Network Attack on XVG / VERGE

[siege3967]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

[Patelkaran.8798]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

So you are saying that one can copy a private codebase? Wow seems like something new. I thought one cant copy private codebase bcoz thats what they have announced. Just like Verge, Verge is gonna make impossible to copy the code from now on so no one can copy code and then blame that verge has copied their fixes or commits.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

So you are saying that one can copy a private codebase? Wow seems like something new. I thought one cant copy private codebase bcoz thats what they have announced. Just like Verge, Verge is gonna make impossible to copy the code from now on so no one can copy code and then blame that verge has copied their fixes or commits.

Are you telling me that Verge will turn into a closed source project?

[Patelkaran.8798]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

So you are saying that one can copy a private codebase? Wow seems like something new. I thought one cant copy private codebase bcoz thats what they have announced. Just like Verge, Verge is gonna make impossible to copy the code from now on so no one can copy code and then blame that verge has copied their fixes or commits.

Are you telling me that Verge will turn into a closed source project?

Nope. I am telling that we are gonna make impossible to copy our codebase. I was telling you abt shield. They have announced something like that.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

So you are saying that one can copy a private codebase? Wow seems like something new. I thought one cant copy private codebase bcoz thats what they have announced. Just like Verge, Verge is gonna make impossible to copy the code from now on so no one can copy code and then blame that verge has copied their fixes or commits.

Are you telling me that Verge will turn into a closed source project?

Nope. I am telling that we are gonna make impossible to copy our codebase. I was telling you abt shield. They have announced something like that.

I'm speechless.

[siege3967]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

So you are saying that one can copy a private codebase? Wow seems like something new. I thought one cant copy private codebase bcoz thats what they have announced. Just like Verge, Verge is gonna make impossible to copy the code from now on so no one can copy code and then blame that verge has copied their fixes or commits.

If it's going to be a private codebase, it's not open source and there's basically no point holding either of those coins anymore. So much for "community" coin. I'm sure shield is not going to have a private codebase. Not sure about XVG because their wallets and miners are going to be closed source. HUGE red flag.

[Patelkaran.8798]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

So you are saying that one can copy a private codebase? Wow seems like something new. I thought one cant copy private codebase bcoz thats what they have announced. Just like Verge, Verge is gonna make impossible to copy the code from now on so no one can copy code and then blame that verge has copied their fixes or commits.

Are you telling me that Verge will turn into a closed source project?

Nope. I am telling that we are gonna make impossible to copy our codebase. I was telling you abt shield. They have announced something like that.

I'm speechless.

Sorry for the confusion. Let me be clear. Verge is exploring options to make it impossible to copy the code without being closed source.

[siege3967]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

So you are saying that one can copy a private codebase? Wow seems like something new. I thought one cant copy private codebase bcoz thats what they have announced. Just like Verge, Verge is gonna make impossible to copy the code from now on so no one can copy code and then blame that verge has copied their fixes or commits.

Are you telling me that Verge will turn into a closed source project?

Nope. I am telling that we are gonna make impossible to copy our codebase. I was telling you abt shield. They have announced something like that.

I'm speechless.

Sorry for the confusion. Let me be clear. Verge is exploring options to make it impossible to copy the code without being closed source.

That's literally not possible. You know that right?

[forestpump]

Yup... attack again.. as already said, simply reducing drift time doesn't fix it..

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Are you even there bud? the world (including your sock puppets) wants to know why this was an ATTACK? Did you pull a carlos matos on us? please come back and explain!

[swami84]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

So you are saying that one can copy a private codebase? Wow seems like something new. I thought one cant copy private codebase bcoz thats what they have announced. Just like Verge, Verge is gonna make impossible to copy the code from now on so no one can copy code and then blame that verge has copied their fixes or commits.

Are you telling me that Verge will turn into a closed source project?

Nope. I am telling that we are gonna make impossible to copy our codebase. I was telling you abt shield. They have announced something like that.

I'm speechless.

Sorry for the confusion. Let me be clear. Verge is exploring options to make it impossible to copy the code without being closed source.

Lol exploring options. Hahahaha...Dude I dunno who is shittier - you or the verge developers...Anyways nice entertainment and you know that everyone is laughing at you because technically you are a joke!!

