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Epsylon3
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May 25, 2018, 07:43:54 PM |
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i think xvg dev doesnt even know a minute = 60 seconds (cf xvg reverted commits)
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boxalex
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May 25, 2018, 08:22:45 PM |
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muf18
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May 25, 2018, 09:27:55 PM |
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It's just a laughing crypto penny stock now.
Really, hack me once, hack me twice... WTF ?
Verge was always a shitcoin, but now it's not only shitcoin, but it's unsecure POS.
Not worth even 1 sat.
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mattcode
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May 25, 2018, 09:41:03 PM |
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i think xvg dev doesnt even know a minute = 60 seconds (cf xvg reverted commits)
You don't need to know anything if all you're doing is blindly copy-pasting code together. |
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CHIEF56
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May 25, 2018, 10:07:19 PM |
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By chance does anyone have a few XVG lying around I could use to do some testing with? I can send them back when i'm done.. Maybe there is a faucet around i can obtain.
TIA
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siege3967
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May 25, 2018, 10:43:44 PM |
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By chance does anyone have a few XVG lying around I could use to do some testing with? I can send them back when i'm done.. Maybe there is a faucet around i can obtain.
TIA
Does it by any chance involve addresses with negative balances? |
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H055Y
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D D D Denarius
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May 25, 2018, 11:13:23 PM |
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Funny how XVG devs keep lying to their own community and even fixing their own coin with code from a fork they bash on so often being XSH  this is genius! |
How about you DYOR on Denarius (D)
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buzzkillb
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May 25, 2018, 11:17:52 PM |
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By chance does anyone have a few XVG lying around I could use to do some testing with? I can send them back when i'm done.. Maybe there is a faucet around i can obtain.
TIA
Does it by any chance involve addresses with negative balances? Please tell us more. |
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siege3967
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May 25, 2018, 11:41:14 PM |
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By chance does anyone have a few XVG lying around I could use to do some testing with? I can send them back when i'm done.. Maybe there is a faucet around i can obtain.
TIA
Does it by any chance involve addresses with negative balances? Please tell us more. Trying to figure out if this is simply a error in the explorer or possible double spending. |
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buzzkillb
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May 25, 2018, 11:55:17 PM |
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By chance does anyone have a few XVG lying around I could use to do some testing with? I can send them back when i'm done.. Maybe there is a faucet around i can obtain.
TIA
Does it by any chance involve addresses with negative balances? Please tell us more. Trying to figure out if this is simply a error in the explorer or possible double spending. i thought someone knew how it was done. |
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boxalex
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May 26, 2018, 12:09:47 AM |
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By chance does anyone have a few XVG lying around I could use to do some testing with? I can send them back when i'm done.. Maybe there is a faucet around i can obtain.
TIA
I would, but honestly, all sold yesterday. |
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boxalex
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May 26, 2018, 12:11:29 AM |
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By chance does anyone have a few XVG lying around I could use to do some testing with? I can send them back when i'm done.. Maybe there is a faucet around i can obtain.
TIA
How many do you need? I'am willing to spend some bucks or maybe ocminer and suprnova are sponsoring some if it's for some testing. |
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CHIEF56
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May 26, 2018, 01:30:14 AM |
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By chance does anyone have a few XVG lying around I could use to do some testing with? I can send them back when i'm done.. Maybe there is a faucet around i can obtain.
TIA
Does it by any chance involve addresses with negative balances? How'd you guess? |
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CHIEF56
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May 26, 2018, 01:31:38 AM |
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By chance does anyone have a few XVG lying around I could use to do some testing with? I can send them back when i'm done.. Maybe there is a faucet around i can obtain.
TIA
Does it by any chance involve addresses with negative balances? Please tell us more. Trying to figure out if this is simply a error in the explorer or possible double spending. Yes, I wanted to verify that issue is indeed a blockchain explorer bug as stated, and look into a few other things. |
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CHIEF56
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May 26, 2018, 01:44:55 AM |
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By chance does anyone have a few XVG lying around I could use to do some testing with? I can send them back when i'm done.. Maybe there is a faucet around i can obtain.
