 01:29:44 AM
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I'm also getting tired of the "every day or two" wallet reboots in the current version - though that was supposedly fixed MONTHS ago, more than a bit irritating that bug is BACK AGAIN.

Are you still having problems with 3.6.2.0? That one was just released a few days, not months, ago.

 2 reboots yesterday alone, though it's usually been one every other day or so for the past 2-3 weeks.

 Did NOT have this issue for a long time (the "months ago" comment), but now it has returned.

That does not make any sense. Can you double check that you are on 3.6.2.0? Besides a now removed low disk space check I cannot find any place where the wallet would shut down on its own.

Edit: If it is 3.6.2.0 then please post debug.log and debug2.log the next time it happens.

 I did THAT before the previous post - it's 3.6.2.0

 Also, as I said, it REBOOTED not "shut down". I saw it resynching after it rebooted the second time (the wallet, not the entire machine, rebooted) but didn't see the first time when it happened (I was asleep).

I'll keep the debug logs in mind if it happens again soon.

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