[Dogedarkdev]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

You're avoiding what I addressed. During the first hack you claimed that you were working on a patch and yet you just copied it from a different coin (which didn't work). The second patch is a copy from the Shield Github and you're slandering them by saying that they copied it.

our first patch did work: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/80c81aef63272231fc39c2af4b8db9f3f2e9d328

the attack then changed. since they were using blocks from ~2 hours previous (on a different chain) now that we fixed the drift again, which we meant to do previously, obviously, it seems to be preventing the attack from occurring, as we havent seen any successful attacks of the last 24 hours. we've been working on a whole new rebase for a few weeks now, and im confident it will be far more hardened against any mining exploitation.

[tf2addict]

How is this coin still worth almost $600m??

[Patelkaran.8798]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

So you are saying that one can copy a private codebase? Wow seems like something new. I thought one cant copy private codebase bcoz thats what they have announced. Just like Verge, Verge is gonna make impossible to copy the code from now on so no one can copy code and then blame that verge has copied their fixes or commits.

If it's going to be a private codebase, it's not open source and there's basically no point holding either of those coins anymore. So much for "community" coin. I'm sure shield is not going to have a private codebase. Not sure about XVG because their wallets and miners are going to be closed source. HUGE red flag.

Well, if like you said, Verge Miners and Wallets are gonna be closed source then its upto People to stay invested or not. Let them decide. I dont think Verge dev has finalized to this decision BUT If Verge dev by chance finalizes this decision of being closed source then IMO its even better so certain aspects of code is hidden to prevent code copying and exploits.
Also accordind to your Argument, you should close your bank account as well bcoz you dont know a thing abt their software being closed source. HUGE RED FLAG !!

[Patelkaran.8798]

How is this coin still worth almost $600m??

Tell us your Rate. How many BTC/FUD ?

[siege3967]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

You're avoiding what I addressed. During the first hack you claimed that you were working on a patch and yet you just copied it from a different coin (which didn't work). The second patch is a copy from the Shield Github and you're slandering them by saying that they copied it.

our first patch did work: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/80c81aef63272231fc39c2af4b8db9f3f2e9d328

the attack then changed. since they were using blocks from ~2 hours previous (on a different chain) now that we fixed the drift again, which we meant to do previously, obviously, it seems to be preventing the attack from occurring, as we havent seen any successful attacks of the last 24 hours. we've been working on a whole new rebase for a few weeks now, and im confident it will be far more hardened against any mining exploitation.

First patch did not work. They just stopped exploiting the chain. Also, it was known that your "fix" was not even a real fix and this was pointed out to you several times. It was known as soon as you applied the "patch" that it wasn't going to be enough simply because of how the attack was carried out. Don't bs saying it wasn't the same attack. Literally was, with just a small change.

[forestpump]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

You're avoiding what I addressed. During the first hack you claimed that you were working on a patch and yet you just copied it from a different coin (which didn't work). The second patch is a copy from the Shield Github and you're slandering them by saying that they copied it.

our first patch did work: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/80c81aef63272231fc39c2af4b8db9f3f2e9d328

the attack then changed. since they were using blocks from ~2 hours previous (on a different chain) now that we fixed the drift again, which we meant to do previously, obviously, it seems to be preventing the attack from occurring, as we havent seen any successful attacks of the last 24 hours. we've been working on a whole new rebase for a few weeks now, and im confident it will be far more hardened against any mining exploitation.

First patch did not work. They just stopped exploiting the chain. Also, it was known that your "fix" was not even a real fix and this was pointed out to you several times. It was known as soon as you applied the "patch" that it wasn't going to be enough simply because of how the attack was carried out. Don't bs saying it wasn't the same attack. Literally was, with just a small change.

Heart surgery is the same as eye surgery, with a small change 

[siege3967]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

How much do you want to bet that your new codebase will be copied from shield who were planning to shift to .16 before you?  I can't wait to see the timestamps on the GitHub commits. I'm sure yours will be after theirs and you'll just lie saying they copied you.

So you are saying that one can copy a private codebase? Wow seems like something new. I thought one cant copy private codebase bcoz thats what they have announced. Just like Verge, Verge is gonna make impossible to copy the code from now on so no one can copy code and then blame that verge has copied their fixes or commits.

If it's going to be a private codebase, it's not open source and there's basically no point holding either of those coins anymore. So much for "community" coin. I'm sure shield is not going to have a private codebase. Not sure about XVG because their wallets and miners are going to be closed source. HUGE red flag.