TIA
Does it by any chance involve addresses with negative balances? Please tell us more. Trying to figure out if this is simply a error in the explorer or possible double spending. i thought someone knew how it was done. Well, we know some specifics with regards to the diff attack, but it's entirely possible there are others attacks taking advantage of that vector. I mean, why would't they? |
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sandsunsurf
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May 26, 2018, 01:52:46 AM |
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Re: negative balances, I did check an address on prohashing and it shows a zero balance instead of the 2240 negative that a posted address had. So explorer error is legitimate explanation. I didn't test, so that's just a single data point. Re: Code. I finally started to figure out github commits. I will say this- look at the code, especially in April, and you'll see several attempts by justin to fix the drift. The thing that sticks out to me is the coding style. Look at the multiple attempts prior to May 24th. Then look at May 24th. Style is totally different, with lots of commenting in the code, and an entirely different fix. This is all in addition to the time/date stamps of the commit. Look at the commit from SHIELD on dated April 5th. The code is identical to the May 24th commit by justin. The story that XVG/justin pushed a commit then pulled it off and that XSH copied it is completely implausible. XVG/justin was still dicking with drift times on April 6th. During all of this looking, I had a minor epiphany. Justin-V-for-Vendetta. Think he has a vendetta against XSH devs? Because some devs didn't agree with direction Justin was going, so they left xvg, forked it, improved it, and launched XSH? Next question: In response to a recent issue, the reply is that XVG is switching to BTC core. Where did they get that idea??? It's been publicly announced that XSH is migrating to btc core, so now XVG is, too? Interesting... references: xvg github timeline: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commits/masterShield repository: https://git.shieldx.sh/SHIELD-team/Core-Projects/SHIELD/commit/c9da6eb64f670a6e0336ceb10332b2bd94498eba |
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boxalex
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May 26, 2018, 02:08:45 AM |
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Next question: In response to a recent issue, the reply is that XVG is switching to BTC core. Where did they get that idea??? It's been publicly announced that XSH is migrating to btc core, so now XVG is, too? Interesting...
Makes sense, i mean if he uses shields codes ,as just copy and paste as it seems, he must follow them or the copy paste thing won't work anymore  |
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CHIEF56
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May 26, 2018, 02:40:12 AM |
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Re: negative balances, I did check an address on prohashing and it shows a zero balance instead of the 2240 negative that a posted address had. So explorer error is legitimate explanation. I didn't test, so that's just a single data point.
Thanks. I had checked prohashing as well previously. The thing is, Verge and other crypto currencies exist and have various functions including transfer and representation of value held. Right? So, you would think (and hope) something as simple as a block explorer - specifically what I perceive to be the official "endorsed by Verge" version, would actually be accurate. But it isn't, and hasn't been for some time now. I've posted previously showing this fact as well. We've all come to rely on checking block explorers to verify transfers, funds etc. People are putting real money out there and relying on the explorer to verify that things are OK with their funds. As I have said previously, if Verge/Justin is in control of the explorer, then they are also in control of the database in-between the xvg blockchain and the web UI. This DB can easily be manipulated to display whatever data they would like. I don't trust Justin and I don't trust Verge. So, I'd just like to verify a few things on my own so that I can put my mind to rest  |
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sandsunsurf
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May 26, 2018, 03:16:44 AM |
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After doing my own research on the claims of "they copied me, I didn't copy them" I agree 100% with you about not trusting Verge or Justin. I bailed on January 1st, after the Wraith fail (lies?), then stupidly bought back in when "the biggest crypto partnership evah" was going to be released. I sold most after that debacle, but had about 5000 left. I just sold those after this response to the hack.
For anybody just browsing this thread ------ tl;dr VERGE LIES. DON'T BUY.
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