Well, if like you said, Verge Miners and Wallets are gonna be closed source then its upto People to stay invested or not. Let them decide. I dont think Verge dev has finalized to this decision BUT If Verge dev by chance finalizes this decision of being closed source then IMO its even better so certain aspects of code is hidden to prevent code copying and exploits.
Also accordind to your Argument, you should close your bank account as well bcoz you dont know a thing abt their software being closed source. HUGE RED FLAG !!

The whole point is we're trying to be different than banks. Also, comparing code to a bank account is the most retarded anology. I'm not telling him to post his private keys online. Only trust the code. This is an unregulated space, there's no fallback option. Thus, open source code is imperative.

[siege3967]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

You're avoiding what I addressed. During the first hack you claimed that you were working on a patch and yet you just copied it from a different coin (which didn't work). The second patch is a copy from the Shield Github and you're slandering them by saying that they copied it.

our first patch did work: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/80c81aef63272231fc39c2af4b8db9f3f2e9d328

the attack then changed. since they were using blocks from ~2 hours previous (on a different chain) now that we fixed the drift again, which we meant to do previously, obviously, it seems to be preventing the attack from occurring, as we havent seen any successful attacks of the last 24 hours. we've been working on a whole new rebase for a few weeks now, and im confident it will be far more hardened against any mining exploitation.

First patch did not work. They just stopped exploiting the chain. Also, it was known that your "fix" was not even a real fix and this was pointed out to you several times. It was known as soon as you applied the "patch" that it wasn't going to be enough simply because of how the attack was carried out. Don't bs saying it wasn't the same attack. Literally was, with just a small change.

Heart surgery is the same as eye surgery, with a small change 

Do you even know the technicalities behind the attack? Please stop, you're giving away how stupid you are.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

You're avoiding what I addressed. During the first hack you claimed that you were working on a patch and yet you just copied it from a different coin (which didn't work). The second patch is a copy from the Shield Github and you're slandering them by saying that they copied it.

our first patch did work: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/80c81aef63272231fc39c2af4b8db9f3f2e9d328

the attack then changed. since they were using blocks from ~2 hours previous (on a different chain) now that we fixed the drift again, which we meant to do previously, obviously, it seems to be preventing the attack from occurring, as we havent seen any successful attacks of the last 24 hours. we've been working on a whole new rebase for a few weeks now, and im confident it will be far more hardened against any mining exploitation.

You're still avoiding the fact that you simply copied it from a different project without admitting it. The comment section says enough: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/a3dd53f40aaedd28bd4d0fc720f034492f7ded81

Instead of admitting that you're copy/pasting code you are giving Verge supporters the impression that you actually know what you're doing and acting cocky:


Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to see you fail. All I am saying is that it is extremely disrespectful to accuse other projects of copying your code and/or not giving other projects credit when you're using their fixes. Looking forward to seeing the new XVG codebase!

[Dogedarkdev]

I never said that Denarius came up with stealth addresses, I am just showing that your code is a copy/paste from their Github. We all know Wraith is promoted as something it is not. Care to explain the other commits?

verge is a fork of peercoin, obviously. (was, after the new rebase to bitcoin we've been working on)

and the stealth.cpp file came from shadowcoin, not denarius. denarius removed the SDC copyright from their header in that file. ours retains the shadowcoin copyright.

You're avoiding what I addressed. During the first hack you claimed that you were working on a patch and yet you just copied it from a different coin (which didn't work). The second patch is a copy from the Shield Github and you're slandering them by saying that they copied it.

our first patch did work: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/80c81aef63272231fc39c2af4b8db9f3f2e9d328

the attack then changed. since they were using blocks from ~2 hours previous (on a different chain) now that we fixed the drift again, which we meant to do previously, obviously, it seems to be preventing the attack from occurring, as we havent seen any successful attacks of the last 24 hours. we've been working on a whole new rebase for a few weeks now, and im confident it will be far more hardened against any mining exploitation.

You're still avoiding the fact that you simply copied it from a different project without admitting it. The comment section says enough: https://github.com/vergecurrency/VERGE/commit/a3dd53f40aaedd28bd4d0fc720f034492f7ded81

Instead of admitting that you're copy/pasting code you are giving Verge supporters the impression that you actually know what you're doing and acting cocky:


Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to see you fail. All I am saying is that it is extremely disrespectful to accuse other projects of copying your code and/or not giving other projects credit when you're using their fixes. Looking forward to seeing the new XVG codebase!

that patch did take 3 days and did not come from another coin. it was from over a month ago.